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"Johnson is giving a press conference at 8.00pm tonight to a dress rising Omicron cases. So that's us all in full lockdown again then." Soon I think | |||
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"Johnson is giving a press conference at 8.00pm tonight to a dress rising Omicron cases. So that's us all in full lockdown again then." It’s only about the boosters roll up roll up. | |||
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"Johnson is giving a press conference at 8.00pm tonight to a dress rising Omicron cases. So that's us all in full lockdown again then." Cant lockdown without furlough and no mention of that...plus it would cost too much | |||
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"From what I read online to do with the briefing, it is just to encourage people to get their boosters. The media say we don't need to expect any further restrictions coming in, of course we will know for sure after 8 p.m." Prime time conference by the PM, nah be more than that. Plus the man has zero credibility so who's going to listen to what he has to say. | |||
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"Hopefully he’s going to resign " We can but hope but I don't think we're that lucky unfortunately | |||
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"They have increased the covid alert level from level 3 to level 4.. so maybe a precursor to what may eventually be coming…" Its the review date I'm listening for. | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,." Well at the moment there’s not much difference between unvaccinated and double jabbed | |||
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"Going to invite us all to this year’s quiz "Going to invite us all to this year’s party at number ten. But nobody in the country tell the police. | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,. Well at the moment there’s not much difference between unvaccinated and double jabbed " Except that unvaccinated increases the chances of a new variant occurring in the first place. | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,." Hope it's a lovely view up there from the summit of the moral high ground. | |||
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Going to invite us all to this year’s party at number ten. But nobody in the country tell the police.""I've started so I'll finish"!! | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,. Well at the moment there’s not much difference between unvaccinated and double jabbed Except that unvaccinated increases the chances of a new variant occurring in the first place." Absolutely.. and that's the message from the top of the hill!! | |||
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"Johnson is giving a press conference at 8.00pm tonight to a dress rising Omicron cases. So that's us all in full lockdown again then." Apart from the fact they've already said it's not going to be a lockdown announcement. | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,. Well at the moment there’s not much difference between unvaccinated and double jabbed Except that unvaccinated increases the chances of a new variant occurring in the first place. Absolutely.. and that's the message from the top of the hill!!" Glad we’re in agreement. | |||
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"It strange how we think that it is the unvaccinated which create new variants of the virus. The virus is like everything in the world, it fights to survive and continue. If we find a way to stop it then we open the door for a new variant to come about which can survive our current protections / jab. Stop that one and there will be another around the corner. Mother Nature is way more powerful then we will ever be. Sometimes it better the devil you know. "Viruses mutate at random. Every umpteen trillion variations, you get one that’s more effective than before. So the more virus that’s out there, the more chance of a new better variant coming along. | |||
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"It strange how we think that it is the unvaccinated which create new variants of the virus. The virus is like everything in the world, it fights to survive and continue. If we find a way to stop it then we open the door for a new variant to come about which can survive our current protections / jab. Stop that one and there will be another around the corner. Mother Nature is way more powerful then we will ever be. Sometimes it better the devil you know.
Viruses mutate at random. Every umpteen trillion variations, you get one that’s more effective than before. So the more virus that’s out there, the more chance of a new better variant coming along. "I understand, however what doesn’t kill it will just make it stronger. Let’s see how it processes over time. We have taken flu jabs for many years and it never stopped it. Are we all happy to get jabbed yearly with restrictions on life? It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way | |||
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"The thing non of you have thought about.... Dominic Cummins is making a comeback?" I think Cummins is responsible for the slow, well timed leaks. He's controlling BJ's downfall slowly and painfully as revenge by leaking out these stories, images, videos at just the right time to cause maximum damage. But BJ deserves it. | |||
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"The thing non of you have thought about.... Dominic Cummins is making a comeback? I think Cummins is responsible for the slow, well timed leaks. He's controlling BJ's downfall slowly and painfully as revenge by leaking out these stories, images, videos at just the right time to cause maximum damage. But BJ deserves it." Live by the sword or the knife you put in your predecessors back etc..  | |||
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"It strange how we think that it is the unvaccinat Viruses mutate at random. Every umpteen trillion variations, you get one that’s more effective than before. So the more virus that’s out there, the more chance of a new better variant coming along. I understand, however what doesn’t kill it will just make it stronger. Let’s see how it processes over time. We have taken flu jabs for many years and it never stopped it. Are we all happy to get jabbed yearly with restrictions on life? It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way" I’m happy to be educated if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that the new variant is not caused by pressure from the vaccinations, but is simply a successful random mutation that can out-compete the original. And yes, I’m satisfied to be re-vaccinated for the rest of my life, if necessary. I will be doing my own part to reduce that pool of virus from which new variation emerge. It’s people who allow that pool to grow who are prolonging the need. Not me. | |||
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"Get boosted now." Nope | |||
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"Get boosted now." I did went the Co op and bought a cadburys boost  | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way" That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me. | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me." Scientists have said we cannot eliminate it | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV. "Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either). My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare. | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me. Scientists have said we cannot eliminate it" Not with that attitude, anyway. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Devastating for so many. A friend of ours is fighting cancer. Her op was moved last week due to lack of beds. Was rescheduled to just before Xmas.
Presumably now cancelled.
Cannot see the logic to any of this. The variant is already here. How is this going to make any realistic difference at this late stage?" | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare. "yep. The pressure on medical staff is immense and this just added another layer | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Devastating for so many. A friend of ours is fighting cancer. Her op was moved last week due to lack of beds. Was rescheduled to just before Xmas.
Presumably now cancelled.
Cannot see the logic to any of this. The variant is already here. How is this going to make any realistic difference at this late stage?"realistic difference to a prime minister whose position is under threat?... | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Devastating for so many. A friend of ours is fighting cancer. Her op was moved last week due to lack of beds. Was rescheduled to just before Xmas.
Presumably now cancelled.
Cannot see the logic to any of this. The variant is already here. How is this going to make any realistic difference at this late stage?
realistic difference to a prime minister whose position is under threat?... "Well yes. That would be perfectly logical | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
yep. The pressure on medical staff is immense and this just added another layer"My inbox and messaging keeps pinging for me to do more vax shifts but I simply can't spare any time around work/family at the moment. I feel bad because I can't help at present  | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me." The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine. | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me. The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine." Loads of people had no idea that they were "susceptible" until they suddenly were needing a hospital bed. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
yep. The pressure on medical staff is immense and this just added another layer
My inbox and messaging keeps pinging for me to do more vax shifts but I simply can't spare any time around work/family at the moment. I feel bad because I can't help at present "there is absolutely no need for you to feel bad | |||
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" The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine." What a load of bollox. This is a typical post from idiots who think they know better. I realise you lot have detached yourselves from the "vanilla society" as you call it, but could you please attach yourselves to normal society just for a little while, while this covid thing gets sorted. Cheers   | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me. The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine. Loads of people had no idea that they were "susceptible" until they suddenly were needing a hospital bed. "This , if only there was a test to see if someone was “susceptible “ whatever that means. The reality is that everybody is susceptible to catching it. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare. "If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out. Look at the counter... https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers The NHS is badly run not under funded. | |||
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"Hopefully he’s going to resign " And which knob head is going to take over??? | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
"We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things. | |||
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"The thing non of you have thought about.... Dominic Cummins is making a comeback? I think Cummins is responsible for the slow, well timed leaks. He's controlling BJ's downfall slowly and painfully as revenge by leaking out these stories, images, videos at just the right time to cause maximum damage. But BJ deserves it." Hell yeah! A 'woman' scorned!  | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things. "Better organisation would go further. It's not just about throwing more money at it. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things.
Better organisation would go further.
It's not just about throwing more money at it."I don't deny that, however, we still don't spend as much per person, or have as many key personnel/beds as similar countries. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things.
Better organisation would go further.
It's not just about throwing more money at it."Governments, especially the conservatives, have been organising it for decades, you’d think they’d have finished by now, for the better. No the answer is to fund it properly. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things.
Better organisation would go further.
It's not just about throwing more money at it.
I don't deny that, however, we still don't spend as much per person, or have as many key personnel/beds as similar countries. "You could have more beds/personnel with less money with reorganisation. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things. "Any idea where to find the info which shows how we compare against say France Germany Spain Italy on the measures you mention above and also how much individuals contribute to pay for their health care..? | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
If you think the NHS is under funded, check this out.
Look at the counter...
https://news.sky.com/nhs-in-numbers
The NHS is badly run not under funded.
We have fewer doctors, nurses, acute beds, ICU beds and a multitude of other metrics, including £££ spent per head of population, compared to most comparable countries. Big numbers are needed to do big things.
Any idea where to find the info which shows how we compare against say France Germany Spain Italy on the measures you mention above and also how much individuals contribute to pay for their health care..? "It's freely available online, within various reports, articles etc. | |||
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" The The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine. Loads of people had no idea that they were "susceptible" until they suddenly were needing a hospital bed. "And yet you cannot confirm this is due to covid. Let's be very real people. Before the mass role out of latflo and PCR whether you had covid or not was based on whether you had 1 or more covid symptom. Death by covid being if you died with 1 or more symptom of covid. That is a low bar. But has the covid infection and death by covid stats from pre latflo and PCR testing been eliminated in order to maintain statistical integrity? No. PCR has varying levels of false negative which IIRC the lowest is approx 30%. This is based on in lab trial. Are the statistics being adjusted to factor in the false positive rate? No. The NHS announced that mal practice rate of approx 50% by training NHS staff and 70% by non trained NHS staff when performing the PCR test. Which effect the results. Are the statistics adjusted to reflect this? No. Death by covid now is dying within 28 days of a positive covid test. Regardless of whether the cause of death is respiratory or not. The controls for the collation of these statistics are poor at best and yet they are being used to effect public opinion. As well as to justify policy. | |||
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"Hopefully he’s going to resign And which knob head is going to take over???" exactly, maybe the MP for the 18th century, Rees Mog? | |||
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"Shhhh Don't mention lockdown, you'll be accused of lockdown masturbating.. I've got my tissues ready but actually believe that'll be next week. Have to give a mention to the selfish idiots walking around shops and merging with large groups with no care or consideration to others and refusing to cover their faces, as well as those who feel they are best unvaccinated. A GREAT Big thanks to them,." . Question. So do you go around confronting the thousands and thousands of people using cafes, pubs, restaurants etc every day without a mask in sight ? Or do you restrict your comments to making an anonymous keyboard rant to a couple of dozen people ? | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare. "The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country. People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like. I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on ! I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s. Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all ! | |||
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" The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country. People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like. I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on ! I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s. Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all !" The pay of the chief execs isn't the issue. The corruption regarding insider trading is. Imagine paying £8 for a double ended cannula that you as an individual can source for less than £2 each. Without the collective bargaining power that the NHS has. If you put in a FOI request into seeing high ranking members of the NHS and MPs to companies that provide good and services to the NHS you will be startled by the results. Although such things will never be truly eliminated, we can make such practices much more difficult by having certain laws akin to what other nations have. Imagine if the NHS was paying less £2 for their cannulas. That's a £6 saving each. That's money that could be spent on deficiencies. Regarding diversity, I couldn't care less. I want things to be based on merit. I want the best people working for the NHS. I don't want equity based policies watering down the talent pool. If that means nurses are 90% woman because they are the best candidates then so be it. If that means nurses are 90% men because they are the best candidates then so be it. | |||
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" The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country. People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like. I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on ! I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s. Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all ! The pay of the chief execs isn't the issue. The corruption regarding insider trading is. Imagine paying £8 for a double ended cannula that you as an individual can source for less than £2 each. Without the collective bargaining power that the NHS has. If you put in a FOI request into seeing high ranking members of the NHS and MPs to companies that provide good and services to the NHS you will be startled by the results. Although such things will never be truly eliminated, we can make such practices much more difficult by having certain laws akin to what other nations have. Imagine if the NHS was paying less £2 for their cannulas. That's a £6 saving each. That's money that could be spent on deficiencies. Regarding diversity, I couldn't care less. I want things to be based on merit. I want the best people working for the NHS. I don't want equity based policies watering down the talent pool. If that means nurses are 90% woman because they are the best candidates then so be it. If that means nurses are 90% men because they are the best candidates then so be it." yes, yes and yes. | |||
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"Get boosted now." Fully Agree. Although he hasn't counted on the problem that it will be mid January before there is a full immune response for those jabbed beyond next week. | |||
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" The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country. People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like. I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on ! I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s. Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all ! The pay of the chief execs isn't the issue. The corruption regarding insider trading is. Imagine paying £8 for a double ended cannula that you as an individual can source for less than £2 each. Without the collective bargaining power that the NHS has. If you put in a FOI request into seeing high ranking members of the NHS and MPs to companies that provide good and services to the NHS you will be startled by the results. Although such things will never be truly eliminated, we can make such practices much more difficult by having certain laws akin to what other nations have. Imagine if the NHS was paying less £2 for their cannulas. That's a £6 saving each. That's money that could be spent on deficiencies. Regarding diversity, I couldn't care less. I want things to be based on merit. I want the best people working for the NHS. I don't want equity based policies watering down the talent pool. If that means nurses are 90% woman because they are the best candidates then so be it. If that means nurses are 90% men because they are the best candidates then so be it." So who is culpable in the NHS for this ? I’ve said on another thread that giving the NHS more money was like giving a d*unk more money to piss it up the wall and people were having heart attacks and pissing their pants with their comments ! But unless the NHS is run better and fully accountable for its spend then of course it will be exploited massively ! | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country.
People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like.
I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on !
I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s.
Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all !"Amazing to see how much influence the Daily Mail still has in the 21st century. | |||
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"Following a week of bad press ,Johnson took the opportunity to go on TV unchallenged ( imediately after Strictly) to put the pressure on the under funded NHS , In early January Johnson will be taking the praise for getting the roll out sorted or be blaming the doctors and nurses for letting the country down , " This is a publicity stunt trying to distract from the mess Johnson has caused. His message is important. It’s just the wrong messenger. | |||
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"Following a week of bad press ,Johnson took the opportunity to go on TV unchallenged ( imediately after Strictly) to put the pressure on the under funded NHS , In early January Johnson will be taking the praise for getting the roll out sorted or be blaming the doctors and nurses for letting the country down , " So what should he have done? | |||
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"Johnson is giving a press conference at 8.00pm tonight to a dress rising Omicron cases. So that's us all in full lockdown again then." This aged well | |||
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"The thing non of you have thought about.... Dominic Cummins is making a comeback? I think Cummins is responsible for the slow, well timed leaks. He's controlling BJ's downfall slowly and painfully as revenge by leaking out these stories, images, videos at just the right time to cause maximum damage. But BJ deserves it." It's definitely DC leaking all the shit. Hope he's happy when people won't follow the rules because of his castle visit and his leaks and more people die. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country.
People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like.
I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on !
I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s.
Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all !
Amazing to see how much influence the Daily Mail still has in the 21st century."I was depressed that after seeing signs everywhere praising and thanking the NHS, my area went and elected an MP for a party ideology opposed to the NHS. | |||
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"Totally agree. They will be saying that you need a vaccine that combats the new variant omicron and when that mutates to another variant they will be saying that another type of vaccine is needed again and it will go on and on. More restrictions, more freedoms being taking away and possible more lockdowns needed and even more reason to move to plan C and who’s knows their might even be a plan D down the line. The goal post is moved every other day. " Always look on the bright side of life
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country.
People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like.
I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on !
I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s.
Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all !
Amazing to see how much influence the Daily Mail still has in the 21st century.
I was depressed that after seeing signs everywhere praising and thanking the NHS, my area went and elected an MP for a party ideology opposed to the NHS."So you think the NHS is good and fit for purpose then.? | |||
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"I’m losing track of all the rules, I don’t have a TV, do we have to go out into the street still and clap when he comes on ? " Not sure they've ever really changed.. If you're well do what you can to avoid catching it and if you're ill do what you can to avoid spreading it.... Kind of true for most infectious diseases. | |||
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"It seems Johnson didn't warn the NHS about his announcement beforehand. So we're now out of lateral flow tests and the website to book boosters crashed after loads of people rushed to it. It's as if he did no actual planning and his announcement was rushed out to distract from Partygate." I'm not defending him but at the same time... People have been being sensible and testing anyway right? So announcing we are going to jab more people should have no impact whatsoever on testing resources. Which by the way are still available at pharmacies... Not engaging nhs.. Find that hard to believe that nobody from NHS is involved in their weekly meetings.... But still... | |||
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"I’m losing track of all the rules, I don’t have a TV, do we have to go out into the street still and clap when he comes on ? " Yes, but it is every other night at 19:30, pots and pans for maximum noise, don't let us down. | |||
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"It seems Johnson didn't warn the NHS about his announcement beforehand. So we're now out of lateral flow tests and the website to book boosters crashed after loads of people rushed to it. It's as if he did no actual planning and his announcement was rushed out to distract from Partygate. I'm not defending him but at the same time... People have been being sensible and testing anyway right? So announcing we are going to jab more people should have no impact whatsoever on testing resources. Which by the way are still available at pharmacies... Not engaging nhs.. Find that hard to believe that nobody from NHS is involved in their weekly meetings.... But still... " Find that hard to believe??
This 'government' has been acting this way from before this thing was even a pandemic and people still defend them!
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"It seems Johnson didn't warn the NHS about his announcement beforehand. So we're now out of lateral flow tests and the website to book boosters crashed after loads of people rushed to it. It's as if he did no actual planning and his announcement was rushed out to distract from Partygate. I'm not defending him but at the same time... People have been being sensible and testing anyway right? So announcing we are going to jab more people should have no impact whatsoever on testing resources. Which by the way are still available at pharmacies... Not engaging nhs.. Find that hard to believe that nobody from NHS is involved in their weekly meetings.... But still... Find that hard to believe??
This 'government' has been acting this way from before this thing was even a pandemic and people still defend them!
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"Nope not defending them. They've been dreadful. But equally let's not just make shut up. We've got enough to deal with without pretending stuff too. " And your basis for that is what? I see a government with a track record for not notifying bodies in advance of decisions that will impact them. Ask any headteacher to begin with. The only sector that seems to get any kind of advance notice of things these days is the media. | |||
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"It seems Johnson didn't warn the NHS about his announcement beforehand. So we're now out of lateral flow tests and the website to book boosters crashed after loads of people rushed to it. It's as if he did no actual planning and his announcement was rushed out to distract from Partygate. I'm not defending him but at the same time... People have been being sensible and testing anyway right? So announcing we are going to jab more people should have no impact whatsoever on testing resources. Which by the way are still available at pharmacies... Not engaging nhs.. Find that hard to believe that nobody from NHS is involved in their weekly meetings.... But still... " To collect at a pharmacy, firstly you now have to generate a QR code and secondly need a pharmacy that's open. Many people don't know or understand how to do the QR code thing. Many people work during the opening hours of their local pharmacy or live a long way from the nearest pharmacy. It is not straightforward for everyone to pile into the nearest branch of Cohen's, brandishing their smartphone QR code, as much as we might think it is. Round here, packs of LFTs can be collected from leisure centres and other council run public buildings but if you don't routinely go to those places, you probably don't know about them either. I didn't know leisure centres had them until I decided to take my daughter swimming, for example. It's advertised inside the building but nowhere else. I use a private gym (not a council one) so they don't stock them. Etc. | |||
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"I can hear NHS workers across the country shouting at the TV.
Appointments have been cancelled over and over even before this announcement. Services have never come anywhere near pre-COVID (remembering in many cases, the pre-COVID services were not coping either).
My comment is not a sleight on the NHS workers/staff, but rather a damning of the system and the lack of funding/priority given to healthcare.
The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world, which is obscene if you actually think about the size of the country.
People bang on about underfunding, but then fail to look at the Chief Executives of each health trust that are paid £250 - £300K per annum; which is obscene really, then with all the raft of new funding announced there has been numerous adverts in medical journals for diversity representatives or the like.
I’m not saying that diversity isn’t an issue to be ignored, but the NHS is a public service paid for by our taxes (around 22% of it now), is that the best they’ve got to spend the additional funding on !
I also have issues with Chief Executives been paid the same salaries at those at major Plc’s.
Please can we get back to hospitals, doctors, nurses and support staff, I couldn’t give a fook about woke jobs just for the sake of it and management filling the faces with cream cakes and doing fook all !
Amazing to see how much influence the Daily Mail still has in the 21st century.
I was depressed that after seeing signs everywhere praising and thanking the NHS, my area went and elected an MP for a party ideology opposed to the NHS."who got elected for hertfordshire? Dowden? | |||
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"It It seems as human we always do things more extreme than the time before, if flu was to start now I suppose we would have reacted the same way That’s a really weird thing to say. If corvid had been historically endemic like polio and smallpox, people would still have tried to eliminate it as soon as modern vaccines were invented. Just like they did with all other endemic diseases. Some diseases proved susceptible to modern medicine and some haven’t, but that’s no reason not to try. The idea that corvid is no worse than flu is incorrect, and irrelevant anyway. We don’t know if we can eliminate it unless we try, and people resisting that effort confuses me. The fact that some people still deem covid with any regards when the means in which the stats have been collated and presented to us has been a false from day 1 is beyond me. It's akin to when people try to cite studies when the study in question has poor controls. It reduces its credibility. Covid is like the flue. If you are susceptible then take measures. If you aren't then crack on. But the fact of the matter is the population would benefit more from doing 3 easy runs a week and dropping 20lb of fat than they would a vaccine that isn't even a vaccine. Loads of people had no idea that they were "susceptible" until they suddenly were needing a hospital bed. "Yes and then suffering 'long COVID', people who are young, fit with no underlying heath conditions. That must be conspiracy also!! | |||
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