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By *otswoldguy911 OP Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And how much on test kits that are inaccurate. 400 million dished out by December I believe from research the cost is around £5 per test kit. How is it 2 years ago they couldn't put roofs on schools or provide paper and books. How many lives would have been saved if that money was spent on public health and deprived areas.

This is nothing to do with public health and saving lives.

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By *ellhungvweMan
over a year ago

Cheltenham

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

Are you sure they spent that money just on the app? That sounds incredibly unlikely.

I can easily imagine they have spent that sort of sum on the whole programme of work but on the app - no.

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By *r and Miss MischiefCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

That money could of went into recruiting more NHS staff, cancer research, treatments, mental health, alcoholism and the obesity problem and would of saved countless life’s from the destruction the lockdowns have caused. It’s amazing how so much money has been wasted and the problem we as the taxpayer will probably have to foot the bill at some stage.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

This was claimed by "someone on Facebook" according to the Fullfact fact checker. The actual cost for the app was £76 million.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

Just read this.

It's $32 billion, which is about £23 billion.

It's also the entire Test and Trace system, not just the app. So that's payments for the testing centres, consultants, labs, etc.

Still a huge amount, but not anything like is being implied here.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

Its not the app it's the full service.

Still alot of money but please be clear when stating numbers as there is a lot of miss information out there.

So test and trace includes the app but also testing facilities, the salaries of people doing the testing and tracing etc.

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/127/public-accounts-committee/news/150988/unimaginable-cost-of-test-trace-failed-to-deliver-central-promise-of-averting-another-lockdown/

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

It's a lengthy report but stuff like lateral flow testing alone seems to cost about & £10billion out of that £32 billion

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

To put it into context its about the same size as the department for transport

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

In related news Rushi Sunak and HM Treasury look like they might write of the suspected £4bn in Covid support fraud (business grants, furlough payments etc).

£4bn

Let that sink in. That is our money they won’t try to recover! What could that pay for? Guess how that will get paid back? That’s right, through tax rises.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"In related news Rushi Sunak and HM Treasury look like they might write of the suspected £4bn in Covid support fraud (business grants, furlough payments etc).

£4bn

Let that sink in. That is our money they won’t try to recover! What could that pay for? Guess how that will get paid back? That’s right, through tax rises."

*write off (typo)

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Several £billions were paid out illegaly, or is unaccounted for. Of course the 'VIP' contract lane that Conservative Ministers, MPs and House of Lords members pushed business through for money for goods that were often resale of unusable shoddy crap, doesn't get the attention it deserves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are witnessing the biggest cash transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in our history.

Wheres there is disaster, there's money to be made.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"In related news Rushi Sunak and HM Treasury look like they might write of the suspected £4bn in Covid support fraud (business grants, furlough payments etc).

£4bn

Let that sink in. That is our money they won’t try to recover! What could that pay for? Guess how that will get paid back? That’s right, through tax rises."

Tax rises. And printing money... which is a hidden tax which hits you when you are elderly.

What else will come out when the history books are written?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"In related news Rushi Sunak and HM Treasury look like they might write of the suspected £4bn in Covid support fraud (business grants, furlough payments etc).

£4bn

Let that sink in. That is our money they won’t try to recover! What could that pay for? Guess how that will get paid back? That’s right, through tax rises.

Tax rises. And printing money... which is a hidden tax which hits you when you are elderly.

What else will come out when the history books are written? "

Indeed. Sovereign currency provider, “prints” money to borrow from self that leads to inflation hitting us all in the pocket AND then tell us we need tax rises to pay (ourselves) back!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imagine if all the money so called invested or spent on aspects of varied protections would’ve been spent on the NHS. Wouldn’t be possible to use it as a bargaining chip then though.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"And how much on test kits that are inaccurate. 400 million dished out by December I believe from research the cost is around £5 per test kit. How is it 2 years ago they couldn't put roofs on schools or provide paper and books. How many lives would have been saved if that money was spent on public health and deprived areas.

This is nothing to do with public health and saving lives. "

If they really are paying a fiver per test then that is symptomatic of everything wrong with the NHS. It over pays for everything.

We run a Covid test centre in Germany and buy Lateral Flow Tests (LFT'S) in bulk.

Depending on the manufacturer and type of kit the price varies from 1.60€ (£1.36) to 2.80€ (£2.39). And that is for buying a few thousand at a time, not a few million.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

So yet again we have complete BS information being posted from the ever accurate news source known as Facebook oh dear what next "wake up sheeple" comments? I think the real sheeple are the ones that are being conned into believing this utter nonsense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May 21 schools and colleges 5.7 million tests per week.

Primary schools around 850k so 7.5 million alone in education in one week. Even at 50 p per test that is a lot of money that should have been spent elsewhere. Maybe on improving sports facilties or public recreation areas in deprived areas.

Its a complete scandal and has shown our government to be utterly useless and corrupt.

However most of us have known that for many years

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

Relax everyone, we have been saving 350 million a week since Jan 2021, we can pay this off in under 2 years

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

And the whole "VIP" lane for covid contracts was found to be illegal by the High Court but hardly got a mention on the so called News channel ???

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

This is nothing to do with public health and saving lives.

If they really are paying a fiver per test then that is symptomatic of everything wrong with the NHS. It over pays for everything.

We run a Covid test centre in Germany and buy Lateral Flow Tests (LFT'S) in bulk.

Depending on the manufacturer and type of kit the price varies from 1.60€ (£1.36) to 2.80€ (£2.39). And that is for buying a few thousand at a time, not a few million.

I once knew the NHS pay £12,000 for something that should have cost about £4,000. I know it's correct as I was involved in it.

It's only taxpayers' money! But I wonder how much of this ineptitude goes on

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Relax everyone, we have been saving 350 million a week since Jan 2021, we can pay this off in under 2 years

Indeed we have, but even major savings are blown away by these ridiculous lockdowns

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By *enuineguy76Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

This is nothing to do with public health and saving lives. "
the price of “follow the science” has certainly proved to be costly in every sense of the word -

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The infamous 32 number again, how fitting!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looking it up, the figure is supposedly 37 billion quid over 2 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh if we're talking about just the app, that apparently cost £76 million in the first year.

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By *adysueandneroCouple
over a year ago

witney

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

What's your point. Because people will still vote for the tories anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go?

What's your point. Because people will still vote for the tories anyway. "

I commiserate you on having had David Cameron as your MP.

If there was a viable opposition people wouldn't need to vote Conservative.

The Tories are a shower of shit, but they have been aided and abetted by other parties throughout this debacle.

Coronavirus Act 2020

For: 484

Against: 76

Coronavirus Act 2020 (Review of Temporary Provisions)

For: 330

Against: 24

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

No it didn't.

Winston

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"So yet again we have complete BS information being posted from the ever accurate news source known as Facebook oh dear what next "wake up sheeple" comments? I think the real sheeple are the ones that are being conned into believing this utter nonsense

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

OP - do you have a link for this claim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When this app was offered to the public, under the radar the government changed the data rules for the Nhs.

They gave the public a choice to opt out, if people didn't opt out their information could be shared, or sold to data brokers, where you eat or drink, you location your contacts and the information you hold on your contacts and many other bits of data we all give out on a daily bases.

I opted out and didn't use the app I just kept the cards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Government spent 32 billion on the test and trace app… that’s more than the entire research and development budget of Microsoft …

Where did the money really go? "

No the money was spent on the entire testing and tracing system, including all the home testing, lab testing, labs, testing centres, app, employees at all the above, call centres for contact tracing, distribution of all the ppe so testing staff and so on and so on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So my point is they who ever they are, designers of the app, the government and the Nhs and whoever else have made a profit from the questioned 32 with our money by selling the data of those who opted out or were unaware of this to data brokers which is a billion dollar business.

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