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"How many people have never had covid.. For a start, me I haven't despite working in a hospital with it from the beginning." You may have had it and just been asymptomatic. Or have you tested every single day since March 2020? | |||
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"Not had it, yet. It's really doing the rounds here at the minute. Confident I've not had it as I'd testing regularly" False negatives? | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms " Correct | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms Correct " Isn't that like saying that obviously everyone has had it but lots don't show symptoms? | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms Correct Isn't that like saying that obviously everyone has had it but lots don't show symptoms?" Asymptomatic Covid - bit like Santa, so many believe in what doesn't exist | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms Correct Isn't that like saying that obviously everyone has had it but lots don't show symptoms? Asymptomatic Covid - bit like Santa, so many believe in what doesn't exist " sadly it really does. We test our residents and 3 have no symptoms at all x | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms Correct Isn't that like saying that obviously everyone has had it but lots don't show symptoms? Asymptomatic Covid - bit like Santa, so many believe in what doesn't exist " Of course it exists that is what caused covid to spread so quickly at the beginning and one of the reasons so many have covid now. | |||
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"I think many people who say they haven’t had it usually have but have simply had zero symptoms Correct Isn't that like saying that obviously everyone has had it but lots don't show symptoms? Asymptomatic Covid - bit like Santa, so many believe in what doesn't exist " I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all. If you read he thread, some are saying the haven't actually had covid and the response has been probably no symptoms so therefore if that's the reasoning the surely it can be said that everyone has had covid but some show the symptoms but the majority don't. | |||
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"Have managed to steer clear of it all this time, was admited to hospital sat for something unrelated and tested positive before i got put on a ward, had no symptoms at all and still dont, only good thing is i got my own room because im positive and im here till at least friday and gota say every single member of staff here is a fucking diamond " Hope you're getting to feel well and benefitting from the rest | |||
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"If there are false negatives then isn't it feasible that there are false positives? " Yes. It's less likely to infect more people than a false negative. | |||
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"None of us know if we never had Covid. All we can say is that we didn't have noticable symptoms." Likewise, some are now finding they can't excercise like they did etc, only to find they are carrying the antibodies from an infection they never realised they had. | |||
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"If there are false negatives then isn't it feasible that there are false positives? " Yes with lft. Lft is positive but pcr is negative. Youngest experienced this everyday for 3 weeks. Covid was perpetually doing the rounds where they worked. Lft was and still is compulsory prior to each shift. | |||
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"If there are false negatives then isn't it feasible that there are false positives? Yes with lft. Lft is positive but pcr is negative. Youngest experienced this everyday for 3 weeks. Covid was perpetually doing the rounds where they worked. Lft was and still is compulsory prior to each shift. " There's data out there on rates of sensitivity and specificity of the tests (rates of false positives and negatives), as well as guides on how to use this information at different levels of community prevalence. | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. " Yup, possible. But the odds are reduced dramatically if you take precautions. It's not in any way inevitable that everyone will get it. | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. " So actually you are saying everyone has had covid but most or some won't know whether or not they've had it because no symptoms. How many times will I have had it since March 2020 please so I know if I get asked if I've had covid or not | |||
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"Lateral flow test every week for nearly two years and no positive result. " But according to some of the 'experts' above, you will have had it and a false negative and no symptoms apparently | |||
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"I never get covid and now I have to get vaccin to go on my holidays without stress with negative test and all this bullshit in airport" Could be worse eh? | |||
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"I had all the symptoms and fealty like death warmed up back in February but tested negative each day and got told to go to work.. within a week 3 of my colleagues were off sick having tested positive " That may have been a false negative. Some fatuous 'experts' on here would say there's no such thing and you were negative all along and your 3 colleagues had false positive test results! | |||
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"Until last week. Me!" Snap - until last week not a sniff. And like the OP I too work in a hospital. | |||
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"I'm black sheep in family, not vaccinated. Wife fully, COVID twice, daughter fully vac COVID twice, daughter bf fully vac once, at work vacs+boosters COVID twice, 4ppl ... Can't understand not getting it finishing dishes at home from wife and daughter with their forks because lack of appetite. I'm lucky or RoboCop? " Or perhaps they all caught it from you? | |||
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"Try a covid antibibody test, one that doesn't pick up the vaccine, you could be surprised at the result. " Why take a test though if you’re feeling fine? It’s a genuine question.. As I’ve not knowingly had COVID nor felt unwell since March 2020 when the pandemic (as we know it) began why take a test? | |||
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"Try a covid antibibody test, one that doesn't pick up the vaccine, you could be surprised at the result. Why take a test though if you’re feeling fine? It’s a genuine question.. As I’ve not knowingly had COVID nor felt unwell since March 2020 when the pandemic (as we know it) began why take a test? " To make sure you're not an asymptomatic carrier, so you don't spread it to someone less lucky than you. | |||
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"Try a covid antibibody test, one that doesn't pick up the vaccine, you could be surprised at the result. Why take a test though if you’re feeling fine? It’s a genuine question.. As I’ve not knowingly had COVID nor felt unwell since March 2020 when the pandemic (as we know it) began why take a test? To make sure you're not an asymptomatic carrier, so you don't spread it to someone less lucky than you. " Social responsibility, consideration for others. I might be fine - I might inadvertently spread it to someone who isn't as fortunate. I test to protect them as much as myself. | |||
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"Some people are very lucky and have natural immunities. Some people don't, and die. My nurse friend toom her son to A&E a few days ago and they didn't have a bed for him in a ward. She was told there are no beds across London because of the Covid patients. " Covid patients,that will have 3 or 4 other health issues,this is what's not getting stated in the media. | |||
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"I've never had it and touch wood, I never will but I'll always remain very careful x" That's all any of us can do and not really a big sacrifice to show a bit of care especially for those who for whatever reason may be more vulnerable. | |||
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"Some people are very lucky and have natural immunities. Some people don't, and die. My nurse friend toom her son to A&E a few days ago and they didn't have a bed for him in a ward. She was told there are no beds across London because of the Covid patients. Covid patients,that will have 3 or 4 other health issues,this is what's not getting stated in the media." People with health issues who caught Covid and had to be hospitalised, because the SARS virus made them dangerously ill. | |||
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"I've never had it and touch wood, I never will but I'll always remain very careful x That's all any of us can do and not really a big sacrifice to show a bit of care especially for those who for whatever reason may be more vulnerable. " I don't go out that much, only if I really need to so going to visit my parents concerns me a little x | |||
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"How many people have never had covid.. For a start, me I haven't despite working in a hospital with it from the beginning." I've not had COVID as far as I am aware. | |||
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"Or you were asymptomatic ....." That is a possibility. Though equally I just may not have had COVID. | |||
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"Until last week. Me!" Me too. Was been so smug about never having it. Then it floored me, just for 3 days, but still. | |||
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"Never had It in 2 years since the start until last week I had cold/flu symptoms then tested positive for it. And this is with my mixing with the general public alot during them two years vaccine free and no mask. I do believe that now the majority have had the vaccine, they have became super spreaders and now everyone is getting it. " Or it could be spreading because everyone is mixing,not wearing masks and not testing. | |||
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"Never had It in 2 years since the start until last week I had cold/flu symptoms then tested positive for it. And this is with my mixing with the general public alot during them two years vaccine free and no mask. I do believe that now the majority have had the vaccine, they have became super spreaders and now everyone is getting it. Or it could be spreading because everyone is mixing,not wearing masks and not testing." Well that's far too logical | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. " Asymptomatic spread is a theory. Not a fact. There is a difference. You should really have said a third of people are thought to be. Instead of saying that they are. You should also be aware that the tests can be very unreliable and produce lot's of false positives when used at a high cycle threshold. 40-45 cycles will do that. | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. Asymptomatic spread is a theory. Not a fact. There is a difference. You should really have said a third of people are thought to be. Instead of saying that they are. You should also be aware that the tests can be very unreliable and produce lot's of false positives when used at a high cycle threshold. 40-45 cycles will do that. " I contacted both the UKHSA and Public Health Scotland and asked why the tests are being done at such a high cycle. They couldn't provide an answer. | |||
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"Never had It in 2 years since the start until last week I had cold/flu symptoms then tested positive for it. And this is with my mixing with the general public alot during them two years vaccine free and no mask. I do believe that now the majority have had the vaccine, they have became super spreaders and now everyone is getting it. " You are not the only one who thinks that. I have also never worn a mask or had the vaccine. I've been fine. | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. Asymptomatic spread is a theory. Not a fact. There is a difference. You should really have said a third of people are thought to be. Instead of saying that they are. You should also be aware that the tests can be very unreliable and produce lot's of false positives when used at a high cycle threshold. 40-45 cycles will do that. " I agree with everything you've said. Point being, I wasn't talking about 'spread'. I think asymptomatic spread is very unlikely. | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. " Just one study? Can you give me a link to it? Thanks. | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. Just one study? Can you give me a link to it? Thanks." I can't unfortunately as it is against the site rules, unless a site like the BBC, BMJ etc. However, a not laborious Google search should take you there. The highest quality evidence on asymptomatic carriers was derived from two large surveys conducted in England and Spain. The English study identified a prevalence of 32.4% compared with 33% in the Spanish study. Based on these results, the authors estimated that prevalence of asymptomatic carriers is likely to be around a third. 426,000 people in the study. Again, a not laborious Google search should take you there. Finally, Florida University looked at 350 papers and over 350 papers, they estimated that more than one-third of infections are truly asymptomatic. They found evidence of greater asymptomaticity in children compared with the elderly, and lower asymptomaticity among cases with comorbidities compared to cases with no underlying conditions. | |||
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"I have no problem to get the vaccin I get one 2 weeks ago but because I get it just to don't have stress when I travel I fell like someone push me to get it and I don't like that" So why have it? | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. " As the font of all knowledge, is it not possible that you're occasionally incorrect and there are people around who haven't actually had it or asymptomatic either? I have several friends who have tested at least 4 times a week and they're never had the virus at all. Never had time off, time away from work and in fact, apparently never had so much as a sniffle since November 2019. I don't think anyone can say to them that they've actually had it or tested negative even falsely unless you're actually saying that absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not. | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. " And that's safe to say that isn't everyone so therefore because someone says they haven't had it, why then quip and say not knowingly or you could have and been asymptomatic? Is it impossible to accept that, BY YOUR OWN FACTS, that two thirds haven't had it? | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had " Have you tested or assuming you've covid? | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. Just one study? Can you give me a link to it? Thanks. I can't unfortunately as it is against the site rules, unless a site like the BBC, BMJ etc. However, a not laborious Google search should take you there. The highest quality evidence on asymptomatic carriers was derived from two large surveys conducted in England and Spain. The English study identified a prevalence of 32.4% compared with 33% in the Spanish study. Based on these results, the authors estimated that prevalence of asymptomatic carriers is likely to be around a third. 426,000 people in the study. Again, a not laborious Google search should take you there. Finally, Florida University looked at 350 papers and over 350 papers, they estimated that more than one-third of infections are truly asymptomatic. They found evidence of greater asymptomaticity in children compared with the elderly, and lower asymptomaticity among cases with comorbidities compared to cases with no underlying conditions. " False positives - God no, that would destroy the myth of "asymptomatic" Covid | |||
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"How many people have never had covid.. For a start, me I haven't despite working in a hospital with it from the beginning." Despite my interests being close to.people some of who had coronavirus Lucky so far | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? " Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk " Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. As the font of all knowledge, is it not possible that you're occasionally incorrect and there are people around who haven't actually had it or asymptomatic either? I have several friends who have tested at least 4 times a week and they're never had the virus at all. Never had time off, time away from work and in fact, apparently never had so much as a sniffle since November 2019. I don't think anyone can say to them that they've actually had it or tested negative even falsely unless you're actually saying that absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not." Well, first of all, I've never said that I'm the 'font of all knowledge' and, secondly, if you'd bothered to property read what I wrote, you'd understand that I merely said that, where people think they may never have had covid, it MAY be the case that they actually did have it and were asymptomatic abd/or had a false negative test result. That still leaves plenty of scope for some people to have never caught it. You know very well that I have never said 'absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not'. If you believe I have, please put the relevant words of mine in quotation marks and advise how many hours ago I wrote it. You won't be able to, because I neither said it or even implied it. | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. And that's safe to say that isn't everyone so therefore because someone says they haven't had it, why then quip and say not knowingly or you could have and been asymptomatic? Is it impossible to accept that, BY YOUR OWN FACTS, that two thirds haven't had it? " There is so little English in this particular post, Nicola Sturgeon would approve. I can't even begin to comment on it, because it's not clear what on earth you are trying to say. | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives " Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. " We'd heard (from a credible source) that lft s are pretty accurate...when testing negative yet have covid, its not gone up the nose or throat enough or not been in the solution enough...which makes sense | |||
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"Not had it, yet. It's really doing the rounds here at the minute. Confident I've not had it as I'd testing regularly False negatives? " Or maybe they just haven't had it? | |||
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"Not had it, yet. It's really doing the rounds here at the minute. Confident I've not had it as I'd testing regularly False negatives? Or maybe they just haven't had it?" Oooh, can't be having that. Some people aren't satisfied with the 'haven't had it' answer. Surely everyone in the World has had it. I haven't had it. | |||
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"Not had it, yet. It's really doing the rounds here at the minute. Confident I've not had it as I'd testing regularly False negatives? Or maybe they just haven't had it? Oooh, can't be having that. Some people aren't satisfied with the 'haven't had it' answer. Surely everyone in the World has had it. I haven't had it." I refer you to your answer to the question what you would say to your 18 year old self | |||
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"Not had it, yet. It's really doing the rounds here at the minute. Confident I've not had it as I'd testing regularly False negatives? Or maybe they just haven't had it? Oooh, can't be having that. Some people aren't satisfied with the 'haven't had it' answer. Surely everyone in the World has had it. I haven't had it." So weird when people are asbolutly adamant that everyone has had it | |||
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"How many people have never had covid.. For a start, me I haven't despite working in a hospital with it from the beginning." I've not had it | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. As the font of all knowledge, is it not possible that you're occasionally incorrect and there are people around who haven't actually had it or asymptomatic either? I have several friends who have tested at least 4 times a week and they're never had the virus at all. Never had time off, time away from work and in fact, apparently never had so much as a sniffle since November 2019. I don't think anyone can say to them that they've actually had it or tested negative even falsely unless you're actually saying that absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not. Well, first of all, I've never said that I'm the 'font of all knowledge' and, secondly, if you'd bothered to property read what I wrote, you'd understand that I merely said that, where people think they may never have had covid, it MAY be the case that they actually did have it and were asymptomatic abd/or had a false negative test result. That still leaves plenty of scope for some people to have never caught it. You know very well that I have never said 'absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not'. If you believe I have, please put the relevant words of mine in quotation marks and advise how many hours ago I wrote it. You won't be able to, because I neither said it or even implied it. " I didn't say that. You're implying that if someone hadn't had it or haven't had symptoms then they could be asymptomatic | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. And that's safe to say that isn't everyone so therefore because someone says they haven't had it, why then quip and say not knowingly or you could have and been asymptomatic? Is it impossible to accept that, BY YOUR OWN FACTS, that two thirds haven't had it? There is so little English in this particular post, Nicola Sturgeon would approve. I can't even begin to comment on it, because it's not clear what on earth you are trying to say. " So now you're being anti Scottish or misogynistic? | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. " And actually PCR aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. As the font of all knowledge, is it not possible that you're occasionally incorrect and there are people around who haven't actually had it or asymptomatic either? I have several friends who have tested at least 4 times a week and they're never had the virus at all. Never had time off, time away from work and in fact, apparently never had so much as a sniffle since November 2019. I don't think anyone can say to them that they've actually had it or tested negative even falsely unless you're actually saying that absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not. Well, first of all, I've never said that I'm the 'font of all knowledge' and, secondly, if you'd bothered to property read what I wrote, you'd understand that I merely said that, where people think they may never have had covid, it MAY be the case that they actually did have it and were asymptomatic abd/or had a false negative test result. That still leaves plenty of scope for some people to have never caught it. You know very well that I have never said 'absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not'. If you believe I have, please put the relevant words of mine in quotation marks and advise how many hours ago I wrote it. You won't be able to, because I neither said it or even implied it. I didn't say that. You're implying that if someone hadn't had it or haven't had symptoms then they could be asymptomatic " At last, you've understood! 'Could' have been asymptomatic or had a false negative test result. And I don't just imply it, I absolutely 100% am satisfied from everything I've seen and read that it's correct to say it. Just as it's correct to say that some people have never had it, not even asymptomatically! Where are you going to go now, given that your attempt to keep your dispute going and misrepresent what I said, has collapsed? | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. And that's safe to say that isn't everyone so therefore because someone says they haven't had it, why then quip and say not knowingly or you could have and been asymptomatic? Is it impossible to accept that, BY YOUR OWN FACTS, that two thirds haven't had it? There is so little English in this particular post, Nicola Sturgeon would approve. I can't even begin to comment on it, because it's not clear what on earth you are trying to say. So now you're being anti Scottish or misogynistic? " Incorrect again. My girlfriend is Scottish! Like me, she believes in the Union and is therefore anti-SNP. Misogynistic? For woke balance then, let's say there was so little English in your particular post, Ian Blackford would approve. | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. And actually PCR aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate " That's a correct statement. I previously said no test is 100% reliable, even those who meet regulatory standards for performance and safety. PCR tests are more reliable than lateral flow tests,but not 100% accurate. | |||
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"Nope and I've been working all the time.... " You have now. Lol. | |||
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"In a recent East African study, of the 71 participants who tested positive for COVID and were later confirmed to have the Omicron variant, 27 per cent were asymptomatic. Similar European studies have shown similar asymptomatic rates. Think it's safe to say it's (approximately) a third. And that's safe to say that isn't everyone so therefore because someone says they haven't had it, why then quip and say not knowingly or you could have and been asymptomatic? Is it impossible to accept that, BY YOUR OWN FACTS, that two thirds haven't had it? There is so little English in this particular post, Nicola Sturgeon would approve. I can't even begin to comment on it, because it's not clear what on earth you are trying to say. So now you're being anti Scottish or misogynistic? Incorrect again. My girlfriend is Scottish! Like me, she believes in the Union and is therefore anti-SNP. Misogynistic? For woke balance then, let's say there was so little English in your particular post, Ian Blackford would approve. " Obviously a great loving girlfriend as you're on here looking as a single guy? Hmmmmm? I'm pretty sure you and Ian Blackford are separated at birth. You're probably not aware that you are so similar in your opinions. Like him, you only open your mouth to change your feet. Yep, misogynistic as I said and stand by because you don't think you are but your comments are. | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. And actually PCR aren't guaranteed to be 100% accurate That's a correct statement. I previously said no test is 100% reliable, even those who meet regulatory standards for performance and safety. PCR tests are more reliable than lateral flow tests,but not 100% accurate. " Wow, you actually agreed with me on something. Phew | |||
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"Virtually impossible to tell as some people have covid but no symptoms" Think that's well established but some have haven't had it | |||
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"Not had it. Don't know anyone who has either." Finally got it last month. | |||
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"Not had it. Don't know anyone who has either." wow that's incredibly rare... I'm in the camp of barely knowing anyone that hasn't x | |||
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"My nan has never had it but she's been dead 15 years so I suppose that doesn't count. " | |||
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"Not knowingly had covid? You may have had it and just been asymptomatic, like a third of infected people are. Unless you've tested every single day since March 2020? Even then, there's the false negative element. Such an insidious virus on so many levels. As the font of all knowledge, is it not possible that you're occasionally incorrect and there are people around who haven't actually had it or asymptomatic either? I have several friends who have tested at least 4 times a week and they're never had the virus at all. Never had time off, time away from work and in fact, apparently never had so much as a sniffle since November 2019. I don't think anyone can say to them that they've actually had it or tested negative even falsely unless you're actually saying that absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not. Well, first of all, I've never said that I'm the 'font of all knowledge' and, secondly, if you'd bothered to property read what I wrote, you'd understand that I merely said that, where people think they may never have had covid, it MAY be the case that they actually did have it and were asymptomatic abd/or had a false negative test result. That still leaves plenty of scope for some people to have never caught it. You know very well that I have never said 'absolutely everyone has had it, without exception, tested or not'. If you believe I have, please put the relevant words of mine in quotation marks and advise how many hours ago I wrote it. You won't be able to, because I neither said it or even implied it. " You're actually taking words out of context. I'll leave you to think you're right | |||
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"I was doing well to this week Then been in bed since Tuesday. Tight chest and cough but nowhere near the headache that I had Have you tested or assuming you've covid? Tested. Had a few boxes of tests at home. Due to dad and mum being high risk Course, according to some on here, they could be false negatives Yes, there's a small risk they could be. Do you have evidence that there's no such thing as false negative test results? I glean mine from Imperial College, London who say lateral flow tests will miss a proportion of people who are infectious, particularly during the early stages of infection. This means that using them as a ‘green light’ test, for example to go and visit a vulnerable person, could be providing false reassurance. This is because, unlike PCR tests, lateral flow tests cannot detect very low levels of coronavirus in a sample. This means the test may not give a positive result if you have only recently been infected; are in the incubation period; or if you have mostly recovered. " No I don't have evidence of false negative or false positive in either lft or pcr but there's a plethora of experts on here that will tell you that even if you haven't had it or asymptomatic and tested, then you've probably had it anyway. Why dispute the members on here? | |||
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"No I have never had it, live in high risk areas and prone to colds and flu and will not accept the experimental unnecessary vaccines. I know a load of people that have never had it. Those that have had it got over it and described it as either mild or flu like. So it does make me question all the panic….." ill be sure to tell my dead relatives and friends that covid is just mild... oh wait... I can't, it killed them... ill do the same to the residents we lost before the game changing tried and tested vaccines came along and made such a huge difference.. oh and I've just had it a 2nd time and thankfully no where near as bad thanks to my vaccines | |||
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"No I have never had it, live in high risk areas and prone to colds and flu and will not accept the experimental unnecessary vaccines. I know a load of people that have never had it. Those that have had it got over it and described it as either mild or flu like. So it does make me question all the panic…..ill be sure to tell my dead relatives and friends that covid is just mild... oh wait... I can't, it killed them... ill do the same to the residents we lost before the game changing tried and tested vaccines came along and made such a huge difference.. oh and I've just had it a 2nd time and thankfully no where near as bad thanks to my vaccines" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics | |||
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"No I have never had it, live in high risk areas and prone to colds and flu and will not accept the experimental unnecessary vaccines. I know a load of people that have never had it. Those that have had it got over it and described it as either mild or flu like. So it does make me question all the panic…..ill be sure to tell my dead relatives and friends that covid is just mild... oh wait... I can't, it killed them... ill do the same to the residents we lost before the game changing tried and tested vaccines came along and made such a huge difference.. oh and I've just had it a 2nd time and thankfully no where near as bad thanks to my vaccines I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics" You make a good point. And with the benefit of hindsight as more things are seen to be a consequence of "lockdown" or equally a consequence of covid infection or vaccine or tests track and trace, it may be possible to judge if that is what people want to do. It's also possible, though we never will know, that some or all of the above helped. Nobody has a time machine so all we can do is push on and be the best we can be. | |||
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" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics" After all this time and people are still saying this. The scale of how many people had Covid and died from it , is totally different to Flu. Imagine how many more would have died if there was no lockdown | |||
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" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics After all this time and people are still saying this. The scale of how many people had Covid and died from it , is totally different to Flu. Imagine how many more would have died if there was no lockdown " Did they die OF Covid or WITH Covid? It seemed the NHS was putting Covid down on everything for some reason, how many thousands in the Covid death figures should not have been? | |||
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" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics After all this time and people are still saying this. The scale of how many people had Covid and died from it , is totally different to Flu. Imagine how many more would have died if there was no lockdown Did they die OF Covid or WITH Covid? It seemed the NHS was putting Covid down on everything for some reason, how many thousands in the Covid death figures should not have been? " Again, after all this time people are still saying this too. Most odd | |||
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" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics After all this time and people are still saying this. The scale of how many people had Covid and died from it , is totally different to Flu. Imagine how many more would have died if there was no lockdown Did they die OF Covid or WITH Covid? It seemed the NHS was putting Covid down on everything for some reason, how many thousands in the Covid death figures should not have been? Again, after all this time people are still saying this too. Most odd" Unfortunately some people will never be persuaded otherwise, despite the science | |||
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" I am sorry you lost people, but elderly and vulnerable people died of flu every year despite vaccines. Yet the whole country was not crippled with lockdowns to protect the same demographics After all this time and people are still saying this. The scale of how many people had Covid and died from it , is totally different to Flu. Imagine how many more would have died if there was no lockdown Did they die OF Covid or WITH Covid? It seemed the NHS was putting Covid down on everything for some reason, how many thousands in the Covid death figures should not have been? Again, after all this time people are still saying this too. Most odd Unfortunately some people will never be persuaded otherwise, despite the science " I'm looking forward to all the savings when we close oncology centres. We've solved the cancer crisis. With cancer not of cancer! Terrorism no longer exists. With terrorism, not of terrorism! (Maybe we should pay enormous restitution to all those countries we invaded, because probably a lot of those terrorist victims died because they were fat, old, and didn't take their supplements) | |||
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