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"The Lib Dems just won a seat the Tories had held for nearly two hundred years." In a bi election. It will be back with the Tories in a general election (unfortunately) | |||
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"The Lib Dems just won a seat the Tories had held for nearly two hundred years. In a bi election. It will be back with the Tories in a general election (unfortunately)" But if Lib Dems took 15 or 20 seats off Tories and Labour did the same no one would have majority.. then we'd be proper screwed even more so than now. | |||
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"The Lib Dems just won a seat the Tories had held for nearly two hundred years. In a bi election. It will be back with the Tories in a general election (unfortunately) That wouldn’t happen, but if it was to happen we’d just have a Labour/lib dem coalition, greens could even get involved. It would be interesting, unfortunately still think they’d get in though. But if Lib Dems took 15 or 20 seats off Tories and Labour did the same no one would have majority.. then we'd be proper screwed even more so than now." | |||
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"If an Election was called now would Boris/Tories win? Surely they have pissed so many people off that we'd end up with another Coalition? Not one party would have enough seats to hold power on their own. Tories, would lose votes due to its handling of Covid. Labour, would not win enough seats back afrer the drubbing they took in last election. Lib Dems, well.. least said bout them.. Just my thoughts.. not that of any News outlet.. ready for abuse that will come now. Accusations of being a Southern Tory" Labour won't win a majority without Scottish MPs and they won't be winning them for the time being | |||
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"If an Election was called now would Boris/Tories win? Surely they have pissed so many people off that we'd end up with another Coalition? Not one party would have enough seats to hold power on their own. Tories, would lose votes due to its handling of Covid. Labour, would not win enough seats back afrer the drubbing they took in last election. Lib Dems, well.. least said bout them.. Just my thoughts.. not that of any News outlet.. ready for abuse that will come now. Accusations of being a Southern Tory" So is thinking if No No walks 1. Would terisa may step up in the short term. 2. If Boris goes should all that where at the meeting in the garden go so about 25 to 50 locked up for braking the law. 3.if the Tory party do lose a large number it would need an elections 4. Is it not time to change the hole system to propositional representation. That way every vote realy dose count. | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. " Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth." The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth." For i think the first time i find myself wholeheartedly agreeing with you. FPTP is open to abuse as whoever is in power re-draws boundaries to their benefit. My constituancy being one example of a staunchly Labour industrial town split in half by the boundary comission with some rural villages now in it and voila a Conservative MP. Too big a majority is in efect an elected dictatorship doing as it pleases with nobody able to hold it to account. Anyone noticed the new law that enables ministers to ignore finding of the supreme court and judicial enquiries. thats worrying. | |||
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"The Lib Dems just won a seat the Tories had held for nearly two hundred years." protest vote...doubt libss would hold it at GE, not when you look at the local press compared to national soundbites | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. " US Dystem os set up to allow Gridlock as so iften happems the so called separation of powers becomes nothing more than a battle of wills..then any Executive Order is ultimately under scrutiny | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. US System is set up to allow Gridlock. So often the so called separation of powers becomes nothing more than a battle of wills..then any Executive Order is ultimately under scrutiny" | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. " Swings and roundabouts. If a majority of people in the UK are aligned politically then that will return a majority through PR. If there is no majority alignment of the people then there is no authority for a majority in Govt. Just my opinion obviously! | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. For i think the first time i find myself wholeheartedly agreeing with you. FPTP is open to abuse as whoever is in power re-draws boundaries to their benefit. My constituancy being one example of a staunchly Labour industrial town split in half by the boundary comission with some rural villages now in it and voila a Conservative MP. Too big a majority is in efect an elected dictatorship doing as it pleases with nobody able to hold it to account. Anyone noticed the new law that enables ministers to ignore finding of the supreme court and judicial enquiries. thats worrying." That’s poor behaviour! You should be agreeing with me all the time 
Ha just goes to show that binary arguments, tribalism and assumptions about the venn diagram of viewpoints can be challenged! | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. Swings and roundabouts. If a majority of people in the UK are aligned politically then that will return a majority through PR. If there is no majority alignment of the people then there is no authority for a majority in Govt. Just my opinion obviously!" Just to add - our system has allowed an unassailable 80 seat majority with a significant minority vote. It’s a ludicrous situation. | |||
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"If an Election was called now would Boris/Tories win? Surely they have pissed so many people off that we'd end up with another Coalition? Not one party would have enough seats to hold power on their own. Tories, would lose votes due to its handling of Covid. Labour, would not win enough seats back afrer the drubbing they took in last election. Lib Dems, well.. least said bout them.. Just my thoughts.. not that of any News outlet.. ready for abuse that will come now. Accusations of being a Southern Tory So is thinking if No No walks 1. Would terisa may step up in the short term. 2. If Boris goes should all that where at the meeting in the garden go so about 25 to 50 locked up for braking the law. 3.if the Tory party do lose a large number it would need an elections 4. Is it not time to change the hole system to propositional representation. That way every vote realy dose count. " if they want a chance of winning the next election they will keep theresa may as far away from the front benches as they can,she had her chance in the job and was shown to be way out of her depth | |||
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" Need to change our not fit for purpose voting system whoever might win and the priority for Labour/Lib dems etc etc is to do a pact to get the con jobs out and then change the system ?? as how in the hell can a party who got only 44% of votes cast be allowed to cause so much short and long term damage to our country ?? "you realy think labour would change the system lol fptp helps them into power to,few years or torys few years of labour and repeat why would they change to a system that may see them always having to do deals,those on the front benches in any party just wannt power the great unwashed come a far second | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. Swings and roundabouts. If a majority of people in the UK are aligned politically then that will return a majority through PR. If there is no majority alignment of the people then there is no authority for a majority in Govt. Just my opinion obviously! Just to add - our system has allowed an unassailable 80 seat majority with a significant minority vote. It’s a ludicrous situation. " It has a majority but even with that majority the government needed cross party support to get covid restrictions through parliament and the threat of defeat delayed / stopped further restrictions. Interestingly if Proportional Representation was in place the results from the 2019 election would have took 77 seats from the Conservatives, Labour gain 10 and the real winner would have been Lib / Dem with a gain of 59. The conservatives would have won the election but parliament would have been in the hands of the others. Damned if you do damned if you don't. | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. Swings and roundabouts. If a majority of people in the UK are aligned politically then that will return a majority through PR. If there is no majority alignment of the people then there is no authority for a majority in Govt. Just my opinion obviously! Just to add - our system has allowed an unassailable 80 seat majority with a significant minority vote. It’s a ludicrous situation. It has a majority but even with that majority the government needed cross party support to get covid restrictions through parliament and the threat of defeat delayed / stopped further restrictions. Interestingly if Proportional Representation was in place the results from the 2019 election would have took 77 seats from the Conservatives, Labour gain 10 and the real winner would have been Lib / Dem with a gain of 59. The conservatives would have won the election but parliament would have been in the hands of the others. Damned if you do damned if you don't. " Clearly we have different viewpoints (which in my book is a good thing - progress comes from challenge not status quo) but the government should reflect the people and what matters to them. They are supposed to serve us lol!!!!! | |||
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"The trouble is there has been a political consensus about the handling of coronavirus so there is no choice for voters. The only 'choice' has been between the Conservative lockdown, restrictions, vaccines etc...and the 'more, greater, more severe' urgings of other parties. The parties have stuck together like sheep in closing their minds to any alternative. Public anger is growing at this...and at the similar consensus/political cowardice on display on matters such as energy prices, Net Zero etc. Expect to see a slow but steady move to other parties challenging this nonsense" So there will be a shift to the lefties that oppose lockdowns, restrictions and vaccines? What parties are they then? There is consensus on the big parts of the covid response for good reasons. Look around the world and you will see very similar strategies. | |||
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"If an Election was called now would Boris/Tories win? Surely they have pissed so many people off that we'd end up with another Coalition? Not one party would have enough seats to hold power on their own. YES even more so if the tories got rid of boris and got a proper strong leader labour only have another dickhead in charge who wanted everyone in this country to have 1 jab and wanted to give all other doses to 3rd world countries,, i wonder what our death rate would have been then Tories, would lose votes due to its handling of Covid. Labour, would not win enough seats back afrer the drubbing they took in last election. Lib Dems, well.. least said bout them.. Just my thoughts.. not that of any News outlet.. ready for abuse that will come now. Accusations of being a Southern Tory"   | |||
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"Starmer has a lot of friends in high places. Watch a lot of the media shift to his side once the path to an election starts. I think Labour are in next. But time will tell." Labour need to sort themselves out and decide who/what they are before they will gain ground. With the tories having a shocker, it’s an open goal, but labour still look like they are in turmoil and don’t know what they represent | |||
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"Starmer has a lot of friends in high places. Watch a lot of the media shift to his side once the path to an election starts. I think Labour are in next. But time will tell. Labour need to sort themselves out and decide who/what they are before they will gain ground. With the tories having a shocker, it’s an open goal, but labour still look like they are in turmoil and don’t know what they represent " Agreed. Should indeed be an open goal! | |||
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"Starmer has a lot of friends in high places. Watch a lot of the media shift to his side once the path to an election starts. I think Labour are in next. But time will tell. Labour need to sort themselves out and decide who/what they are before they will gain ground. With the tories having a shocker, it’s an open goal, but labour still look like they are in turmoil and don’t know what they represent " The media will as always have a massive role to play in deciding who gets elected. Rightly or wrongly the media were never going to help Corbyn and to a lesser extent Milliband. Things will be very different on that front next time | |||
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" Need to change our not fit for purpose voting system whoever might win and the priority for Labour/Lib dems etc etc is to do a pact to get the con jobs out and then change the system ?? as how in the hell can a party who got only 44% of votes cast be allowed to cause so much short and long term damage to our country ?? "You want to try being Welsh or Scottish... We have never voted for Torys, yet we are usually governed by them. The whole system is a farce and there is no appetite from Torys or Labour to change the system becuase it maintains the status quo. | |||
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"Right now, an election this week. Probably a Tory win with a very small majority. 6 months, Covid behind us, folks back on holiday, spending in shops, back to work, a few EU concessions and a few other crumbs cast out of the ministerial car window. A Tory win but no landslide. I suppose its understanding the mindset of those Labour voters who jumped ship to Conservative in the last election. Was it EU, dissatisfied with labour party / leader or just fed up and decided on a change. It will be an interesting time post Covid, it's as if once Covid goes, Utopia returns, I think not. "they didnt really jump ship to the torys,the tory vote didnt go up that much in those seats its labour lost loads and a big chunk of those went to the brexit party and a lot of there remain voters went lib dem as labour didnt know wether they were coming or going as far as the question about the eu was concerned,the torys may be shit but u know what they stand for as for labour no one still has a clue what there about and no im not a tory just saying how i see it | |||
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"Labour lost a lot of seats at the last election as people voted to keep Boris in to see Brexit through. That landscape has long changed, I would love to see where those voters would put their X now. In my opinion it could go either way but not by the margin a government could govern without grovelling to the back benches and alternative parties and that could be a far worse position for stability that we have now. Only my opinion but I think “stability” (ie a govt with an unassailable majority) is overrated and ultimately leads to high levels of corruption and creates an ideological bulldozer for policy making. I think compromise is actually a good thing. Balance is a good thing. I also think the myth of constituency politics needs to be washed away and replace FPTP with Proportional Representation. Just the other day a Tory MP lost the conservative whip for voting against the Govt (fuel poverty issue) in the interests of her constituents. She is now an independent. As I said, the constituency argument for retaining FPTP is a myth. The argument is that without a majority nothing ever gets done, Obama was a perfect example of this. The back benches and fringe parties start to shape our society as a government makes deals and that in my opinion is governance by an unelected group. Our setup may not be great but it is what we have for now. Swings and roundabouts. If a majority of people in the UK are aligned politically then that will return a majority through PR. If there is no majority alignment of the people then there is no authority for a majority in Govt. Just my opinion obviously! Just to add - our system has allowed an unassailable 80 seat majority with a significant minority vote. It’s a ludicrous situation. It has a majority but even with that majority the government needed cross party support to get covid restrictions through parliament and the threat of defeat delayed / stopped further restrictions. Interestingly if Proportional Representation was in place the results from the 2019 election would have took 77 seats from the Conservatives, Labour gain 10 and the real winner would have been Lib / Dem with a gain of 59. The conservatives would have won the election but parliament would have been in the hands of the others. Damned if you do damned if you don't. Clearly we have different viewpoints (which in my book is a good thing - progress comes from challenge not status quo) but the government should reflect the people and what matters to them. They are supposed to serve us lol!!!!!" My mind is open to change, a better run country is a winner for all but I'm not seeing how proportional representation would change what we have now for the better. The conservative party would have still took the majority in 2019 under PR, although that swing was due to a shift in labour votes. Taking that majority as a best case scenario it would indicate that the rest (all other parties than the elected party) would always have more combined seats than the majority party. How would this work when it came to policy and law changes? | |||
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"If an Election was called now would Boris/Tories win? Surely they have pissed so many people off that we'd end up with another Coalition? Not one party would have enough seats to hold power on their own. Tories, would lose votes due to its handling of Covid. Labour, would not win enough seats back afrer the drubbing they took in last election. Lib Dems, well.. least said bout them.. Just my thoughts.. not that of any News outlet.. ready for abuse that will come now. Accusations of being a Southern Tory" No idea but I couldn’t think of anything worse than Labour taking the reins | |||
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"Starmer has a lot of friends in high places. Watch a lot of the media shift to his side once the path to an election starts. I think Labour are in next. But time will tell." With what policies? I don't know what he stands for. He is full of after-the-event wisdom, hence the nickname Captain Hindsight. They have generally wanted more restrictions, whereas Tories got the vaccines programme spot on and were right with Plan B. The increasingly preposterous Wes Streeting of Labour then perversely tried to argue the Tories should have followed USA, with the cut to 5 days quarantine, much sooner! They were catastrophically all over the place on Brexit and toyed with the idea of a far Left anti Semitic, IRA sympathising, commie in power just a over 2 years ago. New super slick Kier fully supported this guy, but would prefer you forgot this but many will take years to get over it. I would guess Conservatives back in with 40 to 60 seat majority if next week, another 70 to 80 seat majority if 2024 election and evidence of levelling up is growing, cost of living rises are falling back and iron grip on much less sleaze etc | |||
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"Starmer has a lot of friends in high places. Watch a lot of the media shift to his side once the path to an election starts. I think Labour are in next. But time will tell. With what policies? I don't know what he stands for. He is full of after-the-event wisdom, hence the nickname Captain Hindsight. They have generally wanted more restrictions, whereas Tories got the vaccines programme spot on and were right with Plan B. The increasingly preposterous Wes Streeting of Labour then perversely tried to argue the Tories should have followed USA, with the cut to 5 days quarantine, much sooner! They were catastrophically all over the place on Brexit and toyed with the idea of a far Left anti Semitic, IRA sympathising, commie in power just a over 2 years ago. New super slick Kier fully supported this guy, but would prefer you forgot this but many will take years to get over it. I would guess Conservatives back in with 40 to 60 seat majority if next week, another 70 to 80 seat majority if 2024 election and evidence of levelling up is growing, cost of living rises are falling back and iron grip on much less sleaze etc " cost of living rises falling back? Really! For the life of me I can’t see the cost of household fuel bills falling back and predictions are they will rise further! Inflation is at its highest in many years and wage increases not getting close to matching that, so is it not the opposite to falling back? Yes maybe we do forget things about KS and JC from two years ago but you obviously have a very selective memory as you have forgotten stuff about BJ just in the last week. For the record I’m not a Labour Party supporter but just had to comment on such a rose tinted opinion | |||
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"And I just had to comment on such a gloomy outlook! I actually wrote 'if 2024 election and evidence of cost of living rises are falling back' In other words, of course they are going to shoot up in 2022 and 2023,but then (hopefully) fall back. Government needs to provide relief to consumers and companies struggling with a cash flow crunch in the face of elevated global supply prices. If they do, plenty of industry experts think prices will fall back in late 23/early 24. " no problem but it has gone from “evidence” of cost of living falling back to now hopefully | |||
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