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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover

As I'm needle phobic Im yet to be vaccinated, I'm one of many many people who are not but also not an anti-vaccer.

Has anyone got any info on when any of the needle alternatives are expected to be released?

I'm aware that nasal sprays, tablets and air compressed vaccines are all on trials.

But when are they out...

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

The best people to ask would be the research team at the University of Southampton

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"The best people to ask would be the research team at the University of Southampton "

Thank you.

I have spoken to Lancaster uni (nasal), it was very positive, just no sign off date.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the moment I don't think there is an attempt alternative to an injection for the covid vaccinations although I did read something recently about a tablet but I haven't heard anything since and can't remember where I read it.

I do think if an alternative can be found it will mean more people will feel they can come forward to be vaccinated.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"At the moment I don't think there is an attempt alternative to an injection for the covid vaccinations although I did read something recently about a tablet but I haven't heard anything since and can't remember where I read it.

I do think if an alternative can be found it will mean more people will feel they can come forward to be vaccinated. "

I totally agree, as there are 100s of thousands of there just like me, who want the vaccine but just can't get past the needle phobia.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

OP can you get a place on a clinical trial ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the moment I don't think there is an attempt alternative to an injection for the covid vaccinations although I did read something recently about a tablet but I haven't heard anything since and can't remember where I read it.

I do think if an alternative can be found it will mean more people will feel they can come forward to be vaccinated.

I totally agree, as there are 100s of thousands of there just like me, who want the vaccine but just can't get past the needle phobia. "

Can I ask if you have the flu vaccination? I know there is a nasal spray but I thought that was only for children.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I was wondering if you have ever had a blood test or been in hospital and needed a canula?

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport


"The best people to ask would be the research team at the University of Southampton "

From the local news in the Southampton region. Southampton University are currently getting volunteers for the testing of a needleless injection of a Covid vacine but they are focussing on studying it a booster for people that have already had 1st and 2nd doses by more conventional means.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The best people to ask would be the research team at the University of Southampton

From the local news in the Southampton region. Southampton University are currently getting volunteers for the testing of a needleless injection of a Covid vacine but they are focussing on studying it a booster for people that have already had 1st and 2nd doses by more conventional means."

That's really interesting actually at I want to why they are focusing on the booster. As the OP said there will be thousands of people if not millions around the world in the same position as him that would like it but just can't have the jab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would assume tablets would be far easier to administer as they would not need refrigerated storage so I hope this is something that is really being locked into.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"OP can you get a place on a clinical trial ?"

They discussed that, however it meant bloods tests.

So that can't happen. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP can you get a place on a clinical trial ?

They discussed that, however it meant bloods tests.

So that can't happen. Lol"

Yes of course, that's a bugger.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"I would assume tablets would be far easier to administer as they would not need refrigerated storage so I hope this is something that is really being locked into."

And think of the saving, you won't need all the private companies supplying staff to the centres, it'll save billions. (The saving will be for the tax payer, obviously all the family & friends of the tory ministers that have these contracts will lose out). Lol

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

And think of the saving, you won't need all the private companies supplying staff to the centres, it'll save billions. "

Would we get the tablets out of a self service dispenser and update our own medical records ?

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"

And think of the saving, you won't need all the private companies supplying staff to the centres, it'll save billions.

Would we get the tablets out of a self service dispenser and update our own medical records ?"

Would they not be updated when sent to us, or picked up by us.. As per current prescription process??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

And think of the saving, you won't need all the private companies supplying staff to the centres, it'll save billions.

Would we get the tablets out of a self service dispenser and update our own medical records ?"

Obviously there will be a cost involved but the manpower will be significantly reduced. You wouldn't need upwards of 30 staff at 1 venue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dint likee needles

Cant u just close your eyes and look away ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dint likee needles

Cant u just close your eyes and look away ?"

There is a big difference between not liking needles and having a phobia.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get the phobias are irrational but needles just seems SO irrational to me, you can barely feel them.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Trypanophobia.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

The only problem with say tablets though the post or picked up from a pharmacy is that there is no actual proof of someone actually taking it

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only problem with say tablets though the post or picked up from a pharmacy is that there is no actual proof of someone actually taking it "

That's true but I suppose you could say that in relation to any medication dispensed to take at home.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


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That's true but I suppose you could say that in relation to any medication dispensed to take at home. "

Medication is prescribed just to help you, but vaccination is to protect others as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

That's true but I suppose you could say that in relation to any medication dispensed to take at home.

Medication is prescribed just to help you, but vaccination is to protect others as well"

I get that but medication is prescribed all the time for infectious conditions.

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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago

Gosport


" That's really interesting actually at I want to why they are focusing on the booster. As the OP said there will be thousands of people if not millions around the world in the same position as him that would like it but just can't have the jab. "

I wonder if one reason is this is seen as a safer group to test it on at the moment as they should still have some immunity to sever symptoms even if the new booster doesn't prove effective.

I also suspect that they may want to test the effect on antibody levels which as far as I know still requires the use of needles to take blood samples.

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By *ittleMissFozzieWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth

I really cannot believe how rude some people are! I'm also a needle phonic, no you cannot just look away!!

I had my first vaccine, panic attack while needle in me. Second panic attack 5 mins after leaving the vaccination room. Took me days to get over it. I've done meditation, got breathing techniques, all sorts but it's a deep rooted psychological problem.

As it happens, side effects mean I've been advised not to have more but that's a whole other story.

OP, you have my sympathy and I hope you find an answer

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By *ittleMissFozzieWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth


"I really cannot believe how rude some people are! I'm also a needle phonic, no you cannot just look away!!

I had my first vaccine, panic attack while needle in me. Second panic attack 5 mins after leaving the vaccination room. Took me days to get over it. I've done meditation, got breathing techniques, all sorts but it's a deep rooted psychological problem.

As it happens, side effects mean I've been advised not to have more but that's a whole other story.

OP, you have my sympathy and I hope you find an answer "

Phobic*

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"I really cannot believe how rude some people are! I'm also a needle phonic, no you cannot just look away!!

I had my first vaccine, panic attack while needle in me. Second panic attack 5 mins after leaving the vaccination room. Took me days to get over it. I've done meditation, got breathing techniques, all sorts but it's a deep rooted psychological problem.

As it happens, side effects mean I've been advised not to have more but that's a whole other story.

OP, you have my sympathy and I hope you find an answer

Phobic*"

Thank you, and I wish you well.

Sadly I always collapse and eat floor the moment it penetrates my skin.

And I guess for this site Penertration is the appropriate word. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I'm needle phobic Im yet to be vaccinated, I'm one of many many people who are not but also not an anti-vaccer.

Has anyone got any info on when any of the needle alternatives are expected to be released?

I'm aware that nasal sprays, tablets and air compressed vaccines are all on trials.

But when are they out... "

Energex have recently begun small scale human trials in Switzerland of a vaccine administered via skin patch which stimulates a greater t-cell response. Early results expected by the end of January.

Have you considered CBT to address your phobia? It’s very effective!

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull


"At the moment I don't think there is an attempt alternative to an injection for the covid vaccinations although I did read something recently about a tablet but I haven't heard anything since and can't remember where I read it.

I do think if an alternative can be found it will mean more people will feel they can come forward to be vaccinated.

I totally agree, as there are 100s of thousands of there just like me, who want the vaccine but just can't get past the needle phobia.

Can I ask if you have the flu vaccination? I know there is a nasal spray but I thought that was only for children. "

The nasal spray flu vaccine is only licensed for under 18 years old so is not given to adults.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I dint likee needles

Cant u just close your eyes and look away ?"

No you can't. There's a huge difference between not liking needles (not many do) and an actual phobia.

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull


"The only problem with say tablets though the post or picked up from a pharmacy is that there is no actual proof of someone actually taking it

That's true but I suppose you could say that in relation to any medication dispensed to take at home. "

There isn't any form of vaccine that is given to take at home. Even the oral or nasal ones are given by a health professional.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I get the phobias are irrational but needles just seems SO irrational to me, you can barely feel them. "

It's nothing to do with the feel of the needle. Are there degrees of irrationality?

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By *aunchy RaccoonsCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Having a proper needle phobia but still wanting the vacine is probably the only valid excuse not to have had them yet that we've seen.

Though if they can't produce a needle-less version you might have to just bite the bullet.

You never know, it could help you get over your fear!

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

A close family member is needle phobic. We've advised speaking to a health professional with the hope of some kind of therapy to help or an alternative treatment involving suggestion while relaxed (can't say the actual word). So far no joy. As the pandemic rolls on we become increasingly concerned but they have previously refused potentially life saving treatment that involves needles so unless we can get some help for them or alternative methods of delivery become available we just have to hope they remain healthy.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"The only problem with say tablets though the post or picked up from a pharmacy is that there is no actual proof of someone actually taking it

That's true but I suppose you could say that in relation to any medication dispensed to take at home.

There isn't any form of vaccine that is given to take at home. Even the oral or nasal ones are given by a health professional. "

I'd be happy with that

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"A close family member is needle phobic. We've advised speaking to a health professional with the hope of some kind of therapy to help or an alternative treatment involving suggestion while relaxed (can't say the actual word). So far no joy. As the pandemic rolls on we become increasingly concerned but they have previously refused potentially life saving treatment that involves needles so unless we can get some help for them or alternative methods of delivery become available we just have to hope they remain healthy."

Having just got over 3 weeks of covid, that TBH I want sure I'd get through, I definitely will get vaccinated as I never want to experience that again.

So as much as I hope for a needleless vaccine I know I'll have to get help and get jabbed.

Apparently I have to wait a short period first due to just having covid.

And obviously I want everyone to be safe and healthy.

Fingers crossed that the brilliant scientists beat this beast soon.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Guidelines say you can be vaccinated 28 days after first Covid symptoms so that must be any day now for you.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"A close family member is needle phobic. We've advised speaking to a health professional with the hope of some kind of therapy to help or an alternative treatment involving suggestion while relaxed (can't say the actual word). So far no joy. As the pandemic rolls on we become increasingly concerned but they have previously refused potentially life saving treatment that involves needles so unless we can get some help for them or alternative methods of delivery become available we just have to hope they remain healthy.

Having just got over 3 weeks of covid, that TBH I want sure I'd get through, I definitely will get vaccinated as I never want to experience that again.

So as much as I hope for a needleless vaccine I know I'll have to get help and get jabbed.

Apparently I have to wait a short period first due to just having covid.

And obviously I want everyone to be safe and healthy.

Fingers crossed that the brilliant scientists beat this beast soon. "

Have you tried any therapy?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Sympathies, OP.

I'm needle phobic, but obviously phobia exists on a spectrum. I'm fortunate within that spectrum that I can override it to get it done.

If it helps, the Covid ones I've had have been the quickest needles I've ever had, the most recent one I didn't even feel.

I realise it may not help - but the information might help empower you.

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By *ategoodbyeMan
over a year ago

Hertfordshire

I consider myself pretty needle-phobic. I had to have a blood test a few years back, and the nurse was quite worried that I was sweating so hard it looked as if I had been in the shower.

And I treated the countdown tiny first bad like a to an execution. In the event, I didn’t even feel it. Or the second. My booster, a few days ago, stung a little bit, but it was over in a second.

Not sure what I’m saying here, except it wasn’t anything like as bad as I feared. Or perhaps I’m pain-phobic, not needle-phobic.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"A close family member is needle phobic. We've advised speaking to a health professional with the hope of some kind of therapy to help or an alternative treatment involving suggestion while relaxed (can't say the actual word). So far no joy. As the pandemic rolls on we become increasingly concerned but they have previously refused potentially life saving treatment that involves needles so unless we can get some help for them or alternative methods of delivery become available we just have to hope they remain healthy.

Having just got over 3 weeks of covid, that TBH I want sure I'd get through, I definitely will get vaccinated as I never want to experience that again.

So as much as I hope for a needleless vaccine I know I'll have to get help and get jabbed.

Apparently I have to wait a short period first due to just having covid.

And obviously I want everyone to be safe and healthy.

Fingers crossed that the brilliant scientists beat this beast soon.

Have you tried any therapy?"

That's something I'm considering

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"Guidelines say you can be vaccinated 28 days after first Covid symptoms so that must be any day now for you. "

OK, thank you.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"Sympathies, OP.

I'm needle phobic, but obviously phobia exists on a spectrum. I'm fortunate within that spectrum that I can override it to get it done.

If it helps, the Covid ones I've had have been the quickest needles I've ever had, the most recent one I didn't even feel.

I realise it may not help - but the information might help empower you."

Thank you, and yes it does help.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feel for you fella im same but had first 2 took a month to get me ready wanted to help my parents other wise I'd never would have it.never volunteer for bloods even had teeth out no injection also been locked up for refusing a blood test hope you get sorted.

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"Feel for you fella im same but had first 2 took a month to get me ready wanted to help my parents other wise I'd never would have it.never volunteer for bloods even had teeth out no injection also been locked up for refusing a blood test hope you get sorted."

Cheers mate

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By *oodford guyMan
over a year ago

Spain


"As I'm needle phobic Im yet to be vaccinated, I'm one of many many people who are not but also not an anti-vaccer.

Has anyone got any info on when any of the needle alternatives are expected to be released?

I'm aware that nasal sprays, tablets and air compressed vaccines are all on trials.

But when are they out... "

I don’t know when they will finish the clinical trials on the non needle based vaccinations, but I’ve been helping out the vaccination programme as a vaccinator and can let you know the needle is quite small and very fine , if you let them know you’re needle phobic they will help you with distraction techniques..

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By *entkev OP   Man
over a year ago

Dover


"As I'm needle phobic Im yet to be vaccinated, I'm one of many many people who are not but also not an anti-vaccer.

Has anyone got any info on when any of the needle alternatives are expected to be released?

I'm aware that nasal sprays, tablets and air compressed vaccines are all on trials.

But when are they out...

I don’t know when they will finish the clinical trials on the non needle based vaccinations, but I’ve been helping out the vaccination programme as a vaccinator and can let you know the needle is quite small and very fine , if you let them know you’re needle phobic they will help you with distraction techniques.. "

Thank you

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England

As mention the university of Southampton are designing a device that will get the vaccine into the blood stream via an air jet which penetrates the skin without a needle or much pain (not that there was much pain from my 3 jabs). Hope that helps. Guess time will tell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was on the extreme end of needle phobic, I would tremble at the sight of any kind of medical facility. Injection was completely out of the question.

3 months of therapy with nhs and not completely cured but I’ve had my 1st jab. I just layed on the floor and said go… felt a bit silly but hey it’s the 1st step to getting over it. Longer you leave it the worse it gets….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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The nasal spray flu vaccine is only licensed for under 18 years old so is not given to adults."

2yrs to 18 years.

In the states it is 2yrs to 49yrs.

It is a live attenuated virus vaccine

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

I spent 31 years trying to avoid compressed air and hydraulic oil passing through my skin. Think I'll stick to the needle method.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was on the extreme end of needle phobic, I would tremble at the sight of any kind of medical facility. Injection was completely out of the question.

3 months of therapy with nhs and not completely cured but I’ve had my 1st jab. I just layed on the floor and said go… felt a bit silly but hey it’s the 1st step to getting over it. Longer you leave it the worse it gets…. "

Well done you. Pleased you managed to get over it to some degree.

Nobody 'likes' needles, but I do find it almost unbelievable that ratioy functioning grown ups can be that scared of something so minor.

I understand that some people faint at the sight of a needle, just as others do at the sight of blood. Why cant they just lie down (instead of sit) and if they faint, jab them while they're out?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"I was on the extreme end of needle phobic, I would tremble at the sight of any kind of medical facility. Injection was completely out of the question.

3 months of therapy with nhs and not completely cured but I’ve had my 1st jab. I just layed on the floor and said go… felt a bit silly but hey it’s the 1st step to getting over it. Longer you leave it the worse it gets….

Well done you. Pleased you managed to get over it to some degree.

Nobody 'likes' needles, but I do find it almost unbelievable that ratioy functioning grown ups can be that scared of something so minor.

I understand that some people faint at the sight of a needle, just as others do at the sight of blood. Why cant they just lie down (instead of sit) and if they faint, jab them while they're out?"

Phobias are not rational that's why people have such a hard time with them. Some people have a phobia of buttons...buttons rarely hurt anybody and the people who have this phobia don't understand it anymore than anybody else. The human brain is a funny thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was on the extreme end of needle phobic, I would tremble at the sight of any kind of medical facility. Injection was completely out of the question.

3 months of therapy with nhs and not completely cured but I’ve had my 1st jab. I just layed on the floor and said go… felt a bit silly but hey it’s the 1st step to getting over it. Longer you leave it the worse it gets….

Well done you. Pleased you managed to get over it to some degree.

Nobody 'likes' needles, but I do find it almost unbelievable that ratioy functioning grown ups can be that scared of something so minor.

I understand that some people faint at the sight of a needle, just as others do at the sight of blood. Why cant they just lie down (instead of sit) and if they faint, jab them while they're out?"

You have zero understanding of phobias.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought but the vaccine needle is really tiny you cant feel it going in your arm you can always but some headphones on and look away.

If you get covid you are going to get a lot bigger needles stuck in you and possibly a drain in your lungs.

Just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a thought but the vaccine needle is really tiny you cant feel it going in your arm you can always but some headphones on and look away.

If you get covid you are going to get a lot bigger needles stuck in you and possibly a drain in your lungs.

Just a thought

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I was on the extreme end of needle phobic, I would tremble at the sight of any kind of medical facility. Injection was completely out of the question.

3 months of therapy with nhs and not completely cured but I’ve had my 1st jab. I just layed on the floor and said go… felt a bit silly but hey it’s the 1st step to getting over it. Longer you leave it the worse it gets…. "

Did you feel better after having the jab? As in less phobic?

Phobias are horrible things. Don't feel silly. X

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