FabSwingers.com forum: Modern science and faith

By *annyDanielle OP Man
over a year ago

Street, Somerset

Modern science has often been touted as the new 'religion' and so it all comes sown to faith.

As with religion those with faith will follow it's recommendations without question.

Also, it seems, those without faith are being treated like heretics and burned at the metaphorical stake.

Who would have thought that in 2021 we'd descend to the ideology of the middle ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the issue is much more to do with which science politicians and the media have chosen to focus on and which companies have been funded to pursue what.

Then throw in social media and we get conspiracies and confusion.

Science isn't the problem.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

Faith is a belief system whereas science is provable...very different things.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

There is no proof of faith this side of the grave. I'd say that's a considerable difference from science.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Science is provable... until they find different proof...

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By *egoMan
over a year ago

Preston

Not really comparable.

Faith was only a stopgap until science caught up.

With those that hold onto faith ignoring the proven science being wilfully ignorant.

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By *annyDanielle OP Man
over a year ago

Street, Somerset

"I think the issue is much more to do with which science politicians and the media have chosen to focus on and which companies have been funded to pursue what.

Then throw in social media and we get conspiracies and confusion.

Science isn't the problem."

You are suggesting that those without faith have somehow been swayed, that they are unable to think for themselves? That seems quite a generalisation and overly simplistic.

I have no faith, i also have no time for conspiracy theories nor any interest in social media.

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By *annyDanielle OP Man
over a year ago

Street, Somerset

"Not really comparable.

Faith was only a stopgap until science caught up.

With those that hold onto faith ignoring the proven science being wilfully ignorant. "

I am not equating modern science to religion. Substitute faith for belief/confidence if it helps but you'll find that they are synonymous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think the issue is much more to do with which science politicians and the media have chosen to focus on and which companies have been funded to pursue what.

Then throw in social media and we get conspiracies and confusion.

Science isn't the problem.

You are suggesting that those without faith have somehow been swayed, that they are unable to think for themselves? That seems quite a generalisation and overly simplistic.

I have no faith, i also have no time for conspiracy theories nor any interest in social media.

You don't need to be on social media to be influenced by it.

Something the pandemic has highlighted is that actually people don't think for themselves.

They prefer to follow.

That includes those that call themselves 'independent thinkers' but that are actually just saying the same stuff as all the other 'independent thinkers'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Modern science has often been touted as the new 'religion' and so it all comes sown to faith.

As with religion those with faith will follow it's recommendations without question.

Also, it seems, those without faith are being treated like heretics and burned at the metaphorical stake.

Who would have thought that in 2021 we'd descend to the ideology of the middle ages."

Claptrap. Faith is the belief in something without evidence, or even contrary to it.

When it comes to science, what we have is a reasonable confidence based on rigourous method and repeatable results.

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By *annyDanielle OP Man
over a year ago

Street, Somerset

"I think the issue is much more to do with which science politicians and the media have chosen to focus on and which companies have been funded to pursue what.

Then throw in social media and we get conspiracies and confusion.

Science isn't the problem.

You are suggesting that those without faith have somehow been swayed, that they are unable to think for themselves? That seems quite a generalisation and overly simplistic.

I have no faith, i also have no time for conspiracy theories nor any interest in social media.

You don't need to be on social media to be influenced by it.

Something the pandemic has highlighted is that actually people don't think for themselves.

They prefer to follow.

That includes those that call themselves 'independent thinkers' but that are actually just saying the same stuff as all the other 'independent thinkers'."

Rest assured i have not been influenced by social media, nor do i regurgitate the ideas of other 'independent thinkers'.

As for 'following', are we not being encouraged to 'follow' the recommendations and guidelines set out by politicians at the behest of the 'new religion'.

Who then can claim to be truely thinking for themselves?

The real problem comes when the guidelines and recommendations stop being the guidelines and recommendations and take on a more sinister bent. Sadly i feel we are fast heading towards that.

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By *akie32Man
over a year ago

winchester

"Modern science has often been touted as the new 'religion' and so it all comes sown to faith.

As with religion those with faith will follow it's recommendations without question.

Also, it seems, those without faith are being treated like heretics and burned at the metaphorical stake.

Who would have thought that in 2021 we'd descend to the ideology of the middle ages.

Claptrap. Faith is the belief in something without evidence, or even contrary to it.

When it comes to science, what we have is a reasonable confidence based on rigourous method and repeatable results."

couldnt agree more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rest assured i have not been influenced by social media, nor do i regurgitate the ideas of other 'independent thinkers'.

As for 'following', are we not being encouraged to 'follow' the recommendations and guidelines set out by politicians at the behest of the 'new religion'.

Who then can claim to be truely thinking for themselves?

The real problem comes when the guidelines and recommendations stop being the guidelines and recommendations and take on a more sinister bent. Sadly i feel we are fast heading towards that."

I'm not seeing evidence of independent thought yet but I'll accept your assurance, thanks.

If your argument is that there's a grand scheme or plan, I disagree.

All I see is panic, incompetence and opportunism.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Modern science has often been touted as the new 'religion' and so it all comes sown to faith.

As with religion those with faith will follow it's recommendations without question.

Also, it seems, those without faith are being treated like heretics and burned at the metaphorical stake.

Who would have thought that in 2021 we'd descend to the ideology of the middle ages.

Claptrap. Faith is the belief in something without evidence, or even contrary to it.

When it comes to science, what we have is a reasonable confidence based on rigourous method and repeatable results."

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

Science should have the ability to prove God. Thus far it has failed to do so.

The biggest proof of the non-existence of God is 'suffering'.

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By *annyDanielle OP Man
over a year ago

Street, Somerset

"Rest assured i have not been influenced by social media, nor do i regurgitate the ideas of other 'independent thinkers'.

As for 'following', are we not being encouraged to 'follow' the recommendations and guidelines set out by politicians at the behest of the 'new religion'.

Who then can claim to be truely thinking for themselves?

The real problem comes when the guidelines and recommendations stop being the guidelines and recommendations and take on a more sinister bent. Sadly i feel we are fast heading towards that.

I'm not seeing evidence of independent thought yet but I'll accept your assurance, thanks.

It's not for me to provide evidence.

If your argument is that there's a grand scheme or plan, I disagree.

That is not my argument

All I see is panic, incompetence and opportunism."

I couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science should have the ability to prove God. Thus far it has failed to do so.

The biggest proof of the non-existence of God is 'suffering'."

God is conveniently unfalsifiable by the scientific method.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science should have the ability to prove God. Thus far it has failed to do so.

The biggest proof of the non-existence of God is 'suffering'."

Maybe that's a failure of science?

If there were a god wouldn't it be possible for them to be beyond the comprehension of humans?

Some aliens are like that too... or so I'm told...

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Science should have the ability to prove God. Thus far it has failed to do so.

The biggest proof of the non-existence of God is 'suffering'.

Maybe that's a failure of science?

If there were a god wouldn't it be possible for them to be beyond the comprehension of humans?

Some aliens are like that too... or so I'm told..."

If God was beyond the comprehension of humans there would be no God.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Science should have the ability to prove God. Thus far it has failed to do so.

The biggest proof of the non-existence of God is 'suffering'.

Maybe that's a failure of science?

If there were a god wouldn't it be possible for them to be beyond the comprehension of humans?

Some aliens are like that too... or so I'm told...

If God was beyond the comprehension of humans there would be no God.

er, yeah. Cos that makes perfect sense...

Bears don't shit in the woods etc. etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Modern science has often been touted as the new 'religion' and so it all comes sown to faith.

As with religion those with faith will follow it's recommendations without question.

Also, it seems, those without faith are being treated like heretics and burned at the metaphorical stake.

Who would have thought that in 2021 we'd descend to the ideology of the middle ages."

Science is based on data, empirical evidence and statistics, faith is based on belief. The two are very different. Science won’t necessarily be right but it is better than the alternative and guessing.

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By *esi_Dingg_DonggCouple
over a year ago

london

How is science and religion the same thing ? They are different things entirely and cannot be comparable. God has given mankind the best brains so mankind gradually gets better at scientific discoveries and solutions.

Religion on the other hand is about how you should live your life in this world, ie, good morals and values, and also how you can save yourself from Hell by not being wicked or immoral, and thus attaining heaven by being good human beings and staying away from the devils temptations.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

"Science is provable... until they find different proof..."

That is how science works, a theory holds up until new evidence emerges which shows it is wrong, then the theory is modified to take account of the new evidence. Very different to faith.

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