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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Do explain?? | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Sure thing Dr smoothshaft | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Apart from different virus families, infectiousness, prognosis etc | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. Do explain??" They are exactly the same as I am a stand in for Idris Elba. | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Sure are,just like trump and biden are identical twins ....well they're both American | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Ffs are there still some of you people around who can't research stuff or are you just trying to provoke an argument? | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death?" Firstly even more than 60 years ago we would have known covid-19 was not flu. Spanish flu was actually H1N1 and didn't even originate in Spain. | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. " Can’t fix stupid. | |||
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"Covid and Flu...... same thing. Sure are,just like trump and biden are identical twins ....well they're both American " Trump and Bojo, come on at least make it analogous . Hang on, am I saying trump and Bojo are nasty viruses? | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death?" Not a flu as you well know for the very reason you've stated -we can tell pathogens apart. | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death?" It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol" More ridiculous commenting on the slight difference between the viruses, what a stupid comment about "social distancing" when during the idiotic lockdowns people were made to stay indoors, thus increasing the likelihood of viral infection spreading, flu and pneumonia deaths went down on death certificates as Covid. Idiotic lockdown to prevent death from flu and pneumonia this winter then? | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? Not a flu as you well know for the very reason you've stated -we can tell pathogens apart." Tiny differences that don't mean much, explains why the survivability rate is so high in covid,flu and viral pneumonia | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? Firstly even more than 60 years ago we would have known covid-19 was not flu. Spanish flu was actually H1N1 and didn't even originate in Spain." Show me where Spanish flu was described as H1N1 at the time i.e before the ability to identify to the tiniest make up of a virus. | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? Firstly even more than 60 years ago we would have known covid-19 was not flu. Spanish flu was actually H1N1 and didn't even originate in Spain. Show me where Spanish flu was described as H1N1 at the time i.e before the ability to identify to the tiniest make up of a virus. " It wasn't at the time, it was over a 100 years ago. The ability to identify different types of flu virus was achieved til 1933. | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol More ridiculous commenting on the slight difference between the viruses, what a stupid comment about "social distancing" when during the idiotic lockdowns people were made to stay indoors, thus increasing the likelihood of viral infection spreading, flu and pneumonia deaths went down on death certificates as Covid. Idiotic lockdown to prevent death from flu and pneumonia this winter then?" Say you don't understand how staying away from people with respiratory illness can help prevent you from catching it from them without saying...... | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol More ridiculous commenting on the slight difference between the viruses, what a stupid comment about "social distancing" when during the idiotic lockdowns people were made to stay indoors, thus increasing the likelihood of viral infection spreading, flu and pneumonia deaths went down on death certificates as Covid. Idiotic lockdown to prevent death from flu and pneumonia this winter then?" Stupid comment on stupid comment? The strategies used decreased transmission of respiratory diseases. If you're locked down, and only mix within your bubble, then you're confining any infection | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? Not a flu as you well know for the very reason you've stated -we can tell pathogens apart. Tiny differences that don't mean much, explains why the survivability rate is so high in covid,flu and viral pneumonia" Tiny differences cos viruses are tiny. And the fact when covid first came on the scene, no-one knew the fatality rate. | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol More ridiculous commenting on the slight difference between the viruses, what a stupid comment about "social distancing" when during the idiotic lockdowns people were made to stay indoors, thus increasing the likelihood of viral infection spreading, flu and pneumonia deaths went down on death certificates as Covid. Idiotic lockdown to prevent death from flu and pneumonia this winter then? Stupid comment on stupid comment? The strategies used decreased transmission of respiratory diseases. If you're locked down, and only mix within your bubble, then you're confining any infection " Until someone from each bubble goes to get a vaccine or to the shops to sift through the scraps that the panic buyers left and then brings the virus into the house | |||
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" Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death? It's a Corona virus not an influenza virus. Pretty sure it was in the news a few times lol Flu and Pneumonia deaths probably decreased due to lockdowns and social distancing... Just hazarding a guess that if people don't mix they don't spread flu but hey .. I could be wrong lol More ridiculous commenting on the slight difference between the viruses, what a stupid comment about "social distancing" when during the idiotic lockdowns people were made to stay indoors, thus increasing the likelihood of viral infection spreading, flu and pneumonia deaths went down on death certificates as Covid. Idiotic lockdown to prevent death from flu and pneumonia this winter then?" Don't even know what that's supposed to mean lol | |||
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"There is a lot of covid and flu going about, so be careful, we got christmas in about month or so coming and that when it will get you..." Oooh get you Mr sunshine. | |||
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"There is a lot of covid and flu going about, so be careful, we got christmas in about month or so coming and that when it will get you..." Do you mean covid as in vax injured? Because there is a lot of folk going about who are vax injured and a lot of folk no longer going about because the jags put them in an early grave. But sure ignore all that and worry about getting the flu. | |||
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"There is a lot of covid and flu going about, so be careful, we got christmas in about month or so coming and that when it will get you... Do you mean covid as in vax injured? Because there is a lot of folk going about who are vax injured and a lot of folk no longer going about because the jags put them in an early grave. But sure ignore all that and worry about getting the flu." Yeah, there's orders of magnitude people dying from vaccinations compared with Covid and flu In Ireland apparently | |||
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"If asked to describe what COVID is like to someone who's not had it, i wonder how many people would say its like flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of these symptoms; fever, fatigue, cough, sneezing, aches/pains, runny nose, sore throat, diarrhea, headaches, shortness of breath, saw a doctor and were told they had flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of the symptoms above did not seek any medical opinion and stayed in bed for 10 days concluding they had flu?" What is your point? The symptoms do align with flu symptoms as primarily covid is a respiratory condition. The ignorance you mention, may indeed return, which I don't see as a bad thing as we learn to live with covid. | |||
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"There is a lot of covid and flu going about, so be careful, we got christmas in about month or so coming and that when it will get you... Do you mean covid as in vax injured? Because there is a lot of folk going about who are vax injured and a lot of folk no longer going about because the jags put them in an early grave. But sure ignore all that and worry about getting the flu. Yeah, there's orders of magnitude people dying from vaccinations compared with Covid and flu In Ireland apparently" Any evidence to support this? | |||
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"There is a lot of covid and flu going about, so be careful, we got christmas in about month or so coming and that when it will get you... Do you mean covid as in vax injured? Because there is a lot of folk going about who are vax injured and a lot of folk no longer going about because the jags put them in an early grave. But sure ignore all that and worry about getting the flu. Yeah, there's orders of magnitude people dying from vaccinations compared with Covid and flu In Ireland apparently Any evidence to support this?" The poster is being flippant I believe | |||
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"If asked to describe what COVID is like to someone who's not had it, i wonder how many people would say its like flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of these symptoms; fever, fatigue, cough, sneezing, aches/pains, runny nose, sore throat, diarrhea, headaches, shortness of breath, saw a doctor and were told they had flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of the symptoms above did not seek any medical opinion and stayed in bed for 10 days concluding they had flu? What is your point? The symptoms do align with flu symptoms as primarily covid is a respiratory condition. The ignorance you mention, may indeed return, which I don't see as a bad thing as we learn to live with covid." Ignorance? You chose not to respond to any of my ponderings, which is fine, but then i wonder why you are being evasive but also very defensive. Won't you at least give some indication on what you think is likely? For each question, do you think there will be lots, its 50/50 or very few? | |||
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"If asked to describe what COVID is like to someone who's not had it, i wonder how many people would say its like flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of these symptoms; fever, fatigue, cough, sneezing, aches/pains, runny nose, sore throat, diarrhea, headaches, shortness of breath, saw a doctor and were told they had flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of the symptoms above did not seek any medical opinion and stayed in bed for 10 days concluding they had flu?" Had it twice completely different to flu so no real comparison or confusion | |||
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"If asked to describe what COVID is like to someone who's not had it, i wonder how many people would say its like flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of these symptoms; fever, fatigue, cough, sneezing, aches/pains, runny nose, sore throat, diarrhea, headaches, shortness of breath, saw a doctor and were told they had flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of the symptoms above did not seek any medical opinion and stayed in bed for 10 days concluding they had flu? What is your point? The symptoms do align with flu symptoms as primarily covid is a respiratory condition. The ignorance you mention, may indeed return, which I don't see as a bad thing as we learn to live with covid. Ignorance? You chose not to respond to any of my ponderings, which is fine, but then i wonder why you are being evasive but also very defensive. Won't you at least give some indication on what you think is likely? For each question, do you think there will be lots, its 50/50 or very few?" Ignorance = lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge will return from lack of testing. I'm neither defensive or evasive. Your ponderings did not require answers but I did respond. It really doesn't matter whether someone is suffering from flu or covid as long as they take remedial action - keep away from vulnerable people, keep fever down by taking paracetamol, keep hydrated, and rest. So again I ask what's your point? | |||
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"Ignorance = lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge will return from lack of testing. I'm neither defensive or evasive. Your ponderings did not require answers but I did respond. It really doesn't matter whether someone is suffering from flu or covid as long as they take remedial action - keep away from vulnerable people, keep fever down by taking paracetamol, keep hydrated, and rest. So again I ask what's your point?" Oh dear, the need state the dictionary definition of ignorant is disappointing. I held you in higher regard up to now. Once again your arrogance drips from your words. Oddly however, i find that quite an attractive quality in you. I know you are a very intelligent woman, i enjoy reading your posts and i know your don't tend to shoot from the hip and you are well researched, but your self assumed level of knowledge which you imply is superior to all else here is detrimental to your intelligence. I was not trying to single you out with my post, but i am glad you responded first, as i do actually respect the quality of your posts and to get an answer from you would have been awesome. You didn't answer the questions because you knew the answer to all of them was "lots" and you knew i was going to use your superior knowledge, with you being a health care professional an all that, to support my point. For that i doff my hat to you. Nevertheless, indirectly you still have. So my point....People, foaming at the mouth responding to posts that say COVID and Flu are the same or to any post with the same inference, to point out they are not the same, usually with a condescending and agressive tone. Yes, everybody knows that COVID and Flu are not the same. The attackers are totally missing the point in their mission of re-education of the difference between the two viruses, often citing the extremes of effects COVID can have, continuing the fear mongering that we have been exposed to throughout the pandemic. The symptoms stated in my other post are listed for both COVID and Flu by the WHO, Centers for Disease Control the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (to name just a few). If you went to a health care professional with one or more of those symptoms before COVID struck, absent of PCR or LFT to aid diagnosis, they would say you have Flu, even if it was a Corona virus ....Wouldn't they Amelie? The vast majority of ordinary folk, have used their experience of COVID and Flu as a measure to which they able to make that comparison and impart that to others. So, as the two virus have identical symptoms, combined with the experience of the vast majority of people and the most likely diagnosis from a healthcare professional, makes the comparison a pretty accurate one. Add to that, we have been living with Flu for a long time and its not really a threat to life which is the SAME for COVID given the 99% survival rate. As a virus mutates, the general rule of thumb is it will lose its potency. And finally, we will end up living with COVID just the SAME as we do with Flu. Wrap all those striking similarities up together, COVID and its effects on a person is no worse or better than Flu ergo, to say COVID and Flu are the SAME in terms of the effect they have on health/life is not wrong. | |||
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"Ignorance = lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge will return from lack of testing. I'm neither defensive or evasive. Your ponderings did not require answers but I did respond. It really doesn't matter whether someone is suffering from flu or covid as long as they take remedial action - keep away from vulnerable people, keep fever down by taking paracetamol, keep hydrated, and rest. So again I ask what's your point? Oh dear, the need state the dictionary definition of ignorant is disappointing. I held you in higher regard up to now. Once again your arrogance drips from your words. Oddly however, i find that quite an attractive quality in you. " I clarified the context of ignorance because you queried it, and that is arrogance? Thanks for the praise sandwich though :p " I know you are a very intelligent woman, i enjoy reading your posts and i know your don't tend to shoot from the hip and you are well researched, but your self assumed level of knowledge which you imply is superior to all else here is detrimental to your intelligence. " Nope, that's your inference. I will have more knowledge than some and less than others and maybe I don't communicate it as well as I should/try. " I was not trying to single you out with my post, but i am glad you responded first, as i do actually respect the quality of your posts and to get an answer from you would have been awesome. You didn't answer the questions because you knew the answer to all of them was "lots" and you knew i was going to use your superior knowledge, with you being a health care professional an all that, to support my point. For that i doff my hat to you. " I reread the post and there was a question, oops " Nevertheless, indirectly you still have. So my point....People, foaming at the mouth responding to posts that say COVID and Flu are the same or to any post with the same inference, to point out they are not the same, usually with a condescending and agressive tone. Yes, everybody knows that COVID and Flu are not the same. The attackers are totally missing the point in their mission of re-education of the difference between the two viruses, often citing the extremes of effects COVID can have, continuing the fear mongering that we have been exposed to throughout the pandemic. The symptoms stated in my other post are listed for both COVID and Flu by the WHO, Centers for Disease Control the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (to name just a few). If you went to a health care professional with one or more of those symptoms before COVID struck, absent of PCR or LFT to aid diagnosis, they would say you have Flu, even if it was a Corona virus ....Wouldn't they Amelie? " If they are wise, they'd says it's viral and point where I previously mentioned as remedial action. " The vast majority of ordinary folk, have used their experience of COVID and Flu as a measure to which they able to make that comparison and impart that to others. So, as the two virus have identical symptoms, combined with the experience of the vast majority of people and the most likely diagnosis from a healthcare professional, makes the comparison a pretty accurate one. Add to that, we have been living with Flu for a long time and its not really a threat to life which is the SAME for COVID given the 99% survival rate. As a virus mutates, the general rule of thumb is it will lose its potency. And finally, we will end up living with COVID just the SAME as we do with Flu. Wrap all those striking similarities up together, COVID and its effects on a person is no worse or better than Flu ergo, to say COVID and Flu are the SAME in terms of the effect they have on health/life is not wrong. " I don't disagree. However, those who state they are the same in these threads, either need to accept clarification (IE not same virus) or give clarification (eg symptoms and consequences). Hope I've done your post justice - from the inept non-arrogant communicating HCP | |||
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"Ignorance = lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge will return from lack of testing. I'm neither defensive or evasive. Your ponderings did not require answers but I did respond. It really doesn't matter whether someone is suffering from flu or covid as long as they take remedial action - keep away from vulnerable people, keep fever down by taking paracetamol, keep hydrated, and rest. So again I ask what's your point? Oh dear, the need state the dictionary definition of ignorant is disappointing. I held you in higher regard up to now. Once again your arrogance drips from your words. Oddly however, i find that quite an attractive quality in you. I clarified the context of ignorance because you queried it, and that is arrogance? Thanks for the praise sandwich though :p I know you are a very intelligent woman, i enjoy reading your posts and i know your don't tend to shoot from the hip and you are well researched, but your self assumed level of knowledge which you imply is superior to all else here is detrimental to your intelligence. Nope, that's your inference. I will have more knowledge than some and less than others and maybe I don't communicate it as well as I should/try. I was not trying to single you out with my post, but i am glad you responded first, as i do actually respect the quality of your posts and to get an answer from you would have been awesome. You didn't answer the questions because you knew the answer to all of them was "lots" and you knew i was going to use your superior knowledge, with you being a health care professional an all that, to support my point. For that i doff my hat to you. I reread the post and there was a question, oops Nevertheless, indirectly you still have. So my point....People, foaming at the mouth responding to posts that say COVID and Flu are the same or to any post with the same inference, to point out they are not the same, usually with a condescending and agressive tone. Yes, everybody knows that COVID and Flu are not the same. The attackers are totally missing the point in their mission of re-education of the difference between the two viruses, often citing the extremes of effects COVID can have, continuing the fear mongering that we have been exposed to throughout the pandemic. The symptoms stated in my other post are listed for both COVID and Flu by the WHO, Centers for Disease Control the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (to name just a few). If you went to a health care professional with one or more of those symptoms before COVID struck, absent of PCR or LFT to aid diagnosis, they would say you have Flu, even if it was a Corona virus ....Wouldn't they Amelie? If they are wise, they'd says it's viral and point where I previously mentioned as remedial action. The vast majority of ordinary folk, have used their experience of COVID and Flu as a measure to which they able to make that comparison and impart that to others. So, as the two virus have identical symptoms, combined with the experience of the vast majority of people and the most likely diagnosis from a healthcare professional, makes the comparison a pretty accurate one. Add to that, we have been living with Flu for a long time and its not really a threat to life which is the SAME for COVID given the 99% survival rate. As a virus mutates, the general rule of thumb is it will lose its potency. And finally, we will end up living with COVID just the SAME as we do with Flu. Wrap all those striking similarities up together, COVID and its effects on a person is no worse or better than Flu ergo, to say COVID and Flu are the SAME in terms of the effect they have on health/life is not wrong. I don't disagree. However, those who state they are the same in these threads, either need to accept clarification (IE not same virus) or give clarification (eg symptoms and consequences). Hope I've done your post justice - from the inept non-arrogant communicating HCP " Thanks for all of your great contributions | |||
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"Hope I've done your post justice - from the inept non-arrogant communicating HCP " Wow! I'm almost speechless. Thank you, was not expecting that at all. In a nerdy way, its kinda hot! Re the ignorance bit, i couldn't see where/what part of my post you drew that from. Bit of a misunderstanding there, soz. Didn't want to compliment you too much in the previous post, but I left out that you're also sharp and witty. I think i'll leave it there and get some dinner on. | |||
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"Ignorance = lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge will return from lack of testing. I'm neither defensive or evasive. Your ponderings did not require answers but I did respond. It really doesn't matter whether someone is suffering from flu or covid as long as they take remedial action - keep away from vulnerable people, keep fever down by taking paracetamol, keep hydrated, and rest. So again I ask what's your point? Oh dear, the need state the dictionary definition of ignorant is disappointing. I held you in higher regard up to now. Once again your arrogance drips from your words. Oddly however, i find that quite an attractive quality in you. I clarified the context of ignorance because you queried it, and that is arrogance? Thanks for the praise sandwich though :p I know you are a very intelligent woman, i enjoy reading your posts and i know your don't tend to shoot from the hip and you are well researched, but your self assumed level of knowledge which you imply is superior to all else here is detrimental to your intelligence. Nope, that's your inference. I will have more knowledge than some and less than others and maybe I don't communicate it as well as I should/try. I was not trying to single you out with my post, but i am glad you responded first, as i do actually respect the quality of your posts and to get an answer from you would have been awesome. You didn't answer the questions because you knew the answer to all of them was "lots" and you knew i was going to use your superior knowledge, with you being a health care professional an all that, to support my point. For that i doff my hat to you. I reread the post and there was a question, oops Nevertheless, indirectly you still have. So my point....People, foaming at the mouth responding to posts that say COVID and Flu are the same or to any post with the same inference, to point out they are not the same, usually with a condescending and agressive tone. Yes, everybody knows that COVID and Flu are not the same. The attackers are totally missing the point in their mission of re-education of the difference between the two viruses, often citing the extremes of effects COVID can have, continuing the fear mongering that we have been exposed to throughout the pandemic. The symptoms stated in my other post are listed for both COVID and Flu by the WHO, Centers for Disease Control the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology (to name just a few). If you went to a health care professional with one or more of those symptoms before COVID struck, absent of PCR or LFT to aid diagnosis, they would say you have Flu, even if it was a Corona virus ....Wouldn't they Amelie? If they are wise, they'd says it's viral and point where I previously mentioned as remedial action. The vast majority of ordinary folk, have used their experience of COVID and Flu as a measure to which they able to make that comparison and impart that to others. So, as the two virus have identical symptoms, combined with the experience of the vast majority of people and the most likely diagnosis from a healthcare professional, makes the comparison a pretty accurate one. Add to that, we have been living with Flu for a long time and its not really a threat to life which is the SAME for COVID given the 99% survival rate. As a virus mutates, the general rule of thumb is it will lose its potency. And finally, we will end up living with COVID just the SAME as we do with Flu. Wrap all those striking similarities up together, COVID and its effects on a person is no worse or better than Flu ergo, to say COVID and Flu are the SAME in terms of the effect they have on health/life is not wrong. I don't disagree. However, those who state they are the same in these threads, either need to accept clarification (IE not same virus) or give clarification (eg symptoms and consequences). Hope I've done your post justice - from the inept non-arrogant communicating HCP " Disappointed you haven't responded to his creepy flirting Unless you've set up a secret date in which case my apologies Be sure to tell him you're vaccinated, some of them can be a bit twitchy about that | |||
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"ive got a cold ive got the flu ive got covid i feel a bit under the weather do we actually know what weve got lets be honest they shut the whole country down costing billion of pounds and everybody still caught covid great britain is trillions of pounds in debt due to the way the country is run , if it was a business it would be bankrupt. if dragons den folk ran the country and half a dozen wide boys theyd make money. lets be honest prime ministers and politicians arent trained or skilled at there job , if they were we wouldnt be in the debt we are in now..there just educated for want of a better word. 8 million pounds a day , yes a day to house folk in hotels !! im not sure i get the whole covid , flu , thing along with all the other stuff wasting money" So, what has housing asylum seekers got to to with COVID? | |||
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"ive got a cold ive got the flu ive got covid i feel a bit under the weather do we actually know what weve got lets be honest they shut the whole country down costing billion of pounds and everybody still caught covid great britain is trillions of pounds in debt due to the way the country is run , if it was a business it would be bankrupt. if dragons den folk ran the country and half a dozen wide boys theyd make money. lets be honest prime ministers and politicians arent trained or skilled at there job , if they were we wouldnt be in the debt we are in now..there just educated for want of a better word. 8 million pounds a day , yes a day to house folk in hotels !! im not sure i get the whole covid , flu , thing along with all the other stuff wasting money So, what has housing asylum seekers got to to with COVID? " there not checked if there vaccinated i guess..... | |||
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"ive got a cold ive got the flu ive got covid i feel a bit under the weather do we actually know what weve got lets be honest they shut the whole country down costing billion of pounds and everybody still caught covid great britain is trillions of pounds in debt due to the way the country is run , if it was a business it would be bankrupt. if dragons den folk ran the country and half a dozen wide boys theyd make money. lets be honest prime ministers and politicians arent trained or skilled at there job , if they were we wouldnt be in the debt we are in now..there just educated for want of a better word. 8 million pounds a day , yes a day to house folk in hotels !! im not sure i get the whole covid , flu , thing along with all the other stuff wasting money" Yeah, those millions of excess deaths worldwide caused by that cold If only we hadn't had lockdowns and vaccinations, everything would have carried on just as normal Or possibly not | |||
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"ive got a cold ive got the flu ive got covid i feel a bit under the weather do we actually know what weve got lets be honest they shut the whole country down costing billion of pounds and everybody still caught covid great britain is trillions of pounds in debt due to the way the country is run , if it was a business it would be bankrupt. if dragons den folk ran the country and half a dozen wide boys theyd make money. lets be honest prime ministers and politicians arent trained or skilled at there job , if they were we wouldnt be in the debt we are in now..there just educated for want of a better word. 8 million pounds a day , yes a day to house folk in hotels !! im not sure i get the whole covid , flu , thing along with all the other stuff wasting money So, what has housing asylum seekers got to to with COVID? there not checked if there vaccinated i guess....." But by your own post “everyone got it”…… | |||
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"ive got a cold ive got the flu ive got covid i feel a bit under the weather do we actually know what weve got lets be honest they shut the whole country down costing billion of pounds and everybody still caught covid great britain is trillions of pounds in debt due to the way the country is run , if it was a business it would be bankrupt. if dragons den folk ran the country and half a dozen wide boys theyd make money. lets be honest prime ministers and politicians arent trained or skilled at there job , if they were we wouldnt be in the debt we are in now..there just educated for want of a better word. 8 million pounds a day , yes a day to house folk in hotels !! im not sure i get the whole covid , flu , thing along with all the other stuff wasting money" it shows | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. " Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. " There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. " Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths | |||
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"If asked to describe what COVID is like to someone who's not had it, i wonder how many people would say its like flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of these symptoms; fever, fatigue, cough, sneezing, aches/pains, runny nose, sore throat, diarrhea, headaches, shortness of breath, saw a doctor and were told they had flu? Pre 2020, i wonder how many people with one or more of the symptoms above did not seek any medical opinion and stayed in bed for 10 days concluding they had flu?" Convergent evolution- on wishing to survive a virus will evolve in the best way possible to spread.although the flu and covid virus are not the same family the symptoms are similar I.e . Cough mucus temperature because this promotes spread. They are the same in that respect. The difference is evidence would suggest there is a long term issue with covid for certain victims | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. " Oh really,so official Government figures are wrong then? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths" Not on the scale there is now. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now." Sources? Figures? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures?" Obviously 2023 figures are provisional but cardiac deaths in uk are higher than before the pandemic. The death rates are pretty much the same every year 2020 to now. It's no surprise that figures rose when figures rose when people starred catching covid, covid can attack the organs. The big question is why they haven't gone down to pre pandemic levels. Some would say covid vaccination, if that is true then cardiac death rates should start to drop as vaccination rates are low now. My thought is that it's a combination of factors. Long covid and longer ambulance response times and general reduction over many years of health spending. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. " There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd | |||
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"20/30 years ago before the discovery of genomic sequence and DNA COVID would've been given the name Chinese Flu. But that's classed as "racist" and so it was given a new name, needlessly scaring shit out of people. Why during the idiotic overreaction to a new form of flu did flu and pneumonia plummet in figures as a cause of death?" Maybe because of lockdowns...?? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd" Sorry are you suggesting excess deaths can’t be linked to covid 19 vaccines? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures?" Ons,NHS England. The WHO have published data on the matter with scale of covid related and non Covid related excess deaths..Would you like some more? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures? Obviously 2023 figures are provisional but cardiac deaths in uk are higher than before the pandemic. The death rates are pretty much the same every year 2020 to now. It's no surprise that figures rose when figures rose when people starred catching covid, covid can attack the organs. The big question is why they haven't gone down to pre pandemic levels. Some would say covid vaccination, if that is true then cardiac death rates should start to drop as vaccination rates are low now. My thought is that it's a combination of factors. Long covid and longer ambulance response times and general reduction over many years of health spending." How do you come to such a conclusion, is that based on opinion or fact,because if it is fact let's see the source.. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd" What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures? Obviously 2023 figures are provisional but cardiac deaths in uk are higher than before the pandemic. The death rates are pretty much the same every year 2020 to now. It's no surprise that figures rose when figures rose when people starred catching covid, covid can attack the organs. The big question is why they haven't gone down to pre pandemic levels. Some would say covid vaccination, if that is true then cardiac death rates should start to drop as vaccination rates are low now. My thought is that it's a combination of factors. Long covid and longer ambulance response times and general reduction over many years of health spending. How do you come to such a conclusion, is that based on opinion or fact,because if it is fact let's see the source.." That facts are heart related deaths rose in 2020 and have not come down to pre pandemic levels that is fact. The cause well no one knows for certain so my opinion. I think you can probably discount vaccines as there was no spike when vaccines were rolled out and they haven't dropped off now vaccination rates have dropped dramatically. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures? Obviously 2023 figures are provisional but cardiac deaths in uk are higher than before the pandemic. The death rates are pretty much the same every year 2020 to now. It's no surprise that figures rose when figures rose when people starred catching covid, covid can attack the organs. The big question is why they haven't gone down to pre pandemic levels. Some would say covid vaccination, if that is true then cardiac death rates should start to drop as vaccination rates are low now. My thought is that it's a combination of factors. Long covid and longer ambulance response times and general reduction over many years of health spending. How do you come to such a conclusion, is that based on opinion or fact,because if it is fact let's see the source.. That facts are heart related deaths rose in 2020 and have not come down to pre pandemic levels that is fact. The cause well no one knows for certain so my opinion. I think you can probably discount vaccines as there was no spike when vaccines were rolled out and they haven't dropped off now vaccination rates have dropped dramatically." It would be good to have your source | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures " Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data." The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd Sorry are you suggesting excess deaths can’t be linked to covid 19 vaccines?" | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. Yeo, before Covid there were no sudden cardiac related deaths Not on the scale there is now. Sources? Figures? Obviously 2023 figures are provisional but cardiac deaths in uk are higher than before the pandemic. The death rates are pretty much the same every year 2020 to now. It's no surprise that figures rose when figures rose when people starred catching covid, covid can attack the organs. The big question is why they haven't gone down to pre pandemic levels. Some would say covid vaccination, if that is true then cardiac death rates should start to drop as vaccination rates are low now. My thought is that it's a combination of factors. Long covid and longer ambulance response times and general reduction over many years of health spending. How do you come to such a conclusion, is that based on opinion or fact,because if it is fact let's see the source.. That facts are heart related deaths rose in 2020 and have not come down to pre pandemic levels that is fact. The cause well no one knows for certain so my opinion. I think you can probably discount vaccines as there was no spike when vaccines were rolled out and they haven't dropped off now vaccination rates have dropped dramatically. It would be good to have your source " The British heart foundation has a good article that sums it up. There is a ONS response to a FOI. Lots of other sources broadly agree. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc." Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation." It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source." I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you." Read my first comment again,the Elephant in the room.. | |||
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"So now covid is pretty much the same as flu ? ....even if it is 2 different things , why is everyone still petrified of the covid ? ....worked through the pandemic not had covid not been jabbed is it just because I couldn't afford to take time off work .....or because I exercise take care of myself I'm baffled really, isn't it time to just live your life ??? " I don't know anyone who is now "petrified" of it. I'm sure if there's someone who is extremely unwell and likely to die, they will be upset, as their loved ones rightly will be. | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you. Read my first comment again,the Elephant in the room.." Covid can affect the heart, what about that pachyderm in the parlour? You will see few reports outside of YouTube that suggest that the vaccine is implicated in any significant way BTW the figures were higher in 2003, 2015 and 2017, what explanation does the good video doctor have for that? | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you. Read my first comment again,the Elephant in the room.. Covid can affect the heart, what about that pachyderm in the parlour? You will see few reports outside of YouTube that suggest that the vaccine is implicated in any significant way BTW the figures were higher in 2003, 2015 and 2017, what explanation does the good video doctor have for that?" What is it with some of you lot? Point one: where have I mentioned youtube as a source? Point two: I mentioned both cardiac and significant non Covid related excess deaths in my initial comment. My interpretation is irrelevant, the point I'm making is that there is silence from the medical profession, the mainstream media,and the Government,and every other connected authority. How strange given the numbers involved. Could I suggest that you read comments correctly before jumping on your soap box to make wild inaccurate assumptions. | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd " It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. " Cough I commented | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. " Worth noting that Dr Campbell is not a medical doctor. | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. Cough I commented" And you're never missed . I meant that those who have got fired up, from the millions of viewings of extremely misleading claims trying to dent the amazing Covid vaccines, with heart scares, haven't taken notice and posted, upon the positives, after the totally inaccurate YouTube post got removed. | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. Cough I commented And you're never missed . I meant that those who have got fired up, from the millions of viewings of extremely misleading claims trying to dent the amazing Covid vaccines, with heart scares, haven't taken notice and posted, upon the positives, after the totally inaccurate YouTube post got removed. " | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you. Read my first comment again,the Elephant in the room.. Covid can affect the heart, what about that pachyderm in the parlour? You will see few reports outside of YouTube that suggest that the vaccine is implicated in any significant way BTW the figures were higher in 2003, 2015 and 2017, what explanation does the good video doctor have for that? What is it with some of you lot? Point one: where have I mentioned youtube as a source? Point two: I mentioned both cardiac and significant non Covid related excess deaths in my initial comment. My interpretation is irrelevant, the point I'm making is that there is silence from the medical profession, the mainstream media,and the Government,and every other connected authority. How strange given the numbers involved. Could I suggest that you read comments correctly before jumping on your soap box to make wild inaccurate assumptions. " Oh the beautiful beautiful irony | |||
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"Don’t forget sudden cardiac related deaths. Shusss there's an Elephant in the room. No one wants to talk about sudden cardiac related deaths or the very high numbers of excess deaths that are non Covid related. There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd What utter claptrap.. Go on, try and dispell the Data printed by WHO or the ONS or any official Government from around the world who are seeing these increased figures Why is it claptrap? Are you a Campbell fan? The podcast states Campbell took down his video after being presented with this data. The WHO haven't taken down their data or the ONS etc. Feel free to share the data and your interpretation. It's not my Data it's the WHO'S data and the ONS ,and if you want to see it stop being so lazy and look.Ive given you the source. I stated THE data and YOUR interpretation! THE data may not match YOUR interpretation and that is what I want to see. But, seeing as you cannot be arsed, I will cease interacting with you. Read my first comment again,the Elephant in the room.. Covid can affect the heart, what about that pachyderm in the parlour? You will see few reports outside of YouTube that suggest that the vaccine is implicated in any significant way BTW the figures were higher in 2003, 2015 and 2017, what explanation does the good video doctor have for that? What is it with some of you lot? Point one: where have I mentioned youtube as a source? Point two: I mentioned both cardiac and significant non Covid related excess deaths in my initial comment. My interpretation is irrelevant, the point I'm making is that there is silence from the medical profession, the mainstream media,and the Government,and every other connected authority. How strange given the numbers involved. Could I suggest that you read comments correctly before jumping on your soap box to make wild inaccurate assumptions. Oh the beautiful beautiful irony" Assumptions Assumptions Assumptions,dear lord | |||
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" There's also been quietness around miscalculated figures that snake oil salesmen put into places like YouTube, that have misled their followers. There's a good BBC statistical analysis programme, on the YouTube man John Campbell, who clarified that he's not a statistical analysis expert, when he completely misrepresented the data, claiming the opposite of the facts . His false claims have led to millions of people believing total BS, including upon cardiac problems and deaths https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gj8frd It's interesting that there's not been any comments about the accuracy of the programme and how people have publicly misrepresented data, that have supported an inaccurate agenda. Worth noting that Dr Campbell is not a medical doctor." Dr Aseem Malhotra is. A cardiologist. Who’s also busy raising awareness about the potential dangers of MRNA technology and the heart. Thought that was worth a mention. | |||
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