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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Serious Djokin', no vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference.

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By *ragoniteMan
over a year ago

Cheshire

It was a bad call to try to exempt him on some tenuous medical grounds just because he was a big name.

His arrogance and entitlement has come back to bite him on the arse.

Novax Djocovid (I nicked that one!)

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. "

This. ^

Winston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You gotta love it, the arrogant sh@t will be spitting feathers and no doubt saying "do they know who I am". Yeah, a vax dodger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done Australia for sticking to their rules.

You just know that England would let him in

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Doesnt meet entry a countries requirements?

Country denies entry.

Exactly as it should be.

Someone remind me whose tennis tournament was a spreader event earlier in the pandemic?

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people."

I was thinking Novak OnYourBikeovic.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"It was a bad call to try to exempt him on some tenuous medical grounds just because he was a big name.

His arrogance and entitlement has come back to bite him on the arse.

Novax Djocovid (I nicked that one!) "

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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

I thought he said he wouldn't be playing a few weeks ago..

I'm guessing either sponsors tennis authorities leant some pressure to allow his exempt status the state / gov't issued a visa.

He travelled seems theres been a lot of noise fall out from public media etc following his visa issuing seems the politicians changed their minds (most unlike politicians) following the fall out.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

He's now resident in a basic Melbourne quarantine hotel, pending a court hearing on Monday.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"He's now resident in a basic Melbourne quarantine hotel, pending a court hearing on Monday. "

I’m sure he is ordering enough shite to make it as pleasant as possible

After all the sponsors are paying

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

He's not called No-Vac for nothing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good on the Government. Sticking to their word. We can't allow the rules bent and have Covid potentially spreading.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well done Australia, for saying “there should be no special rules for Novak Djokovic at all...”

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think he's still there and his lawyers are fighting the decision.

Can't see Australia allowing the decision to be overturned as it would set a precedent for others.

Bad PR imo.... should accept and go home....damage limitation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good on the Government. Sticking to their word. We can't allow the rules bent and have Covid potentially spreading."

Australia recorded its highest daily cases yesterday despite having some of the most draconian restrictions in the world.

The vaccinated are spreading omicron just as much as the unvaccinated, and if tennis players have to take a test before they travel and are then kept in bubbles etc., how is it allowing COVID to spread?

I've never particularly liked Djokovic as a player but good on him for taking a stand on this.

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

Worse thing is I bet he will get to play and win so he can then give us the finger lol

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham

Couple of things here. He's not the only player have been granted an exemption but as far as I can see he's the only one awaiting deportation. Also, a matter of days ago, the Aussie PM said this was a decision to be made at state level. The state of Victoria said he could come, the PM then stepped in. Don't get me wrong, I agree with the current decision but there seem to be inconsistencies. If this was going on here, the PM would be getting slated, not applauded I suspect

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I heard that he got his paperwork wrong.

Typically, the PM has gone from being pleased that he'll be allowed to play to pleased that the laws are being upheld. Went from following the money to realising an election is coming up - not worth pissing off the population at the moment (where he can avoid it).

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesnt meet entry a countries requirements?

Country denies entry.

Exactly as it should be.

Someone remind me whose tennis tournament was a spreader event earlier in the pandemic? "

Maybe he was hoping to spread it again there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

Their country, their rules

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By *ipvanwinkieMan
over a year ago

out of town!

Maybe he should be allowed to stay and compete, but he has to play in full PPE

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

You are wrong in your appraisal. I don't need to tell you what is wrong you already know but choose to keep delivering the same misinformation time and time again.

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

I didn’t think it had anything to do with his exemption. But he filled in the wrong visa application?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Their country, their rules "

Australia has exercised its sovereignty.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"He's not called No-Vac for nothing!"

He’ll always been known as ‘No-Vax’ from now on

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London


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Australia recorded its highest daily cases yesterday despite having some of the most draconian restrictions in the world.

The vaccinated are spreading omicron just as much as the unvaccinated, and if tennis players have to take a test before they travel and are then kept in bubbles etc., how is it allowing COVID to spread?

"

You say that despite these draconian measures, they have high levels of disease? So your thinking is, let Novak in? and then I suppose they might as well cancel all the measures as they don't seem to work anyway.

Ever thought that the levels might be higher without the measures been enforced? Or the vaccine isn't there to stop vaccinated people from catching Omnicron.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. "
maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL "

He has the right not to be vaccinated. Australia has the right to refuse him entry. His FREE WILL does not trump their law. Simple isnt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL

He has the right not to be vaccinated. Australia has the right to refuse him entry. His FREE WILL does not trump their law. Simple isnt it. "

Yep, exactly

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL

He has the right not to be vaccinated. Australia has the right to refuse him entry. His FREE WILL does not trump their law. Simple isnt it. "

Exactly this and this is what people need to understand the free will to choose is fine but choices have consequences that they will have to live with, it's still totally thier choice to no have the vaccine but they will just have to live with the consequences of wanting to exercise thier free will and right to choose. And before there is any mention of it no I dont have a problem with those that have a genuine medical reason not to have the vaccine also those in that minority are generally not affected by any of the restrictions being put in place for unvaccinated people.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

If his paperwork was in order then he would have been ok but maybe the exemption was fake

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By *orsetCouple777Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

Medvedev is now the best player in the world. Hope this doesn't overshadow him winning back to back slams..

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!! "

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!! "

You should consider contacting his legal team for Monday's court case, pretty sure his representative wouldn't have considered such a claim..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

You should consider contacting his legal team for Monday's court case, pretty sure his representative wouldn't have considered such a claim..

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law."

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL "

I'm not privy to the details of Australian immigration law. As a citizen, I don't have to be. My right of entry are more or less sacrosanct.

As someone entering Australia, he would have had to have been aware of the law, or had staff who were aware. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Law is not science, it is how society believes it should operate. That obviously changes with circumstances.

How interesting! He fucked around and he found out. Lol

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By *otswoldguy911Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL

I'm not privy to the details of Australian immigration law. As a citizen, I don't have to be. My right of entry are more or less sacrosanct.

As someone entering Australia, he would have had to have been aware of the law, or had staff who were aware. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Law is not science, it is how society believes it should operate. That obviously changes with circumstances.

How interesting! He fucked around and he found out. Lol"

Thanks for confirming you are biased and have no idea what your talking about good day

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL

I'm not privy to the details of Australian immigration law. As a citizen, I don't have to be. My right of entry are more or less sacrosanct.

As someone entering Australia, he would have had to have been aware of the law, or had staff who were aware. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Law is not science, it is how society believes it should operate. That obviously changes with circumstances.

How interesting! He fucked around and he found out. Lol

Thanks for confirming you are biased and have no idea what your talking about good day "

What, believing that law applies to everyone?

I'm afraid law applies to antivaxxers, freedumb fighters and bold noble independent researchers just as it does to anyone else, no matter how loudly they wet themselves.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!! "

He had covid in June 2020, are you sure he still has antibodies? Having once had covid does not make a person immune to covid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Totally correct judgement but I don't understand why he'd want to go I agree with him that he doesn't have to share is medical history but if said county want let you in then why bother im baffled.

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By *mooth tongue 4uMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Hats off to the Aussies

Well done for throwing him out !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

Nice bit of fat shaming there!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

You are wrong in your appraisal. I don't need to tell you what is wrong you already know but choose to keep delivering the same misinformation time and time again. "

Exactly! You’re not immune if you’ve had it, I know multiple people who’ve had it multiple times!

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed. No problem having ppl follow their own paths but seems unfair that they can bend the rules to suit their own purposes.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

"

Seems that's against his right to medical privacy. Hmm. Imagine the doctrines being entirely incoherent. "I refuse to tell any of you if I've had a routine vaccination, but here's details only relevant to me to get around the consequences of not disclosing something much less private!"

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By *ryan...Man
over a year ago

1950's Original

I just asked Google

"Where is Novak Djokovic staying"?

Google replied "Server cannot be found"

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I just asked Google

"Where is Novak Djokovic staying"?

Google replied "Server cannot be found" "

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL "

Every competitor could have exercised their free will to refuse to play him, on the grounds of a potential unfair advantage he has, by being unvaccinated.....

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

Seems that's against his right to medical privacy. Hmm. Imagine the doctrines being entirely incoherent. "I refuse to tell any of you if I've had a routine vaccination, but here's details only relevant to me to get around the consequences of not disclosing something much less private!"

"

Sitting it out for 4 days for a court to decide in the spotlight of the worlds media is a strange move. I can't workout if he is arrogant or if he is ignorant, he is certainly not well informed and could have made this so much easier for himself.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL

I'm not privy to the details of Australian immigration law. As a citizen, I don't have to be. My right of entry are more or less sacrosanct.

As someone entering Australia, he would have had to have been aware of the law, or had staff who were aware. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

Law is not science, it is how society believes it should operate. That obviously changes with circumstances.

How interesting! He fucked around and he found out. Lol

Thanks for confirming you are biased and have no idea what your talking about good day "

Truly the irony is strong ..

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By *enny PR9TV/TS
over a year ago

Southport

His wife is a certifiable 5g crackpot too, go figure.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

Seems that's against his right to medical privacy. Hmm. Imagine the doctrines being entirely incoherent. "I refuse to tell any of you if I've had a routine vaccination, but here's details only relevant to me to get around the consequences of not disclosing something much less private!"

Sitting it out for 4 days for a court to decide in the spotlight of the worlds media is a strange move. I can't workout if he is arrogant or if he is ignorant, he is certainly not well informed and could have made this so much easier for himself.

"

Martyr for attention.

Can't say how it'll play outside Australia. In Australia, there are very broad vaccine mandates. I know people who had to choose between professional jobs or their desire not to be vaccinated. I'm sure they'll be *absolutely delighted* that they had to put their bodies on the line with what they believe to be poison - but the rich and famous don't have to. Their movement won't stand up for them, but it will stand up for the powerful - because it's all about bringing life back to normal and standing up for ordinary people

In addition to the dissatisfaction of the unwillingly vaccinated in Australia, I'm sure that upholding strong immigration law (in a country that has continually escalated its immigration laws since at least 2001) can only be a strength for the standing coalition (right of centre) government. And *cough* there's a federal election this year. Totally not on Scotty's mind at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL "

And Australia is using their freedom of choice to not let him in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!! "

So tell me how the law that says the UK Monarch can't be a Roman Catholic is scientific. Or is it just possible that laws can be made independent of science?

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

You've got to hand it to Australian authorities. They terrify people, lock them in their homes, deny them basic human rights, make future life and freedom contingent on submitting to mandates & then manage to convince those people that Djokovic is the bad guy! The same guy who 2 years ago was raising funds for victims of bushfires.

There are also alleged inconsistencies in play here - by some accounts 25 tennis players applied for a medical exemption to compete and 15 were granted. 3 of those are reported to have already entered Australia on the same visa Djokovic had.

I’m sure once the authorities realise it’s just an admin error he’ll be free to compete - unless of course there’s a different agenda in play here?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"You've got to hand it to Australian authorities. They terrify people, lock them in their homes, deny them basic human rights, make future life and freedom contingent on submitting to mandates & then manage to convince those people that Djokovic is the bad guy! The same guy who 2 years ago was raising funds for victims of bushfires.

There are also alleged inconsistencies in play here - by some accounts 25 tennis players applied for a medical exemption to compete and 15 were granted. 3 of those are reported to have already entered Australia on the same visa Djokovic had.

I’m sure once the authorities realise it’s just an admin error he’ll be free to compete - unless of course there’s a different agenda in play here? "

Or they had the correct paperwork and vaccine exemption

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!! "

Law does not have to be aligned with science to be legally enforceable. It just has to be passed into Law by an appropriate body. You do not have to agree with a Law for you to be subject to it. So our argument is not flawed.

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By *orkiebar51Man
over a year ago

Keighley

Lost you foil cap?

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By *ilver Fox 60Man
over a year ago

Southport

At least he can't now be a poster boy (and I stress 'boy') for the unvaccinated.

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By *uds1Couple
over a year ago

lanark

One word...FANNY...

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"One word...FANNY..."

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By *ornwallkink2017Couple
over a year ago

Cornwall


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

You should consider contacting his legal team for Monday's court case, pretty sure his representative wouldn't have considered such a claim..

"

Love it! We can crowdfund the air fair, but you need to be vaccinated to get a visa!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion."

I agree with the outcome, but he should never have been given the exemption in the first place and should not have been able to travel. Ended up a bit of an unnecessary circus having him arrive, ne rejected, be detained and sent back. Shambles.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

So tell me how the law that says the UK Monarch can't be a Roman Catholic is scientific. Or is it just possible that laws can be made independent of science? "

Good example. Law does not have to be based on science. Often isn’t. No idea why the poster thought law has to be based on science

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You've got to hand it to Australian authorities. They terrify people, lock them in their homes, deny them basic human rights, make future life and freedom contingent on submitting to mandates & then manage to convince those people that Djokovic is the bad guy! The same guy who 2 years ago was raising funds for victims of bushfires.

There are also alleged inconsistencies in play here - by some accounts 25 tennis players applied for a medical exemption to compete and 15 were granted. 3 of those are reported to have already entered Australia on the same visa Djokovic had.

I’m sure once the authorities realise it’s just an admin error he’ll be free to compete - unless of course there’s a different agenda in play here? "

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

I knew he was a bit eccentric and anti vax but reading about his beliefs mostly pre covid he is absolute fruit cake. Funniest theory he had was Chemically changing water and food with your emotions.

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston"

He does not want to hear things like that

It’s not inline with his narrative

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

He does not want to hear things like that

It’s not inline with his narrative

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

He does not want to hear things like that

It’s not inline with his narrative

"

now now play nice .... you should know that speaking contrary to the 'narrative' is a class 1 herasy and will invoke much gnashing of teeth and smashing of keyboards. Shame on you for such blasphemy. No doubt direct messages will be forthcoming commenting on your resemblance to a small Austrian guy with a black moustache and a global domination complex

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston"

I think it might be an example of mumbo jumbo

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By *utcock61Man
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Ok discuss the posts not the poster please

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston"

Exactly. Turn up somewhere like Australia without having your ducks in a row, and you’re fucked

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over a year ago


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

Exactly. Turn up somewhere like Australia without having your ducks in a row, and you’re fucked"

Exactly this we might not agree the rules in certain countries however if we choose to go we need to respect them.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Ros Atkins has produced one of his 4 minute explainers on the matter - worth a watch.

Available to view on various outlets/platforms

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

He told people to fk off? I missed that bit. When did he do that? Before or after he made a balls of his visa docs?

And Scott Morrison is obese?

To me, this looks pretty simple. The Australians have clearly laid out the criteria for getting into their country, as is their right, and if you, I, or Novak don’t comply, we aren’t getting in.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

Exactly. Turn up somewhere like Australia without having your ducks in a row, and you’re fucked

Exactly this we might not agree the rules in certain countries however if we choose to go we need to respect them. "

Absolutely. If you don’t like a country or don’t like their rules, don’t go there. If you don’t want to adhere to their rules, don’t go. For example, some golfers refuse to compete in Saudi. And perhaps depp, heard and their doggies should not have gone to Australia a few years back

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

Exactly. Turn up somewhere like Australia without having your ducks in a row, and you’re fucked

Exactly this we might not agree the rules in certain countries however if we choose to go we need to respect them. "

Absolutely.

Their country, their rules.

Like a lot of things, it's really quite simple.

Winston

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Ros Atkins has produced one of his 4 minute explainers on the matter - worth a watch.

Available to view on various outlets/platforms "

His stuff in general is good, lays an issue out clear and succinctly..

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Ros Atkins has produced one of his 4 minute explainers on the matter - worth a watch.

Available to view on various outlets/platforms

His stuff in general is good, lays an issue out clear and succinctly.."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wish the England Ashes team had been refused entry.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable …

Baring in mind this has more to do with Australia's immigration laws than it does Covid, and baring in mind Australia's immigration laws and requirements for entry into their country were pointed out to you at least twice in your Novax thread yesterday, I'm not sure what you don't understand about this situation.

Winston

Exactly. Turn up somewhere like Australia without having your ducks in a row, and you’re fucked

Exactly this we might not agree the rules in certain countries however if we choose to go we need to respect them.

Absolutely.

Their country, their rules.

Like a lot of things, it's really quite simple.

Winston"

It was silly to take anything else for granted, when it comes to entering another country

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules"."

To what end?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules"."

I doubt it.

Firstly, the granting / rescinding of the exemption makes them look like a bunch of amateurs.

Secondly, the constant changes of message on whose call it was to let him in or not also made them look like a nonchalant of amateurs.

And thirdly, they have managed to make a lot of people angry ... their own citizens for appearing to be giving in to someone because he is famous, and then the people of Serbia for pissing Novak about.

Not exactly a PR win. If they wanted to look strong on the subject he would be have made it onto the plane in Dubai.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules"."

Nobody is covering themselves in any glory here. Its certainly been politicised massively. Its not because it has any clinical need as look at all of the other sports that take place where not all participants are jabbed up. Then there's the "rules is rules"... Yep they sure are. Not sure even aus are mandating vaccines are they? They'll both manage without eachother. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

Nobody is covering themselves in any glory here. Its certainly been politicised massively. Its not because it has any clinical need as look at all of the other sports that take place where not all participants are jabbed up. Then there's the "rules is rules"... Yep they sure are. Not sure even aus are mandating vaccines are they? They'll both manage without eachother. Move along. Nothing to see here. "

No I don’t think Australians have mandatory vaccines, but proof of vaccinations is mandatory for visitors to the country.

I’m sure the actual facts will come out in the next few days, but right now it looks like a complete shambles.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

To what end? "

There’s an election on the not too distant horizon - there’s your end

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"To everyone saying it’s the law … it’s a law that doesn’t align with “the science” so your argument is flawed …

He has had COVID he has anti body’s just like some one who is vaccinated !!!

I'm afraid that Australian immigration law doesn't give a toss about the science.

There are requirements. He didn't meet them. Australia exercises its sovereignty.

Too bad, how sad, antibodies don't override immigration law.

Ah so last time when he won the tournament his status was fine … but now there some magical issue not linked to His vaccine status ? How interesting LOL "

I love it when people think they are being clever by writing stuff like this without having any clue about what the rules were…..

See… because there was no vaccine at the time of planning for last years Australian open, what the government made everyone do who wanted to compete was that everyone had to spend 14 days in a government run quarantine hotel on arrival before basically being let in….

He did it like everyone else…. He complained and threatened not to turn up, funny enough he said he should not have to do quarantine because he had already had it…. Government said “no exceptions!” but he eventually did back down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't stand Tennis, so don't care.

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By *d6869Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"Good on the Government. Sticking to their word. We can't allow the rules bent and have Covid potentially spreading.

Australia recorded its highest daily cases yesterday despite having some of the most draconian restrictions in the world.

The vaccinated are spreading omicron just as much as the unvaccinated, and if tennis players have to take a test before they travel and are then kept in bubbles etc., how is it allowing COVID to spread?

I've never particularly liked Djokovic as a player but good on him for taking a stand on this."

I agree, the government knew they weren’t going to let him now, political bullshit

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

To what end?

There’s an election on the not too distant horizon - there’s your end "

And you think that a really amateurish ballsup like this will improve election prospects? Seriously?

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Ros Atkins has produced one of his 4 minute explainers on the matter - worth a watch.

Available to view on various outlets/platforms

His stuff in general is good, lays an issue out clear and succinctly..

"

… and now a Part 2 has been released

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Good on the Government. Sticking to their word. We can't allow the rules bent and have Covid potentially spreading.

Australia recorded its highest daily cases yesterday despite having some of the most draconian restrictions in the world.

The vaccinated are spreading omicron just as much as the unvaccinated, and if tennis players have to take a test before they travel and are then kept in bubbles etc., how is it allowing COVID to spread?

I've never particularly liked Djokovic as a player but good on him for taking a stand on this.

I agree, the government knew they weren’t going to let him now, political bullshit"

Looks more like the tournament organisers wanted to get him in somehow, government agreed to help them fudge it and then lost their nerve when the people of the country reacted badly.

A ballsup all round. He wouldn’t have got on the plane in dubai if he didn’t think it was all sorted.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke though.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

To what end?

There’s an election on the not too distant horizon - there’s your end

And you think that a really amateurish ballsup like this will improve election prospects? Seriously? "

Might distract from the rapid test clusterfuck.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

To what end?

There’s an election on the not too distant horizon - there’s your end

And you think that a really amateurish ballsup like this will improve election prospects? Seriously?

Might distract from the rapid test clusterfuck."

So cover one ballsup by creating another? Doesn’t sound like a brilliant plan. Man United board perhaps?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

To what end?

There’s an election on the not too distant horizon - there’s your end

And you think that a really amateurish ballsup like this will improve election prospects? Seriously?

Might distract from the rapid test clusterfuck.

So cover one ballsup by creating another? Doesn’t sound like a brilliant plan. Man United board perhaps? "

Lol, you've not plumbed the depths until you've looked at the Australian federal coalition.

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By *aulnextMan
over a year ago

Hoar Cross Staffordshire

Tell that to my healthy unvaccinated neighbour who held similar views and died on Dec 24 . A healthy 49 year old with similar ignorance.

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By *uteLittleGeekWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules"."

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity.

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By *ake and ScribbleCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity. "

No, it's nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with rules and requirements of entry into their country.

It's really that simple.

Trying to make it into something it's not is odd.

Cake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Serbian denied entry to Australia for not complying with entry rules *shrug*

not even a story

Not long ago Australians were banned from returning to Australia ... now thats a story

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By *ake and ScribbleCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity. "

I don't think Australia needs publicity to be fair.

I reckon most of the world's heard of it, seen pictures on the telly and knows where it is on a map.

Cake

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity.

I don't think Australia needs publicity to be fair.

I reckon most of the world's heard of it, seen pictures on the telly and knows where it is on a map.

Cake"

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By *ake and ScribbleCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity.

I don't think Australia needs publicity to be fair.

I reckon most of the world's heard of it, seen pictures on the telly and knows where it is on a map.

Cake

"

I thought you'd appreciate that.

Cake

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity. "
Yes. I also reckon it is about that too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out"

Kick them out to where?

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By *issyandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Plymouth

If you have been vaccinated why would you worry that a tennis player has not, unless the vaccines don't work.

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By *ew sensationMan
over a year ago

widnes


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion."
. . . What a twat he is , if anyone is gagging for a bad dose of covid its him

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By *aycole1Man
over a year ago

liverpool

Barking mad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You gotta love it, the arrogant sh@t will be spitting feathers and no doubt saying "do they know who I am". Yeah, a vax dodger "

God bless you to open your eyes and wake up soon…

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"You gotta love it, the arrogant sh@t will be spitting feathers and no doubt saying "do they know who I am". Yeah, a vax dodger

God bless you to open your eyes and wake up soon… "

What has god got to do with it?

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By *Just meMan
over a year ago

Pontefract


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion."

Nice to see in this forum people are not supporting that idiot who places himself above others... I hope they kick him out... and also remove the others who have got in using the same tricks.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"If you have been vaccinated why would you worry that a tennis player has not, unless the vaccines don't work."

But they do

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Wish the England Ashes team had been refused entry. "

It's ok, they didn't "show up" anyway.

Cal

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By *idnight RamblerMan
over a year ago

Pershore

Good on Australia for holding to their rules and not making exceptions for entitled celebs.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

I agree with you, it is politics!

They are using him to get a publicity.

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Yes. I also reckon it is about that too "

So, do YOU think that the laws of their land should not apply to Novak?

Cal

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

I’m afraid we are now at the start of a new culture of non vaxers who are starting to cry ‘ free will’

There will be an awful lot of people, including sports personalities who find themselves excluded from events because they are not vaccinated.

They reserve the right not to of course….. but it comes with consequences that the rules should not be changed or wavered to accommodate.

I say kick him out as example of non rule changing!

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside


"I’m afraid we are now at the start of a new culture of non vaxers who are starting to cry ‘ free will’

There will be an awful lot of people, including sports personalities who find themselves excluded from events because they are not vaccinated.

They reserve the right not to of course….. but it comes with consequences that the rules should not be changed or wavered to accommodate.

I say kick him out as example of non rule changing! "
You don't believe free will is something that people should want? I find it very important personally.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"Well done Novak for telling the vaccine fanatics to FK off , your a young healthy man who has already beaten COVID and has anti body’s… no need to vaccinate (that’s the science)

being told by obese fat idiot Australian pm and smokers that you are in the wrong and are a danger … absolutely laughable … "

If he was telling then to fuck off he'd be on his way back home not appealing the decision. If he's got the wrong visa then Australia is doing the right thing

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast


"No absolutely not.

It's a privilege to allowed into any country and the rules and laws need to be followed.

We expect people to do that here so I don't see the the fact that he's an elite tennis player should make any difference. maybe he is using his freedom of choice why do u vax people have to interfeer with others peoples choice FREE WILL

He has the right not to be vaccinated. Australia has the right to refuse him entry. His FREE WILL does not trump their law. Simple isnt it. "
to some

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules"."

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements

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By *instonandLadyAstorCouple
over a year ago

Not where we seem to be...


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out"

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

He needs to get on a plane and head home. It's been self inflicted and we have no sympathy.

I hope the appeal is thrown out. People can choose not to be vaccined but they need to accept that they may then not be allowed to go everywhere they wish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

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Are there any football tournaments abroad? That players and football fans travel to?

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Kick them out to where? "

A good question! But if a head scratcher, that. Where do you send footballers when you kick them out of the country? I look forward to the person who proposed this course of action explaining where the footballers are to be sent.

Also, slightly different situation. It’s not so much that the Aussies are kicking Novak out, they didn’t let him in. It’s like not getting last the door in a nightclub, that’s not quite the same as getting frogmarched out.

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By *umalotagainMan
over a year ago

a town called malice

It’s pretty simple really, it’s up to him if he wants to take a vaccine, but it’s also up there Australian government as to how they implement their immigration policies, if their rules say you have to be vaccinated then you have to be vaccinated

If anyone on this site had their visa cancelled they would shout cry and get on the next plane home, why should a jumped up rich boy be any different

Hope they boot him on Monday

Novax deportavich

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"I’m afraid we are now at the start of a new culture of non vaxers who are starting to cry ‘ free will’

There will be an awful lot of people, including sports personalities who find themselves excluded from events because they are not vaccinated.

They reserve the right not to of course….. but it comes with consequences that the rules should not be changed or wavered to accommodate.

I say kick him out as example of non rule changing! You don't believe free will is something that people should want? I find it very important personally. "

The poster clearly said that free will is fine ... but that it comes with consequences. They did not suggest that people are not allowed free will.

Novak is a grown adult; and has made decisions that impact his ability to compete in his chosen profession. That is entirely his choice. But free will doesn’t mean that someone can do whatever they like without consequences.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"It’s pretty simple really, it’s up to him if he wants to take a vaccine, but it’s also up there Australian government as to how they implement their immigration policies, if their rules say you have to be vaccinated then you have to be vaccinated

If anyone on this site had their visa cancelled they would shout cry and get on the next plane home, why should a jumped up rich boy be any different

Hope they boot him on Monday

Novax deportavich "

Nadal summed it up well, saying that if he was fed to then he could be competing in Australia without any difficulties.

Same for anti-Vaxxers here. Yes it is a personal choice if they don’t want to reduce danger for themselves, but the list of places they can’t go and things they can’t do is likely to get longer in the short/medium term. Overseas holidays, for example.

Personally, I am lucky enough to be pretty fit and very healthy, so chances are I would get a mild dose of I catch covid. But I feel safer knowing that I have protection that increases my chances of avoiding severe symptoms. I also feel more comfortable going out and about, knowing that I have reduced the chances of passing it on to others. Because I care about my health and my possible impact on others, I found it a very straightforward decision.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements "

He was anonymously issued a waiver so celebrity status is irrelevant as per the process and only upon arrival they decided to remove it amongst a fanfare of publicity... And now its being appealed. Does nt need to be any more drama than that.

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By *arleyfatboy2019Couple
over a year ago

Devon

Just picking up on a football thread mentioned earlier. For me to watch football I need to show proof of double vaccination to be able to watch the game.

However a football who isn’t double vaccinated can enter the same ground and play football.

One rule for one or acceptable.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

The trouble is way to many think that freedom of speech or choice doesn't come with responsobilty or even conquences from them choices?? and we have no objection to anyone not having the jab but we do object to is all the utter bullshit and lies the anti vax spread ?? and was speaking to a security guard yesterday ( why they need him is a question he was asking himself) and he was in totnes doing the same job and had eggs and verbal abuse thrown at hi by the anti vaxxers ??

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside


"Just picking up on a football thread mentioned earlier. For me to watch football I need to show proof of double vaccination to be able to watch the game.

However a football who isn’t double vaccinated can enter the same ground and play football.

One rule for one or acceptable. "
I have friends with no vaccinations who go watch football all the time, they just need a negative test beforehand.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements

He was anonymously issued a waiver so celebrity status is irrelevant as per the process and only upon arrival they decided to remove it amongst a fanfare of publicity... And now its being appealed. Does nt need to be any more drama than that. "

Well there must have been something wrong or he would have been in already.

The Australian border force is the same for anyone else.

Thousands of travellers go through with no problems at all

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Just picking up on a football thread mentioned earlier. For me to watch football I need to show proof of double vaccination to be able to watch the game.

However a football who isn’t double vaccinated can enter the same ground and play football.

One rule for one or acceptable. I have friends with no vaccinations who go watch football all the time, they just need a negative test beforehand."

This is in England right ?

Not travelling to another country?

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Also they are testing footballers regularly

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside


"Just picking up on a football thread mentioned earlier. For me to watch football I need to show proof of double vaccination to be able to watch the game.

However a football who isn’t double vaccinated can enter the same ground and play football.

One rule for one or acceptable. I have friends with no vaccinations who go watch football all the time, they just need a negative test beforehand.

This is in England right ?

Not travelling to another country?

"
Yeah mainly. Sometimes Scotland too but don't think that's gonna happen again soon.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements

He was anonymously issued a waiver so celebrity status is irrelevant as per the process and only upon arrival they decided to remove it amongst a fanfare of publicity... And now its being appealed. Does nt need to be any more drama than that.

Well there must have been something wrong or he would have been in already.

The Australian border force is the same for anyone else.

Thousands of travellers go through with no problems at all

"

That's what a lot of people seem to be missing. The organisers of the tournament said it was fine for him to play but they are not incharge of immigration laws. The border force is doing their job regardless of who he is.

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By *anddXXXCouple
over a year ago

London


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

Are there any football tournaments abroad? That players and football fans travel to? "

Not in the Premiership. Which is what was quoted.

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion."
why? He is medically except and no one needs to know why. Are you saying that all people who can’t take a vaccine for medical reasons should removed from society ??

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people."
shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

Are there any football tournaments abroad? That players and football fans travel to?

Not in the Premiership. Which is what was quoted."

Except those that travel for the European cups during the season, Nations Cup (Europe, Africa, South America) plus all the international games that individuals play for their countries.

Not always with fans at the moment, depends on the country

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

Are there any football tournaments abroad? That players and football fans travel to?

Not in the Premiership. Which is what was quoted.

Except those that travel for the European cups during the season, Nations Cup (Europe, Africa, South America) plus all the international games that individuals play for their countries.

Not always with fans at the moment, depends on the country "
I believe Italy has already put a date on when unvaccinated footballers will be able to play in their country.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Just picking up on a football thread mentioned earlier. For me to watch football I need to show proof of double vaccination to be able to watch the game.

However a football who isn’t double vaccinated can enter the same ground and play football.

One rule for one or acceptable. "

I think that anyone playing contact sports should be vaccinated.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements

He was anonymously issued a waiver so celebrity status is irrelevant as per the process and only upon arrival they decided to remove it amongst a fanfare of publicity... And now its being appealed. Does nt need to be any more drama than that.

Well there must have been something wrong or he would have been in already.

The Australian border force is the same for anyone else.

Thousands of travellers go through with no problems at all

"

I’m sure we will get more details in the coming days, but sounds as though he failed to provide evidence to support the exemption that he had claimed. I would have thought that evidence-checking formed part of the granting of the exemption, which would make the process cleaner. Right now it looks a bit of a shambles

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"Yeah we should be the same lots of footballers in the premiership not had it should kick them out

Theres a difference between sportsmen who compete and reside here, and sportspeople who travel abroad to compete though.

Winston

Are there any football tournaments abroad? That players and football fans travel to?

Not in the Premiership. Which is what was quoted.

Except those that travel for the European cups during the season, Nations Cup (Europe, Africa, South America) plus all the international games that individuals play for their countries.

Not always with fans at the moment, depends on the country I believe Italy has already put a date on when unvaccinated footballers will be able to play in their country. "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10355729/Italys-Serie-joins-Frances-Ligue-1-making-vaccination-COMPULSORY-sports-stars.html

Hopefully this will mean that France and Italy will be ruled out of major events.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion. why? He is medically except and no one needs to know why. Are you saying that all people who can’t take a vaccine for medical reasons should removed from society ??"

Are you saying that Novak can’t have vaccines for medical reasons? If that was the case, his medical exemption would be granted, but if he did not present proof, then it would fail. The comments coming out seen to suggest that he has not presented the correct evidence to support his exemption, or had the wrong sort of visa.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society. "

This isn’t about people’s thoughts or beliefs. It is about their actions.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion. why? He is medically except and no one needs to know why. Are you saying that all people who can’t take a vaccine for medical reasons should removed from society ??

Are you saying that Novak can’t have vaccines for medical reasons? If that was the case, his medical exemption would be granted, but if he did not present proof, then it would fail. The comments coming out seen to suggest that he has not presented the correct evidence to support his exemption, or had the wrong sort of visa. "

His medical exemption was granted, anonymously. I think the mistake was his own announcement that he was on the way - it mobilised the opposition and backed the government into a corner, all while he was en route. If he hadn’t done that he would have been allowed in, like the others who had the same visa and exemption.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society. "

Nonsense. Yet you want people to think the same way that you do, whilst decrying doing that

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

This isn’t about people’s thoughts or beliefs. It is about their actions. "
no it’s about their right to freewill and freedom of choice based on what they believe / fair / agree or disagree with.

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nonsense. Yet you want people to think the same way that you do, whilst decrying doing that "
I don’t want people to think the same way I do I just want them to have a freedom of choice

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nonsense. Yet you want people to think the same way that you do, whilst decrying doing that "

... and the poster also seems to think that it is ok to refer to people as nazis. Disgusting

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over a year ago

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nonsense. Yet you want people to think the same way that you do, whilst decrying doing that I don’t want people to think the same way I do I just want them to have a freedom of choice "

He has freedom of choice, doesn’t he?

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

He made his choice, he doesn't want the jab, the rules to get into Australia is you have to have been jabbed, I don't see what the problem is

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"NoVisa Djokovic

shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society. "

A properly organised society has Laws to protect the majority from those who present a perceived threat. Once those laws are enacted not agreeing with them is no excuse and the Law and its penalties can be applied to you should you break them.

All nations have Laws and most of their prisons are full of people who do not agree with those Laws. There is one nation on Earth that has the highest percentage of its citizens incarcerated in the world, where some citizens have threatened to kill those that simply ask them to wear a mask. No, not North Korea, China, Belarus but the land of the FREE. The USA.

If Australia has passed an immigration law then they have the right to enforce it until it is struck down.

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society. "

Nazis? Maybe keep some perspective there fella?

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By *ave05Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford Essex


"If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

Seems that's against his right to medical privacy. Hmm. Imagine the doctrines being entirely incoherent. "I refuse to tell any of you if I've had a routine vaccination, but here's details only relevant to me to get around the consequences of not disclosing something much less private!"

Sitting it out for 4 days for a court to decide in the spotlight of the worlds media is a strange move. I can't workout if he is arrogant or if he is ignorant, he is certainly not well informed and could have made this so much easier for himself.

"

I think his instagram post was ignorant and he was not well informed. His post that “life is wonderful and I’m off down under with a medical exemption “ just inflamed the authorities . My family live In Melbourne and people there endured the longest and most rigid of lockdowns in the world. If he had quietly arrived like Nadal even with visa discrepancies I do wonder if things would have been sorted out without the public glare.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"If he has an exemption then he must have had to disclose his medical condition for not having a vaccine?

Seems that's against his right to medical privacy. Hmm. Imagine the doctrines being entirely incoherent. "I refuse to tell any of you if I've had a routine vaccination, but here's details only relevant to me to get around the consequences of not disclosing something much less private!"

Sitting it out for 4 days for a court to decide in the spotlight of the worlds media is a strange move. I can't workout if he is arrogant or if he is ignorant, he is certainly not well informed and could have made this so much easier for himself.

I think his instagram post was ignorant and he was not well informed. His post that “life is wonderful and I’m off down under with a medical exemption “ just inflamed the authorities . My family live In Melbourne and people there endured the longest and most rigid of lockdowns in the world. If he had quietly arrived like Nadal even with visa discrepancies I do wonder if things would have been sorted out without the public glare."

I would agree, he has opened a can worms and his boasting played a huge part in his downfall.

This could blow over if he is given a chance to retrospectively complete the correct visa, although I do feel he may need to address the reason for the exemption to satisfy the Australian people who have endured such tough restrictions.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"To me it looks like it was a set up and they used djokovic and all this media attention to say "hey look even the worlds number 1 tennis player will not get pass these rules".

So should they not have followed the rules because he's world No 1? There's no set up it's just plain and simple rules and entry requirements

He was anonymously issued a waiver so celebrity status is irrelevant as per the process and only upon arrival they decided to remove it amongst a fanfare of publicity... And now its being appealed. Does nt need to be any more drama than that.

Well there must have been something wrong or he would have been in already.

The Australian border force is the same for anyone else.

Thousands of travellers go through with no problems at all

"

That's true. But the prime minister does not intervene in those thousands of travellers nor is there an outcry on social media for those exemoyed nor does the prime minister insult them in the media. The so called "celebrity special treatment" was not when his exemption was first granted, which was anonymous so they did it know who they were granting it for. But only when he landed. Where his celebrity attracted the attention of the prime minister to intervene. Unlike the thousands of others you mention.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nazis? Maybe keep some perspective there fella? "

The trouble is that seems to be the perspective of some people that cant understand that while yes everyone has a freedom to choose to do or not do this, that and the other the choices made have consequences regardless of who you are.

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough


"Been denied entry into Australia due to insufficient evidence of his medical exemption of the COVID vaccine.

Shouldn't have been allowed to compete anyway in my opinion."

this!

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By *immyinreadingMan
over a year ago

henley on thames


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nazis? Maybe keep some perspective there fella?

The trouble is that seems to be the perspective of some people that cant understand that while yes everyone has a freedom to choose to do or not do this, that and the other the choices made have consequences regardless of who you are."

I understand that point, but being denied entry to a country to play in a tennis tournament is hardly morally equivalent to the Holocaust. I find the “nazis” comment disgusting

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society. "

It's complete nonsense to associate a countries sovereign right to control its borders whatever the issue with a regime that committed mass murder, it was before and it will continue to be so post covid..

Context please..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nazis? Maybe keep some perspective there fella?

The trouble is that seems to be the perspective of some people that cant understand that while yes everyone has a freedom to choose to do or not do this, that and the other the choices made have consequences regardless of who you are.

I understand that point, but being denied entry to a country to play in a tennis tournament is hardly morally equivalent to the Holocaust. I find the “nazis” comment disgusting "

Ditto, anyone freely trotting out such garbage might wish to travel and see one of the camps..

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"NoVisa Djokovic

Glad if he does get kicked out. Cant have different rules for rich famous people. shouldn’t be a any rules about vaccination or not should be a persons choice what is wrong with you people. You are all turning into nazis with your if you don’t agree with something and refuse to think the same way you can’t be a part of society.

Nazis? Maybe keep some perspective there fella?

The trouble is that seems to be the perspective of some people that cant understand that while yes everyone has a freedom to choose to do or not do this, that and the other the choices made have consequences regardless of who you are."

Sure but the "choices have consequences" argument is weak sauce when the choices are considered to be unfair, discriminatory, illogical, unreasonable etc. Then the choice is not really a choice at all. "do this or else" is not a choice. You may feel it's the right thing to do.. As is your right, but it is not reasonable to then put the bullying back on those who are being bullied... "its your fault I hit you.. You were asking for it by wearing the wrong football top" is actually a more accurate representation in my opinion.

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