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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this " Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support?? | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support??" It could be but no one knows what it is yet I’m sure we will get answers soon | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support?? It could be but no one knows what it is yet I’m sure we will get answers soon" 
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this " It's not new and has been happening from time to time but only brought to light since people have been trying to connect every death to either covid or the vaccine  | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." Is that your own correlation? We need good, verifiable evidence. Otherwise, it's raking up what is obviously a very tragic phenomenon, trying to shoe-horn such tragedy into something else, trying to prove a point. Out of the myriad of human conditions, it could be a nonstop exercise, raising this, that or any other of them, which isn't fruitful. | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." What experimental vaccine??? | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. " Have you noticed that the vast majority of professional athletes aren't falling over with heart attacks? | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. Have you noticed that the vast majority of professional athletes aren't falling over with heart attacks?" and the vast majority of them have had their vaccines too xx | |||
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"Regardless of anything it does seem more common to me now to hear of children having heart attacks. When I was at school I never heard of any, and there has been quite a few children dying of heart attacks in schools local to me in the last few years, and also in my children's school." I'm not sure if there are more, or if with the way life is now... social media means you hear about it more xx | |||
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"Have you noticed that the vast majority of professional athletes aren't falling over with heart attacks?" Nobody ever noticed things like that because it isn’t exciting. I’m awaiting graphs and evidence from a source we can trust. | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. " Sausage by name.... | |||
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"A friends brother died of that, late 20's he was. No reason whatsoever for his death. Many years before covid. " Not so much died of it, but you know what I mean. | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved."  Ah, Fab never disappoints! | |||
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"I’ve lost two friends to it. One quietly at home, one whilst his partner was giving birth to his son. There’s a fantastic charity called CRY - cardiac risk in the young - which offers ECG screenings to under 25s to try and pick up on potential problems. Worth taking your kids along to. And yes, there’s a higher than usual incidence. Nobody has yet got to looking at causation though. " Thank you for sharing about that charity. | |||
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"Conspiracy theorists would try and link slipping on banana skins on this if they could. It's rather sad how they clutch on every conspiracy theory without even looking into research or facts. "But the facts and research say otherwise, so there must be a cover up!" - Every single time." | |||
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"Conspiracy theorists would try and link slipping on banana skins on this if they could. It's rather sad how they clutch on every conspiracy theory without even looking into research or facts. "But the facts and research say otherwise, so there must be a cover up!" - Every single time." What I find sad is those who are so wedded to their dogma that they are unable to accept there could be unexpected outcomes when you do something to 50 million people. That anything that doesn't suit their narrative is dismissed out of hand with a superior waft and generally followed by something insulting. It does not seem unreasonable to me that if you inject 50 million people with something, that you're going to see some outlier events. Let's take the blood clotting and AZ vaccine. They were not expected events. It was then removed for some demographics. There was no evidence of that situation in testing or trials prior to it being rolled out. And yet.... It happened. So for me... Its not impossible that there might be some other unexpected events lurking around out there. What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. | |||
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"Have you noticed that the vast majority of professional athletes aren't falling over with heart attacks? Nobody ever noticed things like that because it isn’t exciting. I’m awaiting graphs and evidence from a source we can trust. " . For what reason ? Is anything you see as evidence on a graph going to change the way you live ? Pointless nonsense to me | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." Covid has been proven to have caused long term heart damage even in health people in their twenties. If some has had the vaccine and has a heart attack in their 20s it's due to the vaccine. If someone who hasn't had the vaccine has a heart attack it's not mentioned...  | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. " I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal " Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible " Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks.  | |||
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"These sort of threads are frankly dangerous. Two years in and the same old bollox is being spouted. " Its dangerous to question why deaths are excessive and a huge increase over previous years? Ok let's just let it go then | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks. ""If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin.".. Exactly, which is why it is surprising that some on here are reluctant to accept that when you give 50m people medication, that there may be complications. If it happens with aspirin, why would it not with a vaccine.? | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks.
"If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin."..
Exactly, which is why it is surprising that some on here are reluctant to accept that when you give 50m people medication, that there may be complications. If it happens with aspirin, why would it not with a vaccine.? "Who has denied that there have been complications? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Just the denial of the grossly inflated numbers and conspiracy peddling. | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved. Covid has been proven to have caused long term heart damage even in health people in their twenties. If some has had the vaccine and has a heart attack in their 20s it's due to the vaccine. If someone who hasn't had the vaccine has a heart attack it's not mentioned... "Proven by whom? I am quite curious to see who has proven this. Amazing how it's already been decided that it's caused "long term heart damage" when the vaccinations started only just over a year ago | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved. Covid has been proven to have caused long term heart damage even in health people in their twenties. If some has had the vaccine and has a heart attack in their 20s it's due to the vaccine. If someone who hasn't had the vaccine has a heart attack it's not mentioned...
Proven by whom? I am quite curious to see who has proven this.
Amazing how it's already been decided that it's caused "long term heart damage" when the vaccinations started only just over a year ago "Never mind I'll put my pitch fork down, I misread this and thought you meant the vaccine  | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved. Covid has been proven to have caused long term heart damage even in health people in their twenties. If some has had the vaccine and has a heart attack in their 20s it's due to the vaccine. If someone who hasn't had the vaccine has a heart attack it's not mentioned...
Proven by whom? I am quite curious to see who has proven this.
Amazing how it's already been decided that it's caused "long term heart damage" when the vaccinations started only just over a year ago
Never mind I'll put my pitch fork down, I misread this and thought you meant the vaccine "Haha not everyone on fab is a gullible conspiracy theorist  | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks.
"If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin."..
Exactly, which is why it is surprising that some on here are reluctant to accept that when you give 50m people medication, that there may be complications. If it happens with aspirin, why would it not with a vaccine.? "We had a giggle at work discussing some of these theories regarding culling the world population. We would need so many people to be involved as once the elderly, middle aged or young start popping their cloggs, questions may be asked. GPS, hospital staff, community nursing, funeral directors would all need their concerns answered or...they would need to be in on the act and then it wouldn't be a conspiracy any more, just a normal population cull with everyone involved apart from the poor buggers being disposed of. Maybe easier to dispense a contraceptive disguised as regular muscle building, sexual attraction developer, health giving tablet totally guaranteed to attract young ladies or men, whoever takes your fancy. Somehow, don't think it's a goer. | |||
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"These sort of threads are frankly dangerous. Two years in and the same old bollox is being spouted. Its dangerous to question why deaths are excessive and a huge increase over previous years? Ok let's just let it go then " But they aren’t | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks.
"If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin."..
Exactly, which is why it is surprising that some on here are reluctant to accept that when you give 50m people medication, that there may be complications. If it happens with aspirin, why would it not with a vaccine.?
We had a giggle at work discussing some of these theories regarding culling the world population.
We would need so many people to be involved as once the elderly, middle aged or young start popping their cloggs, questions may be asked.
GPS, hospital staff, community nursing, funeral directors would all need their concerns answered or...they would need to be in on the act and then it wouldn't be a conspiracy any more, just a normal population cull with everyone involved apart from the poor buggers being disposed of.
Maybe easier to dispense a contraceptive disguised as regular muscle building, sexual attraction developer, health giving tablet totally guaranteed to attract young ladies or men, whoever takes your fancy.
Somehow, don't think it's a goer.
"You don't really seem to be responding to my comments. Perhaps to somebody else's.? There's quite a substantial difference between acknowledging (as you have) tha lt all medicines have risk of complications and or side effects, and a conspiracy to depopulate, I'm not sure where you think I've suggested that. | |||
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"These sort of threads are frankly dangerous. Two years in and the same old bollox is being spouted. Its dangerous to question why deaths are excessive and a huge increase over previous years? Ok let's just let it go then But they aren’t "Oh ok. Life insurance companies must be lying then. I will believe you. | |||
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" What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I'm fairly certain that nobody has suggested there have been NO "unexpected events". What is highly disputed though is the claims from some quarters that there are a large percentage of people who were vaccinated having serious reactions, or that the vaccines are being used to reduce the world population, or that everyone who's been vaccinated is now a genetically modified hybrid, etc... Cal Yes. All interventions can have negative effects. No one has denied this. The idea that every bad thing is caused by vaccines or lockdowns, or just wait and see, trillions have died, the statistics are wildly underestimated due to (quote way out of context), the vaccines will bring on Bill Gates communism new world order blah blah... That's tinfoil bullshit spread by fraudsters and lapped up by the gullible Every day in every hospital around this country and every other country many surgical procedures are conducted. Sadly, some will result in 'unexpected events' but this is not a conspiracy to cull the population. If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin. To be fair if you wanted to cull the population you would have to decide would it be predominately elderly who would pop off or just drop sperm counts to affect the other end. Or, probably easier to poke the nuclear hornets nest but sadly those naughty people who want to control us mere mortals may get caught up in the blast or aftermath. Think I'll stick with what I've got at present but thanks for the offer of your new world order but not just now thanks.
"If you are on any form of medication there is always a risk of complications or side effects, take a quick scan through the label next time you buy a pack of paracetamol or aspirin."..
Exactly, which is why it is surprising that some on here are reluctant to accept that when you give 50m people medication, that there may be complications. If it happens with aspirin, why would it not with a vaccine.?
We had a giggle at work discussing some of these theories regarding culling the world population.
We would need so many people to be involved as once the elderly, middle aged or young start popping their cloggs, questions may be asked.
GPS, hospital staff, community nursing, funeral directors would all need their concerns answered or...they would need to be in on the act and then it wouldn't be a conspiracy any more, just a normal population cull with everyone involved apart from the poor buggers being disposed of.
Maybe easier to dispense a contraceptive disguised as regular muscle building, sexual attraction developer, health giving tablet totally guaranteed to attract young ladies or men, whoever takes your fancy.
Somehow, don't think it's a goer.
You don't really seem to be responding to my comments. Perhaps to somebody else's.?
There's quite a substantial difference between acknowledging (as you have) tha lt all medicines have risk of complications and or side effects, and a conspiracy to depopulate, I'm not sure where you think I've suggested that. "Very true. These threads get so long that they or I loose the plot and to be honest I couldn't be bothered trawling back through it all. So, I just respond to the general gist. It's just a bit of a giggle after all...sorry you think I suggested your bit included depopulation, but feel free to take the credit.. | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." A large spike in deaths around the same time that the world has been swept by a pandemic disease which is known to cause heart damage in even young people, affecting a group that were late being offered any protection via vaccine, who largely refused to wear filtration devices that could have minimised their exposure to the disease, and whom many of have suffered multiple episodes of infection and sickness. I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved. | |||
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"Funeral directors draining corpses to embalm have pulled out long blood clots and long white fibrous material filling the artery in a vid. The white fibres are thought to be nerves growing similar to morgellons in America. If you've had the clot my veins Vax take ibuprofen up vitc intake and drink plenty of water during the day" Or possibly, just possibly, this could be yet another problem being caused by the pandemic disease that infects the blood and is known to cause clotting in some cases? | |||
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"Sorry to hear that did he have the swine flu jab? That jab taken by pregnant women lost alot of unborn " Did they? Any evidence? | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, the new name for mysterious unexplained deaths in the medical establishment’s play-pretend reality "I met the family of a 17 year old that died in his sleep, the only thing wrong with him was a bad cold, that was classed as SADS and that was 20 years ago. | |||
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"My cousin's son died from SADS about 30 years ago. It's not a new thing and very sad for the people involved" I've known of two people that this happened to. Decades ago. | |||
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"Conspiracy theorists would try and link slipping on banana skins on this if they could. It's rather sad how they clutch on every conspiracy theory without even looking into research or facts. "But the facts and research say otherwise, so there must be a cover up!" - Every single time. What I find sad is those who are so wedded to their dogma that they are unable to accept there could be unexpected outcomes when you do something to 50 million people. That anything that doesn't suit their narrative is dismissed out of hand with a superior waft and generally followed by something insulting. It does not seem unreasonable to me that if you inject 50 million people with something, that you're going to see some outlier events. Let's take the blood clotting and AZ vaccine. They were not expected events. It was then removed for some demographics. There was no evidence of that situation in testing or trials prior to it being rolled out. And yet.... It happened. So for me... Its not impossible that there might be some other unexpected events lurking around out there. What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. " I don't think it is dismissed out of hand. What is dismissed out of hand is taking gospel from some bloke on the internet that says it is, probably because they've watched some other bloke on the internet saying it on a YT video. There may be a correlation. Or it could be the additives and shit food we eat these days. It could be climate change. Some random on the internet doesn't know for certainly. Most right minded people will wait until peer reviewed scientific studies prove a correlation before spouting untested theories on the internet as THE truth. | |||
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"Conspiracy theorists would try and link slipping on banana skins on this if they could. It's rather sad how they clutch on every conspiracy theory without even looking into research or facts. "But the facts and research say otherwise, so there must be a cover up!" - Every single time. What I find sad is those who are so wedded to their dogma that they are unable to accept there could be unexpected outcomes when you do something to 50 million people. That anything that doesn't suit their narrative is dismissed out of hand with a superior waft and generally followed by something insulting. It does not seem unreasonable to me that if you inject 50 million people with something, that you're going to see some outlier events. Let's take the blood clotting and AZ vaccine. They were not expected events. It was then removed for some demographics. There was no evidence of that situation in testing or trials prior to it being rolled out. And yet.... It happened. So for me... Its not impossible that there might be some other unexpected events lurking around out there. What does seem highly unlikely, is that you can roll out multiple injections to over 50m people and there be no unexpected events. I don't think it is dismissed out of hand. What is dismissed out of hand is taking gospel from some bloke on the internet that says it is, probably because they've watched some other bloke on the internet saying it on a YT video. There may be a correlation. Or it could be the additives and shit food we eat these days. It could be climate change. Some random on the internet doesn't know for certainly. Most right minded people will wait until peer reviewed scientific studies prove a correlation before spouting untested theories on the internet as THE truth. " That for me is one of the significant issues. Because on the one hand "we" take the piss our of dave down the pub, Karen on Favebook, the daily mail, the BBC, sky YouTube, twitter and many other sources.. Because "we" disagree with the story, they aren't from trusted sources..but that would then imply that nobody is acquainted with an expert or spoken to them, or met them in a pub or a neighbour, no article on the BBC, sky, failymail, telegraph etc is accurate or to be trusted, no expert uses Favebook or YouTube or twitter... Which can't be true. So I think there is a good deal of confirmation bias and prejudice thinking driving many of the judgements we see in the fora. | |||
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." Or to look at it another way, a large spike in deaths around the same time millions caught a virus during a pandemic. | |||
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"The European database of adverse drug reactions is listing 45 thousand deaths and 4.4 million injuries. This is getting on for the kind of destruction vioxx caused. Vioxx? Remember that. Merck actually had a hit list of doctors they wanted to stop speaking out about how dangerous the drug was. Back to covid, all this for a vaccine which doesn't even stop you from getting the disease. " But it does lessen the possible effects of the virus | |||
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"The European database of adverse drug reactions is listing 45 thousand deaths and 4.4 million injuries. This is getting on for the kind of destruction vioxx caused. Vioxx? Remember that. Merck actually had a hit list of doctors they wanted to stop speaking out about how dangerous the drug was. Back to covid, all this for a vaccine which doesn't even stop you from getting the disease. " How do you report an injury or death on the database? You report it yourself in fact just reported my own death on there. What has a drug withdrawn nearly 20 years ago by a company that don't make covid vaccines got to with covid and covid vaccines. Private companies not just pharmaceutical company have done all sorts of dodgy things. It's up to governments to stop them | |||
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"The European database of adverse drug reactions is listing 45 thousand deaths and 4.4 million injuries. This is getting on for the kind of destruction vioxx caused. Vioxx? Remember that. Merck actually had a hit list of doctors they wanted to stop speaking out about how dangerous the drug was. Back to covid, all this for a vaccine which doesn't even stop you from getting the disease. But it does lessen the possible effects of the virus "It does seem to lessen the possibility of one important effect of the virus. Death. | |||
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It does seem to lessen the possibility of one important effect of the virus. Death."Yep | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this " my dad was 63 when he passed away of this in 2006 | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY" So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2= | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2=" What comes to mind when I see posts like this is advice given a lot in 2020. Look outside the window. What do you see? I see people in a pub. Laughing. Happy. Everything is normal. It's lovely. Where do you hear all this stuff? The media? The media try to sell you fear. Turn off the media. You won't even know it's there. It'll do you good. Enjoy your life. We only get one. Don't trust the BBC (big bolshy con artists) or MSM (money seeking fraudsters media). You'll be happier for it. Life goes on  | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2= What comes to mind when I see posts like this is advice given a lot in 2020. Look outside the window. What do you see? I see people in a pub. Laughing. Happy. Everything is normal. It's lovely. Where do you hear all this stuff? The media? The media try to sell you fear. Turn off the media. You won't even know it's there. It'll do you good. Enjoy your life. We only get one. Don't trust the BBC (big bolshy con artists) or MSM (money seeking fraudsters media). You'll be happier for it. Life goes on "I donr believe a word uttered by the beeb or msm but ignoring the fact that people who shouldn't be dying are andd no-one is being held accountable is criminal | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2= What comes to mind when I see posts like this is advice given a lot in 2020. Look outside the window. What do you see? I see people in a pub. Laughing. Happy. Everything is normal. It's lovely. Where do you hear all this stuff? The media? The media try to sell you fear. Turn off the media. You won't even know it's there. It'll do you good. Enjoy your life. We only get one. Don't trust the BBC (big bolshy con artists) or MSM (money seeking fraudsters media). You'll be happier for it. Life goes on
I donr believe a word uttered by the beeb or msm but ignoring the fact that people who shouldn't be dying are andd no-one is being held accountable is criminal "No, I'm not talking about reputable organisations who are regulated. I'm talking about the wild west of charlatans who fundraise by creating fear porn. How do you know anyone is dying. Because Big Bolshy Cons tell you so? Gosh. Don't trust everything they tell you. They're raising money for their own nefarious agendas, playing on your naiveté. Look after yourself, and let everyone make their own decisions. Personal risk assessment. That's what we have now. If you believe that the vaccines are dangerous, don't get one. There. Job done. That pub sounds like a good time. Maybe you'd find it more enjoyable than getting yourself worked up about things you can't see | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2=" What's are the differences between now and decades ago? There's one major global difference you've probably not even considered. However, you've already made your mind up about the truth so I won't explain anything. Also you don't have to be an elite athlete to die from SADS. It happened to someone's older brother I know when he was playing football and that was 20 years ago. | |||
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"Not to mention a massive increase in still births but yeah that's just a conspiracy theory too right. No, look at the stats year on year previous to the jab roll out." No, you're right, there have been increases in birth defects and other problems detected in babies recently. Correlated with Covid infection during pregnancy. Gosh. | |||
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"Conspiracy theorists would try and link slipping on banana skins on this if they could. It's rather sad how they clutch on every conspiracy theory without even looking into research or facts. "But the facts and research say otherwise, so there must be a cover up!" - Every single time." What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact? ... About 6 months. | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2= What's are the differences between now and decades ago? There's one major global difference you've probably not even considered. However, you've already made your mind up about the truth so I won't explain anything. Also you don't have to be an elite athlete to die from SADS. It happened to someone's older brother I know when he was playing football and that was 20 years ago." Please enlighten me on the one global difference? | |||
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"More than enough data out there bud. Would have been happy to share if you hadn't made that snark remark. Guess you think what the WEF are doing is just a conspiracy theory too eh? Hmm... Viva lock downs! "Ok. You do you | |||
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" What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact? ... About 6 months." OK, as we're in the Virus forum, let's look at conspiracy theories from the last 2 years. 1. Bill Gates Created the Virus to control the population 2. Bill Gates Created the vaccines to control the population. 3. Bill Gates is using vaccines to plant tracking devices in the population. 4. 5G is transmitting Covid. 5. The Chinese manufactured the virus as a bio-weapon. 6. The US Government commissioned the creation of the virus. 7. Covid doesn't really exist. 8. Covid was created by Big Pharma to sell vaccines. 9. Nobody has died from Covid. 10. The Vaccines causing millions of deaths and injuries. 11. The Vaccines make you magnetic. 12. The Vaccines make you infertile. 13. The Vaccines are created from Foetus' 14. The Vaccines rewrite your DNA making you no longer human. etc... So after circulating for up-to two years, which of these where proven to be true & accurate? Cal | |||
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"5, 6, 10 and 13 have all been proven to be true." Where I haven't seen any evidence, and i don't mean a guy in his underpants on youtube, for any of those being true. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions." Not true unfortunately. Yes a vaccine shot can cause short term period changes but that is to be expected. Periods are part of the body's protective immune system. The opposite is true. Vaccinated pregnant women have less still birth higher birth weights etc. Plus the women have a lower chance of dying of covid too. | |||
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"5, 6, 10 and 13 have all been proven to be true." How can 5 & 6 both be true? | |||
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"5, 6, 10 and 13 have all been proven to be true. How can 5 & 6 both be true? "The secret elite conspire across political lines, not caring about the lies that they tell the public about allegiances they put on for show. All the experts are fooled by this shadow game. Behind closed doors, they evilly conspire to terrify humanity with disease, while hapless clever people find the evidence that the cabal cooked up in the basement of a pizza parlour, cackling evilly. The only people who know this are the truth tellers living in their Mum's shed, shouting on YouTube in crusty crisp powdered pants. | |||
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"Collaboration. Just look into the vile creature that is Anthony Fauci. " Collaboration between US & China?? Interesting concept  | |||
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"Collaboration. Just look into the vile creature that is Anthony Fauci. Collaboration between US & China?? Interesting concept "I explained it above. You know it makes sense | |||
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"Collaboration. Just look into the vile creature that is Anthony Fauci. Collaboration between US & China?? Interesting concept "Weird isn't it. The US and China are the 2 countries in the world that rely on each other the most. Links between the wuhan lab and American pharma are proven Emergent bio tech contaminated 400 million doses and stored them. J and j contaminated 60 million doses. Bill Gates is sad that omicron did a better job at protecting people than the vaccine. Bill Gates does have an over powerful influence on the WHO due to being the second largest funder. The issue we have is there are extremes on both sides. We have the conspiracy tin hatters and the ardent vaccine supporters at each others throats. We all know governments and capitalists lie to us. We all know there are conspiracies everywhere and yet so many are caught up in this distraction arguing amongst each other. There is a much bigger picture that is being missed. Wars that we all knew shouldn't happen went ahead for resource and globalist reasons. We were lied to about weapons of mass destruction. We are being lied to about Ukraine. Weapons are being sent by the ship load and guess what is happening to them. They are being sold to other warring nations. There is mass destruction of property that will have to be rebuilt and guess who will get the contracts. It doesn't matter which country is in occupation. The elite dont care who is in power. Besos paid an effective rate of 0.08 tax in the year he made his greatest fortune. It astounds me that the majority believe our governments and big pharma have our health and happiness in mind. We all know that the biggest contributer to covid deaths was obesity and diabetes yet look at the new government national food strategy. They were advised by their own ministers to act on sugar and salt and have ignored the advice. But never mind. At the next pandemic we will have another vaccine for us to pay for the development and big pharma to reap the rewards. We buy shit we don't need because of conditioning from birth, with money that doesn't exist. We waste 30% of the food we buy because well, eaay come easy go. Everything has gone up apart from yes you guessed it Alcohol. Its no wonder people are angry and at each other. Peace and love to you all. Even the extremists. They need more love than anyone else. | |||
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"We all know governments and capitalists lie to us. We all know there are conspiracies everywhere and yet so many are caught up in this distraction arguing amongst each other. There is a much bigger picture that is being missed." That's the crux of most problems at the end of the day. Folk argue over what overpaid pillock (poloticians/celebrities) said and meanwhile the real powers are carrying on as normal. | |||
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"Neither SADS or SIDS has anything to do with the vaccine. It's been going on for years!! BUT if this "connection" is going to raise awareness then bring it on!" It literally says on the nhs website that the vaccine can cause cardiac issues. It says increased myocarditis and pericarditis. So to say the increased spike in sads cases definitely isn't the vaccine is delusional. | |||
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"Neither SADS or SIDS has anything to do with the vaccine. It's been going on for years!! BUT if this "connection" is going to raise awareness then bring it on!" I admire the fact you can definitively claim there is no link at all. | |||
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" What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact? ... About 6 months. OK, as we're in the Virus forum, let's look at conspiracy theories from the last 2 years. 1. Bill Gates Created the Virus to control the population 2. Bill Gates Created the vaccines to control the population. 3. Bill Gates is using vaccines to plant tracking devices in the population. 4. 5G is transmitting Covid. 5. The Chinese manufactured the virus as a bio-weapon. 6. The US Government commissioned the creation of the virus. 7. Covid doesn't really exist. 8. Covid was created by Big Pharma to sell vaccines. 9. Nobody has died from Covid. 10. The Vaccines causing millions of deaths and injuries. 11. The Vaccines make you magnetic. 12. The Vaccines make you infertile. 13. The Vaccines are created from Foetus' 14. The Vaccines rewrite your DNA making you no longer human. etc... So after circulating for up-to two years, which of these where proven to be true & accurate? Cal " 1,2,5,6,8,10,12 and 14 | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions." Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal" Baaaaaaaaa | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. " There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal ------ Baaaaaaaaa " Oooh, I'm blown away by your intellectual, witty and totally original attempt at an insult. Great banter dude. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal ------ Baaaaaaaaa Oooh, I'm blown away by your intellectual, witty and totally original attempt at an insult. Great banter dude. "Well I thought I'd bring my intellect to your level hahaha | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection." OK so gov freedom of information request showing still births year on year (which were every low) up until the jab roll out when it increased 10 fold are false? Every top tier scientist/ Dr who has ever spoken in a negative way about the jabs has been shunned/ banned from whichever platform they were using isn't a bit weird to you? Nothing significant according to every medical organisation?? This information is all available from them. Its just not publicised ffs | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. OK so gov freedom of information request showing still births year on year (which were every low) up until the jab roll out when it increased 10 fold are false? Every top tier scientist/ Dr who has ever spoken in a negative way about the jabs has been shunned/ banned from whichever platform they were using isn't a bit weird to you? Nothing significant according to every medical organisation?? This information is all available from them. Its just not publicised ffs " Ah yes censorship at its finest | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection." See the thing is, I know a few women who have had their menstrual cycles messed with, now having heavy, painful and different periods, having had either covid or a vaccine. I'm not suggesting that is a national trend but seems enough that it would be registered somewhere though not surprising that it isn't given how women's health is treated generally. But in my own experiences it's not accurate to say its not happening or there is no evidence that its happening. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. See the thing is, I know a few women who have had their menstrual cycles messed with, now having heavy, painful and different periods, having had either covid or a vaccine. I'm not suggesting that is a national trend but seems enough that it would be registered somewhere though not surprising that it isn't given how women's health is treated generally. But in my own experiences it's not accurate to say its not happening or there is no evidence that its happening. " It could be so. But these things are difficult to determine for a number of reasons - the symptom databases exist as a starting point for statistical analysis across a population. Side effects absolutely exist, but the breathless hysterical claims of mass harm are at best ill informed and at worst are misinformation and out and out fraud. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. See the thing is, I know a few women who have had their menstrual cycles messed with, now having heavy, painful and different periods, having had either covid or a vaccine. I'm not suggesting that is a national trend but seems enough that it would be registered somewhere though not surprising that it isn't given how women's health is treated generally. But in my own experiences it's not accurate to say its not happening or there is no evidence that its happening. It could be so. But these things are difficult to determine for a number of reasons - the symptom databases exist as a starting point for statistical analysis across a population. Side effects absolutely exist, but the breathless hysterical claims of mass harm are at best ill informed and at worst are misinformation and out and out fraud." Don't you think that there is space to discuss and investigate.. Somewhere between "there are no problems" on the one side and "breathless hysterical claims"...on the other? | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. See the thing is, I know a few women who have had their menstrual cycles messed with, now having heavy, painful and different periods, having had either covid or a vaccine. I'm not suggesting that is a national trend but seems enough that it would be registered somewhere though not surprising that it isn't given how women's health is treated generally. But in my own experiences it's not accurate to say its not happening or there is no evidence that its happening. It could be so. But these things are difficult to determine for a number of reasons - the symptom databases exist as a starting point for statistical analysis across a population. Side effects absolutely exist, but the breathless hysterical claims of mass harm are at best ill informed and at worst are misinformation and out and out fraud. Don't you think that there is space to discuss and investigate.. Somewhere between "there are no problems" on the one side and "breathless hysterical claims"...on the other? " Yes. That's why the databases exist and it's one of the things epidemiologists do. It's what happened when side effects emerged post roll out - they determined that issues were correlated with the vaccine rather than caused by something else or coincidental. (So if 10 people a year get symptom X, if 11 get it after the vaccine rollout, maybe a coincidence. If 1100 people get it, something is going on and it should be investigated) Unfortunately, fraudsters use these databases to whip up fear and market their particular brand of fear porn. I want to know the truth. And if harm is being caused I want to know (at what rate, what risk factors are known, etc). But I want to know facts, verified by research. | |||
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"Many women have menstrual problems at any stage in their lives. Mine started aged around 36/37 and I had to have a hysterectomy eventually. If I'd had a vaccination just before my problem started someone could have blamed it. I have other family members who had a hysterectomy because of heavy periods, before Covid vaccinations were a thing. " I believe someone on the Moderna trial was struck by lightning. Because they'd had the vaccine, it was reported as an adverse effect (because they do have to report everything, coincidence or not). Similarly in the Pfizer under 5 trial, one participant had a life threatening event - severe burns. Not vaccine related, but it has to be recorded. Epidemiologists work out as best they can what's coincidence, what's real, and what's caused by other things. | |||
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" What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact? ... About 6 months. OK, as we're in the Virus forum, let's look at conspiracy theories from the last 2 years. 1. Bill Gates Created the Virus to control the population 2. Bill Gates Created the vaccines to control the population. 3. Bill Gates is using vaccines to plant tracking devices in the population. 4. 5G is transmitting Covid. 5. The Chinese manufactured the virus as a bio-weapon. 6. The US Government commissioned the creation of the virus. 7. Covid doesn't really exist. 8. Covid was created by Big Pharma to sell vaccines. 9. Nobody has died from Covid. 10. The Vaccines causing millions of deaths and injuries. 11. The Vaccines make you magnetic. 12. The Vaccines make you infertile. 13. The Vaccines are created from Foetus' 14. The Vaccines rewrite your DNA making you no longer human. etc... So after circulating for up-to two years, which of these where proven to be true & accurate? Cal 1,2,5,6,8,10,12 and 14 "OMG, you really fell for it. You do know these non stories are just created to just make the gullible think everything is a crackpot conspiracy theory. You just need to read UN Agenda 2030, look at World Economic Forum, look at the government website to see vaccines still in phase 4 clinical trial, see that before coved the conspiracy theorists said there would be push for mass vaccination to create precedent for a bio security state, digital ID, control of movement and wrecking if the econonomy, loss of jobs, small to medium business and by printing money to create inflation and soaring food and energy prices. Create a cashless transactions which will be centralised cryptographic exchange tied to a unique digital ID. Inflate away middle classes savings, create cost of living crisis and realisation of mortgage and loan debt. State owns you. Energy credits based on CO2 footprints and good behaviour. You will own nothing and be happy. Get ready for it before 2030 | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. See the thing is, I know a few women who have had their menstrual cycles messed with, now having heavy, painful and different periods, having had either covid or a vaccine. I'm not suggesting that is a national trend but seems enough that it would be registered somewhere though not surprising that it isn't given how women's health is treated generally. But in my own experiences it's not accurate to say its not happening or there is no evidence that its happening. It could be so. But these things are difficult to determine for a number of reasons - the symptom databases exist as a starting point for statistical analysis across a population. Side effects absolutely exist, but the breathless hysterical claims of mass harm are at best ill informed and at worst are misinformation and out and out fraud. Don't you think that there is space to discuss and investigate.. Somewhere between "there are no problems" on the one side and "breathless hysterical claims"...on the other? Yes. That's why the databases exist and it's one of the things epidemiologists do. It's what happened when side effects emerged post roll out - they determined that issues were correlated with the vaccine rather than caused by something else or coincidental. (So if 10 people a year get symptom X, if 11 get it after the vaccine rollout, maybe a coincidence. If 1100 people get it, something is going on and it should be investigated) Unfortunately, fraudsters use these databases to whip up fear and market their particular brand of fear porn. I want to know the truth. And if harm is being caused I want to know (at what rate, what risk factors are known, etc). But I want to know facts, verified by research. " Haha and the anti axes are the ones creating fear porn, can't make it up can you | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. OK so gov freedom of information request showing still births year on year (which were every low) up until the jab roll out when it increased 10 fold are false? Every top tier scientist/ Dr who has ever spoken in a negative way about the jabs has been shunned/ banned from whichever platform they were using isn't a bit weird to you? Nothing significant according to every medical organisation?? This information is all available from them. Its just not publicised ffs Covid infection during pregnancy is correlated with increased stillbirth. Hope this helps" First time in history a flu has caused still births, hmmmm. Plus the so called spike protein responsible for convid toxicity is the active part of the vaccine hmmmmm | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Nope, there has been no increase of infertility. There have also been no increase in the number of miscarriages. Some women see "temporary" changes in their periods, especially if they receive both doses within the same cycle. There is no evidence of any significant lasting changes. Cal Oh come on. Try saying that to my daughter who is really suffering after having the jab. Absolutely there is evidence. There is nothing "significant", according to every medical organisation. Obviously if your daughter is having issues that is significant to her, but there is nothing significant on a national or global level. Interestingly there are also similar reports of menstrual changes from ladies after a covid infection. OK so gov freedom of information request showing still births year on year (which were every low) up until the jab roll out when it increased 10 fold are false? Every top tier scientist/ Dr who has ever spoken in a negative way about the jabs has been shunned/ banned from whichever platform they were using isn't a bit weird to you? Nothing significant according to every medical organisation?? This information is all available from them. Its just not publicised ffs " On the contrary, research and evidence actually shows a reduction in stillbirths after vaccination. See this article from the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists: https://www.rcog.org.uk/news/covid-19-vaccination-associated-with-15-reduction-in-stillbirths-in-pregnant-women/ I am unable to find any evidence to demonstrate a link between stillbirths & vaccines, but feel free to post "Your" evidence for us to look at. Cal | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal" This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021." Given Covid has been implicated in foetal demise, it can't automatically be ascribed to vaccination. Other factors exist. (I'm not saying Covid is solely responsible, but saying it's definitely the vaccines is impossible given this level of data) | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021." On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal | |||
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"Soz Cal I should have been more specific. These numbers come specifically from a specialist hospital my friend works at. "To me, that points more to the problem being with the hospital or a geographical influence rather than being caused by "the vaccine". If "the vaccine" was causing miscarriages & still births then it would be statistically apparent on a global scale. Cal | |||
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"Soz Cal I should have been more specific. These numbers come specifically from a specialist hospital my friend works at. "Would be helpful to know where this hospital is, that way we can do our best to encourage those in the area to obtain maternity care elsewhere. Any maternity facility with such high numbers of still births (I am assuming this is the institution which had a ten fold increase), either needs closing down, or has made a huge statistical error. Nita | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal" Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out "We shouldn't let facts spoil a good conspiracy | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
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"A large spike in deaths around the same time people took a experimental mRNA vaccine? I wonder what could be causing it. I fear this mystery will never get solved." it could be climate change ? Or another virus of some sort ? Im sure big pharma and Dr Gates will come up with a jab If it gets out of hand | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. " I heard it’s linked to the referee’s whistle which is causing it. | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. I heard it’s linked to the referee’s whistle which is causing it. " 5g? | |||
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"In unrelated news did you see all the footballers and other professional athletes literally falling over on the pitch with heart attacks? Weird, must be climate change doing it. I heard it’s linked to the referee’s whistle which is causing it. 5g?" Knock knock hello McFly is anybody in there? | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
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"The bstrd swine flu jab taken by expectant mothers caused a lot of still births so I wouldn't take any so called medicine pregnant if avoidable | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
We shouldn't let facts spoil a good conspiracy "Funny that the facts you court would deem someone falling off a cliff, drowning would be deemed cause of death: COVID | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
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Funny that the facts you court would deem someone falling off a cliff, drowning would be deemed cause of death: COVID "Stats that you've copied relate to still births. Are you saying they're incorrect? | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
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Funny that the facts you court would deem someone falling off a cliff, drowning would be deemed cause of death: COVID "I'd love to see any evidence of that. | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this " Sudden arrhythmic death syndrome, or SADS, is when someone dies suddenly following a cardiac arrest and no obvious cause can be found. (British Heart Foundation). | |||
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"I’ll try and put some myths to bed for you if I can So…CoVID ISNT NEW!!! Suprise suprise In fact SARS-COV1 was actually in 2003/2004 (world health organisation 2017) where by we called it MERS/SARS if everyone remembers right As far as the vaccine being untested? The SARS-COV1 vaccine was already being created and as a result it was adapted to work for COV2. The budget for the Oxford research group went up by 20x the normal as a result of the pandemic and many of the other researching stopped so that this could be prioritised, and it meant simultaneous testing and analysing could be done at the same time The chances of the CoVID vaccine causing blood clot is relatively low, about 0.5-2% depending which study you read (AstraZeneca group 2021) However with certain pregnancy tablets the rate is up to 4% (British national formula 2022) and people still take this Footballers dropping dead….they do a lot of physical acitivity and as a result are more likely to have cardiac issues.people can die from heart attacks doing anything (college of paramedics 2019) and in many cases it can be attributed to other things…… Do you know sex kills over 1000 people every year?……should we stop having sex just incase? Oh oh oh and I’ve actually met a patient who got injured falling from a sex swing…….just saying….. MrY So before the clot shots how many elite athletes can you or anyone else remember collapsing and dying? And yes SADS has been around for decades but its the amount and frequency it's being reported now 2+2= What comes to mind when I see posts like this is advice given a lot in 2020. Look outside the window. What do you see? I see people in a pub. Laughing. Happy. Everything is normal. It's lovely. Where do you hear all this stuff? The media? The media try to sell you fear. Turn off the media. You won't even know it's there. It'll do you good. Enjoy your life. We only get one. Don't trust the BBC (big bolshy con artists) or MSM (money seeking fraudsters media). You'll be happier for it. Life goes on
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Not true unfortunately. Yes a vaccine shot can cause short term period changes but that is to be expected. Periods are part of the body's protective immune system. The opposite is true. Vaccinated pregnant women have less still birth higher birth weights etc. Plus the women have a lower chance of dying of covid too." Enlighten me on periods being part of the immune system? What do periods defend the body from?  | |||
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"The official recorded stillbirths in the UK show: 2017 - 3200 2018 - 2958 2019 - 2596 2020 - 2429 2021 - 2628 Further back 1993 - 4392 2000 - 3594 2010 - 4110 2015 - 3434 This data is readily available on the ONS Website. Cal This data means squat in absolute numbers without context! Stillbirths rose for the first time in 7 years in 2021 in England and Wales since 2014. 3.9 babies in every 1,000 were stillborn in 2020 and increased to 4.2 in 1,000 last year, 2021. On the contrary, when somebody is claiming that still births had increased "Ten Fold", these figures demonstrate that the statement is completely untrue. There is no context requited for that! If the number of stillbirths had increased 10 fold, then we would see figures in the region of 25,000. Cal Funny how the facts don't bear any of it out
We shouldn't let facts spoil a good conspiracy
Funny that the facts you court would deem someone falling off a cliff, drowning would be deemed cause of death: COVID "According to official figures, the number of deaths due to falling from height has remained fairly consistent over the last 10 years. Most of these however occur in the workplace rather than from cliffs. Cal | |||
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"Neither SADS or SIDS has anything to do with the vaccine. It's been going on for years!! BUT if this "connection" is going to raise awareness then bring it on! It literally says on the nhs website that the vaccine can cause cardiac issues. It says increased myocarditis and pericarditis. So to say the increased spike in sads cases definitely isn't the vaccine is delusional. " If death is caused by inflammation of the myocardium or pericardium then surely it cannot be attributed to SADS, which by definition cause is unknown? | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Not true unfortunately. Yes a vaccine shot can cause short term period changes but that is to be expected. Periods are part of the body's protective immune system. The opposite is true. Vaccinated pregnant women have less still birth higher birth weights etc. Plus the women have a lower chance of dying of covid too. Enlighten me on periods being part of the immune system? What do periods defend the body from? "Certain types of men. | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Not true unfortunately. Yes a vaccine shot can cause short term period changes but that is to be expected. Periods are part of the body's protective immune system. The opposite is true. Vaccinated pregnant women have less still birth higher birth weights etc. Plus the women have a lower chance of dying of covid too. Enlighten me on periods being part of the immune system? What do periods defend the body from?
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Certain types of men. "Just spat my wine out | |||
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"Number 12. They had no idea about the safety of the shot for pregnant women but pushed it on them anyway. It caused huge numbers of spontaneous abortions. There was a study released saying the shot effected women's periods, altering the cycle length. Many women have reported having abnormally heavy bleeding during their periods. The other arguments sound like ridiculous strawmen designed to discredit legitimate questions. Not true unfortunately. Yes a vaccine shot can cause short term period changes but that is to be expected. Periods are part of the body's protective immune system. The opposite is true. Vaccinated pregnant women have less still birth higher birth weights etc. Plus the women have a lower chance of dying of covid too. Enlighten me on periods being part of the immune system? What do periods defend the body from?
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"Neither SADS or SIDS has anything to do with the vaccine. It's been going on for years!! BUT if this "connection" is going to raise awareness then bring it on! It literally says on the nhs website that the vaccine can cause cardiac issues. It says increased myocarditis and pericarditis. So to say the increased spike in sads cases definitely isn't the vaccine is delusional. If death is caused by inflammation of the myocardium or pericardium then surely it cannot be attributed to SADS, which by definition cause is unknown?" SADS can only be given as a cause of death after a pathologist has ruled out all other possible causes, so a full post mortem, toxicology screen, histology from all organs. Myocarditis and Pericarditis are easily identifiable at post mortem (fab member Kanaka). I (try to) have the good habit of questioning the rationale of members' posts to come across non-judgemental and it's actually enlightening to see how their minds work  . Often I have the facts although at times question my interpretation  | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this " “Allegedly” “Mysterious” And no quoted facts, figures or source. Definitely a made up story. | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this “Allegedly” “Mysterious” And no quoted facts, figures or source. Definitely a made up story." Google news is a viable news source, why would I make this up | |||
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"I think what you mean to say is vaccine adverse reactions, try searching for the yellow card scheme. When you had your jabs they are supposed to tell you where to report any reactions you may have. Let me guess they didn’t tell you, did they tell you that your taking part in a experimental vaccine trial with a unlicensed vaccine as well?" Didn’t the FDA fully approve the Rna vaccines a while back ? What trial are you referring to?? | |||
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"Lost someone I knew to SADs 25 before Covid... Any stats to show SADs has increased since Covid or just another none story by those clutching at straws in a desperate bid to hang on to their unraveling conspiracy theories..." At this stage it’s probably a bit early too and easily differentiate between the two but here are links to show that Covid can persist in tissues and suppress Lymphocytes. In AIDS is CD4 that gets suppressed , in Covid it’s CD8 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9057012/ Viral nucleocapsid protein persisted in 24 of 46 patients in gut epithelium and CD8+ T cells Covid in these patients could be opening the door to other diseases- so it’s going to be hard to directly link it to Covid but there will no doubt be an indirect effect | |||
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"Lost someone I knew to SADs 25 before Covid... Any stats to show SADs has increased since Covid or just another none story by those clutching at straws in a desperate bid to hang on to their unraveling conspiracy theories..." Such is the way with most of this stuff. I hope we get to see the backpedalling, obfuscation etc in all its glory in a few years time. The internet is forever and the record is already poor | |||
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"Lost someone I knew to SADs 25 before Covid... Any stats to show SADs has increased since Covid or just another none story by those clutching at straws in a desperate bid to hang on to their unraveling conspiracy theories... At this stage it’s probably a bit early too and easily differentiate between the two but here are links to show that Covid can persist in tissues and suppress Lymphocytes. In AIDS is CD4 that gets suppressed , in Covid it’s CD8 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9057012/ Viral nucleocapsid protein persisted in 24 of 46 patients in gut epithelium and CD8+ T cells Covid in these patients could be opening the door to other diseases- so it’s going to be hard to directly link it to Covid but there will no doubt be an indirect effect " Which could mean those unvaccinated are the ones at greater risk...we may not know fully for years | |||
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"Lost someone I knew to SADs 25 before Covid... Any stats to show SADs has increased since Covid or just another none story by those clutching at straws in a desperate bid to hang on to their unraveling conspiracy theories... At this stage it’s probably a bit early too and easily differentiate between the two but here are links to show that Covid can persist in tissues and suppress Lymphocytes. In AIDS is CD4 that gets suppressed , in Covid it’s CD8 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9057012/ Viral nucleocapsid protein persisted in 24 of 46 patients in gut epithelium and CD8+ T cells Covid in these patients could be opening the door to other diseases- so it’s going to be hard to directly link it to Covid but there will no doubt be an indirect effect Which could mean those unvaccinated are the ones at greater risk...we may not know fully for years" The indicators do seem to be pointing in that direction, if I understand the material correctly | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support?? It could be but no one knows what it is yet I’m sure we will get answers soon
You'll get lots of answers on here...here come the experts.... "I wouldn't be so flippant agenda21,30 as signed up 2001 orders forced vaxs and depopulation. Laugh until it affects you! But hey incoming energies may hopefully help us revealing times ahead apparently | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support?? It could be but no one knows what it is yet I’m sure we will get answers soon
You'll get lots of answers on here...here come the experts....
I wouldn't be so flippant agenda21,30 as signed up 2001 orders forced vaxs and depopulation.
Laugh until it affects you!
But hey incoming energies may hopefully help us revealing times ahead apparently "That is nearly a full house of conspiracy BS bingo. | |||
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"Sudden Adult Death Syndrome is allegedly a mysterious issue recently amongst under 40s in the UK. They have no GOV currently have no answers for what could be causing this Another non story trying to raise more anti vaccine support?? It could be but no one knows what it is yet I’m sure we will get answers soon
You'll get lots of answers on here...here come the experts....
I wouldn't be so flippant agenda21,30 as signed up 2001 orders forced vaxs and depopulation.
Laugh until it affects you!
But hey incoming energies may hopefully help us revealing times ahead apparently
That is nearly a full house of conspiracy BS bingo."Likely more to come, as people cling to comforting convenient lies over the cold hard truth. | |||
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