Join us FREE, we're FREE to use
Web's largest swingers site since 2006.
Already registered?
Login here
Back to forum list |
Back to Virus |
Jump to newest |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Hello lovely What is worrying you. I've just had my latest about 2 weeks ago, was tired for 24 hours and had a sore arm at the injection point for a day or two " Hello sweetie, I'm not convinced I need another one?.. x | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Only you can convince yourself either way. I would say go for it, and if I could have it, I would. Others here will say don't have it. Choice is yours. There is more than enough 'argument' out there, one way or the other." Yeah I get that..I've never hesitated before...never reacted to it..had covid twice and convinced I would of been worse without the jab..so I'm not sure why I feel like I do x | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Hello lovely What is worrying you. I've just had my latest about 2 weeks ago, was tired for 24 hours and had a sore arm at the injection point for a day or two Hello sweetie, I'm not convinced I need another one?.. x" after seeing now poorly some friends have been after having the recent version, I treat it like my flu vaccine | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Hey diabetic here I’ve had three covid injections. Had covid. Get my flu one every year. But I’m in same boat. I no longer want any of the new jabs. But that stems from my total change in mental capacity since it all. I still can’t smell and taste correctly. And other mental health issues haven’t improved despite having change my meds multiple times. As other have said it’s your choice. Charlotte xx | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Have you ever had covid, and if yes, when? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " If you are clinically vulnerable, live with someone who is then perhaps you should as those groups are at increased risk of severe illness. Otherwise, I’d say there is little need. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really If you are clinically vulnerable, live with someone who is then perhaps you should as those groups are at increased risk of severe illness. Otherwise, I’d say there is little need. " I agree. The only ones being offered a covid vaccination are the people you mentioned. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Only you can convince yourself either way. I would say go for it, and if I could have it, I would. Others here will say don't have it. Choice is yours. There is more than enough 'argument' out there, one way or the other. Yeah I get that..I've never hesitated before...never reacted to it..had covid twice and convinced I would of been worse without the jab..so I'm not sure why I feel like I do x" Out of interest why were you convinced that you would have been worse without the vaccine? Are you feeling cautious now due to the revelations of the damage the vaccines can potentially do? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Only you can convince yourself either way. I would say go for it, and if I could have it, I would. Others here will say don't have it. Choice is yours. There is more than enough 'argument' out there, one way or the other. Yeah I get that..I've never hesitated before...never reacted to it..had covid twice and convinced I would of been worse without the jab..so I'm not sure why I feel like I do x Out of interest why were you convinced that you would have been worse without the vaccine? Are you feeling cautious now due to the revelations of the damage the vaccines can potentially do?" I'm certainly not cautious, as the many vaccines are predominantly fantastic, positive net benefits for health outcomes | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Only you can convince yourself either way. I would say go for it, and if I could have it, I would. Others here will say don't have it. Choice is yours. There is more than enough 'argument' out there, one way or the other. Yeah I get that..I've never hesitated before...never reacted to it..had covid twice and convinced I would of been worse without the jab..so I'm not sure why I feel like I do x Out of interest why were you convinced that you would have been worse without the vaccine? Are you feeling cautious now due to the revelations of the damage the vaccines can potentially do? I'm certainly not cautious, as the many vaccines are predominantly fantastic, positive net benefits for health outcomes " Well I guess as long as you believe that then it is all good. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’m not able to this time. Why have they changed the age boundaries this time? For financial reasons? Or something else?" Only old, vulnerable and patient facing are eligible. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"No evidence it works & plenty of evidence it causes harm. The time for blindly trusting government sponsored 'experts' & TV doctors has expired. But don't take my word for it, research the science yourself & form an opinion." Yes, don't take his word for it | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’m not able to this time. Why have they changed the age boundaries this time? For financial reasons? Or something else? Only old, vulnerable and patient facing are eligible." Do you agree with that? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’m not able to this time. Why have they changed the age boundaries this time? For financial reasons? Or something else? Only old, vulnerable and patient facing are eligible. Do you agree with that?" Very much so. I'm eligible as patient facing but not having it. If you want it but not eligible, you could enquire as to paying for it. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’m not able to this time. Why have they changed the age boundaries this time? For financial reasons? Or something else? Only old, vulnerable and patient facing are eligible. Do you agree with that? Very much so. I'm eligible as patient facing but not having it. If you want it but not eligible, you could enquire as to paying for it." I’ve always been pro-vax but I had a friend that was fit and healthy but had a heart attack about two weeks after last booster. She had so many tests and the consultant said and I quote “ you have perfect plumbing” they just couldn’t find a reason for the heart attack. However the consultant asked how long since she last had a booster. She asked if it was relevant and he said it can in rare cases cause inflammation of the artistries | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it." Do speak to your GP. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it." That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! " It's not incredible, it's just 'doing the math'. Side effect of vaccine: Bells Palsy. Side effect of no vaccine: respiratory failure & potential death. Anyone got a brain and an abacus? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " So instead of asking a qualified medical expert you seek guidance from random people on a sex site? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! It's not incredible, it's just 'doing the math'. Side effect of vaccine: Bells Palsy. Side effect of no vaccine: respiratory failure & potential death. Anyone got a brain and an abacus?" Spoken like a true cult of covid gang member. Lol | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! It's not incredible, it's just 'doing the math'. Side effect of vaccine: Bells Palsy. Side effect of no vaccine: respiratory failure & potential death. Anyone got a brain and an abacus?" General rate of Bell's palsy in the population p.a. 25 per 100,000 Rate of Bell's palsy following vaccination, 25 per 1,000,000 Of which the the vast majority make a full recovery without further intervention You are unlikely to find this on YT | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. Do speak to your GP." I did speak to my GP. He said to have the vaccine because as i have bad lung disease it's important to prevent or lessen the effects of covid. However he didn't know about (until i told him and showed him the vacine leaflet where it mentions it) Bells Palsy being connected to having the vacine. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! " I have very bad lung disease, i fear covid more than Bells Palsy. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I wasn't sure about having the latest jab and had decided not to have it but locally the numbers of people with covid have risen so i have now booked to have it tomorrow, i will have my flu vacine at the same time. I am in the clinically vulnerable group anyway and kept getting email reminders to book them both. The reason i am concerned is because i got Bells Palsy twice last year following a booster and the doctors said that it can be caused by the vaccine as it can cause inflamation in our bodies. At one point it did have Bells Palsy written on the info sheet as a possible side effect. I am nervous about it. That is pretty incredible that you've had Bells Palsy not just once but twice after a vaccination and you are considering having another one! It's not incredible, it's just 'doing the math'. Side effect of vaccine: Bells Palsy. Side effect of no vaccine: respiratory failure & potential death. Anyone got a brain and an abacus?" | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’m not able to this time. Why have they changed the age boundaries this time? For financial reasons? Or something else? Only old, vulnerable and patient facing are eligible. Do you agree with that? Very much so. I'm eligible as patient facing but not having it. If you want it but not eligible, you could enquire as to paying for it. I’ve always been pro-vax but I had a friend that was fit and healthy but had a heart attack about two weeks after last booster. She had so many tests and the consultant said and I quote “ you have perfect plumbing” they just couldn’t find a reason for the heart attack. However the consultant asked how long since she last had a booster. She asked if it was relevant and he said it can in rare cases cause inflammation of the artistries " Presumably, they still have no understanding of the cause of her problem. The vaccines are still substantially the better option for the majority of vulnerable people. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Ask yourself why do you need it? Are you at risk from dying from it? If you have serious underlying problems then take it if not why would you after so many people have had serious side effects from it. " Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Ask yourself why do you need it? Are you at risk from dying from it? If you have serious underlying problems then take it if not why would you after so many people have had serious side effects from it. " This - absolutely. It’s like any vaccination. It’s optional and up to you to think if you need it or not. Guidance would state that if you’re young and with a normal immune system then you don’t need it. Not snake oil to be concerned about vaccination (although I agree the more vehement anti-vaxxers are slightly concerning!). The news about the AZ jab is concerning but only affects a tiny proportion of those jabbed. I have most vaccinations because of work but I make a choice about ones which I don’t 100% need, as should everyone. Don’t feel bad about not wanting a vaccination, whatever that is for. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Ask yourself why do you need it? Are you at risk from dying from it? If you have serious underlying problems then take it if not why would you after so many people have had serious side effects from it. " We’re in the same boat, this vaccine seems to have too many question marks about it. We got the original vaccine and boosters and still tested positive later for Covid albeit with minor symptoms . On the other hand we have in the past had bad flu so always get the jab, also as swingers we’ve had the Monkeypox jab ad well as Hepatitis A&B & boosters all with no ill effects. So not opposed to vaccines but have taken a pass on the Covid one. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Hi just read about graphene and you will realise you hurting yourself.... After 5-10 years you will see what I mean... Graphene is inside covid jabs and boosters and causes strokes heart attack and meany meany more.... So better open your eyes and start educating yourself that is good advice. Check how many people's died in Africa and India because of jabs.... and who's responsible for that???? Bill Gates foundation... | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"No evidence it works & plenty of evidence it causes harm. The time for blindly trusting government sponsored 'experts' & TV doctors has expired. But don't take my word for it, research the science yourself & form an opinion." I'm sure most of us has and come to the exact opposite conclusion. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned." I'm sure you are totally au fait with their make-up | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Had latest booster couple weeks back no problem but declined flu vaccine. as will shingles vaccine think one vaccine enough rather than a cocktail of many" I totally agree....I opted out of the flu vaccine too....never got it actually after an adverse reaction years ago....I don't know why I was given a flu vaccine at aged 23 anyway.....but jeez I got the worst flu ever 6 times after getting that flu jab....never ever again will I get it | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. " What benefits ? Even when you've had every jab available you can still catch covid, pass it on, be hospitalised & die. Surely the purpose of a vaccine is to provide immunity, these jabs do nothing of the sort even after multiple doses. Also, I don't call a 1 in 800 chance of developing myocarditis a 'miniscule risk. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. What benefits ? Even when you've had every jab available you can still catch covid, pass it on, be hospitalised & die. Surely the purpose of a vaccine is to provide immunity, these jabs do nothing of the sort even after multiple doses. Also, I don't call a 1 in 800 chance of developing myocarditis a 'miniscule risk." Dunno where you are getting your figures from the highest are 35 in 100000 in one age group for one particular vaccine, 12 to 17 males hence why that vaccine was not given that age group. The chance of getting mycarditis after covid is 80 in 1000000 for this age group. The chance of someone that age dying from mycarditis is pretty small. People any age are not that likely to die of mycarditis, you have a chance of 2 in 100000 of getting mycarditis before covid and that is increased 11 fold after a covid infection. The benefits of the jab well less likely to die or be hospitalized. People have the vaccine or not. But don't put rubbish from Facebook as facts | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. What benefits ? Even when you've had every jab available you can still catch covid, pass it on, be hospitalised & die. Surely the purpose of a vaccine is to provide immunity, these jabs do nothing of the sort even after multiple doses. Also, I don't call a 1 in 800 chance of developing myocarditis a 'miniscule risk." The vaccine primes your immune system in order for it to have a head start at fighting the virus. Cannot be bothered at being technical at this time of night. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. What benefits ? Even when you've had every jab available you can still catch covid, pass it on, be hospitalised & die. Surely the purpose of a vaccine is to provide immunity, these jabs do nothing of the sort even after multiple doses. Also, I don't call a 1 in 800 chance of developing myocarditis a 'miniscule risk." Oh dear! . Your lack of understanding of human health, immunity and vaccines is clear. Sterilising immunity is a lovely dream, where you'd be immune from infections and transmissionm. It's fairly rare in practice, as has been discussed just in this forum, rather a lot. The types of cells that get infected also predispose the likelihood, or not, of this happening. The mutation rate of infections also influences the probability of immunity that's gained from infections or via vaccines, being appropriate to counter future mutated infections. We've become accustomed to annual flu jabs that reflect the predicted dominant flu strains, for example. Vaccinations have been game changers for human health. We don't suffer the variety of conditions that we used to. Cervical cancer may become absent in the next few years . Covid vaccines helped to open up the world again, within just months of the pandemic starting and they were positive net health benefits. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned." Is it marmite? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned. Is it marmite? " Probably worse | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned. Is it marmite? " That would explain a lot. Marmite is vile | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned. Is it marmite? That would explain a lot. Marmite is vile " Yup... | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Covid vaccines helped to open up the world again, within just months of the pandemic starting and they were positive net health benefits." With zero negative effects? It’s ok it can be successful at preventing death in some and cause death in others, you must be able to admit that. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I Dare not say what's really in these jabs. I'll get banned." No you won’t, now be a good boy and put up or shut up x Mr DD | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Boy oh boy you vaccine zealots are something else!" What is a vaccine zealot? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Boy oh boy you vaccine zealots are something else! What is a vaccine zealot?" Doctors, health professionals, scientists those sort of people. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
Reply privately |
"Paid to tell you fibs! Lol" Paid by whom? I’m guessing either the government or the New World Order | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" Largely because the benefits very strongly outweigh the miniscule risk, which some charlatans and snake oil salesmen have been peddling. What benefits ? Even when you've had every jab available you can still catch covid, pass it on, be hospitalised & die. Surely the purpose of a vaccine is to provide immunity, these jabs do nothing of the sort even after multiple doses. Also, I don't call a 1 in 800 chance of developing myocarditis a 'miniscule risk. Dunno where you are getting your figures from the highest are 35 in 100000 in one age group for one particular vaccine, 12 to 17 males hence why that vaccine was not given that age group. The chance of getting mycarditis after covid is 80 in 1000000 for this age group. The chance of someone that age dying from mycarditis is pretty small. People any age are not that likely to die of mycarditis, you have a chance of 2 in 100000 of getting mycarditis before covid and that is increased 11 fold after a covid infection. The benefits of the jab well less likely to die or be hospitalized. People have the vaccine or not. But don't put rubbish from Facebook as facts" I think he's conflated myocarditis and serious adverse events. Serious adverse events are around 1:1000 | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " I had severe palpitations after the first Booster jab and not had any more covid jabs since. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago " Glad you've done so much better Nell . And that you're on the mend x | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Glad you've done so much better Nell . And that you're on the mend x" Thank you xx | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago " Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Check our Dr John Campbell on YouTube… M&B xxx | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really Check our Dr John Campbell on YouTube… M&B xxx" Feel free just be aware he isn't a medical doctor. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really Check our Dr John Campbell on YouTube… M&B xxx" Why? John is not a medical doctor. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter " It's a hard subject to debate | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"No evidence it works & plenty of evidence it causes harm. The time for blindly trusting government sponsored 'experts' & TV doctors has expired. But don't take my word for it, research the science yourself & form an opinion. Yes, don't take his word for it " Exactly. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really Check our Dr John Campbell on YouTube… M&B xxx" Apart from his lack of relevant expertise, that he's had videos and his nonsense claims discredited, plus his statistics are BS, as he says he doesn't understand statistics, why on earth would any sane person with concern for health, even consider it for a nanosecond! | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Apart from his lack of relevant expertise, that he's had videos and his nonsense claims discredited, plus his statistics are BS, as he says he doesn't understand statistics, why on earth would any sane person with concern for health, even consider it for a nanosecond! " Confirmation bias. We all do it. If someone was spouting ill-informed crap in the pub you’d eyeroll and move away. It’s the same online. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Apart from his lack of relevant expertise, that he's had videos and his nonsense claims discredited, plus his statistics are BS, as he says he doesn't understand statistics, why on earth would any sane person with concern for health, even consider it for a nanosecond! Confirmation bias. We all do it. If someone was spouting ill-informed crap in the pub you’d eyeroll and move away. It’s the same online. " Sadly, visits earn him £ and act as confirmation bias supporters, as increasing viewers boosts the likes of him | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. " It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy." Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy." Well I think you’re brave taking a treatment again, after it harmed you before. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site?" little evidence it works.... really. The millions it has saved not enough. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site?" You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy." I'm glad you made an informed decision for you. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits " Guide me to the mountains, please. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site?" There's loads of evidence it works. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Well I think you’re brave taking a treatment again, after it harmed you before. " Covid would harm me far more than Bells Palsy. I have a bad lung disease so getting covid without some protection would most likely kill me. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? little evidence it works.... really. The millions it has saved not enough. " | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits " | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits " The vaccine plan death toll is 432112 people dead. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits The vaccine plan death toll is 432112 people dead. " 432112 is also a postcode used by scammers in Nigeria Just saying ......... | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. Honestly, there's little evidence it works & plenty highlighting the dangers, you're rolling the dice for no rational reason if you decide to partake. Did Bell's not ring alarm bells, as a reaction to something that's supposed to remain in the injection site? You seem to have got things a little mixed up. There's mountains of evidence for the benefits of the vaccines. Conversely, the opposite for harmful issues, which are dwarfed by the benefits The vaccine plan death toll is 432112 people dead. " I heard it was 432113 | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
Reply privately |
"Never had one and never will, " Great input | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter " The entire population hasn't been terrorised, threatened, coerced and manipulated to take this product in order to participate in everyday society and/or to keep their jobs. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter The entire population hasn't been terrorised, threatened, coerced and manipulated to take this product in order to participate in everyday society and/or to keep their jobs. " Crossing a road is infinitely more risky than taking any vaccine. How many billion doses ? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter The entire population hasn't been terrorised, threatened, coerced and manipulated to take this product in order to participate in everyday society and/or to keep their jobs. Crossing a road is infinitely more risky than taking any vaccine. How many billion doses ?" I'll take my chances crossing that road. I won't willingly with vaccines ever again! | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter The entire population hasn't been terrorised, threatened, coerced and manipulated to take this product in order to participate in everyday society and/or to keep their jobs. Crossing a road is infinitely more risky than taking any vaccine. How many billion doses ? I'll take my chances crossing that road. I won't willingly with vaccines ever again! " OMG ... You'll cross the road ... Daredevil !! | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy." No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"19 people a year in the UK die as a direct result of Viagra. Don't see people campaigning against that or going on the YouTube's. Guess it's not a trendy subject matter The entire population hasn't been terrorised, threatened, coerced and manipulated to take this product in order to participate in everyday society and/or to keep their jobs. Crossing a road is infinitely more risky than taking any vaccine. How many billion doses ? I'll take my chances crossing that road. I won't willingly with vaccines ever again! " Agree | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage." That's not true. Even if it was i have no nerve damage and i've had Bells Palsy twice I'd rather have Bells Palsy than covid anyway. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. Yes, good luck It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage. That's not true. Even if it was i have no nerve damage and i've had Bells Palsy twice I'd rather have Bells Palsy than covid anyway." | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. Yes, good luck It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage. That's not true. Even if it was i have no nerve damage and i've had Bells Palsy twice I'd rather have Bells Palsy than covid anyway. " Was supposed to say 'best of luck' and then the | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. Yes, good luck It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage. That's not true. Even if it was i have no nerve damage and i've had Bells Palsy twice I'd rather have Bells Palsy than covid anyway. Was supposed to say 'best of luck' and then the " | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've seen on another site that the guardians of The Truth are saying that Mathew Perry had a heart attack caused by the "clot shot" Apparently anyone who has a heart attack, especially if they're famous, then the most likely cause is the vaccine Hahaha...I bet the NHS love you. I've passed this knowledge onto the NHS for the good of humanity" | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Well i had the latest covid jab and flu jab. Had no side effects except a sore arm. Plus i didn't get Bells Palsy like i did a year ago Gotta give you kudos for your bravery. It's not bravery. If i get Covid i possibly die if i have no protection. You don't die from Bells Palsy. No but now you have had it once, you are athigher risk of having it again. With each further case of palsy more likely to leave you with permanent nerve damage. That's not true. Even if it was i have no nerve damage and i've had Bells Palsy twice I'd rather have Bells Palsy than covid anyway." Recovery rates are lower in patients with recurrent bell's palsy. Glad you made a full recovery both times. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " dont have it covid will never go away just like flu boosters do nothing apart from make you feel ill | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really dont have it covid will never go away just like flu boosters do nothing apart from make you feel ill" Source: University of Facebook. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really dont have it covid will never go away just like flu boosters do nothing apart from make you feel ill" Apart from the huge benefits to the millions of people in vulnerable populations | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really dont have it covid will never go away just like flu boosters do nothing apart from make you feel ill Apart from the huge benefits to the millions of people in vulnerable populations " | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"COVID jabs are a waste of time I have had COVID twice fist time I had a bad headache and no energy.and my legs was killing me and felt unwell but didn’t have any problems of breathing and I do have health problems second time it was like having a bit of a cold I would say having flu is a lot worse then COVID. I would research Covid if I was you more people have die or had life changing events then you know but you have to do what you think is best for you " So I should extrapolate your experience to the whole world ? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"COVID jabs are a waste of time I have had COVID twice fist time I had a bad headache and no energy.and my legs was killing me and felt unwell but didn’t have any problems of breathing and I do have health problems second time it was like having a bit of a cold I would say having flu is a lot worse then COVID. I would research Covid if I was you more people have die or had life changing events then you know but you have to do what you think is best for you " Let em injure themselves, covidian cult requires the victim to comply and to not engage critical thinking for that is wrong think. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril " You're right, what other country in the world would fall for it ? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril " Yeah, of course cancer didn’t exist prior to the vaccine program…… | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Had all injections offered to me: covid, boosters, flu, pneumonococcal.. never had an adverse reaction; never had covid, flu etc... For me - it does what it says on the tin..." Then you got lucky, all you got were empty saline shots. You dodged a bullet. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Yeah, of course cancer didn’t exist prior to the vaccine program…… " And nobody died of blood clots either.... Oh .. wait ... | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"It’s interesting to see how the meaning of ‘critical thinking’ has evolved in some quarters to mean ‘I know better than the experts who have spent years studying and working in these fields. Hubris." Only of course in your opinion. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Yeah, of course cancer didn’t exist prior to the vaccine program…… And nobody died of blood clots either.... Oh .. wait ..." even though the people who developed blood clots after having covid was higher.. also blood clot risk of the pill is higher... but seems some can't read that bit of the evidence | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril " At least the evidence is clear and we don't need to be concerned | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"It’s interesting to see how the meaning of ‘critical thinking’ has evolved in some quarters to mean ‘I know better than the experts who have spent years studying and working in these fields. Hubris. Only of course in your opinion." Experts… Polititians and big pharma, they obviously have no reason to lie | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"It’s interesting to see how the meaning of ‘critical thinking’ has evolved in some quarters to mean ‘I know better than the experts who have spent years studying and working in these fields. Hubris. Only of course in your opinion. Experts… Polititians and big pharma, they obviously have no reason to lie " Question Is there a small pharma ? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril " Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people." There is a working theory that anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists are so scared of the truth that the world is essentially chaotic and out of control that they believe conspiracy theories as a defence mechanism to protect their mental health. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people. There is a working theory that anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists are so scared of the truth that the world is essentially chaotic and out of control that they believe conspiracy theories as a defence mechanism to protect their mental health." Which is a theory that I find harder to believe than, ‘people have died of vaccine injury’. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril " Actually it's a fact that more people have died choking on chewing gum than have developed myocardial issues due to the vaccine. Take care out there | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Had 1st 2 jabs, felt crap after both, then when shit hit fan in way things were handled i said not a chance id have another, unless blekmailed into it with threats on travel etc | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people." Spot the narcissist! | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people. Spot the narcissist!" There have been enormous volumes of BS spouted by those antivaxxers though, especially via social media, where many of them have profited from the misery of the masses | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Which provides the best immunity, having had the vaccine or having had the disease? Spoiler, it’s the disease and it takes up to 10 months to develop. I’ve once tried sharing a study on here about this and got blocked. If you’ve had covid before and don’t have a faulty immune system you are already a lower risk. " it doesn't last though. I had covid. And was part of an immune study I posted a study on here that agreed that the best immunity was from the virus and the vaccine. Unfortunately though, in the early days covid was killing lots of people... the vaccine is only available now to those that would be at risk from it. My immune system is very good but my levels of response to the virus fell after 6 months... it boosted apparent quite well after my first vaccine... I technically didn't need the 2nd but as I was working with vulnerable people and live with a vulnerable person I did. I think I've had 5 or 6 vaccines now. I get my flu vaccine every year. My daughter refused the vaccine.. and got covid .. she has had issues with pulmonary embolisms ever since. She's on her 2nd one now in just over a year. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Which provides the best immunity, having had the vaccine or having had the disease? Spoiler, it’s the disease and it takes up to 10 months to develop. I’ve once tried sharing a study on here about this and got blocked. If you’ve had covid before and don’t have a faulty immune system you are already a lower risk. " Contracting covid and also having the vaccine is actually the best protection according to the data (yes there is no paradox there - you are less likely to get covid a 2nd time if you are vaxxed than unvaxxed) the symptoms if you do are less severe too. Main question really is, like the flu jab, how vulnerable are you and how dangerous is covid currently? I don't feel at present any need for a booster as im relatively young and healthy and there is no pandemic so little need to create large scale protection of others - this os different to 2020 | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"No evidence it works & plenty of evidence it causes harm. The time for blindly trusting government sponsored 'experts' & TV doctors has expired. But don't take my word for it, research the science yourself & form an opinion." This is complete misinformation. I’m taking it as tho you’ve not worked within the NHS labs or an Covid environment. Thousands of studies have now been established and 99.3% systematically came to the same conclusion vaccines are safe. With an average of 30/50 people per one million people having an implication. Where without the vaccine the arrange death rate would be 100,00 people per million. Take it from someone who’s seen and worked with Covid first hand the vaccines are safe and the best option to save life’s, reduce symptoms and slow the rate of transmission | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Which provides the best immunity, having had the vaccine or having had the disease? Spoiler, it’s the disease and it takes up to 10 months to develop. I’ve once tried sharing a study on here about this and got blocked. If you’ve had covid before and don’t have a faulty immune system you are already a lower risk. it doesn't last though. I had covid. And was part of an immune study I posted a study on here that agreed that the best immunity was from the virus and the vaccine. Unfortunately though, in the early days covid was killing lots of people... the vaccine is only available now to those that would be at risk from it. My immune system is very good but my levels of response to the virus fell after 6 months... it boosted apparent quite well after my first vaccine... I technically didn't need the 2nd but as I was working with vulnerable people and live with a vulnerable person I did. I think I've had 5 or 6 vaccines now. I get my flu vaccine every year. My daughter refused the vaccine.. and got covid .. she has had issues with pulmonary embolisms ever since. She's on her 2nd one now in just over a year. " So sorry to hear about your daughter. I hope she recovers. Apparently some of our bodies react badly to spike proteins regardless of them being in a vaccine or attached to a virus. When was the study you were in? Was it looking at Primary responses? Primary antibody levels drop within weeks of beating an infection. Secondary immune responses typically start to develop early in an infection, are much more effective and pushes a win over the line for your body. Covid however takes up to 10 months for the body to fully develop secondary immunity. This immunity may last as long as your immune system though. It’s worth mentioning that primary research using live cell tissue from people who survived H5N1 bird flu in 2007 found they have solid secondary immunity to covid without a vaccine or prior covid infection all these years on. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
" people who survived H5N1 bird flu in 2007 found they have solid secondary immunity to covid without a vaccine or prior covid infection all these years on. " How did they figure that when very few caught bird flu and a high proportion of people had an immunity to COVID anyways? Having a vaccine is better than playing russian roulette with COVID and your life. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"If you are old or immunocompromised then you might be better off with it. If you are not old and relatively healthy/fit, no need as it is just a cold." Tell that to the tens of thousands of youngsters who suffer every week | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"If you are old or immunocompromised then you might be better off with it. If you are not old and relatively healthy/fit, no need as it is just a cold." Some people may eschew the concept of vaccines or the relevance of medical expertise because they wrongly overestimate their ability to appraise their own medical safety. Known in social psychology as the Dunning-Kruger effect, this phenomenon describes a misperception of higher-than-actual competence by people who are unaware of their own shortfall in knowledge and expertise. *Quote from The Psychiatrist | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I've had a number of boosters etc etc...but for some reason I'm stalling on booking the next one..need some guidance really " Had mine weeks ago | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Hello lovely What is worrying you. I've just had my latest about 2 weeks ago, was tired for 24 hours and had a sore arm at the injection point for a day or two Hello sweetie, I'm not convinced I need another one?.. x" each is for a different strain. Don't you stay informed? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"When i was younger we had 1 Polio jab,1 BCG jab, ! Smallpox jab lasting supposedly for life and majority of people no side effects now most folks jabbed last three years or so jabbed 5/6 times and many are now suffering bad side effects so if you trust these lying scumbag charlatans in charge telling us the truth then go ahead all the best either way " "How long do vaccines last? The surprising answers may help protect people longer"... Google it and be enlightened. Assuming all vaccines infer lifelong immunity is incorrect. One of the reasons is how stable the pathogen is. High frequency of mutations eventually means the memory cells (produced by vaccine or pathogen exposure) no longer recognise the current pathogen. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Whole thing is a con. Myocarditis in people since the roll out is unbelievable people I know have developed cancer . It’s evil take at ya own peril Unfortunately "anti vaxxers" have been conditioned by social media. The movement is not unlike the religious cults who prey on the vulnerable and lure them in with misinformation and lies, the vaccine hesitant are particularly at risk There are up groups set up specifically to deprogram these unfortunate people. Spot the narcissist!" how do you work that one out when the poster hasn't mentioned himself at all? | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"Which provides the best immunity, having had the vaccine or having had the disease? Spoiler, it’s the disease and it takes up to 10 months to develop. I’ve once tried sharing a study on here about this and got blocked. If you’ve had covid before and don’t have a faulty immune system you are already a lower risk. " You can put the name of the research, just not provide a link. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"When i was younger we had 1 Polio jab,1 BCG jab, ! Smallpox jab lasting supposedly for life and majority of people no side effects now most folks jabbed last three years or so jabbed 5/6 times and many are now suffering bad side effects so if you trust these lying scumbag charlatans in charge telling us the truth then go ahead all the best either way " Very few people have been "jabbed" 5 or 6 times and "bad side effects" are exceptionally rare in fact they mostly occur on YouTube and not the real world | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"When i was younger we had 1 Polio jab,1 BCG jab, ! Smallpox jab lasting supposedly for life and majority of people no side effects now most folks jabbed last three years or so jabbed 5/6 times and many are now suffering bad side effects so if you trust these lying scumbag charlatans in charge telling us the truth then go ahead all the best either way " Vaccines vary, as do viruses. Sterilising immunity is not something that all vaccines produce. People may thus get infected but the overall goal is to reduce illness severity and to prevent deaths. If infectivity is reduced, such as we've seen with some Covid vaccines, it may reduce the numbers of others who we go on to infect With viruses that mutate, we typically need supplementary vaccines, as our earlier immunity may not recognize the mutated virus. | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
"I’ve had 7. I’m immunosuppressed, covid has been in my household 3 times and I’ve always tested negative. I do think I’ve had it this last time though as awful cough and temperature and just felt a bit shit. The only side effect I’ve had, from three of the 7 was that my period went a little crazy, which I know a lot of people have had that. But it settles again quickly. " I wish you continued good health | |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
| |||
(closed, thread got too big) |
Reply privately |
back to top |