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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . " had the first two then caught coovid about two months later so havent botherd with anymore | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . " They are just for the vulnerable (Inc elderly) and patient-facing staff. Like flu vaccines. | |||
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"only people over 60 this year get get free this year " Nope I've been booked in for mine and I'm only 51 | |||
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"Surely nobody is still rolling their sleeve up for this?? " What? Has YouTube revealed something! Why weren't we informed! | |||
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"I had my first 2, then they discontinued the AZ jab and I wasn't keen on getting pfizer one. I also read up more on its inability to stop transmission and how quick the efficacy fades, then I got covid again so didn't see the point in a booster. I also don't bother with flu jab. I must be due a tetanus though. It's been years since I needed one of those." If you've had a tetanus jab as an adult then that covers you now. You do not need another. | |||
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"I had my first 2, then they discontinued the AZ jab and I wasn't keen on getting pfizer one. I also read up more on its inability to stop transmission and how quick the efficacy fades, then I got covid again so didn't see the point in a booster. I also don't bother with flu jab. I must be due a tetanus though. It's been years since I needed one of those. If you've had a tetanus jab as an adult then that covers you now. You do not need another." It's over 10 years since my tetanus shot. I'd get another if I was bitten by an animal. | |||
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"Surely nobody is still rolling their sleeve up for this?? What? Has YouTube revealed something! Why weren't we informed!" What’s your source of information besides the teLIEvision? Question everything and research the answers… (not on YouTube obviously)! | |||
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"Surely nobody is still rolling their sleeve up for this?? What? Has YouTube revealed something! Why weren't we informed! What’s your source of information besides the teLIEvision? Question everything and research the answers… (not on YouTube obviously)!" I'm guessing you'll be taking a doctorate in a relevant area then, since you're so into proper research? | |||
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"only people over 60 this year get get free this year " Not true. My daughter is 26 and just had her email to book hers. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . " Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again" I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. | |||
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"I had a doctor once tell me to stop checking the internet for medical advice. Then I asked him a question (a pretty basic one as well) and guess where he looked for the answer? Unreal. A mouse with red cross tattooed on it's back would be more help." Yup, I had similar. The same doctor also gave me penicillin despite telling him twice I was allergic and it coming up on his computer that I was also allergic. Can't question any medical professional or scientist on here though, you'll be labelled a tin foil hat wearer. It's a moot point though because now I can't get a doctors appointment if I begged, borrowed or stole one. So if anyone knows any witch doctors let me know | |||
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"I had a doctor once tell me to stop checking the internet for medical advice. Then I asked him a question (a pretty basic one as well) and guess where he looked for the answer? Unreal. . A mouse with red cross tattooed on it's back would be more help.Yup, I had similar. The same doctor also gave me penicillin despite telling him twice I was allergic and it coming up on his computer that I was also allergic. Can't question any medical professional or scientist on here though, you'll be labelled a tin foil hat wearer. It's a moot point though because now I can't get a doctors appointment if I begged, borrowed or stole one. So if anyone knows any witch doctors let me know " I had heat spots once. Dr gave me two weeks off, told me i had measles. Yeah I'm just gona keep wearing my tinfoil hat i think... | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill." What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? " Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. | |||
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"I had a doctor once tell me to stop checking the internet for medical advice. Then I asked him a question (a pretty basic one as well) and guess where he looked for the answer? Unreal. A mouse with red cross tattooed on it's back would be more help.Yup, I had similar. The same doctor also gave me penicillin despite telling him twice I was allergic and it coming up on his computer that I was also allergic. Can't question any medical professional or scientist on here though, you'll be labelled a tin foil hat wearer. It's a moot point though because now I can't get a doctors appointment if I begged, borrowed or stole one. So if anyone knows any witch doctors let me know " Waste of time in here. Its like a religion now for some people. Its consumed them so much | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? " I keep hearing of doctors being sued for damages for the vax because they didn't inform the patient of risks etc... So much going on right now in the world. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well." Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? " You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well." Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? " You mean you had 'the cold' three times. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well." ...and for the massive majority, it's about as severe as the common cold with almost the exact same symptoms. I've had worse colds to be honest. People are really not willing to let go of the "covid is gonna kill us all" narrative are they? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? " I'm glad you're OK. But Covid is not flu or the common cold. Look up data for Covid morbidity/death rate if you want. Or don't. do wht you like. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? I'm glad you're OK. But Covid is not flu or the common cold. Look up data for Covid morbidity/death rate if you want. Or don't. do wht you like." Sigh. That old line again. I dont care what those figures tell me because they dont apply to me, ie early 40s fit and healthy. Im not calling it a flu or a cold or anything else you want to grab onto. Whatever it is, it is of next to do risk to me whatsoever so why on earth would i go getting a vaccine against it? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? I'm glad you're OK. But Covid is not flu or the common cold. Look up data for Covid morbidity/death rate if you want. Or don't. do wht you like. Sigh. That old line again. I dont care what those figures tell me because they dont apply to me, ie early 40s fit and healthy. Im not calling it a flu or a cold or anything else you want to grab onto. Whatever it is, it is of next to do risk to me whatsoever so why on earth would i go getting a vaccine against it? " You don't want to & you're not going to. And you're fine. That's great. Not sure how many times I can say be well. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? I'm glad you're OK. But Covid is not flu or the common cold. Look up data for Covid morbidity/death rate if you want. Or don't. do wht you like. Sigh. That old line again. I dont care what those figures tell me because they dont apply to me, ie early 40s fit and healthy. Im not calling it a flu or a cold or anything else you want to grab onto. Whatever it is, it is of next to do risk to me whatsoever so why on earth would i go getting a vaccine against it? You don't want to & you're not going to. And you're fine. That's great. Not sure how many times I can say be well." Nevermind your smarmy 'be well' nonsense. You showed your true colours with your other flippant remarks, which have no relevance to me at all. Youre just another covid addict who can't accept some people dont think exactly like you do so you roll out the smartass comments trying to appear clever. Youre anything but pal. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well. Well ive had it about 3 times in the last 3 years and that's exactly what it was like. Or do you know my own experiences better than i do? I'm glad you're OK. But Covid is not flu or the common cold. Look up data for Covid morbidity/death rate if you want. Or don't. do wht you like. Sigh. That old line again. I dont care what those figures tell me because they dont apply to me, ie early 40s fit and healthy. Im not calling it a flu or a cold or anything else you want to grab onto. Whatever it is, it is of next to do risk to me whatsoever so why on earth would i go getting a vaccine against it? You don't want to & you're not going to. And you're fine. That's great. Not sure how many times I can say be well. Nevermind your smarmy 'be well' nonsense. You showed your true colours with your other flippant remarks, which have no relevance to me at all. Youre just another covid addict who can't accept some people dont think exactly like you do so you roll out the smartass comments trying to appear clever. Youre anything but pal. " I never claimed to be clever. It's why I go to a witch doctor, like I said above. For the final time, be well. This is never gonna end otherwise... | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well....and for the massive majority, it's about as severe as the common cold with almost the exact same symptoms. I've had worse colds to be honest. People are really not willing to let go of the "covid is gonna kill us all" narrative are they?" I think most people are more than happy to let go of the "COVID is gonna kill us all". Not that I actually remember anybody actually saying that. However what most people who know anything about virology are not prepared to accept is misleading statements that suggest or actually say that COVID was just a mild does of flu or the common cold, because it wasn't. COVID is not, and never was a cold or flu virus. For some people the symptoms of COVID were similar to a does of the flu, for some it was more similar to a cold (which medically is not the same thing as flu), for some it had no symptoms at all and for others it was far worse than a cold or flu and led to their deaths in far higher numbers than a cold or flu. And the reason why vacancies are not being pushed as hard now as it was before is because, like all viruses, COVID has evolved and, as all viruses tend to after they've established themselves, it's evolved into a less symptomatic strain while still being equally or more contagious. After all, there's no benefit to a virus in killing you; it just wants to grow in you, reproduce, move on and then come back again at some point in the future, if it can. | |||
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"None of the vaccines was ever tested to stop or prevent the spread or contraction of covid from the mouths of the makers " Do tell, how would you undertake such a study? | |||
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"None of the vaccines was ever tested to stop or prevent the spread or contraction of covid from the mouths of the makers Do tell, how would you undertake such a study?" I don't think I've been kissing any of the vaccine makers so I doubt I'll be contracting anything from their mouths Or do you think there's a full stop, colon or semicolon missing somewhere? | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well....and for the massive majority, it's about as severe as the common cold with almost the exact same symptoms. I've had worse colds to be honest. People are really not willing to let go of the "covid is gonna kill us all" narrative are they? I think most people are more than happy to let go of the "COVID is gonna kill us all". Not that I actually remember anybody actually saying that. However what most people who know anything about virology are not prepared to accept is misleading statements that suggest or actually say that COVID was just a mild does of flu or the common cold, because it wasn't. COVID is not, and never was a cold or flu virus. For some people the symptoms of COVID were similar to a does of the flu, for some it was more similar to a cold (which medically is not the same thing as flu), for some it had no symptoms at all and for others it was far worse than a cold or flu and led to their deaths in far higher numbers than a cold or flu. And the reason why vacancies are not being pushed as hard now as it was before is because, like all viruses, COVID has evolved and, as all viruses tend to after they've established themselves, it's evolved into a less symptomatic strain while still being equally or more contagious. After all, there's no benefit to a virus in killing you; it just wants to grow in you, reproduce, move on and then come back again at some point in the future, if it can. " If you want to get technical, the cover all term "cold", actually contains many different types of viruses, including coronaviruses. It's my belief that covid will eventually be relegated to this status too as it becomes less severe. It still doesn't change the fact that for the majority of people, it's nothing more severe than than a cold, regardless of vaccine status. It seems to be the narrative that unless your take on all this is all doom and gloom about how covid has ruined your life and health, your opinion is just waved off by most people. Personally in my circle, lockdown measures and the vaccine has ruined more people's health and life than the actual virus. I've had people lose their jobs, houses and almost their lives due to businesses going under and a very good friend almost died from a clot after his booster, he still isn't right and likely wont be for a while. Compared to not one hospital admission via covid and people generally getting over it in days. Like I say though, people don't want to accept that take on covid. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . Absolutely not. I only ever got one to allow me get on a plane. Wont be going near another one if those jabs again I'm with you. You can't never trust those experts & doctors. Me, I go to the witch doctor whenever I feel ill. What have experts and doctors got to do with it? I dont need the vaccine for this thing, its of no consequence to me any more than a common cold. So why on earth would i get it? Based on what you just wrote, I rather doubt your medical expertise. Be well. Do you have anything concrete to add, or do your contributions extend only to banal cringeworthy quips? You likened Covid to the common cold. Says it all really. Again, be well....and for the massive majority, it's about as severe as the common cold with almost the exact same symptoms. I've had worse colds to be honest. People are really not willing to let go of the "covid is gonna kill us all" narrative are they? I think most people are more than happy to let go of the "COVID is gonna kill us all". Not that I actually remember anybody actually saying that. However what most people who know anything about virology are not prepared to accept is misleading statements that suggest or actually say that COVID was just a mild does of flu or the common cold, because it wasn't. COVID is not, and never was a cold or flu virus. For some people the symptoms of COVID were similar to a does of the flu, for some it was more similar to a cold (which medically is not the same thing as flu), for some it had no symptoms at all and for others it was far worse than a cold or flu and led to their deaths in far higher numbers than a cold or flu. And the reason why vacancies are not being pushed as hard now as it was before is because, like all viruses, COVID has evolved and, as all viruses tend to after they've established themselves, it's evolved into a less symptomatic strain while still being equally or more contagious. After all, there's no benefit to a virus in killing you; it just wants to grow in you, reproduce, move on and then come back again at some point in the future, if it can. If you want to get technical, the cover all term "cold", actually contains many different types of viruses, including coronaviruses. It's my belief that covid will eventually be relegated to this status too as it becomes less severe. It still doesn't change the fact that for the majority of people, it's nothing more severe than than a cold, regardless of vaccine status. It seems to be the narrative that unless your take on all this is all doom and gloom about how covid has ruined your life and health, your opinion is just waved off by most people. Personally in my circle, lockdown measures and the vaccine has ruined more people's health and life than the actual virus. I've had people lose their jobs, houses and almost their lives due to businesses going under and a very good friend almost died from a clot after his booster, he still isn't right and likely wont be for a while. Compared to not one hospital admission via covid and people generally getting over it in days. Like I say though, people don't want to accept that take on covid." That's your experience and who am I to say it's not valid. However, like my own experience, it's anecdotal. My own experience of COVID amongst my immediate circle is; 4 deaths, 5 seriously ill and numerous none seriously ill. I myself had COVID at least once (last November - quite ill) and possibly twice (March 2020 - everyone in the ski chalet I was in got ill after getting back, two hospitalised, diagnosed COVID. I was mildly ill). I accept your points about people losing their jobs and other adverse effects of lockdown. If you green button me and check back on posts I made around the summer of 2020 you'll find posts where I raised, back then, the question of whether the solution may end up being more harmful than the problem. In my opinion lockdown should probably only ever have been used fairly briefly at the start of the pandemic to "flatten the curve" and not used as the main solution lasting, on and off, for two years. But I don't know that as a fact. I also believe that, for most people, COVID was extremely unlikely to kill, make them seriously ill or even ill at all. However it doesn't have to be a very high percentage of a population of 70,000,000 for that to lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths and serious illnesses. With regard to the vaccine. I was in no rush to get it but neither was I opposed to having it. I was quite happy to let those that were genuinely at more risk than myself from COVID have it before me and also those that felt more worried about getting COVID than I, even if actually at no more risk than myself, have it before me. I never felt particularly at risk of dying or getting seriously ill from COVID, however I'd rather not have COVID than have it. For this reason, whilst I understood that the vaccine, as with all medical interventions, could have side effects, I felt even less worried about getting serious side effects from the vaccine than I did about dying or getting seriously ill from COVID, I had the first vaccine and booster. I'm in no rush to have another unless the risk from COVID increases substantially. Whilst I never believed that "we're all going to die" from COVID, as some people on here have claimed those that don't think it was nothing thought or said, I also don't think it was nothing or just a bad case of a cold or flu. For many it was much worse than a cold or the flu. So when you say "people don't want to accept that take on COVID" the reason why is that your "take" on COVID is based on your anecdotal experience whilst others "take" on COVID is based on their anecdotal experience. If you want people not to dismiss your "take" on COVID maybe you shouldn't seem quite so dismissive of theirs. | |||
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"Where was I dismissive of anyone's experience? Please check and let me know. I think you'll struggle to find it. If I was ill wholeheartedly apologise. I feel for anyone who suffered with covid or through lockdown related issues. I personally feel very lucky that my family and friends all breezed through it. I won't pretend however that the massive majority don't just get the symptoms of your average cold. I've had covid 3 times now that I know of. First two times symptoms were exactly the same. Once before my jabs and once after. The third time I just felt under the weather and only tested because someone close tested positive and I was supposed to be at a family get together with vulnerable people." I accept that you didn't mean to come across as dismissive. We can all be a little over sensitive on this subject at times and in this case maybe I was. | |||
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"Remember the people who didn't take it in the first place were treated like second class citizens, The anti vac , so if you don't take the booster are you threat to the general public and should be locked out of bars etc ? What is the difference ?" The difference is people's understanding of both the vaccine and covib, and COVID itself. At the time the first COVID vaccines became available people were more scared of the virus than they are now and probably than was merited. The reality was was that, for most people, COVID was unlikely to kill them or make them seriously ill. That's not to say that it could not be serious for many, only that for most (over 90%) it probably wasn't going to be. Also, at the time the first vaccines came out, there was a general belief that the vaccine would stop the vaccinated getting COVID so consequently, by less people being invected, help stop or decrease the spread. This provided the moral bases for people to argue that, if you weren't vaccinated, you were putting other people at risk not just yourself. What most people believe now is that COVID is not as serious for most people as they believed it was back then. This is partly because it never was as serious for most people as people believed it was and also the current strains are not as serious anyway as the original strains were. Also mosr people no longer believe that being vaccinated stops you getting COVID and only believe that getting vaccinated mainly helps reduce the severity of COVID. As it is now believed by most that COVID is not as serious as it once was or as serious as they once believed, and there is less communal benefit to being vaccinated than they once believed, the moral bases of the argument that, by not being vaccinated you were putting others at risk too, is less. I think these are the differences between now and then. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . " My Dad had the first two. He did then have myocarditis, liver failure and died horribly. Probably just a coincidence though. | |||
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"Just wondering are all the vaccinated people still getting their boosters ? My father had the first 3 jabs when they came out first and was advised then by his doctor to not get anymore . My Dad had the first two. He did then have myocarditis, liver failure and died horribly. Probably just a coincidence though." I'm so sorry xx | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now " The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. " but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that " The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. " When was the last time the creaking behemoth that is the nhs not overloaded.? I'm sick sick sick and tired of using our appalling health service crow barred into arguments of why we should and shouldn't be doing things. We shouldn't be driving, drinking drugging, eating, breathing poisoned air, drinking poisoned water and that causes much greater impact | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. Hogwash.. booster a simply not required more broadly hence why they are not recommendeding them for the general population." You say 'hogwash' but state an opinion, without backing it up with evidence. It suggests that you're antivax, when one could simply state that, if the case, to remove the need for any hogwash type slurs. | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. Hogwash.. booster a simply not required more broadly hence why they are not recommendeding them for the general population. You say 'hogwash' but state an opinion, without backing it up with evidence. It suggests that you're antivax, when one could simply state that, if the case, to remove the need for any hogwash type slurs. " I have posted study after study countering half the rubbish you spout and you just choose not to read them and not reply so why waste my time? Why don't you hold your self to your own standard and if its not "hogwash" show me where public health England, the government or any other UK health body are currently recommending vaccination of groups that are not at risk??? Funny how you also took offence at the use of hogwash but you are happy to throw out antivax "slurs" at anyone that is even remotely critical.. Nothing worse then a hypocrit. | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. Hogwash.. booster a simply not required more broadly hence why they are not recommendeding them for the general population. You say 'hogwash' but state an opinion, without backing it up with evidence. It suggests that you're antivax, when one could simply state that, if the case, to remove the need for any hogwash type slurs. I have posted study after study countering half the rubbish you spout and you just choose not to read them and not reply so why waste my time? Why don't you hold your self to your own standard and if its not "hogwash" show me where public health England, the government or any other UK health body are currently recommending vaccination of groups that are not at risk??? Funny how you also took offence at the use of hogwash but you are happy to throw out antivax "slurs" at anyone that is even remotely critical.. Nothing worse then a hypocrit." The criticism of the UK policy is based around its limited scope of what it's trying to achieve. It doesn't include the impacts from Long COVID, for example, which imposes extensive burdens on people and affects the economy as well as people's health and wellbeing. The USA, by comparison, recommends boosters for a broader swathe of the population. Here, it's over 75s and those with compromised immune systems and other health issues. In many ways there are millions left to the whims of what the market decides. Pharmadoctor can be used for the Novavax vaccine, from £50 - almost half the cost of the Boots one. But it depends on how many people are booked for it, as it has a short storage time, once opened - fewer people booked and the price increases, to £90, for example when just 2 people get it. Wells et. al show the benefits of immunising over 50s and young children. Certainly, if the UK factored the costs of Long COVID, we'd have had a more reasonable measurement of what the infection causes and how many more people could be helped, if PHE broadened its scope for vaccine eligibility. Leaving it to the new privately available vaccines to potentially help, is messy and fraught with pitfalls. Surprisingly, the broader USA model is supportive of the greater impacts of the disease. | |||
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"Anyone out there still getting boosted ? They seem to have stopped pushing boosters here in Ireland now The spring boosters are now being given here in the UK . Eligibility isn't as widespread as for earlier campaigns here or compared with countries like the USA. They can also be purchased privately. but why have they stopped campaigning it if covid is still around ? And really you can buy them privately? Are you serious ? Never heard of that The government are running with greater priority on the general election and their potential obliteration, than any real interest in the wellbeing of the people, IMO. Health isn't a serious priority, they pay lip service instead, hence reduced budgets, compared with what they could have. The vaccine manufacturers had pushed for private availability, running towards £100 . Even the USA is offering the boosters more broadly than the UK this season. COVID is still with us and sustaining immunity is beneficial, when our NHS is overloaded. Hogwash.. booster a simply not required more broadly hence why they are not recommendeding them for the general population. You say 'hogwash' but state an opinion, without backing it up with evidence. It suggests that you're antivax, when one could simply state that, if the case, to remove the need for any hogwash type slurs. I have posted study after study countering half the rubbish you spout and you just choose not to read them and not reply so why waste my time? Why don't you hold your self to your own standard and if its not "hogwash" show me where public health England, the government or any other UK health body are currently recommending vaccination of groups that are not at risk??? Funny how you also took offence at the use of hogwash but you are happy to throw out antivax "slurs" at anyone that is even remotely critical.. Nothing worse then a hypocrit. The criticism of the UK policy is based around its limited scope of what it's trying to achieve. It doesn't include the impacts from Long COVID, for example, which imposes extensive burdens on people and affects the economy as well as people's health and wellbeing. The USA, by comparison, recommends boosters for a broader swathe of the population. Here, it's over 75s and those with compromised immune systems and other health issues. In many ways there are millions left to the whims of what the market decides. Pharmadoctor can be used for the Novavax vaccine, from £50 - almost half the cost of the Boots one. But it depends on how many people are booked for it, as it has a short storage time, once opened - fewer people booked and the price increases, to £90, for example when just 2 people get it. Wells et. al show the benefits of immunising over 50s and young children. Certainly, if the UK factored the costs of Long COVID, we'd have had a more reasonable measurement of what the infection causes and how many more people could be helped, if PHE broadened its scope for vaccine eligibility. Leaving it to the new privately available vaccines to potentially help, is messy and fraught with pitfalls. Surprisingly, the broader USA model is supportive of the greater impacts of the disease. " I can't find the study you are referring too. If it shows benefits for over 50s... that hard ly supports that the general population does it? | |||
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"Had none of these jabs and im glad i haven't, i know alot of people who and have never felt the same since doing so. The way the government literally bullied people into having it was and still is despicable. If something cannot be questioned without you being branded a conspiracy theorist or anti vaxxer then you know there is something not right." The bullying can't have been that bad if you didn't end of getting a cvid jab. | |||
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"Had none of these jabs and im glad i haven't, i know alot of people who and have never felt the same since doing so. The way the government literally bullied people into having it was and still is despicable. If something cannot be questioned without you being branded a conspiracy theorist or anti vaxxer then you know there is something not right. The bullying can't have been that bad if you didn't end of getting a cvid jab." For some people, the guilt tripping and the dont be selfish bullcrap that the government was spouting was too much, i didnt care what they said i know my own mind and that was made up. There are alot of people out there now wishing they hadn't had it just so they could go on holiday.... | |||
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"Had none of these jabs and im glad i haven't, i know alot of people who and have never felt the same since doing so. The way the government literally bullied people into having it was and still is despicable. If something cannot be questioned without you being branded a conspiracy theorist or anti vaxxer then you know there is something not right. The bullying can't have been that bad if you didn't end of getting a cvid jab." Excellent logic. | |||
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"For some people, the guilt tripping and the dont be selfish bullcrap that the government was spouting was too much, i didnt care what they said i know my own mind and that was made up. There are alot of people out there now wishing they hadn't had it just so they could go on holiday.... I pretty much begged my wife not too have it, 18 months later I'm now bringing my 2 boys up on my own . Heart attack , natural causes the coroner alledges, I have my doubts and nothing or nobody will ever change my mind. 12 months earlier she had her gall bladder removed which obviously was under a general anaesthetic, no problem with her heart then , if there was the op wouldn't have gone ahead. " That is so so sad to hear, that must have been very difficult. | |||
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"For some people, the guilt tripping and the dont be selfish bullcrap that the government was spouting was too much, i didnt care what they said i know my own mind and that was made up. There are alot of people out there now wishing they hadn't had it just so they could go on holiday.... I had three jabs… out of the blue I had a stroke about 6 weeks ago, despite being relatively fit and healthy, never smoked and very occasional drinker I pretty much begged my wife not too have it, 18 months later I'm now bringing my 2 boys up on my own . Heart attack , natural causes the coroner alledges, I have my doubts and nothing or nobody will ever change my mind. 12 months earlier she had her gall bladder removed which obviously was under a general anaesthetic, no problem with her heart then , if there was the op wouldn't have gone ahead. That is so so sad to hear, that must have been very difficult." | |||
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"Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions " | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions " Millions have been waking up well, thanks to them | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions " Surprised you haven't mentioned sheeple . Allow (vulnerable, old and patient-facing) people to make informed decisions for themselves without derogatory undertones. The situation is different now, the pandemic is no more. | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions " 100% More and more people have woken up and are getting vaccinated | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions 100% More and more people have woken up and are getting vaccinated " You reckon? Most people I know who never had it have continued to not bother Those who initiated who got it and aren't in the vulnerable range no longer get it And I know some who qualify (age wise) who aren't bothering with the boosters anymore It's all anecdotal anyway | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions 100% More and more people have woken up and are getting vaccinated " Genuine question as that's far from what I see and hear. Where do you get your facts that show vax booster numbers. I used to be able to find them on the give website but they don't have anything showing number boosted this year compared to last year. | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions 100% More and more people have woken up and are getting vaccinated You reckon? Most people I know who never had it have continued to not bother Those who initiated who got it and aren't in the vulnerable range no longer get it And I know some who qualify (age wise) who aren't bothering with the boosters anymore It's all anecdotal anyway " The anecdotal stuff comes from individuals, often with some cross to bear. The substantial non-anecdotal volume, comprised of heavyweight quantitive analyses, are pretty solid, in support of the vaccines. There's progress even with a combined Covid and Flu vaccine option. Could be very effective during the autumn/winter booster season. | |||
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"??????? ??????? ??????? Never too late to wake up!! Ffs Still having them. They've been a godsend to millions 100% More and more people have woken up and are getting vaccinated You reckon? Most people I know who never had it have continued to not bother Those who initiated who got it and aren't in the vulnerable range no longer get it And I know some who qualify (age wise) who aren't bothering with the boosters anymore It's all anecdotal anyway The anecdotal stuff comes from individuals, often with some cross to bear. The substantial non-anecdotal volume, comprised of heavyweight quantitive analyses, are pretty solid, in support of the vaccines. There's progress even with a combined Covid and Flu vaccine option. Could be very effective during the autumn/winter booster season. " Could you direct me to the heavyweight quantitative analysis that shows covid booster jabs have increased compared to last year? | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now " .the people not giving their kids the mmr are causing a serious issue. Measles is on a dangerous rise | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now " They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. And again.. Could you direct me to the official stats that say there are less covid boosters being delivered now than 12 months ago? " Cannot say I've looked. My "they are down" stems from when they were offered to all Vs now. | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. And again.. Could you direct me to the official stats that say there are less covid boosters being delivered now than 12 months ago? Cannot say I've looked. My "they are down" stems from when they were offered to all Vs now. " As I thought. The "real numbers" must be out there somewhere. It's just there are some in this thread who think more are having boosters and some who think less are having boosters. So would be good if there were some accurate source of information. Not that it really matters so long as people are making their own informed decisions. | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. And again.. Could you direct me to the official stats that say there are less covid boosters being delivered now than 12 months ago? Cannot say I've looked. My "they are down" stems from when they were offered to all Vs now. As I thought. The "real numbers" must be out there somewhere. It's just there are some in this thread who think more are having boosters and some who think less are having boosters. So would be good if there were some accurate source of information. Not that it really matters so long as people are making their own informed decisions. " Looking at the weekly figures (https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/), the number of boosters given on the week if 24th April was almost 1.2 million. The highest figure from last years "spring boosters" was around 800,000. Cal | |||
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"Seems like both vaccinated an unvaccinated call then selves awaken lol" Indeed they are, everyone has a choice, and that doesn't mean antivax or provax for all | |||
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"Seems like both vaccinated an unvaccinated call then selves awaken lol Indeed they are, everyone has a choice, and that doesn't mean antivax or provax for all" Absolutely! The extremist view holders are the ones who need to WAKE UP. Informed decision making please! | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. And again.. Could you direct me to the official stats that say there are less covid boosters being delivered now than 12 months ago? Cannot say I've looked. My "they are down" stems from when they were offered to all Vs now. As I thought. The "real numbers" must be out there somewhere. It's just there are some in this thread who think more are having boosters and some who think less are having boosters. So would be good if there were some accurate source of information. Not that it really matters so long as people are making their own informed decisions. Looking at the weekly figures (https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/), the number of boosters given on the week if 24th April was almost 1.2 million. The highest figure from last years "spring boosters" was around 800,000. Cal" Thanks Cal, seems like an informed debate my breakout, pass it on it might be catching | |||
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"Id say more people have woken up and not bothered, hence why all vax numbers are down flu mmr ect the trust has gone with a lot now They are down because they are not offered to healthy people . The criteria: vulnerable, elderly, patient-facing. And again.. Could you direct me to the official stats that say there are less covid boosters being delivered now than 12 months ago? Cannot say I've looked. My "they are down" stems from when they were offered to all Vs now. " This is exactly what I was told in the covid booster clinic. | |||
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"Never had the first jab or the? What number are we at now? Got covid once, well the test said so!!! Felt nothing. If people want too take it knock yourself out, if you don't want it your choice should be respected too. Now too a more seious issue, nobody wants too fuck!!! Maybe instead of being on a swingers site reading about covid and not fucking, we should go on a covid site and read about sex and find fun there ??????" Well i m the same ...never had any..so not sure what to recommend to peoplw.. And yes...we should fuck more... There is people that last year got more times vaccinated then fucked | |||
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"Never had the first jab or the? What number are we at now? Got covid once, well the test said so!!! Felt nothing. If people want too take it knock yourself out, if you don't want it your choice should be respected too. Now too a more seious issue, nobody wants too fuck!!! Maybe instead of being on a swingers site reading about covid and not fucking, we should go on a covid site and read about sex and find fun there ?????? Well i m the same ...never had any..so not sure what to recommend to peoplw.. And yes...we should fuck more... There is people that last year got more times vaccinated then fucked " For a lot of the single guys on here that number would be any number greater than 0 LOL | |||
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