FabSwingers.com forum: Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How would you know they were unvaccinated?

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

I personally wouldn't be able to check but if things go ahead then I wont have to worry as they will all be vaccinated

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

We know

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By *readsOfValhallaCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

This is getting silly now

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"This is getting silly now "

I know it’s always the same agenda

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated? "

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

Ha ha, great response

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would not have a problem. After all, they've been risking their lives treating us all through the whole thing so far!

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

They test daily so it's safe but I would wonder why not.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How would you know they were unvaccinated? "

You wouldn't.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!

Winston"

Mmm..

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!

Winston

Mmm..

I've already got 2 of the props.

Winston

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd be governed bu circumstances - context is all

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

Thats my next profile pic, right there!!!!!

Winston

Mmm..

I've already got 2 of the props.

Winston"

Ditto..

But never worn them together

I did once threaten to when our then just teenage daughter was throwing a strop on holiday, I even laid the socks out to see if the colour matched..

Job done..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't."

Well what was the point of the question then?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I personally wouldn't be able to check but if things go ahead then I wont have to worry as they will all be vaccinated

Why would you be worried?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then? "

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

Excellent use of badinage Sir.

Salute'

Winston

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston"

Nice one Centurion, like it..

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston"

Innoculation?

Yes..

Good, door on the left..one jab only..

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Yes I would. I see it as a personal choice whether to be vaccinated or not. I don't think anybody should be coerced into it or face losing their job for not doing it.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How would you know they were unvaccinated? "

^This ^

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?"

Exactly this. Stupid question

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston

Innoculation?

Yes..

Good, door on the left..one jab only.."

She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!

A newt?

I got the vaccine......

Winston

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters."

May want to check the Gov website on that as I did and it says that so long as you have had both doses of a two dose vaccine or one of a single dose vaccine you count as vaccinated for travel to the uk and mentions nothing about not having your booster meaning you are downgraded to unvaccinated.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston

Innoculation?

Yes..

Good, door on the left..one jab only..

She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!

A newt?

I got the vaccine......

Winston"

Such a treasure trove of classic writing..

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

It does not matter. Vaccinated or unvaccinated. I would not ask anyone or need to know. I really don't understand why some people are so scared of unvaccinated people. It's like they are from another planet.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters.

Forgot the link

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity.

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

"This is getting silly now "

It is very much. Some people have serious problem mentally.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston

Innoculation?

Yes..

Good, door on the left..one jab only..

She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!

A newt?

I got the vaccine......

Winston

Such a treasure trove of classic writing..

Absolutely. True classics......

I could watch the films over and over.

Some of the sketches, absolute genius.

By the way, got any naked pictures of your Mrs? Nudge nudge.....

Winston

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

If your medical professional had hep b for example… I bet you would be the 1st person asking the questions….

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"It does not matter. Vaccinated or unvaccinated. I would not ask anyone or need to know. I really don't understand why some people are so scared of unvaccinated people. It's like they are from another planet."

Let's be honest, the ones who are threatening teachers and NHS staff at vaccination hubs should be viewed with caution but they are a minority and I would suspect their actions are rightly condemned by the vast majority regardless if vaccination status..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

You wouldn't.

Well what was the point of the question then?

At times it's almost like an episode of Monty python in here, without the witty badinage and humorous anecdotes..

The Ministry of Silly Threads....

Winston

Nice one Centurion, like it..

Come on, come on, conjugate the verb....

Romanus, virus.......

Winston

Innoculation?

Yes..

Good, door on the left..one jab only..

She gave me the virus, it turned me into a newt!

A newt?

I got the vaccine......

Winston

Such a treasure trove of classic writing..

Absolutely. True classics......

I could watch the films over and over.

Some of the sketches, absolute genius.

By the way, got any naked pictures of your Mrs? Nudge nudge.....

Winston"

Remember watching life of Brian with our son who just roared with laughter..

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?"

Santa delivered a box of wooden spoons ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?

Santa delivered a box of wooden spoons ?"

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By *cottish_switchMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes.

If I need care I'm far more concerned about the qualifications & skills of the doctor, nurse or surgeon than I am about whether or not they've had a vaccine that doesn't actually prevent transmission of the virus anyway.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

Yes, I recently spent a time in hospital an day least two of the nurses looking after me were unvaccinated

I'll be honest the thought of am I happy about this did cross my mind but they were more at risk than I was & the fact that they were prepared to put their life on the line everyday to look after myself and others that were coming in via A&E so were not tested prior to entry - who am into complain

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By *ally dugsCouple
over a year ago

Motherwell

yes no problem as a vaxed nures can catch and spread this virus jabs dont stop you spreading it or catching it

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters.

Forgot the link

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters.

Forgot the link

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity.I meant the vaccines not boosters. I mixed them up there."
You are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Yes

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Yes I would, their vaccination status isnt important, remember that one is also counted unvaccinated if they dont keep up with the boosters.

Forgot the link

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination#:~:text=If%20you%20were%20vaccinated%20with,19%20and%20have%20natural%20immunity.I meant the vaccines not boosters. I mixed them up there.You are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after you get your second dose of a messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine, such as Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, or two weeks after a single dose of the Janssen/Johnson & Johnson vaccine."

Yup so you only need to have the initial vaccines not any boosters which means no matter how long this goes on you will still count as fully vaccinated even if there are boosters every 6 months so not really a problem so long as you have had one of the approved vaccines be it a single dose vaccine or double so long as you have had it even if you dont get the boosters and this will probably remain the same if they bring out new vaccines I would think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's turn it around. Quite a few peeps are unwilling or just think the vaccine does more harm. Their choice as far as I'm concerned. Would someone who is adamant not to have the vaccine (through medical exception or proven health risk if they were vaccinated) actually turn down help from a medical or doctor who has been jabbed?

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside

I personally couldn't care less if someone is vaccinated or not.

As my 88 year old neighbour put it the other day when I was taking her bin in for her "it's all getting a bit silly now this covid lark isn't it?" No doubt prompted by nurses who have been caring for her throughout to be losing their jobs soon.

I couldn't agree more with her. Especially if thousands of much needed NHS staff lose their jobs soon.

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By *iggstimpyCouple
over a year ago

South East

Couldn’t care less. If they where obese I’d have an issue if they started dishing out health advice but beyond that, not fussed.

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By *orty-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Leyland

I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!"

What question, the same one as the OP?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less.

In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me!

More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo!

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo!"

Dammit.

*wanders off muttering to himself about "fussy" people.

Winston

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"How would you know they were unvaccinated?

They'll have a tin foil hat, a false beard, a biohazard sticker on their lapel and be wearing sandals with socks..

I think..

For clarification most of that could be satirical..

I wouldn’t even talk, let alone be treated by, someone wearing a sandals and socks combo!"

Avoid Bournemouth..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

Yes, I would, because they will have tested anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question."
prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?"

It was to gauge opinion whether people would get treated/cared for by an unvaccinated nurse, doctor or surgeon.

Looking at the responses (to the question), the majority would get treated/cared for by an unvaccinated nurse, doctor or surgeon.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."
vaxxed or unvaxxed i wouldnt really care if i needed treatment,bet those who say no were out clapping drs and nurses and calling them all heros a cpl of years ago

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. "
you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest"

Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor."
so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Nope wouldnt give a hoot! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less.

In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me!

More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest."

Same

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

Being treated by a paramedic is very different from being treated by a doctor. I would not trust an anti vax doctor.so your telling me if u end up in hospital anx the only person available to treat you was unvaxxed you would rather not be treated?

That's not what OP asked

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people."

Do you have a link to this please? My understanding was that viral load in vaccinated and unvaccinated tends to be the same but the period of time the vaccinated are “contagious” is shorter than the unvaccinated. So the risk is being in their presence but that too is mitigated by the unvaccinated are more likely to have symptoms and know they are ill/have Covid and test/isolate.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people.

NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less.

In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me!

More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked"

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people.

NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this "

You need to totally qualify that statement. When you say “anti vax” do you include in that ALL people who have not had the vaccine (apart from on medical grounds)?

Total leap to assume anyone who hasn’t had the vaccine would not be prepared to take other risk mitigations.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

" I think all people who are not vaccinated should be working from home as they put other workers at more risk if they share work space, its time we stopped pussy footing round anti vaccine nuts. you do realise even the vaxxed are spreading it aswell as un vaxxed only thing i can see the vax doing is mabey keeping you out of hospital other than that its not stopping people catching covid or passing it on

Studies have shown reduced transmission between vaccinated people.

NO anti vax are nutters so they are more lightly to ignore symptoms & not isolate a certain tennis player is a good example of this "
and your evidence for them ignoring symptoms is what? And you do realise a lot of those not taking the covid shot have had all there other jabs just not this one so hardly anti vax,my oldest daughter hasnt taken one but i wouldnt say shes anti vax,shes not telling others not to have it or belittling those that have had it,shes just made a personal choice not to have this one as she had covid in november 2020 so she feels she dosent need it,but no doubt in your mind she should stay locked in doors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?"

"Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you?"

is very different from

"Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you if they were the only person available and you were dying".

A HEMS doctor is very different. Their job is immediate treatment, so their views on vaccination don't affect their ability to treat someone who's had a heart attack or a stab wound.

However if I had a long term illness I would not trust an anti vax doctor to take care of me. How can I trust someone to explore all avenues of treatment if they don't trust the work of the medical comminity?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?"

trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?

"Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you?"

is very different from

"Would you let an unvaccinated medical professional care for you if they were the only person available and you were dying".

A HEMS doctor is very different. Their job is immediate treatment, so their views on vaccination don't affect their ability to treat someone who's had a heart attack or a stab wound.

Interesting opinion.

What if he was the only doctor able/prepared to treat you?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?

trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative

Maybe you'd like to answer the question instead of just making petty comments.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?

trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative

Maybe you'd like to answer the question instead of just making petty comments.

"
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No pint as you just come out with some other fictitious scenario to keep the anti vax narrative going

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Nope, because it brings their views on other medical things into question.prettysure u would change your mind if you was laying there bleeding out or suffering a cardiac arrest

That's not what OP asked

The thread title stated medical professional.

I left paramedics (and other specialist roles) off the list.

Would you get treated by a HEMS doctor?

trying to find any little scenario to fit a narrative

Maybe you'd like to answer the question instead of just making petty comments.

No pint as you just come out with some other fictitious scenario to keep the anti vax narrative going

That's a shame.

I'd have thought you of all people would have had an opinion on being treated by unvaccinated medical professionals.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

The salient question is this: Would you let an unvaccinated person feed you with a spoon, while saying ‘open the station gates so the train can arrive, choo choo! Choo choo! Choo choo!’

Makes you think, eh? Always question the narrative people!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."
id actualy pref an unvaxed person

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By *orty-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Leyland

"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!"

Same question. It was in reply to a previous post on another thread.

Selective sensoring I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I asked the same question on another post and got a 24hr WTF!

Same question. It was in reply to a previous post on another thread.

Selective sensoring I guess

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By *orkGuyFunGuyMan
over a year ago

Cork

We are about 6 months or so away from this being in the same class as common cold and flu.

Ridiculous it’s gone on this long

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year

Just shows it's all virtue signaling

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

"Yes

Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year

Just shows it's all virtue signaling "

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Yes

Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year

Just shows it's all virtue signaling "

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

At the point of requiring medical attention I suspect someones vaccine status would be low on my list of priorities, do I think that they should be vaccinated - yes

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple
over a year ago

North fife

Yes i would as they are tested.

As far as I am concerned tests trump vaccine assurances and always will.

As an example if tests were not required for vaxed staff I would refuse to be treated by them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Amazing that some of you are so happy to just sack off the very same people you where outside clapping for just last year

Indeed.

It goes some way to explain why so many of the 'lockdown/vaccine enthusiasts' were unable to give a simple yes/no answer.

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By *panddaCouple
over a year ago

West Mids

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

I think if you genuinely needed professional medical advice or surgery you would not have an issue.

You could always decline it and suffer.

What is the purpose of this thread other than to be noticed?"

Exactly this.

In our opinion just to get attention.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

Yes I would, it wouldn’t make a difference to me if they’re jabbed or not

Miss pc

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over a year ago

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

They would probably have to wear a mask now or in some cases pre covid. Never known of a surgeon operating on someone without a mask

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Fine by me

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By *ustSomeDarkieMan
over a year ago

Salford

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

Yes why not.

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By *erlins5Man
over a year ago

South Fife

I really can't see what difference it would make

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By *elkieWoman
over a year ago

Durham

I have a problem with the idea of my taxes being used to pay compensation for an unvaccinated medical professional who contracted covid at work and suffered lasting ill effects. I have a problem with the fact that trusts are declaring major incidents because so many people are off sick with covid. I have a problem with the fact that the NHS is grinding to a standstill and people are dying needlessly. It’s not about me contracting it. It’s about the bigger picture.

And if I had a confirmed or suspected covid infection, I would not want to be cared for by an unvaccinated professional.

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

"As long as they are testing negative I couldn’t care less.

In fact (testing regime aside) as an unvaccinated person is more likely to develop symptoms and therefore more likely to know they have Covid and take action, they are actually arguably safer for me!

More worried by a complacent asymptomatic vaccinated person to be honest."

100% what she said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab."

Well said only 9.5% of people over 12 are completely unvaccinated in the UK. A shrinking vocal minority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab."

Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things

I'll wait

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab.

Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things

I'll wait"

I don't think anyone has called you an anti vaxxer. I wouldn't call someone who chooses not to have a vaccine one. An anti vaxxer is some who spouts, usually false information, about how the covid or other vaccines. Vaccines in general are the most important medical breakthrough in human history, apart from clean water. You choose not to have a vaccine fine just don`t repeat made up stuff to others to justify it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab.

Can you please explain how I am an anti vaxxer when I have had two Pfizer jabs please? Also other Jabs for other things

I'll wait

The person was insinuating I was

seeing as I am the only one in this thread to bring up virtue signaling which was referred to in her post

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"The whole purpose of threads like this is so anti vax people can gather together and pat themselves on the back, in an attempt to appear as the more rational person.

Insert something about virtue signalling (their favourite new phrase) to top it off.

Given over 70% of the UK have had two doses, they are very much in the minority despite how it appears on fab."

What about those of us who are fully vaccinated but continue to have concerns, would ideally have waited longer before having the vaccines so we had long term data, and are therefore continuing to ask questions or challenge the narrative and continue to defend the right of personal choice.

There’s no patting on the back. There is challenging nonsense being spouted by people on both extreme sides. Many people are in the middle and just trying to have a more rounded view.

As I posted near the top, it is completely spurious to say you only want to be treated by someone vaccinated until, if ever, the vaccine actually stops infection and stops transmission. All that matters in this scenario is regular testing.

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By *AURA6969TV/TS
over a year ago

RUGBY

Yes because they are more at risk from covid than me that is fully vaccinated.

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By *ap AdgeMan
over a year ago

Wirral

Yes

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By *ap AdgeMan
over a year ago

Wirral

23 million in uk (42 percent) have caught CoV Sars 2 some experts a more well rounded imunune response than vaccination ,the number that have been infected have been substantial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn’t bother me! It’s not like being vaccinated means you can’t spread covid!

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freedom of choice and bodily autonomy are not concepts we are willing to entertain anyone. Simple question, when the virus evolves into a mild illness will you still demand vaccines. If your freedom means nothing to you fine. But restrictive laws DON'T go way just because the problem does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt."

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact

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By *opsy RogersWoman
over a year ago

London

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact"

Sharps incidents are common.

Many people get bent out of shape over HIV when they simply don't need to, just like they do over covid.

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By *elkieWoman
over a year ago

Durham

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact

Sharps incidents are common.

Many people get bent out of shape over HIV when they simply don't need to, just like they do over covid."

It wasn’t until 2013 that the guidance was changed allowing practitioners with HIV to work in any area of the NHS. Prior to that, most of them took medical retirement. Given that we’re currently only two years into this pandemic and not seventeen, history isn’t supporting your point.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact"

Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"?

Cal

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact

Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"?

Cal"

well for one AIDS is a specific thing and is late stage HIV infection. If your not on meds you are dead within 3 years on average

"Current antiretroviral therapy (ART) does not cure HIV infection but highly suppresses viral replication within a person's body and allows an individual's immune system recovery to strengthen and regain the capacity to fight off opportunistic infections and some cancers.

Since 2016, WHO has recommended that all people living with HIV be provided with lifelong ART, including children, adolescents, adults and pregnant and breastfeeding women, regardless of clinical status or CD4 cell count.

By June 2021, 187 countries had already adopted this recommendation, covering 99% of all people living with HIV globally"

what i meant was the medication can prevent the spread from somone infected. Certain meds now show 0 viral load

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I would and even the kiss of life if need be,what's up with people alot have been affected in the mind unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would be willing to be cared for by someone with HIV?

Nobody knows my vaccine status and if I were still working as a Midwife, they still wouldnt.

Seeing as most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of HIV especially if they worked in the medical field

Plus at what point would somone with HIV be able to spread it to me while in care? You need like blood to blood contact

Where do you get the idea that "most people will be on drugs that stop the transmission of AIDS"?

Cal

well for one AIDS is a specific thing and is late stage HIV infection. If your not on meds you are dead within 3 years on average

By June 2021, 187 countries had already adopted this recommendation, covering 99% of all people living with HIV globally"

what i meant was the medication can prevent the spread from somone infected. Certain meds now show 0 viral load

Tbh

why are we even comparing HIV to Covid

its apples and oranges

thats like trying to say its the same as Rabies or CWD which has a 100% mortality rate

not 1% like covid when treated in the uk. Even the worst is only 6%

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By *1llyMan
over a year ago

bath

Wouldn't bother me vaccine don't stop you catching or passing on the virus not sure why so many act like it does....

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

Yes I would let an unvaccinated health professional treat me. As a health professional, they will be well tested, will be following good hygiene (hand washing etc), and following other precautions, so low risk to me.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

"Wouldn't bother me vaccine don't stop you catching or passing on the virus not sure why so many act like it does...."

Vaccine reduces the chances of catching the virus and reduces the chances of passing it on.

Does it completely work? No. But it helps. Still need other safety precautions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. I couldn't careless.

I came out from hospital a year and a day ago from COVID. Were they all vaccinated then? No.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames

I find some of the comparisons with aids quite odd.

There are some similarities, but nobody caught aids by simply being in the same room as an infected person. Really not the same thing

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Wouldn't bother me vaccine don't stop you catching or passing on the virus not sure why so many act like it does....

Vaccine reduces the chances of catching the virus and reduces the chances of passing it on.

Does it completely work? No. But it helps. Still need other safety precautions "

Confess to being “datered out” (is that a thing) and starting to switch off a bit but...

Are you sure the “vaccine reduces the chance of catching the virus”? There may be new evidence but I thought it reduced the likelihood of developing serious symptoms not stopped you catching it?

Also the “reduces the chances of passing it on” is tied to the points on serious symptoms and period of time someone is able to spread. My understanding (could be out of date) is that the viral load is the same vaccinated or unvaccinated but duration of time being infectious was less in vaccinated?

Then we also need to play in the severity of symptoms again as someone vaccinated but with little/no symptoms is actually likely to spread more (albeit over shorter period) than someone unvaccinated with worse symptoms who stays home isolating because they are ill.

As I said, I could be behind the curve on this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would not being vaccinated affect their ability to treat you?

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By *otplumMan
over a year ago

Margate

I too could not care less. Vaccinated or not their ability would still be the same

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not."

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?"

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

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By *ity_BoyMan
over a year ago

London

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?"

Aaaand the mask is off. It only took 130 odd replies

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."

Treat and care it's a funny way to describe because if a person has been vaccinated they have done this for the treatment and care of others.so how can it be classified as them providing treatment for care

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence."

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

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over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point."

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

They are doing their job - treating and caring for people.

How would you describe what they are doing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

They are doing their job - treating and caring for people.

How would you describe what they are doing?"

People have been vaccinated for the care of others so they don't need treatment which would be unnecessary actions speak louder

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is?"

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?"

Not sure what your implying, but my answer was plain enough. Unvaccinated is fine, a medical professional publicly exhibiting anti vax or conspiracy theory traits is not.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is?

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights"

Precisely, but desperate to support a failing agenda

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status."
if you were very ill and rushed into hospital would you ask to see everyone's covid jab card to see if they were upto date

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is?

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights"

Wearing badges is irrelevant to a medical professional's ability to do their job.

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

It might well be relevant to a vulnerable patients mental wellbeing whereas a symbol of solidarity for the lgbt community wouldn't.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

They are doing their job - treating and caring for people.

How would you describe what they are doing?

People have been vaccinated for the care of others so they don't need treatment which would be unnecessary actions speak louder"

Can you add “some” to the beginning of that sentence!

I know people who ONLY had the vaccine so they could go on holiday. I also know plenty of people who only had the vaccine to protect themselves. I also know plenty of people who are virtue signalling and trying to make out their primary driver was societal reasons and neither of the above.

So yeah “some people...”

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By *G CoupleCouple
over a year ago

kent

Would I let an unvaccinated person treat me..... Yes

Would I let someone with the virus treat me..... If my life depended on it yes.

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By *elkieWoman
over a year ago

Durham

"Would you let a medical professional - doctor, nurse, surgeon - treat or care for you?

Personally I don't have a problem with somebody's vaccination status.

Provided they test negative at the start of each shift and are competent in the treatment they would be administering then yes.

If they turned up wearing an "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge on their uniform then probably not.

What if they turned up wearing a rainbow lanyard and pronouns on their name badge?

Why would either be relevant to this (or any) discussion?

I'm not interested if I'm treated by a he, she or they. I'm only interested in their competence.

It isn't relevant. Just as someone turning up wearing a "I'm anti vax" or "Covid isn't real" badge, or a purple ribbon isn't relevant.

That was the point.

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

So a purple ribbon is not allowed but a rainbow ribbon is?

Anti vax and covid denial is not equivalent to supporting LGBT rights

Wearing badges is irrelevant to a medical professional's ability to do their job."

It isn’t. The purpose of a pronoun badge, especially for cisgender professionals, is to make patients feel more comfortable discussing their own pronouns, and to express care for LGBT+ patients. And making patients feel comfortable and cared for is LITERALLY the job.