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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" dos he have the party in my house ? | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" The buck stops with the Prime Minister. The clue is there in the job title, even if it is quite subtle.. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know" You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? " I didn't say I knew anything. You implied you did by your post. I also didn't blame anyone What I did was question what you wrote | |||
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"I don’t know if Boris was responsible or not, but this time last year there was a function on here to report anyone you suspected were meeting or looking to meet. People were actually kicked off the site. If as a community we were doing the right thing I’m damn sure I’d expect the same of my government " This | |||
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"I don’t know if Boris was responsible or not, but this time last year there was a function on here to report anyone you suspected were meeting or looking to meet. People were actually kicked off the site. If as a community we were doing the right thing I’m damn sure I’d expect the same of my government This " Ditto.. | |||
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"I don’t know if Boris was responsible or not, but this time last year there was a function on here to report anyone you suspected were meeting or looking to meet. People were actually kicked off the site. If as a community we were doing the right thing I’m damn sure I’d expect the same of my government " Absolutely | |||
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"I’m not convinced that in this community everyone was doing the right thing all of the time… Anyway … it’s the season to be jolly… get on and make the most of it. Fa la la la la.. la la la la " We've sunk a long way, haven't we? "Some ordinary people might have broken the law. Therefore we can't hold politicians accountable for their criminal wrongdoing. Poor widdle Boris. He was doing his best." Tis the season to jolly well return to the rule of law and treat politicians like adults, not spoiled children who are unable to obey the law. | |||
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"I’m not convinced that in this community everyone was doing the right thing all of the time… Anyway … it’s the season to be jolly… get on and make the most of it. Fa la la la la.. la la la la " We, like many others did the right thing last year and that was to not see our grandchildren and share Christmas with them.. You might think it ok to dredge the depths of whataboutery to excuse a complete piss take by those meant to at least abide by the rules they wrote for the country, but many don't share that.. | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. " | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. " The video coming out - they thought this was funny. How many people didn't get to spend that last Christmas with someone they love? | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. The video coming out - they thought this was funny. How many people didn't get to spend that last Christmas with someone they love?" That's the bit that hurts a lot of people. | |||
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"I’m not convinced that in this community everyone was doing the right thing all of the time… Anyway … it’s the season to be jolly… get on and make the most of it. Fa la la la la.. la la la la We, like many others did the right thing last year and that was to not see our grandchildren and share Christmas with them.. You might think it ok to dredge the depths of whataboutery to excuse a complete piss take by those meant to at least abide by the rules they wrote for the country, but many don't share that.." Likewise….lots of sacrifices here as well. | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. The video coming out - they thought this was funny. How many people didn't get to spend that last Christmas with someone they love?" And for some, it was to be the last Christmas that they were to be alive and yet they and us put our needs aside, to respect the law and to support the greater good. It's inexcusable for people to not have followed the restrictions. | |||
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"I’m not convinced that in this community everyone was doing the right thing all of the time… Anyway … it’s the season to be jolly… get on and make the most of it. Fa la la la la.. la la la la We, like many others did the right thing last year and that was to not see our grandchildren and share Christmas with them.. You might think it ok to dredge the depths of whataboutery to excuse a complete piss take by those meant to at least abide by the rules they wrote for the country, but many don't share that.. Likewise….lots of sacrifices here as well. " You just made a remarkably fast about turn since your last post above. Are you finally sick of defending this wretched government? | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. The video coming out - they thought this was funny. How many people didn't get to spend that last Christmas with someone they love? That's the bit that hurts a lot of people." They spit in our faces with all of this. It's just so galling. | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? " Considering how many people were said to have attended the party, for you to believe that he didn't know it happened is insane. His own press secretary knew, FFS. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" You must be on the payroll too | |||
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"Perhaps it's because thay all know that there is no need for any social distancing or mask wearing from the beginning. " If you want to help to increase exponential growth rates, in an area with a severe crisis, they could ignore evidence and play let's pretend, not giving a fuck about those further down the line, who could die. Morally bankrupt really. | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? Considering how many people were said to have attended the party, for you to believe that he didn't know it happened is insane. His own press secretary knew, FFS. " Boris and his circus are mugging the public off - their strategy is just to deny everything and hope it just goes away, but it's a slippery slope that is gathering pace. I have this feeling that something is going to break this government well before the next election | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? Considering how many people were said to have attended the party, for you to believe that he didn't know it happened is insane. His own press secretary knew, FFS. Boris and his circus are mugging the public off - their strategy is just to deny everything and hope it just goes away, but it's a slippery slope that is gathering pace. I have this feeling that something is going to break this government well before the next election" It's well past time. | |||
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"One thing is for certain if there was a p**s up at this party Boris couldn't have organized it " Lol, love it x | |||
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"Perhaps it's because thay all know that there is no need for any social distancing or mask wearing from the beginning. " Tim foil hat getting a bit tight? | |||
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"If he knew, he's undeniably in the wrong. If he didn't know, he's undeniably incompetent. In any case, since finding out, he should be investigating the situation and reprimanding those involved. How can this man be leading the country? " Because he rode the Brexit train to power. And lots of people ignored his many failings and many lies as long as he shouted "Brexit" loud enough and often enough. | |||
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"White powder found in the toilet in the house of commons." I started a thread about that in the politics section called: Palace of Cokeminster | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " You honestly think that? You really believe that? I mean.. I know Boris has his apologists, he even has his supporters. But wow. | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " Top notch deflection. Lol. This is the best "what about Labour" post ever. Fair play. Lol. | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " Laura Kunessberg wasn't at that party. She definitely tory leaning and until recently she was the go to journalist for government because they knew she would give them an easy ride. Starmer maybe boring but surely preferable to BJ. | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " It's a very interesting which hunt when you have recordings of the witches talking about the event. Also isn't being 'less out of touch' a good thing? | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " That is some next level whataboutery | |||
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"I know there are going to be people wanting to tow the party line … but tier 3 regulations, which London was in, stating no mixing outside your household or social bubble…. Work colleagues does not come under social bubbles!!!!! People have been fined for breaking the rules… This is way worse than Barnard Castle…. How will anyone listen to any rules now " Exactly. With the prosecution of the alleged gathering in Ilford going through the courts at the exact same time, just makes it even more infuriating | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! " People are being prosecuted right now for gatherings that happened on that date. Should they be let off? Or only the Tories? Why are they above the laws the rest of us are expected to live by? No one is asking you to vote for Starmer. Personally, I'm just hoping that politicians obey the law or be held accountable like anyone else. I would say expecting but it's too much to ask at the moment. | |||
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"It is one rule for them and one for us." Agreed. They should be held to the same standards as us. People are being prosecuted for their parties last year. | |||
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"It is one rule for them and one for us. Agreed. They should be held to the same standards as us. People are being prosecuted for their parties last year." Yes they should have, also I think that for the elite, there are more things that they get away with too, regarding the rules that we have to follow, like distancing and the mask wearing. | |||
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"It is one rule for them and one for us. Agreed. They should be held to the same standards as us. People are being prosecuted for their parties last year.Yes they should have, also I think that for the elite, there are more things that they get away with too, regarding the rules that we have to follow, like distancing and the mask wearing." Indeed. I'm trying to do the right thing regardless of anyone else. But I think doing the right thing also includes holding leaders to account | |||
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"It is one rule for them and one for us. Agreed. They should be held to the same standards as us. People are being prosecuted for their parties last year.Yes they should have, also I think that for the elite, there are more things that they get away with too, regarding the rules that we have to follow, like distancing and the mask wearing. Indeed. I'm trying to do the right thing regardless of anyone else. But I think doing the right thing also includes holding leaders to account" That is good you do and yes, that should also include the leaders. | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! You honestly think that? You really believe that? I mean.. I know Boris has his apologists, he even has his supporters. But wow. " I'm with the last bit of the original post. Those obsessed with politics assume everyone is. In general I couldn't give two hoots about Politics. In my 50's and only ever voted twice in a GE and both times was to vote against someone I thought would be bad for the country in general. On the whole, all elections it's between just 2 parties and really it matters not who gets in, we'll get a fool either way, we'll have a honeymoon period then the tax payer gets in up the ass. Seems to be even worse if the said person or party has been in power for a while as they take the leadership for granted and a degree of apathy sets in. As said above, I couldn't give a shit about Boris or Kier, I wouldn't bother voting. But if forced to vote, I would vote Boris even though I think he's a charlatan. But the better of two clowns. Probably sums up politics in this country for a big proportion and unfortunately, we are the voters either particular party will need to swing so they win power, they take for granted the die hards who put their cross in their party of choice's box regardless at every single election. But those diehard Tories or Labour supporters votes arent enough to win a GE on there own. | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! You honestly think that? You really believe that? I mean.. I know Boris has his apologists, he even has his supporters. But wow. I'm with the last bit of the original post. Those obsessed with politics assume everyone is. In general I couldn't give two hoots about Politics. In my 50's and only ever voted twice in a GE and both times was to vote against someone I thought would be bad for the country in general. On the whole, all elections it's between just 2 parties and really it matters not who gets in, we'll get a fool either way, we'll have a honeymoon period then the tax payer gets in up the ass. Seems to be even worse if the said person or party has been in power for a while as they take the leadership for granted and a degree of apathy sets in. As said above, I couldn't give a shit about Boris or Kier, I wouldn't bother voting. But if forced to vote, I would vote Boris even though I think he's a charlatan. But the better of two clowns. Probably sums up politics in this country for a big proportion and unfortunately, we are the voters either particular party will need to swing so they win power, they take for granted the die hards who put their cross in their party of choice's box regardless at every single election. But those diehard Tories or Labour supporters votes arent enough to win a GE on there own." can I ask why you see Boris as being the better of the two clowns? | |||
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"Jacob Rees mogg, allegra Stratton and boris Johnson… vs Ant and Dec, Gary Neville and Marcus rashford…. I think if anyone says it’s just a Westminster story… the is cutting way beyond that…" When Ant an Dec are angrily taking the piss out of Johnson on tv, you know a story has achieved "cut through". | |||
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"What happens in his house is his responsibility and those who attended ‘said party’ knew the rules and the risks. I am responsible for ME and no one else It may have broken the rules but the Labour witch hunt is ridiculous! Laura Kunessberg can’t decide who’s camp she is in and media posts say she was there!! I wouldn’t vote for Kier Starmar EVER … he less out of touch with his public than Boris is!! You honestly think that? You really believe that? I mean.. I know Boris has his apologists, he even has his supporters. But wow. I'm with the last bit of the original post. Those obsessed with politics assume everyone is. In general I couldn't give two hoots about Politics. In my 50's and only ever voted twice in a GE and both times was to vote against someone I thought would be bad for the country in general. On the whole, all elections it's between just 2 parties and really it matters not who gets in, we'll get a fool either way, we'll have a honeymoon period then the tax payer gets in up the ass. Seems to be even worse if the said person or party has been in power for a while as they take the leadership for granted and a degree of apathy sets in. As said above, I couldn't give a shit about Boris or Kier, I wouldn't bother voting. But if forced to vote, I would vote Boris even though I think he's a charlatan. But the better of two clowns. Probably sums up politics in this country for a big proportion and unfortunately, we are the voters either particular party will need to swing so they win power, they take for granted the die hards who put their cross in their party of choice's box regardless at every single election. But those diehard Tories or Labour supporters votes arent enough to win a GE on there own.can I ask why you see Boris as being the better of the two clowns? " Don't know, as I said I'd have to be forced to vote for either. Couldn't care either way. Boris has made a career as MP, PM and Mayor of not doing much but getting away with the little he does. I believe most politicians are self serving, on the left they come across as career politicians who wouldnt survive in the private sector and on the right they come across as what's left of the private sector after all the decent ones have made it to board level and the failures turn to politics. Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson." America did something like that once and got TRUMPed. | |||
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"Genuinely feel a bit sorry for people who can't bring themselves to criticise the political party they support, even when they're blatantly taking the piss. They think they're better and more important than you, and all you can do is defend them. Must be sad living like that. " This 100%. The fanatics see no wrong. Excuse after excuse if that fails say, “something something Corbyn”. You won the election, now take some fucking responsibility | |||
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"Whoever had the party, knew about the party, or attended the party, and did not report the party, should be held to the same standard as any of us would be for the same breaches of the law as it was at the time " at last ..pragmatism... | |||
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"I bet Ian Hislop is having a field day with all of this Pure nectar for the satirists at HIGNFY, Private Eye and Spitting Image. They will dining out, on this shambles of a party for ages." to be fair, if there was a party, they qould have known about it a year ago...it would seem on balance of probability that an event happened that most people would say 'party'even if there are other names for a gathering of work colleagues in the workplace ... | |||
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"Whoever had the party, knew about the party, or attended the party, and did not report the party, should be held to the same standard as any of us would be for the same breaches of the law as it was at the time at last ..pragmatism..." More or less. But, if anything, they should be held to higher stanards as they're in government and they introduced the law they broke themselves while telling other people they had to follow it. | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. America did something like that once and got TRUMPed." I say let the Speaker take over as PM...after all he has been vited for by all MPS not just one side of the house... | |||
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"Well that was an interesting PMQs… So we have gone from there not being a party to him seemingly not knowing there was a party, but if there was a party those people would be thrown under the bus! But I don’t know.. ooh let’s have an inside enquiry!!!!!!!! He knows…. We know….. But let’s not look back, eh!!!!…….. That was about as bad a performance as I can remember " well he was talking about something that may have happened a year ago ...i am sure there are many things that he does know that qould add to the fuzziness | |||
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"The media just love to get their lowlife hooks into something & everyone loves a drama " Sure Time to make hay … | |||
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"The media just love to get their lowlife hooks into something & everyone loves a drama Sure Time to make hay …" Yup the media is to blame for Johnson's endless lies and fuck ups. | |||
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"The media just love to get their lowlife hooks into something & everyone loves a drama Sure Time to make hay …" in The Sun. (other tabloids are available) | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. America did something like that once and got TRUMPed. I say let the Speaker take over as PM...after all he has been vited for by all MPS not just one side of the house..." Never thought of that! | |||
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"Whoever had the party, knew about the party, or attended the party, and did not report the party, should be held to the same standard as any of us would be for the same breaches of the law as it was at the time at last ..pragmatism..." So, our law makers can tell us that "ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law" and not tell the PM what they are up to. Hypocritical or what? | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. America did something like that once and got TRUMPed." And now they've got a career politian in Biden, doing much the same as Trump with no one giving a shit. Did the US do so bad under Trump? People disliked Trump because he is Trump nothing was based on anything he did economy wise. As I said earlier, all Politians are self serving, those two are prime examples. Wouldn't vote for either. Funny how everything is so tribal, once someone has formed their views, nothing changes them, no matter how what the otherside does, the opposite all follow down the same pathway following or toeing the line and that goes for both tribes. | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. America did something like that once and got TRUMPed. And now they've got a career politian in Biden, doing much the same as Trump with no one giving a shit. Did the US do so bad under Trump? People disliked Trump because he is Trump nothing was based on anything he did economy wise. As I said earlier, all Politians are self serving, those two are prime examples. Wouldn't vote for either. Funny how everything is so tribal, once someone has formed their views, nothing changes them, no matter how what the otherside does, the opposite all follow down the same pathway following or toeing the line and that goes for both tribes." What is a "Politian'?? | |||
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" Be nice to see how a person who has actually been in business running the country would get on, someone like a Sugar or Branson. America did something like that once and got TRUMPed. And now they've got a career politian in Biden, doing much the same as Trump with no one giving a shit. Did the US do so bad under Trump? People disliked Trump because he is Trump nothing was based on anything he did economy wise. As I said earlier, all Politians are self serving, those two are prime examples. Wouldn't vote for either. Funny how everything is so tribal, once someone has formed their views, nothing changes them, no matter how what the otherside does, the opposite all follow down the same pathway following or toeing the line and that goes for both tribes. What is a "Politian'??" Dunno auto speller changes it to that, from my effort. Suppose it can only work with what it's given. I just accept what it suggest when the squiggly red line pops up. Life's too short to proof read, forum posts. Its not like i'm writing a letter to a politician. If it's wrong it's wrong, it's not like it is to hard to work out what it is supposed to read. | |||
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"Poor Boris couldn't have been at the party at No 10, he was too busy refurbishing his flat at No 11 as he couldn't get anybody to pay for it. " Boris in dungarees, climbing a ladder? PFFFF! | |||
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"People saying Boris should know what is going on in his house. Facts, 10 Downing Street has over 100 rooms plus is linked to other buildings by passages, ie The Cabinet offices again with multiple rooms. No 10 is staffed by over 170 people. So tell me if you were asleep/watching tv in your top floor flat would you know what was happening in your basement? Before you start ranting, just thing how many of you have gone into a flooded bathroom a messy kitchen because you didn't know what your children were upto in the next room. I am not defending the party if it took place, just trying to put some perspective on it." The government employed them, have you heard of corporate responsibility. | |||
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"People saying Boris should know what is going on in his house. Facts, 10 Downing Street has over 100 rooms plus is linked to other buildings by passages, ie The Cabinet offices again with multiple rooms. No 10 is staffed by over 170 people. So tell me if you were asleep/watching tv in your top floor flat would you know what was happening in your basement? Before you start ranting, just thing how many of you have gone into a flooded bathroom a messy kitchen because you didn't know what your children were upto in the next room. I am not defending the party if it took place, just trying to put some perspective on it. The government employed them, have you heard of corporate responsibility. " Obviously I have, however it's a party held by people that work in an office together not corporate manslaughter. | |||
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"People saying Boris should know what is going on in his house. Facts, 10 Downing Street has over 100 rooms plus is linked to other buildings by passages, ie The Cabinet offices again with multiple rooms. No 10 is staffed by over 170 people. So tell me if you were asleep/watching tv in your top floor flat would you know what was happening in your basement? Before you start ranting, just thing how many of you have gone into a flooded bathroom a messy kitchen because you didn't know what your children were upto in the next room. I am not defending the party if it took place, just trying to put some perspective on it. The government employed them, have you heard of corporate responsibility. Obviously I have, however it's a party held by people that work in an office together not corporate manslaughter. " There were apparently lots of parties. Not just 1. There was allegedly even 1 in Johnson's own flat. And Johnson apparently turned up to at least 1. You think he didn't know anything about any of them? There's also the Stratton vid that showed the utter contempt she and the others had for the rules most of us followed. There's also a Mogg vid showing him laughing and joking about lockdowns/parties, again showing the contempt they held us in. There's also cops and security and CCTV all over No 10. There is no way in hell the cops and Johnson did not know what went on. Then there's the fact every party like this did put lives at risk. Suddenly that manslaughter you mentioned sounds more relevant. Then there's the tiny fact Johnson is supposedly the PM. The guy with whom the buck stops. And he's supposed to be honest and set some sort of example, esp in a pandemic. Yet he continually lies and runs away from any sort of responsibility. His actions tells us all he doesn't give a damn about the rules most of us followed. And he thinks those rules do not apply to him and his. | |||
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"When are people going to wake up? Quite frankly these people have worked their nads off to try and protect us. Furthermore, they worked together throughout their long days. So they may have relaxed afterwards and maybe even had a small drink - jeez, no different to any other organisation. I worked in a multi-person environment at this time, my Brothers did as well. What is being reported is not really any different. " It is An arranged works do with awards/ secret Santa etc would not have been allowed on that date. Lots of workers worked hard all year round but they were not allowed them, so they would have been breaking rules at that time if it turns out to be true There was one this morning being reported that they had worked all day and got some drinks in and had a drink before going home, I think that would have been different if they stayed to socially distanced rules. | |||
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"The political class is an embarrassment. But no-one should think that making this a party political matter will force the political class to be less hypocritical. MPs and officials from across the Commons...and the Scottish and Welsh assembles... have broken their own rules" | |||
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"When are people going to wake up? Quite frankly these people have worked their nads off to try and protect us. Furthermore, they worked together throughout their long days. So they may have relaxed afterwards and maybe even had a small drink - jeez, no different to any other organisation. I worked in a multi-person environment at this time, my Brothers did as well. What is being reported is not really any different. " Rubbish. Heaven forbid they actually had to do some proper work for once - in between giving lucrative contracts to their mates and having affairs. Meanwhile healthcare workers, who worked infinitely harder during the same time, have felt the full force of the pandemic. They should be leading by example. To demand the country do one thing, whilst they do the opposite is insane and it's people like you that will cause this country to be walked over by these idiots for a long time to come. | |||
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"He's so fkn thick he probably didn't even know You can say many, many things about Boris but he definitely isn't thick" He is certainly not a great intellect and he does come across as a bit thick sometimes. I would say he is more lazy than thick. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? " It was COBRA Lager, we've got ot all wrong. Strange people assume what went on in the house next door is nothing to do with Boris. Boris represents the Conservative Party and the current UK Government, therefore he is culpable if others act illegally under his umbrella. The issue is NOT the parties, the main issue is that 'your glorious' leader is of a lying, scheming and deceitful character and that is the issue. He knows exactly what went on, I suspect some of them he and his wife was present in person. Sooner he's gone, the better.. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" Neighbour??? It was in his house He’s a compulsive liar Expects the people who work for him and alongside him to take the flak every time he is found out in everything he’s lied about | |||
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" No, this is a mainly conservative issue. While you might have a few scattered across the other parties across the country this is almost exclusively a conservative issue. This is not a ' all as bad as each other job'. " I am afraid that you are wrong! Captain Hindsight whinges about 2nd jobs and himself was found to have a second job, providing Legal Advice using Parliamentary premises and equipment and earning over 100K. Captain Hindsight whinges about parties, but is pictured at one himself enjoying a beer! Wake up and smell the coffee! | |||
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"There are new pics in the Mirror of Johnson hosting an Xmas quiz. Kind of blows his "I don't now nuffink about no rule breaking or parties or anyfing like that" excuse out of the water. + there are people with him in the pics, despite that being against the rules at the time too. 1 wearing tinsel, another wearing an Xmas hat." Boris never looks in a mirror, the paper or the bathroom one judging by his hair | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" I think you might have to edit your comments in the days / weeks ahead as even more photos and stories are leaked…. | |||
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"The political class is an embarrassment. But no-one should think that making this a party political matter will force the political class to be less hypocritical. MPs and officials from across the Commons...and the Scottish and Welsh assembles... have broken their own rules No, this is a mainly conservative issue. While you might have a few scattered across the other parties across the country this is almost exclusively a conservative issue. This is not a ' all as bad as each other job'. " You are quite right. You had Labour MPs and councilors attending funerals with hundreds of people that had nothing to do with each other, so a few people from the same office is nothing. Labour MP travelling round the country after being diagnosed with Covid, if I remember correctly KS was also seen socialising during lockdown.. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!! I think you might have to edit your comments in the days / weeks ahead as even more photos and stories are leaked…. " Think that day's arrived or shall we wait to see what else gets leaked.. I am sure there's plenty more to come.. Can you still he PM with a criminal record? Or will he change the ruling on this to suit like he tried with Paterson? | |||
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"There are new pics in the Mirror of Johnson hosting an Xmas quiz. Kind of blows his "I don't now nuffink about no rule breaking or parties or anyfing like that" excuse out of the water. + there are people with him in the pics, despite that being against the rules at the time too. 1 wearing tinsel, another wearing an Xmas hat." He may have been trying to deny a different party, or attended in such a way that his worda could possibly have been almost correct, in those limited circumstances. I think a UK Prime Minister is expected to have considerably higher standards than Trump mostly got away with. The threshold for reaching an intolerable point may be reached here. | |||
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"Don't care about them having parties or mixing, they can do what they like. But what people don't see is more important, they wasn't scared of catching covid or even dying from it. Makes you think what do they know that they're not telling us? " What came to mind, that they're not telling you? How many £millions of contracts they've pushed to their mates? Certainly, the evidence of Covid, its abilities to cause widespread disability, deaths, serious illness, not to mention harming the country etc, is all long since fully established. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!!" Actually I think you'll find that he did attend one. He sat in as quizmaster at one gathering. | |||
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" You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know You don't know any of it either, but you are blaming him and I am not! So who is correct? They are because it has been proven without a doubt that Boris attended at least one party/gathering call it what you will. Mhm And I'd be amazed if more doesn't come out." with what else is happening with omicron I think it will go quiet for a while and people will have less rawness to what we feel now. Same with earlier mistakes. The vaccine roll out took over the news. Boris said that it’s not the time for enquiries until it’s all over. Knowing full well that people won’t feel as bitter | |||
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"Boris said that it’s not the time for enquiries until it’s all over This means, don't ask questions until he is out of number 10 and got himself a cushy little hidey hole somewhere safe from nosey busybodies. I could be wrong." Give him a chance to bury it under other news. Funny how it's never the time for responsibility, hey? | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!! You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know No its more like saying students at a school had a party in a classroom and the head did not know. Number 10 is a huge place and has many staff, it is very possible that boris in his flat above number 11 new nothing about it." you believe that? A head doesn’t have a network of staff who will report everything to him and that is before mentioning the domestic staff in Downing Street | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!! You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know No its more like saying students at a school had a party in a classroom and the head did not know. Number 10 is a huge place and has many staff, it is very possible that boris in his flat above number 11 new nothing about it." After all that has come out this week, if you believe that I think you may be being naive | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!! You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know No its more like saying students at a school had a party in a classroom and the head did not know. Number 10 is a huge place and has many staff, it is very possible that boris in his flat above number 11 new nothing about it. you believe that? A head doesn’t have a network of staff who will report everything to him and that is before mentioning the domestic staff in Downing Street " Even if Boris was unaware, the t appears soem of his "deputy heads" were, perhaps were even at the parties. Given this happened just after the end of the day, yiud imagine some were still "at school" and would have heard it, even if they were unaware beforehand. And presumably these "students" were told clearly they couldn't have a party. The fact they ignored the edict isn't a great sign of how well Boris can lead. And in finding out their may have been an illegal party, for a head to say no party happened and if it did it rulesnwere for followed etc is just pretty shit. It's taken a fuck load of evidence for him to even investigate. Again, poor leadership. Especially when they are his laws. Im amazed the free pass he is stil getting from some. | |||
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"did he think that last year's party at number 10 would stay hidden and not get exposed? Having 12 crates of Indian lager, delivered in dimploamtic attaches don't count as an urgent COBRA meeting does it? You do realise that even if there was a party, it was nothing do with Boris - right? He did not arrange one, he did not attend one. To blame Boris is like me blaming you for your neighbour having a party!!! You don't know any of that, but it is like saying all the staff in Asda had a party in the store and the management didn't know No its more like saying students at a school had a party in a classroom and the head did not know. Number 10 is a huge place and has many staff, it is very possible that boris in his flat above number 11 new nothing about it." During 1 of the parties - it now seems there were many - there's a pic of him doing a zoom quiz to groups of people in no 10. And you really still think he knew nothing about any of this? Wow. | |||
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"Do people really believe that the evidence of that Xmas party has only just come to light?? They've been holding on to it so it can be exposed at just the right time! " It is an illusion of disfunction and corruption, the conditioned will and always react to triggers and characters. | |||
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"Who won the quiz that Boris hosted " the Downing Street cat | |||
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"Despite what Dtarmer said I do not believe for one moment Labour held no parties last year The whole lot need binning " well until there’s some sort of accusation or reports, I just see that as a poor effort at deflection | |||
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