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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... " I agree I am done with this lockdown shite | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite " We're not in lockdown. Winston. | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite We're not in lockdown. Winston." We will be restricted after Xmas | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite " Totally agree they do not know whether this strain is resistant to the jabs and scare mongering. Covering there own backs after last year's Christmas party whistle blow at downing Street.  | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite We're not in lockdown. Winston. We will be restricted after Xmas " Can you give me 6 numbers between 0 and 51 please. Winston | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite We're not in lockdown. Winston. We will be restricted after Xmas Can you give me 6 numbers between 0 and 51 please. Winston "  
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance" why proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time" We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368 | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Just don't go | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Compulsory lft test on arrival and wait outside for 15 mins | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59602984 | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-59602984 " Yes - businesses have very little wiggle room, and most of them know it. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Compulsory lft test on arrival and wait outside for 15 mins" This would be a good idea and would stop the apparently large number of people willing to cheat the tests, I would have no problem doing this. | |||
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"People could still cheat the test. They could bring one with them which was already showing negative" Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Compulsory lft test on arrival and wait outside for 15 mins This would be a good idea and would stop the apparently large number of people willing to cheat the tests, I would have no problem doing this." Yeah. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things". If people cheat the system, the system will have to clamp down. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Compulsory lft test on arrival and wait outside for 15 mins This would be a good idea and would stop the apparently large number of people willing to cheat the tests, I would have no problem doing this. Yeah. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things". If people cheat the system, the system will have to clamp down." Yup I really don't get why people are so selfish the feel the need to cheat an lft test, it's a quick swab and a 15 min wait, to me it shows that some people just lack any form of respect for other peoples safety and personally I don't think they are the type of people you want in a swinging club where respect for rules and safety are paramount. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Compulsory lft test on arrival and wait outside for 15 mins This would be a good idea and would stop the apparently large number of people willing to cheat the tests, I would have no problem doing this. Yeah. The whole "this is why we can't have nice things". If people cheat the system, the system will have to clamp down. Yup I really don't get why people are so selfish the feel the need to cheat an lft test, it's a quick swab and a 15 min wait, to me it shows that some people just lack any form of respect for other peoples safety and personally I don't think they are the type of people you want in a swinging club where respect for rules and safety are paramount." Quite | |||
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" Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it" It is a bit logistically difficult for a club to have enough space to lay out about one hundred tests | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Shut the supermarkets first, it's safer. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Shut the supermarkets first, it's safer. " And all the pubs bars and restaurants Suddenly covid as become a swingers virus | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " I think you do not need to go also could stop telling others what to do. | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat "We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment? | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? I think you do not need to go also could stop telling others what to do. "I do believe we're discussing public policy, not telling people what to do. | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance" I think that proof of recent test should do but they need to sort out that you send a photo when you register your test | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment?"Ooo now i get it you can only get covid from penatrive sexy  . So do all these bobs only go to swingers clubs or do you think maybe they go shopping, to the pub maybe , concerts ? Football matches ? All these places where thousands upon on thousands of people go on a daily basis mixing people who may have covid and not even know about it but we don’t need a test to get in ? No Bob only goes out once a week to his local swingers club ffs | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment?
Ooo now i get it you can only get covid from penatrive sexy . So do all these bobs only go to swingers clubs or do you think maybe they go shopping, to the pub maybe , concerts ? Football matches ? All these places where thousands upon on thousands of people go on a daily basis mixing people who may have covid and not even know about it but we don’t need a test to get in ? No Bob only goes out once a week to his local swingers club ffs "don't be pedantic the discussion is about clubs so that was why I used that example, but to answer you Bob is still a knob if he goes to the shops ir a football match or the cinema or concerts knowing he may have covid. Nothing to do with penetrative sex either as he could have gone to the club just to get a blowie which would leave his knob wet aswell .  | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment?
Ooo now i get it you can only get covid from penatrive sexy . So do all these bobs only go to swingers clubs or do you think maybe they go shopping, to the pub maybe , concerts ? Football matches ? All these places where thousands upon on thousands of people go on a daily basis mixing people who may have covid and not even know about it but we don’t need a test to get in ? No Bob only goes out once a week to his local swingers club ffs
don't be pedantic the discussion is about clubs so that was why I used that example, but to answer you Bob is still a knob if he goes to the shops ir a football match or the cinema or concerts knowing he may have covid. Nothing to do with penetrative sex either as he could have gone to the club just to get a blowie which would leave his knob wet aswell ."Being pedantic because the thread is about shutting clubs I’m just pointing out the facts that’s there is no real measures in place for protecting you from covid in day to day life and there is probably 99.9% chance of you catching it from going about your daily business as there is from a swingers club . So no shutting clubs is complete Bollocks for those who have concerns don’t go , but let people have choices | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368" One side of the story. If law of this land is upheld those who lawfully resist would have fines dropped. Sadly the bar is part of the corrupt system although individuals who challenged their fines in many cases had them dropped.
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368 One side of the story. If law of this land is upheld those who lawfully resist would have fines dropped. Sadly the bar is part of the corrupt system although individuals who challenged their fines in many cases had them dropped.
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But atm I’m living for the gym & vanilla nights out with friends just to keep me sane | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368 One side of the story. If law of this land is upheld those who lawfully resist would have fines dropped. Sadly the bar is part of the corrupt system although individuals who challenged their fines in many cases had them dropped.
... I mean yeah, in the fairy tale system where the law is defined by the sovereign citizen/Freeman on the land movement "All men and women are governed by consent! Only a fairy tale system to those who wish to be treated as the corporation your dealt with as. And those who wish to deny it to further extend the over reach of the law. Many normies will argue against things that don’t fit what they desire.  | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . " What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " It did'nt seem to do France any good, they have banned unvaccinated people from clubs since July this year and have now closed for 4 weeks because of outbreaks!!?? | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? " This!!!!!!! At least if you’re unvaccinated you’ll be showing proof that you’re negative whereas if you’re vaxxed you could be be positive without symptoms but won’t know as you only need your passport to get into places | |||
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" Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it It is a bit logistically difficult for a club to have enough space to lay out about one hundred tests" They could duck tape it to the person's genitals. | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment?" | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Well theres lots that dont think this, so you do whats right fir you, and let others live how they want, and also let owners earn a living | |||
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"Reading the scientists ‘piss their pants’ scare everyone to death predictions of cases doubling would mean by around the 16th January 2002 that the whole population would have this virus, which is complete bollox. Forget the shyte coming out of Javid’s and Sturgeon’s mouths we have just under 1,900 cases of Omricon with no hospitalisations or death to date. Before we start shutting the country down again because of a virus that we are told by WHO is mild compared to other variants I’d like to see how things transpire over the next few weeks. This time last year a good friend of mine took his life because of ‘dickhead’ Boris’s last minute lockdown that destroyed his catering business that supplied pubs and restaurants ! As for the claim the NHS will be overwhelmed, that happens every year with flu, we can’t be held prisoners in our house just to protect the NHS ! And those that say the NHS is underfunded, then a serious question needs asking about what they do with the money they are allocated ! The NHS is the 5th largest employer in the world and yet has not enough doctors and nurses, what are these chief executives doing that are being paid £250K - £300 a year actually doing ? Our eldest daughter works for the NHS is a centrally based hospital, it’s had its first Covid19 patient in ICU last week since April, hardly the scenario painted by the press ! The trouble is with this country if it’s not the press, it’s the unions bullshitting what is actually happening for their own agenda, they don’t give a shit about the general public that pays taxes that keep them all in a job. " at last some comon sense | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " If you want to see a million infections before the end of the year people need to get their skates on and remember, If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " No…. Because to reopen they had to do things like improve the ventilation of their premises I do think people should have negative lft tests to attend… maybe that’s a different subject | |||
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"How about close this whole forum section down instead? All getting extremely devisive something what a liberated fun scene shouldn't be at all. Time to end this section let those make their own risk assesment & decisions to live life as they choose. If feel other way perhaps hide away till it ends,unfortunently for thise in fear it looks like the corrupt gloablists controlling the govt./media dont want it to " I don’t know why a Swingers site needs a forum section for ‘Virus’ it’s just totally crazy | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything" I'm pretty sure I can fake a negative RA test. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " I'm on the fence. however, if clubs should close, then so too should theatres, _estivals and undergrounds. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " clubs are no where near as bad as public transport just now. | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything" Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Perhaps we shut down your livelihood? How would you feel then? | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance I think that proof of recent test should do but they need to sort out that you send a photo when you register your test " Anyone could take test and send with your photo, couldn't they? Proof of jabs and id is enough! | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. " 80% in hospital are non vaxed | |||
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"Nowhere should have to close because of this virus, people should be able to make their own choices" Venues will stay open it will be the individual who will be refused entry when they scan the national id card disguised as a vaccine passport to enter a club or venue. | |||
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"I would have tighter restrictions because people clearly aren’t using a common sense approach to this situation. " As evidenced in these very threads. Winston | |||
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"Since LFTs aren’t 100% accurate, what’s the point in taking them. Both the LFT and PCR tests rely upon the swabs being taken properly so there’s an element of human error as well. Negative LFT can still result in a positive PCR. " And positive LFT can still result in a negative PCR. | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. " This, plus why close your business when you can legally trade? Should all pubs close? All restaurants? All take aways? Buses Tubes Trains Where does it stop? | |||
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"Individuals or businesses, I don't think many are gonna obey another restriction from this government or any other for a long time We already know what happens when businesses fuck around - they find out. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-57750368 One side of the story. If law of this land is upheld those who lawfully resist would have fines dropped. Sadly the bar is part of the corrupt system although individuals who challenged their fines in many cases had them dropped.
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All men and women are governed by consent!
Only a fairy tale system to those who wish to be treated as the corporation your dealt with as. And those who wish to deny it to further extend the over reach of the law. Many normies will argue against things that don’t fit what they desire. "Sure, everything needa consent in a democracy. But freeman on the land isn't a viable solution and has no standing. | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? " The passports can be used to access various data, including test results. | |||
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"Open!!! We're gonna be living with covid for years to come, we all need to get vaccinated and test as part of our Normal routine now. This is the only way. Businesses can no longer suffer, we all just need to adapt. Just my thoughts " A balanced thought | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? The passports can be used to access various data, including test results. " Why should anyone need to share any other data aside from a negative test? | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? The passports can be used to access various data, including test results. Why should anyone need to share any other data aside from a negative test?" Because lateral flow tests are far from 100% accurate and can be faked | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? The passports can be used to access various data, including test results. Why should anyone need to share any other data aside from a negative test? Because lateral flow tests are far from 100% accurate and can be faked" You can still catch and transmit disease even if you're vaccinated so vax is far from 100% effective and can be faked. So what's your point? | |||
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"I'd think vax passport and negative test results should be fine, alongside track and trace info, should anyone later prove to be infected . What are vax passports supposed to achieve when one already is presenting a negative test? The passports can be used to access various data, including test results. Why should anyone need to share any other data aside from a negative test?" All NHS data regarding covid, including your jabs and test results, are handled by Palantir. A US corporation. Which started by being partially funded by the CIA.... | |||
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"I think you are in the wrong forum section. Also, nobody forces you to go to a club if you don't feel safe there. It's a personal choice, but I think hospitality has been severely affected by lockdowns already so it's not fair on them to have to close again, especially when there is no help from the government anymore. K" ^^^This | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite " ditto | |||
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"I would rather places stay open: require proof of negative test and limit the amounts of people that can attend. Things need to start getting back to ‘normal’. " Which test? PCR or LFT? PCR is only available for symptomatic people, unless you pay. An LFT even if done properly has a near-50% error rate for the negative result. 100% if you fake it. As soonnas covid moves through a club/pub that part of the hospitality industry will have a problem. We haven’tbeven started on civil litigation, that’s yet to come. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " I think they will be closing soon enough. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Pubs, Christmas Parties and schools. They should be closed if he is serious about Christmas. Friend of mine who works at a school are expecting 70% of kids pulling 'sickies' early next week to get kids out early to protect families.. | |||
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" Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it It is a bit logistically difficult for a club to have enough space to lay out about one hundred tests" In which case - its tough, they should close.. | |||
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"People could still cheat the test. They could bring one with them which was already showing negative Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it" There's a good idea especially if it comes back positive and now are others | |||
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"I think you are in the wrong forum section. Also, nobody forces you to go to a club if you don't feel safe there. It's a personal choice, but I think hospitality has been severely affected by lockdowns already so it's not fair on them to have to close again, especially when there is no help from the government anymore. K" Well said. | |||
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"If you're worried, don't go. " | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance" Double Vax can carry the virus and pass it on For true safety negative tests should be standard | |||
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"If you're worried, don't go. "Aye. But people don't want to live in misery alone. So they'll call for lockdowns because (say it with me) We're all in this together | |||
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"I think you are in the wrong forum section. Also, nobody forces you to go to a club if you don't feel safe there. It's a personal choice, but I think hospitality has been severely affected by lockdowns already so it's not fair on them to have to close again, especially when there is no help from the government anymore. K" Completely agree. Everyone should be free to make there own choices and risks. | |||
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" Simple you do the test and leave it with the staff on a card with your name on it It is a bit logistically difficult for a club to have enough space to lay out about one hundred tests In which case - its tough, they should close.." Youre not a fan of clubs then.... Winston | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance Double Vax can carry the virus and pass it on For true safety negative tests should be standard" But they can be faked and are not entirely accurate | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
We are all trying for "some form of normality" but I am sorry to say that cheating a simple lft test is in fact very selfish and unnecessary if you have nothing to hide, going to a club knowing you could have covid is just a dick move, what if person A who has a weakened immune system is there with friends that have all tested negative enjoying an evening out, but suddenly Bob the knob arrives who knows he potentially has covid cheats his lft just so he can get into the club with the hope of getting his end away and happens to be in close contact with person A, does Bob's need to get his knob wet outweigh person A's right to a night out in a safe environment?
Ooo now i get it you can only get covid from penatrive sexy . So do all these bobs only go to swingers clubs or do you think maybe they go shopping, to the pub maybe , concerts ? Football matches ? All these places where thousands upon on thousands of people go on a daily basis mixing people who may have covid and not even know about it but we don’t need a test to get in ? No Bob only goes out once a week to his local swingers club ffs
don't be pedantic the discussion is about clubs so that was why I used that example, but to answer you Bob is still a knob if he goes to the shops ir a football match or the cinema or concerts knowing he may have covid. Nothing to do with penetrative sex either as he could have gone to the club just to get a blowie which would leave his knob wet aswell ."unfortunatly the world is full of Bob type people who only care about themselves, until this changes things like stds covid etc will always be a problem | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite " same here, | |||
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"No, they've been persecuted enough! The same with hospitality..... I agree I am done with this lockdown shite same here, " We're not in lockdown. Winston | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed" Ok….Wheres that statistic from? Also…what revenants does that have when we are talking about spreading the virus? Are you trying to say.. Vaxs cant spread or catch it, with a comment of “80% in hospital are non vaxed” because that makes no sense? | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " Why?? No one has yet been admitted to hospital or died of this new strain have they ? I think it's just another rouse to scare people into getting the booster jab | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed Ok….Wheres that statistic from? Also…what revenants does that have when we are talking about spreading the virus? Are you trying to say.. Vaxs cant spread or catch it, with a comment of “80% in hospital are non vaxed” because that makes no sense? " You say 80% in hospital are unvaccinated ??? Okay so that means that 20 of vaccinated people who are being complacent "with an I'm alright jack attitude" are there too in South Africa hospital admission's have been for other illnesses but COVID has also been detected after admitting none have been COVID alone that comes from there health minister all deaths in the UK that have been down to COVID have not shown what else they has been on the certificate "WHY?" If this was broken down it would show who is actually vulnerable instead of saying everybody is vulnerable | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittance" Double vaccination and booster. Keep them open but if you go to any venue and don't feel safe, leave. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? Why?? No one has yet been admitted to hospital or died of this new strain have they ? I think it's just another rouse to scare people into getting the booster jab " https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/12/uk-has-omicron-covid-patients-in-hospital-government-confirms | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? I think you do not need to go also could stop telling others what to do.
I do believe we're discussing public policy, not telling people what to do."The statement is we think clubs, should close that is opinion it is not government guidance. Many people are ready for Life to get back to normal we all missed over a year of our lives we know the reality and accept the risk we are putting ourselves in so letters make our own choices. This is not just clubs it is an attack on our Liberty from those who do not accept their own rules. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " keep them open - proof of triple jabs, negative covid tests; and wear masks makes it complete safe -pretty much back to normal as we were promised. Just 2 weeks to flatten the curve…. | |||
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " We think they should stay open | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed Oh come on. Where do you get that figure from? According to the latest weekly covid surveillance report for the last 4 weeks there have been (rounding to the nearest 100}.. Approx 8000 admissions with covid and of those Approx 4800 were vaccinated and Approx 3200 were unvaccinated. So it would be good if you shared your source please. " But since we know that the vaccinated/unvaccinated number is somewhere around 85/15… that would mean using your numbers that someone unvaccinated is roughly 3-4 times more likely to end up in hospital than someone who is vaccinated | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed Oh come on. Where do you get that figure from? According to the latest weekly covid surveillance report for the last 4 weeks there have been (rounding to the nearest 100}.. Approx 8000 admissions with covid and of those Approx 4800 were vaccinated and Approx 3200 were unvaccinated. So it would be good if you shared your source please. But since we know that the vaccinated/unvaccinated number is somewhere around 85/15… that would mean using your numbers that someone unvaccinated is roughly 3-4 times more likely to end up in hospital than someone who is vaccinated Pure speculation. We’ve all been told 1 in 3 has it without knowing and that’s from the start of the outbreak when no one was vaccinated " A hidden disease. Most people live not knowing and live healthy lifestyles. The most unknown “illness” is high BP. we survive. Let people live. | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed Oh come on. Where do you get that figure from? According to the latest weekly covid surveillance report for the last 4 weeks there have been (rounding to the nearest 100}.. Approx 8000 admissions with covid and of those Approx 4800 were vaccinated and Approx 3200 were unvaccinated. So it would be good if you shared your source please. But since we know that the vaccinated/unvaccinated number is somewhere around 85/15… that would mean using your numbers that someone unvaccinated is roughly 3-4 times more likely to end up in hospital than someone who is vaccinated " Sure. That's not what was stated and to which I was responding though. Hence me calling it out as the bullshit it was. The quote was 80 per cent in hospital are unvaccinated. Which is im sure even you will admit inaccurate / a lie. It has been evidenced in the past that youre more likely to need hospital care if you are unvaccinated and have caught covid in rates per 100k. They've now stopped reporting rates per 100k in the weekly surveillance report which is where I go for facts. But week 41 showed depending on age group anywhere between 2 and 8 times more likely. | |||
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"Keep open.. proof of double vacc for admittancewhy proof of double vaxxed? They can still be carrying it,surley a neg test is a better option if you gona be asking for proof of anything Massive fan of providing a Negative test for larger events or close Proximity areas. People have this weird thing about being vaxed. They still catch it, they still spread it. Being vaxed does not mean you are immune or it does not mean you cant spread it. Providing a negative test is the best avoidance of spreading we have at the moment. 80% in hospital are non vaxed Oh come on. Where do you get that figure from? According to the latest weekly covid surveillance report for the last 4 weeks there have been (rounding to the nearest 100}.. Approx 8000 admissions with covid and of those Approx 4800 were vaccinated and Approx 3200 were unvaccinated. So it would be good if you shared your source please. But since we know that the vaccinated/unvaccinated number is somewhere around 85/15… that would mean using your numbers that someone unvaccinated is roughly 3-4 times more likely to end up in hospital than someone who is vaccinated Sure. That's not what was stated and to which I was responding though. Hence me calling it out as the bullshit it was. The quote was 80 per cent in hospital are unvaccinated. Which is im sure even you will admit inaccurate / a lie. It has been evidenced in the past that youre more likely to need hospital care if you are unvaccinated and have caught covid in rates per 100k. They've now stopped reporting rates per 100k in the weekly surveillance report which is where I go for facts. But week 41 showed depending on age group anywhere between 2 and 8 times more likely. " Actually they still do the per 100k figures, but they do them for local areas rather than national… for national they now give you a “ 1 in “ figure to make it easier for people to understand ( last week the figure for people who had covid in England was 1 in 60, wales was 1 in 50, Scotland and Northern Ireland were 1 in 45) But yes… if you are smart you can work it out on just the hospitalisation figures (if 10-15% of people account for 40-45% of hospitalisations…. Your figures… 3-4 times more likely to end up in hospital) I am guessing the 80% claim may be for those who are in iCU rather than just hospital… which would make sense with the delta figures…. | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat "That!!! | |||
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"Can you only catch covid in swingers clubs ? Let’s just close the world and all stay indoors watching the news . Get on with your life live and let live . Sick of hearing people calling others selfish for trying to have some form of normality. Anyone who is afraid of covid can protect themselves by staying away from people staying at home and not mixing with society. We don’t all want to sit indoors wearing a tinfoil hat
That!!!"They are absolutely right! You can catch covid anywhere and looking at how contagious is this new variant, everyone will be exposed to it soon, wherever they try to hide. You like it, or not, there is no way to stop this virus from catching people, the only way is to strengthen our immune systems. With boosters, jabs, healthy food, exercise, etc. At this time it's pointless to shut businesses and destroy the economy because the virus will spread anyway. I'm sitting in my room, self-isolating with absolutely zero symptoms, and the only reason why I know that I have covid is that I planned a club night for the weekend and took a test - tried to do my bit not to be the one who infects others. I was shocked when it showed positive, I repeated it, positive again. Actually, if swinger clubs were closed I would have never known that I have Covid, and would still spread the virus in my work where I meet dozens of people each day... If I go to a swinger party, I will have a closer connection with only those 1-2 girls (let's call it a lucky night and say 3, haha) I will play with. The rest of the interactions are nothing closer that I have in work with hundreds of people weekly... Right now it's pointless to shut clubs. Boost your immune system, that's the only thing that one can do. | |||
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"You think clubs should close OP??? When was your latest meet...oh yeah 2 days ago. ""Clubs should close" thread started 11th December 2021. Visits club 13 December 2021. I'm not sure if that's irony or hypocrisy. Winston | |||
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"You think clubs should close OP??? When was your latest meet...oh yeah 2 days ago.
"Clubs should close" thread started 11th December 2021.
Visits club 13 December 2021.
I'm not sure if that's irony or hypocrisy.
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"We think clubs need to close with covid outbreak thoughts? " So this virus will be with us for years. So should they closed next year and the year after and the year after that!!! Shutting things down at this stage is ruining businesses and the economy, I bet you would not be saying this if your livelihood depended on them. | |||
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"You think clubs should close OP??? When was your latest meet...oh yeah 2 days ago.
"Clubs should close" thread started 11th December 2021.
Visits club 13 December 2021.
I'm not sure if that's irony or hypocrisy.
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"This government is taking the mick How can you close clubs and take us back into lockdown after promising us that taking the vaccine is our way back to a near normal life. I got vaccinated because I was promised I'd be able to go to clubs etc and now they wanna close it down just coz they can that's bs if you ask me.. Personally I'd protest if there's another lockdown Idc coz thT means If they could do that this year they'd do it next year again. It'll be a yearly lockdown just coz of the amount of power it gives them.." So the Government are not doing it for Public Health reasons then, they are doing it because it gives the Government power? xx | |||
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"You think clubs should close OP??? When was your latest meet...oh yeah 2 days ago.
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I'm not sure if that's irony or hypocrisy.
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"Remember that doesn’t work either as your not apparently safe even if vaxxed So if you go in a club with only double vaxxed and one person is positive your all get it Test fir everyone on arrival vaxed or unvaxed is the safest and most sensible way forward then no one gets treated like a leaper Obviously it’s discrimination otherwise " 80% of those filling the hospitals are not vaxed, that's the issue. | |||
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"80% of those filling the hospitals are not vaxed, that's the issue." Exactly. I'm double vacced and having covid right now. I would not even knew about it if I wasn't planning a club visit on Friday so tested myself for the sake of others. I was shocked when it showed positive. I double tested, positive again. Feeling fit, no symptoms at all, would love to go out tonight if I would not infectious. (obviously I won't) This is what vaccines offer. You can catch it, but in 90% of cases, it's like the flu (or even milder). Yes, there is another 10% but nothing is sure in life. Traffic pollution and accidents also cause deaths yet we don't ban driving. If all have had the vaccine, now we could go along with our life. We would catch the virus, but we always had the flu and did not locked down our life. The health system would not get overwhelmed. You can call it a human right to be stupid. So, I'm not angry for the unvacced and don't hate them. But I want to live a normal life, which should be my human right. They had the chance and still have to protect themselves, if they don't want to do that, good luck. But from now I don't care about them. Happens what happens. I will sit in my room until my self-isolation is over and I test negative. Later I will pick up the booster, and if doctors say that I need to vaccinate myself yearly, I will follow their advice. What I will not follow is to accept that from now we will need to hide under the rocks again and again to protect those who are unvacced. I will simply don't care. Good luck | |||
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"80% of those filling the hospitals are not vaxed, that's the issue. Exactly. I'm double vacced and having covid right now. I would not even knew about it if I wasn't planning a club visit on Friday so tested myself for the sake of others. I was shocked when it showed positive. I double tested, positive again. Feeling fit, no symptoms at all, would love to go out tonight if I would not infectious. (obviously I won't) This is what vaccines offer. You can catch it, but in 90% of cases, it's like the flu (or even milder). Yes, there is another 10% but nothing is sure in life. Traffic pollution and accidents also cause deaths yet we don't ban driving. If all have had the vaccine, now we could go along with our life. We would catch the virus, but we always had the flu and did not locked down our life. The health system would not get overwhelmed. You can call it a human right to be stupid. So, I'm not angry for the unvacced and don't hate them. But I want to live a normal life, which should be my human right. They had the chance and still have to protect themselves, if they don't want to do that, good luck. But from now I don't care about them. Happens what happens. I will sit in my room until my self-isolation is over and I test negative. Later I will pick up the booster, and if doctors say that I need to vaccinate myself yearly, I will follow their advice. What I will not follow is to accept that from now we will need to hide under the rocks again and again to protect those who are unvacced. I will simply don't care. Good luck" Have you had pcr? Lfts aren't very accurate | |||
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"Have you had pcr? Lfts aren't very accurate " No, I haven't. I did two LFT tests on Thursday evening and another one today. All positive. I tested myself regularly earlier too, it was always negative. So actually, I believe it. If anything get's worse with symptoms or I will not be able to make a negative test by the end of next week, I will ask for PCR. | |||
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"Have you had pcr? Lfts aren't very accurate No, I haven't. I did two LFT tests on Thursday evening and another one today. All positive. I tested myself regularly earlier too, it was always negative. So actually, I believe it. If anything get's worse with symptoms or I will not be able to make a negative test by the end of next week, I will ask for PCR." I would request a PCR test, you can do it online (https://www.gov.uk/get-coronavirus-test) you can get it delivered to your home xx | |||
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"Why ffs ? If lockdowns work why do we keep having them. Wake up." Which of the previous lockdowns didn't work? Which lockdown are we currently in? Winston | |||
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"Have you had pcr? Lfts aren't very accurate No, I haven't. I did two LFT tests on Thursday evening and another one today. All positive. I tested myself regularly earlier too, it was always negative. So actually, I believe it. If anything get's worse with symptoms or I will not be able to make a negative test by the end of next week, I will ask for PCR. I would request a PCR test, you can do it online (https://www.gov.uk/get-coronavirus-test) you can get it delivered to your home xx"Okay, as we are anonym here I will tell you why I don't do that. Actually, it says a lot about this entire situation what sort of social problems it causes. I've been asked not to do that by my flatmates. If I do, everyone in the house got locked down, and they are self-employed with no sick pay... They simply can't afford to stay at home without getting paid. It might be wrong, but trust me, there are hundreds of thousands in this situation. I am lucky, as I'm self-employed too, but got multiple income sources, and I can work and make money online from my room. Others are not... But again. If I wasn't planning to attend a swinger party, I would not even beware of this... | |||
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"Have you had pcr? Lfts aren't very accurate No, I haven't. I did two LFT tests on Thursday evening and another one today. All positive. I tested myself regularly earlier too, it was always negative. So actually, I believe it. If anything get's worse with symptoms or I will not be able to make a negative test by the end of next week, I will ask for PCR. I would request a PCR test, you can do it online (https://www.gov.uk/get-coronavirus-test) you can get it delivered to your home xx
Okay, as we are anonym here I will tell you why I don't do that. Actually, it says a lot about this entire situation what sort of social problems it causes.
I've been asked not to do that by my flatmates. If I do, everyone in the house got locked down, and they are self-employed with no sick pay... They simply can't afford to stay at home without getting paid. It might be wrong, but trust me, there are hundreds of thousands in this situation.
I am lucky, as I'm self-employed too, but got multiple income sources, and I can work and make money online from my room. Others are not...
But again. If I wasn't planning to attend a swinger party, I would not even beware of this..."Catch 22 situation babes. Although as long as your housemates are fully vaccinated (more that 14days after second vaccination) then they are not legally required to self isolate, the household is just advised to lateral flow for 7 days (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection) xx | |||
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"Catch 22 situation babes. Although as long as your housemates are fully vaccinated (more that 14days after second vaccination) then they are not legally required to self isolate, the household is just advised to lateral flow for 7 days (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection) xx" Yes, they are double vaccinated, they also followed everything being told so far, just like me. One of them already lost his job earlier coz of this shit, and got fed up with it completely. I'm the only outgoing person in the house,and I tested myself regularly when I went to party. It never showed positive. Now I got 3 positive results out of 3 tests, so I'm pretty sure it's accurate. I have no symptoms at all, and do not worry at all about my conditions. I stay at home, work online, the only thing I miss is going out, but I will wait with that now. I think right now I know exactly what is my situation, so there is no need for PCR test for me now. But thanks for the advice. | |||
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"Catch 22 situation babes. Although as long as your housemates are fully vaccinated (more that 14days after second vaccination) then they are not legally required to self isolate, the household is just advised to lateral flow for 7 days (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-stay-at-home-guidance/stay-at-home-guidance-for-households-with-possible-coronavirus-covid-19-infection) xx Yes, they are double vaccinated, they also followed everything being told so far, just like me. One of them already lost his job earlier coz of this shit, and got fed up with it completely. I'm the only outgoing person in the house,and I tested myself regularly when I went to party. It never showed positive. Now I got 3 positive results out of 3 tests, so I'm pretty sure it's accurate. I have no symptoms at all, and do not worry at all about my conditions. I stay at home, work online, the only thing I miss is going out, but I will wait with that now. I think right now I know exactly what is my situation, so there is no need for PCR test for me now. But thanks for the advice. "Take care and look after yourself babes xx | |||
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"(...) there is no real measures in place for protecting you from covid in day to day life and there is probably 99.9% chance of you catching it from going about your daily business as there is from a swingers club . So no shutting clubs is complete Bollocks for those who have concerns don’t go , but let people have choices " Exactly. When I got COVID in summer it was because my manager brought his school-aged children who were complaining that everything tasted funny into my workplace which was otherwise closed off to the public. I had no choice in the matter and although many public spaces were still closed off or only offering socially distanced table service at the time I still ended up catching it because the boss made a bad choice. Either everything has to be shut down again or we have to accept that things have to continue because it's impossible to know where every individual risk of infection lies, and that as individuals we need to seek to protect ourselves rather than rely on top down legislation that is like a sledgehammer being used to crack a nut. | |||
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"(...) there is no real measures in place for protecting you from covid in day to day life and there is probably 99.9% chance of you catching it from going about your daily business as there is from a swingers club . So no shutting clubs is complete Bollocks for those who have concerns don’t go , but let people have choices Exactly. When I got COVID in summer it was because my manager brought his school-aged children who were complaining that everything tasted funny into my workplace which was otherwise closed off to the public. I had no choice in the matter and although many public spaces were still closed off or only offering socially distanced table service at the time I still ended up catching it because the boss made a bad choice. Either everything has to be shut down again or we have to accept that things have to continue because it's impossible to know where every individual risk of infection lies, and that as individuals we need to seek to protect ourselves rather than rely on top down legislation that is like a sledgehammer being used to crack a nut. " That's terrible. What a dick. | |||
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