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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands

So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening

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By *.D.I.D.A.SMan
over a year ago

London/Essex... ish... Romford to be exact

I tried to get some tests from Boots but they were all gone after twenty mins from two different stores. I have a few tests left in one box but saving those for if symptoms appear. I think it's inevitable most of us will catch covid at some point thus the government will achieve its aim of herd immunity. If I develop symptoms and have no test available then I'll go to a test centre but otherwise I won't test regularly, cos I probably can't get due to a lack of test kits. Most people I know don't test often besides my neighbour who is a nurse and a colleague who insists on commuting daily to the office as he cannot work his IT competently at home.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'd wait for other indicators of disease and follow advice, although obviously it'd be lagging and there'd be less ability to judge immediate risk to self and others.

As I'm risk averse, I'd probably bin any outside activity where I couldn't leave my mask on, and be very glad I work from home.

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By *perfectpair5050Couple
over a year ago

marlbourgh


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "
. And of course the hospitals will stop filling up because we’re not testing anymore and it’s not being reported Great idea

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?"

Nope. My mums vulnerable, and tri jabbed, and fed up with it all herself. If i feel shit, i will stsy home, just like i wouldve done 26 months ago. Ffs, theyve spoke of bringing isolation to 5 days anyway, so what is the point if thats the case.

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening "

Exactly this, and if everyone did it with the few that are really ill, compared to the majority with no signs then thered be no fear.

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening

Exactly this, and if everyone did it with the few that are really ill, compared to the majority with no signs then thered be no fear. "

Im glad I test daily as tested friday night 18 30 negative tested Saturday 15 00 positive now isolating no symptoms touch wood but doesn't mean if I pass it on to someone else they wouldn't be the same but ignorance is bless hey

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening

Exactly this, and if everyone did it with the few that are really ill, compared to the majority with no signs then thered be no fear.

Im glad I test daily as tested friday night 18 30 negative tested Saturday 15 00 positive now isolating no symptoms touch wood but doesn't mean if I pass it on to someone else they wouldn't be the same but ignorance is bless hey "

If everyone is ignorant of the fact then yes, it would be bliss. Thered be no panic, nurses could still work the same as before vax, and the country would run as normal. People be absent from work as per before, some be in hospital, as per before. But scaremongering media woukd have to find sumat else to report on.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality. "

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore"

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up "

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples"

5 days since when?? It still 10 unless test negative on days 6 and 7 so people need to keep up with currant data

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

5 days since when?? It still 10 unless test negative on days 6 and 7 so people need to keep up with currant data "

The CDC is saying 5 now the UK are considering it. Whether it's wise or not is another matter. Infections still have knock on effects

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By *rmrs3535Couple
over a year ago

East Yorks


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?"
We never have and we never will. Really people.....!? Wake Up for your own sakes..!!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

5 days since when?? It still 10 unless test negative on days 6 and 7 so people need to keep up with currant data

The CDC is saying 5 now the UK are considering it. Whether it's wise or not is another matter. Infections still have knock on effects"

Scotland is not considering it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

5 days since when?? It still 10 unless test negative on days 6 and 7 so people need to keep up with currant data

The CDC is saying 5 now the UK are considering it. Whether it's wise or not is another matter. Infections still have knock on effects

Scotland is not considering it."

Apologies, yes, too easy in England to conflate.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples"

Most people don't take time off for a cold though so unless everyone stops work when they get a sniffle your plan is flawed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples"

5 days is in America, CDC is American and if you care to read up on it their 5 days starts the day after your positive PCR result, whereas in England it starts from the day after your first symptom or your positive test result.

By in large depending on when an American takes and gets their test results could actually be longer than we have in England.

I mention England as I don't know the current rules for Scotland, Wales and Ireland

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

Most people don't take time off for a cold though so unless everyone stops work when they get a sniffle your plan is flawed."

I did say if it was a heavy cold, not just a snuffle here and there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?

Nope. My mums vulnerable, and tri jabbed, and fed up with it all herself. If i feel shit, i will stsy home, just like i wouldve done 26 months ago. Ffs, theyve spoke of bringing isolation to 5 days anyway, so what is the point if thats the case. "

If staff in the health sector stopped testing and your mum went in hospital or to the gp surgery for whatever reason would you both be ok with her contacting covid and the issues it could bring ?

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?

Nope. My mums vulnerable, and tri jabbed, and fed up with it all herself. If i feel shit, i will stsy home, just like i wouldve done 26 months ago. Ffs, theyve spoke of bringing isolation to 5 days anyway, so what is the point if thats the case.

If staff in the health sector stopped testing and your mum went in hospital or to the gp surgery for whatever reason would you both be ok with her contacting covid and the issues it could bring ?"

She can get it popping for a pint of milk, so theres no difference in where its picked up from, but she could also get hit by a bus. Life is full of risk no matter what you do

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?

Nope. My mums vulnerable, and tri jabbed, and fed up with it all herself. If i feel shit, i will stsy home, just like i wouldve done 26 months ago. Ffs, theyve spoke of bringing isolation to 5 days anyway, so what is the point if thats the case.

If staff in the health sector stopped testing and your mum went in hospital or to the gp surgery for whatever reason would you both be ok with her contacting covid and the issues it could bring ?

She can get it popping for a pint of milk, so theres no difference in where its picked up from, but she could also get hit by a bus. Life is full of risk no matter what you do"

Does your mother know how heartless you are ?

Most of us would die to protect our mothers.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

Pro-choice so good on you we only have the 2 jabs as made ill the first time and very ill the next one.

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening "

There are bigger kill out there than covid but no one is say You must stop smoking because if you do not your not allowed to leave the house or drink another Big kill it's time to see the wood for the trees covid has been awful but it's now coming to an end let it go if and if you what to protect yourself you have take personal responsibility to look after your own health..

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

As long as we keep testing so

often the figures will always be high, it's time we we lived with covid and deal with it when and only if death rates are high! At the moment death rates are very low so we need to get on with life. I'm not being uncompassionate to people that have lost loved ones but these are times we need to go through.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That comment about being heartless is out of order and shows what a person will do to others who do not share the same view.

I never wear masks, or test and I will never go for another jab that is over for me now.

When the leader of this country is shown sorry admits wrongdoing, when my family members are dying and I couldn't see them, or bury them.

His has been told this, and he is still in office, he won't resign, instead he clings to power disgusting.

All this covid stuff means nothing to me anymore, no matter what the powers that be decree in the future, I will lead my life, if others want to stay home, take tests or whatever they feel they need to feel safe its cool with me.

Plus isolation is now five days that's official, the narrative is changing "living with covid" is starting to trend as peoples attitudes to covid change, people are awaking, and the powers have to change to keep power.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"As long as we keep testing so

often the figures will always be high, it's time we we lived with covid and deal with it when and only if death rates are high! At the moment death rates are very low so we need to get on with life. I'm not being uncompassionate to people that have lost loved ones but these are times we need to go through."

Several hundred people died of Covid yesterday. They're high, just not catastrophic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "
what colour is the sky in your world?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

I suppose technically, people die due to respiratory distress. Low O2 sats due to their lungs being damaged both by the virus and the immune response in an attempt to eradicate the cells infected by the virus.

That's not what you meant though, is it?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

Damn, that means the two funerals I’ve been to where my friends have died OF COVID must have been faked.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

Then perhaps you should take your own advice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply. "

Oh dear

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

Are you taking over from Sir JVT?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

Fact end of.

Stop testing for cancer = no more cancer.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it"

Which is why the 28 day figure has barely passed 150k and the ONS death certificate figure is at the much tinier number of 175k

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it

Which is why the 28 day figure has barely passed 150k and the ONS death certificate figure is at the much tinier number of 175k "

The first time the government was told off the ONS said, from memory, that 30,000 had died instead of the claimed 34,500.

Less than a week later the ONS looked at the figures again and said the disparity was bigger than they originally claimed.

If the ONS knows how to add up it means the official figure is approx 15-20% bigger than it should be.

Any intelligent person would ask why we are being misled. Only a fool would blindly trust the official narrative

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it

Which is why the 28 day figure has barely passed 150k and the ONS death certificate figure is at the much tinier number of 175k

The first time the government was told off the ONS said, from memory, that 30,000 had died instead of the claimed 34,500.

Less than a week later the ONS looked at the figures again and said the disparity was bigger than they originally claimed.

If the ONS knows how to add up it means the official figure is approx 15-20% bigger than it should be.

Any intelligent person would ask why we are being misled. Only a fool would blindly trust the official narrative"

I'm quite happy sticking to the datasets that we use for any other cause of death.

If implying that I'm naive, stupid, or following an evil agenda gets your rocks off, by all means go ahead, but evidence doesn't disappear because someone shouts "agenda" at it.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it

Which is why the 28 day figure has barely passed 150k and the ONS death certificate figure is at the much tinier number of 175k

The first time the government was told off the ONS said, from memory, that 30,000 had died instead of the claimed 34,500.

Less than a week later the ONS looked at the figures again and said the disparity was bigger than they originally claimed.

If the ONS knows how to add up it means the official figure is approx 15-20% bigger than it should be.

Any intelligent person would ask why we are being misled. Only a fool would blindly trust the official narrative"

Ah, so you're saying that everything is perfectly okay if instead of having a fuck ton of deaths, we've only got 85% of a fuck ton of deaths. It absolutely does not matter how you count it, whether it's within 28 days, whether it's with covid or of covid, whether the result comes out 10% higher or 10% lower. The basic truth is that there are FAR TOO MANY people that are dead now who would still be alive if there had been a better response to the virus from government and people.

We are currently getting nearly 400 deaths a day because of the fact that covid is absolutely rampant in this country. I am absolutely certain that you will now correct me and say "actually it was only 398 people yesterday, which is nothing like 400, and on the 7 day average it was only 246". Yeah I'm sure that 246 every day for a week (averaged) is perfectly fine, nothing to worry about at all. After all that's barely another 90 thousand a year (oh sorry, 89790, my bad, so much much less than 90000).

Oh I'd better remove both the people who got hit by buses after getting a positive LFT result, plus the guy who's parachute failed to open. So that's only 89787, much better eh? The truth is that the numbers vary slightly depending on who does the accounting because it just isn't always possible to be totally certain of the fundamental underlying reason for every single death. Each official body that performs a count has some slightly different procedure, there will always be some individual deaths that are counted one way by one process, another way by another process.

When the twin towers were attacked, there were according to one official count 2996 deaths. A different method of counting said 2977. In any case there must have been a couple of those who would have died of natural causes anyway within a day or two. So maybe it should only be 2975 deaths counted, not 2996, so that's alright. Why are we being lied to? How can we possibly trust anyone if it wasn't really 2996 deaths? Maybe we should just ignore the whole event, because obviously some of those people only died WITH the towers falling, not OF the towers falling. The ones who had pre-existing conditions and couldn't get down the stairs to escape, obviously they shouldn't be counted. The ones who stayed and tried to help others, we should discount them also. And the rescue workers that died, it was their own fault for going in there.

However you look at it, however you massage the figures, whether our government is exaggerating the figures or minimising the figures, whether it is with covid or of covid. The fact that cannot be avoided is that the only possible answer to the question "how many deaths have been caused by covid" is FAR TOO MANY.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very true OP, and that's the way it's heading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply. "

So am I correct in understanding that you need an operation but won't have it because of a PCR test ?

Would you say the same if the pre op team asked you to take a blood test ?

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By *renchFantasyCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Every let's just block this idiot. I'll go first.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply. "

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

If nobody took a test, then nobody would know what illness they had and receive the appropriate treatment.

Should they not take a test for any illness?

If nobody took a test then they wouldn't know that they were spreading a potentially fatal disease.

Should people spread potentially fatal diseases if it can be avoided?

If nobody tested, Covid would still exist, we just wouldn't know how widely and who were most succeptible.

Should we allow the most vulnerable to become ill?

You will do a test for you own benefit but no one else's.

Is society better if people only behave selfishly?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. what colour is the sky in your world?"

Grey and filled with chemtrails. Exactly the same as yours but you're oblivious to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I suppose technically, people die due to respiratory distress. Low O2 sats due to their lungs being damaged both by the virus and the immune response in an attempt to eradicate the cells infected by the virus.

That's not what you meant though, is it?"

Absolutely not but you seem to be a scientist/specialist in the subject... Another listening to absolute twoddle on the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle."

People die, they always have. Fit healthy people it's nature. The majority of people who die are over weight, smokers, drinkers ect. Or underlying health issues. Death rates in 2019 were higher than 2020 through the so called worse pandemic ever. Open your eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I suppose technically, people die due to respiratory distress. Low O2 sats due to their lungs being damaged both by the virus and the immune response in an attempt to eradicate the cells infected by the virus.

That's not what you meant though, is it?

Absolutely not but you seem to be a scientist/specialist in the subject... Another listening to absolute twoddle on the news. "

Where do you get your information from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deffo not the same place you do.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

People die, they always have. Fit healthy people it's nature. The majority of people who die are over weight, smokers, drinkers ect. Or underlying health issues. Death rates in 2019 were higher than 2020 through the so called worse pandemic ever. Open your eyes. "

I'm capable of reading and interpreting data, thank you.

I thought there was nothing more to say if I didn't agree with you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply.

So am I correct in understanding that you need an operation but won't have it because of a PCR test ?

Would you say the same if the pre op team asked you to take a blood test ?"

Apples and pears really, taking blood it taking something out. Taking a test is having something stuck in my nose and throat, aside the fact I have no faith in it’s reliability.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Not taken one test and have up until now refused to do so regardless of needing an operation. Being forced to test for an illness when one isn’t presenting themselves with any indications of such illnesses is beyond my understanding and desire to comply.

So am I correct in understanding that you need an operation but won't have it because of a PCR test ?

Would you say the same if the pre op team asked you to take a blood test ?

Apples and pears really, taking blood it taking something out. Taking a test is having something stuck in my nose and throat, aside the fact I have no faith in it’s reliability. "

How do you think they get blood out of you, by magic?

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. what colour is the sky in your world?

Grey and filled with chemtrails. Exactly the same as yours but you're oblivious to it. "

As in Jerry Maguire, You had me at Chemtrails.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

People die, they always have. Fit healthy people it's nature. The majority of people who die are over weight, smokers, drinkers ect. Or underlying health issues. Death rates in 2019 were higher than 2020 through the so called worse pandemic ever. Open your eyes. "

Not sure where you get your “facts”. This was taken from the ONS report on deaths in England and Wales for 2020;

In 2020, there were 607,922 deaths registered in England and Wales; an increase of 14.5% compared with 2019 (530,841 deaths).

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By *perfectpair5050Couple
over a year ago

marlbourgh


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "
. I think I can get my head round the fact you don’t know what you’re talking about why would you say something like that when so many people have lost loved ones

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it"

Actually in all the slides that witty and van tam show in the press briefings, they show you the difference between WITH and OF, and the daily highlighted figure you see on the news is the OF figure

Actually the ONS released the yearly figures for 2021 last week.. and there were 3 that stood out…

The figures of those people who died WITH covid was roughly around 175,000, the figures of those people who died OF covid was 120,000…. And the figures for expected deaths was 100,000 above average!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The ONS has told the government twice now (I actually think it's three times) that the figures have been exaggerated. The 'with covid' as opposed to 'of covid' is a large part of this disparity.

People have been pointing out the of/with confusion for about 18 months now so I'm surprised so many people are still entirely unaware of it

Actually in all the slides that witty and van tam show in the press briefings, they show you the difference between WITH and OF, and the daily highlighted figure you see on the news is the OF figure

Actually the ONS released the yearly figures for 2021 last week.. and there were 3 that stood out…

The figures of those people who died WITH covid was roughly around 175,000, the figures of those people who died OF covid was 120,000…. And the figures for expected deaths was 100,000 above average!"

Yes, it's not the ones continually repeating "with not of" who need to be told

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ? We never have and we never will. Really people.....!? Wake Up for your own sakes..!!"

Is it that some people need to wake up or perhaps it is that there are some who still need to wise up.

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By *renchFantasyCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Some of these posts are disgusting and I am shocked by the blatant disregard for other people's health. Regardless of age, sex, weight, health conditions, nobody deserve to die from what is controllable by people just wearing a mask and taking medicine.

Grow up and do your f'ing part.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

But I don't take a few days off of I feel just run down because my companies sick policy will penalise me for doing this. At present if I'm made to self Isolate by the rules then it doesn't count towards my sick triggers. Keep the tests to stop me getting sick warnings

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples"

You'd take 5 days off work with a cold?! Lightweight!

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By *hitehunter4bbcMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

You'd take 5 days off work with a cold?! Lightweight! "
exactly this

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Would you do a test before meeting elderly relatives or going to a party ?

Nope. My mums vulnerable, and tri jabbed, and fed up with it all herself. If i feel shit, i will stsy home, just like i wouldve done 26 months ago. Ffs, theyve spoke of bringing isolation to 5 days anyway, so what is the point if thats the case.

If staff in the health sector stopped testing and your mum went in hospital or to the gp surgery for whatever reason would you both be ok with her contacting covid and the issues it could bring ?

She can get it popping for a pint of milk, so theres no difference in where its picked up from, but she could also get hit by a bus. Life is full of risk no matter what you do

Does your mother know how heartless you are ?

Most of us would die to protect our mothers."

She agrees with me. Did you not read my other posts

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By *iker boy 69 OP   Man
over a year ago

midlands


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

Fact end of.

Stop testing for cancer = no more cancer.

"

Everyone i know who has had cancer have had symptoms, so tested to see whats wrong. What world have we ever tested for a bug that we may have thsts not making us ill, and has a low % fatality rate. The reason for staff shortages is testing and folk off work when theyre pefectly able to go to work

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Some of these posts are disgusting and I am shocked by the blatant disregard for other people's health. Regardless of age, sex, weight, health conditions, nobody deserve to die from what is controllable by people just wearing a mask and taking medicine.

Grow up and do your f'ing part."

Exactly this

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

Fact end of.

Stop testing for cancer = no more cancer.

Everyone i know who has had cancer have had symptoms, so tested to see whats wrong. What world have we ever tested for a bug that we may have thsts not making us ill, and has a low % fatality rate. The reason for staff shortages is testing and folk off work when theyre pefectly able to go to work"

So we should stop looking for lumps? Stop mammograms and smear tests? Stop screening for STDs? No symptoms, totes fine.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

Donald Trump stated, you only have cases if you test. Stop testing and the cases vanish.

Scientists wouldn't agree, plus how can you protect others if you are oblivious..

I test twice a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle."

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true. "

ok. I don't buy that twaddle either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true.

ok. I don't buy that twaddle either."

You won't buy it, because its common sense instead of what you're told by the corrupt governments. We're all entitled to our own opinions

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true.

ok. I don't buy that twaddle either.

You won't buy it, because its common sense instead of what you're told by the corrupt governments. We're all entitled to our own opinions "

I am entitled to my own opinion, and I find it fascinating that you claim to know how I believe what I believe. I also find it fascinating that everyone who thinks that others are sheep seem to be following... a script?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true.

ok. I don't buy that twaddle either.

You won't buy it, because its common sense instead of what you're told by the corrupt governments. We're all entitled to our own opinions

I am entitled to my own opinion, and I find it fascinating that you claim to know how I believe what I believe. I also find it fascinating that everyone who thinks that others are sheep seem to be following... a script?"

I never mentioned a sheep? Now that's twoddle

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true. "
sorry but this is very much not the case.

Flu maybe the one exception as who would have thought that by following measures designed to keep covid cases down we would have helped to avoid flu season too.

And people have died of covid... sadly I've lost to many friends and relatives to it

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By *ocket rocket 2021Woman
over a year ago

Farnworth


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday.

A) glad you don’t go to clubs….

B) not taking test doesn’t mean it’s goes away… that’s a bit like sticking your fingers in your ears screaming la la la I’m not listening "

Well he did say that he's triple jabbed and not all clubs are requiring a test prior to entry so your point is?

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By *ocket rocket 2021Woman
over a year ago

Farnworth


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

Most people don't take time off for a cold though so unless everyone stops work when they get a sniffle your plan is flawed.

I did say if it was a heavy cold, not just a snuffle here and there"

So would you have stayed off work 3 years ago with a cold?

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

Most people don't take time off for a cold though so unless everyone stops work when they get a sniffle your plan is flawed.

I did say if it was a heavy cold, not just a snuffle here and there

So would you have stayed off work 3 years ago with a cold?"

Objection your honour, irrelevant.

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By *ocket rocket 2021Woman
over a year ago

Farnworth


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

Most people don't take time off for a cold though so unless everyone stops work when they get a sniffle your plan is flawed.

I did say if it was a heavy cold, not just a snuffle here and there

So would you have stayed off work 3 years ago with a cold?

Objection your honour, irrelevant."

Overruled

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Would I have stayed off work 3yrs ago with a cold/heavy cold? I'd have liked to often, to be honest, but there was no tolerance for such absences. I've been say (historically) in meetings with people coughing and blowing their noses, silently wishing I could put them in a containment chamber. Of course, masks were not de rigour back then.

Now we have Teams and other means to meet virtually (and teach virtually), I'd much rather people with any type of respiratory disease stayed and worked at home. This is perfectly possible in the workplace I attend.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say.

I'm sorry I don't buy your twaddle.

So what's happened to flu cases, heart attacks, cancer deaths?? Miraculously dissappeared?? Oh that's right, they don't exist anymore because the exaggerated figures show deaths to be covid. Mad really but very very true. "

Heart attack, cancer and other death rates are similar, except for those of diseases transmitted in a similar manner to Covid, such as Flu, which has been reduced by the same measures.

Are you aware of excess deaths and what this figure means?

The actual answer to your assertion is that the deaths are completely logical unless you believe that people have been making up the deaths of their family members.

That is quite a thing to say. That is what you are saying. You understand that, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ignorance can be a short term bliss for some.

I'd prefer a well managed crisis situation and all of us to be well cared for and not thrown to the dogs, because it seemed like a simple idea to ignore reality.

The fact is, weve been fed that many different messages about this, that no one knows what reality is anymore

It pretty clear test positive then isolate think that somes it up

1st it was x amount of days, now its down to 5 days. So 5 days is what id have off with a bad heavy cold so no different, so no need to test. Simples

5 days since when?? It still 10 unless test negative on days 6 and 7 so people need to keep up with currant data

The CDC is saying 5 now the UK are considering it. Whether it's wise or not is another matter. Infections still have knock on effects

Scotland is not considering it."

Nicola is going to fall in line behind Boris and cut isolation from 10 days to 7…..

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By *uckfunCouple
over a year ago

North Coast


"I tried to get some tests from Boots but they were all gone after twenty mins from two different stores. I have a few tests left in one box but saving those for if symptoms appear. I think it's inevitable most of us will catch covid at some point thus the government will achieve its aim of herd immunity. If I develop symptoms and have no test available then I'll go to a test centre but otherwise I won't test regularly, cos I probably can't get due to a lack of test kits. Most people I know don't test often besides my neighbour who is a nurse and a colleague who insists on commuting daily to the office as he cannot work his IT competently at home. "

Everytime I request test kits online they arrive within 2 days, do it that way instead of going to boots

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By *uscious_lips30Woman
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Just saying you can order tests online and get them delivered within 24 hours. I’ve ordered 3 packs this week.

I test for work, going to see friends, if I go out, rugby matches. If I’m negative before going anywhere then if I test positive then I can pin point where I’ve been

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By *he force is strongeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere

We tested positive for covid last year,we where sick but no need to go to hospital,at this time I had both my jabs cazz had only one jab and I was actually worse than cazz,this last week we had the same symptoms we went to a testing center and the next day our results came back negative.

Personally we don't trust the LFT we know way to many people who have had false readings we would rather get a proper test, 4 people where I work who I have had close contact with have tested positive on the LFT,just like to say I do where a mask when at work or shopping.

My work place will no longer let you use your holidays to cover you if you are off with covid,we did the right thing by going and getting a test but now we are being penalised and lost two days pay.

I don't think covid will disappear I belive it is something we will have to live with like colds or the flu.

This is only my opinion we still take precautions and would not want to be responsible for spreading covid,cold or flu

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By *ayarMan
over a year ago

Wirral

What will happen if they start charging for tests ?

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Think you know the answer to that already...

Unless close family at risk, few will bother.

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By *asons_CarounnCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"People don't die of covid they die with covid. If you can't get your heads round that there's nothing more to say. "

I work in CRITICAL CARE ON A COVID WARD!!!

Please explain to me with your vast depth of medical knowledge and virology degree what these people are dying of??

Please come to the ward and view chest x-rays and tell me what is wrong with these patients if it’s not Covid.

Please tell me what I should tell people who are recovering from Covid after being some of the sickest patients we have ever kept alive what they are suffering from!

Please tell me why I’m protecting myself by having 3 jabs and wearing full PPE to treat patients.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Until the hospitals started filling up and people started dying again eh? What an avsured comment

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"So, if everyone stopped taking tests, and doing as youd do if you felt run down, such as a few days off work, wrapped under the duvet, the media would have no figures to report on. Thus, the scare mongering would be gone, and gradually folk woukd crack on doing what they do. Before i get the whip, im triple jabbed, but wont be having another. Ive never done a test, and will only do one if needed for my holiday. "

I still go dancing I visit my mum and stepdad 85 and 90 respectively I just got back from a dance weekender in Budapest. I test regularly before and two days after.

Ignoring testing won't make covid go away.

Oh well done yiur irresponsible attitude has probably killed your chances of getting a meet

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

Threads like this are great for getting absolute dangers to out themselves.

We're on a website all about meeting up with people to have sex with them. It's actually really useful to find out who a) *still* doesn't understand what "asymptomatic" means, and b) doesn't give a flying fuck about the health of other people.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Threads like this are great for getting absolute dangers to out themselves.

We're on a website all about meeting up with people to have sex with them. It's actually really useful to find out who a) *still* doesn't understand what "asymptomatic" means, and b) doesn't give a flying fuck about the health of other people.

"

It sure does make the block list grow

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