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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

Also this isn’t a loaded question , I’m genuinely interested

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer "

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months? "

they said that its likely to become yearly boosters.. currently the booster was needed at 6 months but they are looking at adjusting the vaccines I believe. But even at 2 a year.. that would not be 15 to 20 over 5 years

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months? "

But the Booster threshold is dropping to 3 months.

That said, I expect it to be a couple a year for a year or two, then settle down into an annual flu-esque jab.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I accept a yearly flu vaccination. I will probably take a covid booster at regular intervals too if only to enable me to move about freely

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months? they said that its likely to become yearly boosters.. currently the booster was needed at 6 months but they are looking at adjusting the vaccines I believe. But even at 2 a year.. that would not be 15 to 20 over 5 years"

Fair enough we have different information … with there being 2 new variants per year and vaccine protection only lasting 6 months before it starts wane … it will be interesting to see which of the “sciences” predictions will be correct

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? . Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months?

But the Booster threshold is dropping to 3 months.

That said, I expect it to be a couple a year for a year or two, then settle down into an annual flu-esque jab."

I don’t want to turn this Into a thread about any other than how many are people willing to take

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? . Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

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How many would you take ?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months?

But the Booster threshold is dropping to 3 months.

That said, I expect it to be a couple a year for a year or two, then settle down into an annual flu-esque jab."

it's not dropped to three months, they have just brought it forward for those that havent had it as they have found that the booster increased the benefits by a considerable amount. So with the new variant and winter looming and people mixing more they decided to lower it.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months?

But the Booster threshold is dropping to 3 months.

That said, I expect it to be a couple a year for a year or two, then settle down into an annual flu-esque jab. it's not dropped to three months, they have just brought it forward for those that havent had it as they have found that the booster increased the benefits by a considerable amount. So with the new variant and winter looming and people mixing more they decided to lower it. "

Thanks for your reply you will take as many as they offer … I don’t want to get bogged down in time frames just how many people will take

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

How many would you take ?"

If they are quarterly I really don't see a problem. I have a flu vax every year + 2 Jabs and a Booster. So far.

The Vax has been in people arms for almost two years - millions and millions and millions of them - and no major mass concerns are being reported.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

Actually more than 7 Billion have been given.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

How many would you take ?

If they are quarterly I really don't see a problem. I have a flu vax every year + 2 Jabs and a Booster. So far.

The Vax has been in people arms for almost two years - millions and millions and millions of them - and no major mass concerns are being reported.

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Thanks for your reply … I’m genuinely interested and everyone has there own valid reasons for there answers …

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'll follow the evidence.

If the evidence calls for more, I'll have more.

I've had 20 flu vaccines to date, and will keep having them. To me this is the same and not a big deal.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"I'll follow the evidence.

If the evidence calls for more, I'll have more.

I've had 20 flu vaccines to date, and will keep having them. To me this is the same and not a big deal."

Thanks for reply keep them coming !

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"
Whatever is required i have a flu one every year whats the difference?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

It's also a great idea to have a pneumonia vaccine at least once in your life.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??Whatever is required i have a flu one every year whats the difference?"

The main difference I can see so far is that the definition of vaccine was changed shortly before the vaccine release … if the change in definition wasn’t made they would have to call it a gene therapy … which it is … also the flu vaccine is a traditional vaccine I.e under the previous definition.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's also a great idea to have a pneumonia vaccine at least once in your life."

I had pneumonia when I was a kid. My mum said she thought I was going to die.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"It's also a great idea to have a pneumonia vaccine at least once in your life.

I had pneumonia when I was a kid. My mum said she thought I was going to die."

It's a terrible illness - much like flu is. and can lead to weakened heart responses too.

I would tell everyone to have the pneumonia vaccine - they are expensive about £85 but worth every penny. And one should last your lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

How can it be yearly when we are on our 1st booster after 6 months?

But the Booster threshold is dropping to 3 months.

That said, I expect it to be a couple a year for a year or two, then settle down into an annual flu-esque jab. it's not dropped to three months, they have just brought it forward for those that havent had it as they have found that the booster increased the benefits by a considerable amount. So with the new variant and winter looming and people mixing more they decided to lower it. "

So it has dropped from six months after the 2nd jab to three months then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer "

Dead right. Any that are offered/advised. Without limit.

As you rightly say, they are not just to protect the recipient.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

When the science shows that the immunity to the virus is dropping I will get another booster if that is 6 monthly until they adjust the vaccine to give a longer duration of protection so be it, scientific knowledge of this virus is growing daily and the more they learn the more they will be able to adjust the vaccines to give a better stronger immune response.

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

If its free then gimme gimme gimme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

How many would you take ?

If they are quarterly I really don't see a problem. I have a flu vax every year + 2 Jabs and a Booster. So far.

The Vax has been in people arms for almost two years - millions and millions and millions of them - and no major mass concerns are being reported.

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Small point of order - the vaxes were approved in the UK a year ago. Most other countries were later approving.

They've not been in arms for 2 years (trials aside, but theyre closer to 18 months) but mostly in the UK 9-12 months and worldwide closer to 6-9 months.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

As many as the experts or my doctor advise me to take, after all it is their job

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

Dead right. Any that are offered/advised. Without limit.

As you rightly say, they are not just to protect the recipient."

You can still spread COVID if vaccinated by the way. Little to no protection is offered transmissible wise …

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

How many would you take ?

If they are quarterly I really don't see a problem. I have a flu vax every year + 2 Jabs and a Booster. So far.

The Vax has been in people arms for almost two years - millions and millions and millions of them - and no major mass concerns are being reported.

Small point of order - the vaxes were approved in the UK a year ago. Most other countries were later approving.

They've not been in arms for 2 years (trials aside, but theyre closer to 18 months) but mostly in the UK 9-12 months and worldwide closer to 6-9 months."

With trials it is as I said. But hey ho.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

as many that they want me to have

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


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You can still spread COVID if vaccinated by the way. Little to no protection is offered transmissible wise … "

See I see it slightly differently - as many more should too - if I am vaxxed, and I protect myself then there is a much less chance of me blocking a bed in a hospital to someone that really does need it. So I am protecting others transmissible or not.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I will take whatever is advised

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

I understand mostly older or at risk people taking as many as advised … good thread thanks for reply’s

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me. "

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time. "

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

As you don't know how well your immune system is working now or over time, I would suggest a booster is the better option.

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

im sure on the news they said this latest variant is more likely to evade natural immunity, what will you do then.

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport

Should have added if that’s correct.

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By *sLillyMrWolfeCouple
over a year ago

near you...


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

No-one but no-one knows for sure right now. It depends on a number of scientific factors like how fast the virus will mutate and how adequate the last boosters are in dealing with new variants of concern.

There are also human factors. Not everyone can have a booster. Not everyone wants a booster. Not everyone can take time off to have the booster and deal with side effects.

Lots of questions, fuxk all answers right now. All we can deal with is the here and now and hope for better news.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

How long does natural immunity last?

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Should have added if that’s correct."

Get over it easily again like last time

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By *igNick1381Man
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

The covid boosters will be easier for older and weaker people to accept as they're already on regular flu shots, so it'll make no difference to them

I'm on no regular medication of any kind at the moment and I see no reason to start

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

So is this thread actually an anti-booster thread?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

Have you spoken to your doctor about the benefits of boosters and your natural immunity?

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I will take what the scientists say is required. I don't know enough to second guess them and having only 1 when 2 are required is a bit like having half a parachute.

As a child and young man I travelled and had numerous vaccinations for things like measels, mumps, polio, tetanus, diptheria, whooping cough, typhoid, yellow fever, etc etc. I never caught any of them and rarely suffered more than a few hours of discomfort. For me vaccinations work and I take what is offered.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"So is this thread actually an anti-booster thread?"

Not at all … most people have answered being for as many as offered … and that absolutely fine everyone has there own needs for it and others don’t

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time "

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it."

I’m 97.999 percent sure il be fine seeing as Iv survived COVID already

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


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Get over it easily again like last time "

New variants may well take a different slant on that.

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it.

I’m 97.999 percent sure il be fine seeing as Iv survived COVID already "

You’ve nothing to worry about then have you, said no one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As many as I need to.

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By *urvytreatWoman
over a year ago

somewhere nice

Personally I don’t think we can guess what’s going to happen. Information from the relevant people is constantly changing and as clear as mud!

I personally think all we can do is take things day by day and make a decision on a vaccine as we receive the invitation/notification that there is one available

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

The Health Sec said there will be two boosters every 6 months. That's 4 a year.

I've had the two jabs. I'm seriously considering not having any more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer

Dead right. Any that are offered/advised. Without limit.

As you rightly say, they are not just to protect the recipient.

You can still spread COVID if vaccinated by the way. Little to no protection is offered transmissible wise … "

Not so. You can still catch it and still pass it on, but significant protection is afforded against both.

But even if the gain was marginal it would be worth it regardless.

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By *ilver Fox 60Man
over a year ago

Southport

As many as is recommended by health professionals.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it.

I’m 97.999 percent sure il be fine seeing as Iv survived COVID already

You’ve nothing to worry about then have you, said no one"

Well my mum did and she’s been a GP for 30 years !

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By *RnMrsFreakCouple
over a year ago

Hull,England

We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it

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By *AURA6969TV/TS
over a year ago

RUGBY


"I accept a yearly flu vaccination. I will probably take a covid booster at regular intervals too if only to enable me to move about freely "
same here I will follow guidelines and have any that are recommended.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I can’t help thinking there’s a lot of posturing going on to cover up a fear of needles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't get the flu jab, so it's a good question. But there's probably more risk for me with Covid so I will keep going while the variants are causing a reasonable amount of issues in my age group and / or if it helps mitigate spread (this may change with variants)

But I do accept that this may be ongoing. And that's okay. People pop pills to manage "stuff" on a daily basis. I don't see this being a while lot different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

I caught Covid in January, had two jabs and then caught it again in July. Both times confirmed via a PCR test. So I wouldn’t assume too much about immunity. I’ve just had my booster. I’ll keep taking the boosters as long as it’s required to live life to the fullest, eg for travel

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By *atandasmileMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … "

Almost everything I've read suggests precisely the opposite - that (covid) vaccine induced immunity is usually stronger than infection acquired immunity, particularly...


"therefore having survived COVID easily"

...if the original infection was mild.

By that logic, I would decide to take the booster in your situation. But then I'm fairly firmly in the camp of taking boosters as and when scientific consensus advises that the reward outweighs the risk, so I guess I would anyway.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

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By *ent doggerMan
over a year ago

kent


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

I'm almost unvaccinated now as it's almost 6 months since my second vaccine jab

I won't be getting any boosters

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By *ackie012TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I've not heard of anybody dying as a result of being vaccinated.I've heard of plenty dying through covid.

I fully trust the doctors and scientists and am happy to do as they adviise ,I do not trust antivaxers add I have not seen a shred of evidence to prove them right.lastly it is not just about them but also others. that could be infected by them

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire

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By *dores blackmenWoman
over a year ago

incognito mode ;-)

Let's just see how it goes as nobody knows the answers yet,I've had all 3 plus flu jabs last four years with no problems at all,so I'm perfectly fine to continue having them,

If I decided not to,I would have to look for another job,which I don't intend on doing as I love doing the job I do.So however many pricks I need is fine by me

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area


"Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth …

Almost everything I've read suggests precisely the opposite - that (covid) vaccine induced immunity is usually stronger than infection acquired immunity, particularly...

therefore having survived COVID easily

...if the original infection was mild.

By that logic, I would decide to take the booster in your situation. But then I'm fairly firmly in the camp of taking boosters as and when scientific consensus advises that the reward outweighs the risk, so I guess I would anyway."

Exactly what I was about to type. Natural immunity is not better than vaccine induced immunity. That's a myth.

Personally I will go with what the scientists and medical experts advise. I want to protect my health and those I come into contact with. If I needed to self administer a quarterly jab, I would

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

I'm almost unvaccinated now as it's almost 6 months since my second vaccine jab

I won't be getting any boosters "

No not almost unvaccinated at all you just have a lesser chance that your immune system will recognise the virus and mount a robust immune response meaning the virus may have a better chance to infect your body and make you really ill if you come into contact with it.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it"

Seen and not ununderstood clearly.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

I'll happily get annual or 6 monthly boosters.

My husband gets all sorts of jabs to work abroad, has done for many years even has an old battered vaccine card with loads of stamps in it.

Think he got more vaccine than blood.

Only had one reaction, sweats and shakes during the journey but ok after a few days.

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By *ynonvalleyboyMan
over a year ago

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth …

Almost everything I've read suggests precisely the opposite - that (covid) vaccine induced immunity is usually stronger than infection acquired immunity, particularly...

therefore having survived COVID easily

...if the original infection was mild.

By that logic, I would decide to take the booster in your situation. But then I'm fairly firmly in the camp of taking boosters as and when scientific consensus advises that the reward outweighs the risk, so I guess I would anyway.

Exactly what I was about to type. Natural immunity is not better than vaccine induced immunity. That's a myth.

Personally I will go with what the scientists and medical experts advise. I want to protect my health and those I come into contact with. If I needed to self administer a quarterly jab, I would "

It’s not a myth it’s scientific fact…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth … therefore having survived COVID easily I won’t be needing any boosters which is nice "

Meanwhile, as you get older, your immune system gets less effective. The Thymus gland, which produces the T lymphocytes, becomes less effective in a process called thymic involution. Then again, the protection conferred, either by infection or vaccination, wanes in many people, in some no protection is gained at all.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

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By *ind-bodyMan
over a year ago

London / Cambridge

How many variants of covid are you happy to catch?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"It’s not a myth it’s scientific fact… "

It’s only better against the precise strain you were infected with.

Or we’d only ever get cold/flu once.

These types of viruses mutate rapidly, that’s why we have a yearly flu vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ill not take a risk with any shots, I’d prefer a shot in the head for not doing as I’m told. As for boosters if there’s any going that you can strap on your back and go full rocket man, Im in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Covid 19 vaccine killed my father and left my mother permanently disabled… I don’t know if people will want to keep on getting jabbed if the true safety data reports of these vaccines has been suppressed hidden or manipulated during the initial trials phase !!

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Covid 19 nearly killed me and has left my sister unable to get out of bed and permanently affected.

So I'll be taking a jab alongside my flu jab for as long as necessary.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The UK health minister announced in Parliament the other day that the JVCI has approved booster shots intervals for everyone over the age of 18 from a booster every 6 months down to a booster every 3 months for anyone wishes to avail… so the last time I was at school 12 months divided by 3 months was 4 so that’s 4 booster vaccines a year! if Covid continues for another 4 years for example then that 16 boosters along with your ‘fully vaccinated double jabbed’ takes the total to 18 injections…

That doesn’t smell like bullshit to me !! lol

Stay strong !! xoxo

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By *ind-bodyMan
over a year ago

London / Cambridge

Gap between second dose and booster reduced from 6 to 3 months, no announcement made about future boosters or time intervals.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/all-adults-to-be-offered-covid-19-boosters-by-end-of-january

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By *ackie012TV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

If the vaccine was as bad as suggested on this forum ,this means all the scientists,doctors ,nurses and governments of the world must be lying to us.does that seen conceivable

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By *lirty-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Bexley

To all those virtue signallers patting themselves on the back for dutifully wearing their maskes and casigating others for choosing not to. Well please carry on. You keep telling everyone it's easy so it's no big deal is it. Oh I see. You only do the easy bit for society's good do you. I wonder how many of you will alter your lives and activities amd those of your partners and families in other more difficult ways for the common good and to save the NHS. It sounds like many of you will be very keen to have annual flu jabs not because you're at risk but because of the risk to others. Good for you. I'm sure you'll also all give up smoking and drinking and taking drugs too just so you don't take up any hospital beds at the worst possible time. I know you definitely won't ever get d*unk and forget to wash your hands or wear that mask in public eh. No, you'll be perfrect citizens and give up dangerous sports and other activities you engage in because you might get hurt and god forbid, take up a hospital bed needed by others. Yes of course you will lol.

Take a look at yourselves and witness the hypocrisy if you dare.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've no idea, but I have had the booster, I'll decide when I get the letter again depending on the information out at that time.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time. "

Exactly. That's why I don't understand those that have had the vaccine initial doses but then flat out refuse to get the booster. Their thinking makes no sense to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease."

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"I have a flu jab every year. I assume this is going to be the same.

I don't get the 'I'll have the vaccine but no way am I having a bloody booster' crowd. Makes no sense to me.

The 'sense' of the Booster is to top up the the waning antibodies over time.

Exactly. That's why I don't understand those that have had the vaccine initial doses but then flat out refuse to get the booster. Their thinking makes no sense to me. "

I can explain because I'm one of them.

I am aware that there is the risk of an adverse reaction to the jab.

I weighed up that risk against the possible good it may do. I thought the balance of risk supported me having the two jabs. I don't know if I was right but what's done is done.

But if I keep on taking more injections the balance of risk of adverse reaction constantly increases. I've now taken the degree of risk I'm comfortable with ...no more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The UK health minister announced in Parliament the other day that the JVCI has approved booster shots intervals for everyone over the age of 18 from a booster every 6 months down to a booster every 3 months for anyone wishes to avail… so the last time I was at school 12 months divided by 3 months was 4 so that’s 4 booster vaccines a year! if Covid continues for another 4 years for example then that 16 boosters along with your ‘fully vaccinated double jabbed’ takes the total to 18 injections…

That doesn’t smell like bullshit to me !! lol

Stay strong !! xoxo "

Yep. The Pfizer head said on the news he expects Britons to have a booster every 3 months lol.

He is laughing all the way to the bank

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ? "

Where has the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man said this? Can't fins any links . Only recent links I can find about him he is saying more people need to be vaccinated or restriction may have to be reintroduced.

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By *ind-bodyMan
over a year ago

London / Cambridge

Pfizer - annually:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59488848

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By *ind-bodyMan
over a year ago

London / Cambridge

Vaccine induced immunity not vaccine induced variants FFS!

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

Your maths is off, but if I am advised to take 6 monthly or annual boosters, that's what I do.

I anticipate it becoming much like the flu jab.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Your maths is off, but if I am advised to take 6 monthly or annual boosters, that's what I do.

I anticipate it becoming much like the flu jab."

Sajid Javid said a few days ago that people should have 'boosters' every three months

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ?

Where has the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man said this? Can't fins any links . Only recent links I can find about him he is saying more people need to be vaccinated or restriction may have to be reintroduced."

Not sure he really did ...

New variants come about from natural mutations of the COVID-19 virus. These mutations can affect how transmissible the virus is; how likely someone is to become seriously ill; and – crucially – how effective the current COVID-19 vaccines are in offering protection....

There is still much we do not know about the omicron variant, the most crucial is that question about how effective the vaccine will be in offering us protection. The greatest concern is that the virus has mutated to such an extent that our immune systems, trained by the vaccine, no longer recognise the virus and no longer trigger an immune response. This sort of variant is know as a ‘vaccine escape’ variant.

https://covid19.gov.im/news-releases-statements/chief-minister-s-covid-19-briefing-28-november-2021/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??Whatever is required i have a flu one every year whats the difference?

The main difference I can see so far is that the definition of vaccine was changed shortly before the vaccine release … if the change in definition wasn’t made they would have to call it a gene therapy … which it is … also the flu vaccine is a traditional vaccine I.e under the previous definition. "

This is not gene therapy. Gene therapy denotes something that will make an actual change in your gene structure. This doesn't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Natural immunity gives longer and better protection than any vaccine on earth …

Almost everything I've read suggests precisely the opposite - that (covid) vaccine induced immunity is usually stronger than infection acquired immunity, particularly...

therefore having survived COVID easily

...if the original infection was mild.

By that logic, I would decide to take the booster in your situation. But then I'm fairly firmly in the camp of taking boosters as and when scientific consensus advises that the reward outweighs the risk, so I guess I would anyway.

Exactly what I was about to type. Natural immunity is not better than vaccine induced immunity. That's a myth.

Personally I will go with what the scientists and medical experts advise. I want to protect my health and those I come into contact with. If I needed to self administer a quarterly jab, I would

It’s not a myth it’s scientific fact… "

Then how come scientists say natural immunity plus jsbs is the best protection.

Also not everyone can benefit from natural immunity

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it"

you do realise that just because its reported doesnt actually make it because of. The idea is things are reported then if there is a pattern, they look into it.

Look at the results for some common medicines we all take often. Even with the blood clot issue. Your more at risk from the pill

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

I have natural immunity, if it wasn’t for my partner to feel rough I wouldn’t be having a clue that I was positive. I also did about 10 lateral tests at the time and never showed positive, just the PCR. So I have no plans to play around with my immune system. If my health will deteriorate so badly at some point in the future then I might consider vaccination, boosters etc…never say never.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

All of them. Just as I've gotten every vaccine offered since I was a child.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I don't know, I'm not comfortable with this whole "boosters for life" thing, I suppose I won't get a choice though as I'm sure it will come into law that not being up to date with them will affect one's ability to go on holiday.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

I won’t be having a booster any time soon, Mr is likely to have them when offered to him, but to what extent I’m unsure Miss pc

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'll follow the evidence. Everyone was ignorant at the start and we are gaining great volunteers of high quality data as we progress.

It will also be in the context of the situation here as well as the medical developments ahead.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ? "

You're conflating a number of peculiar things there . And positing a claim that's not supported by any evidence whatsoever.

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By *ind-bodyMan
over a year ago

London / Cambridge

Sometimes it’s “widely reported”, sometimes it’s “fake news by the lamestream media”. I guess alternative facts requires choice - albeit comprehension would help too!

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By *urplequeenWoman
over a year ago

Fife


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

Zero. I did the double vaccination. I still have proven antibodies. Ive had side effects after it that affect my life. Im taking no more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ?

You're conflating a number of peculiar things there . And positing a claim that's not supported by any evidence whatsoever. "

Keep on taking the poison… trot along now !!

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By *weetandHungMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??"

Plain and simple 0

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it.

I’m 97.999 percent sure il be fine seeing as Iv survived COVID already

You’ve nothing to worry about then have you, said no one"

And in the real world how does worry help anyone or anything. Simple answer it doesn’t. Taking what one see’s as sensible life choices and doing what’s right for the one making that choice is what matters. When people get caught up in the belief of what’s best for another is where we fall short.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it you do realise that just because its reported doesnt actually make it because of. The idea is things are reported then if there is a pattern, they look into it.

Look at the results for some common medicines we all take often. Even with the blood clot issue. Your more at risk from the pill"

Someday you might wake up when someone close to you or even yourself takes an adverse reaction to a subsequent booster shot ! people are only trying to warn others of their experience, if you where in a building that was burning I’m sure you would shout fire fire fire !! to warn others of the danger !

Stay strong !

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Worried about a vaccine? Possible side effects?

Try reading the information on taking antibiotics

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

That’s why I don’t take antibiotics for prevention, just in case etc.

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By *0Something!Man
over a year ago

Banbury

Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

None

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"That’s why I don’t take antibiotics for prevention, just in case etc. "
sorry I maybe missing something here... but do you mean your taking antibiotics when not poorly to prevent a viral infection???

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it you do realise that just because its reported doesnt actually make it because of. The idea is things are reported then if there is a pattern, they look into it.

Look at the results for some common medicines we all take often. Even with the blood clot issue. Your more at risk from the pill

Someday you might wake up when someone close to you or even yourself takes an adverse reaction to a subsequent booster shot ! people are only trying to warn others of their experience, if you where in a building that was burning I’m sure you would shout fire fire fire !! to warn others of the danger !

Stay strong ! "

please dont be patronising. I dont need waking up, I actually really researched this as I had to decide for my disabled daughter if she were going to have it or not. Very glad I did decide to let her have it then. I know zero people who have had anything more than a mild reaction to the vaccine ( and i know a lot of people) yet have lost 23 people I know to covid. ( yes okay I also am close to an aging group and those with immune issues but they have all had their vaccines

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By *aveyb777Man
over a year ago

caistor

I'll be taking none what do ever. I got single jabbed, was literally dying for a week, not having another needle in my arm, even if it becomes mandatory they can jail me.

I caught Covid and had a headache and no taste. The jab was hell of a lot worse than covid. One day you will be stood next to someone and they will have covid, it will just become daily life just like flu.. I've learnt to live with it and so should the rest. Boycott those 'cons' fucking idiots

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"I'll be taking none what do ever. I got single jabbed, was literally dying for a week, not having another needle in my arm, even if it becomes mandatory they can jail me.

I caught Covid and had a headache and no taste. The jab was hell of a lot worse than covid. One day you will be stood next to someone and they will have covid, it will just become daily life just like flu.. I've learnt to live with it and so should the rest. Boycott those 'cons' fucking idiots"

Yea ok

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

None because I have had both jabs required for my immune system to learn enough to develop antibodies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll be taking none what do ever. I got single jabbed, was literally dying for a week, not having another needle in my arm, even if it becomes mandatory they can jail me.

I caught Covid and had a headache and no taste. The jab was hell of a lot worse than covid. One day you will be stood next to someone and they will have covid, it will just become daily life just like flu.. I've learnt to live with it and so should the rest. Boycott those 'cons' fucking idiots"

did you get covid before or after?

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By *-4pleasureCouple
over a year ago

Belfast


"I'll be taking none what do ever. I got single jabbed, was literally dying for a week, not having another needle in my arm, even if it becomes mandatory they can jail me.

I caught Covid and had a headache and no taste. The jab was hell of a lot worse than covid. One day you will be stood next to someone and they will have covid, it will just become daily life just like flu.. I've learnt to live with it and so should the rest. Boycott those 'cons' fucking idiots"

You say you practice safe sex. Why bother? One day your condom will break and your partner will have an STD. Guess you’ll just have “to learn to live with it”

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"With there being up to 15 to 20 boosters being administered over the next 5 years.(widely reported) this is a fact. Even for young healthy adults and children … how many are you willing to take before you give up and become “unvaccinated” ??

Widely reported=fact ?

I'll choose to treat that as bullshit until it actually is a PROVEN fact

I'm answer, I'll trust medical advice and probably take any vaccine offered that limits my personal risk of dying from any disease.

So the scientists that advised the Chief Minister of the Isle of Man are talking rubbish then when he addressed his people to say that recent mutations are a vaccine induced variant caused by vaccine escape Covid… and we thought that swingers where supposed to be open minded free thinking people ?

You're conflating a number of peculiar things there . And positing a claim that's not supported by any evidence whatsoever.

Keep on taking the poison… trot along now !! "

So, still unable to provide anything that substantiates what I critiqued, apart from what is presumably a slur.

The great thing about this pandemic is that we've had the most researched scientific matter in human history. If the scientific method is beyond you, it's perhaps better to try to learn, with an open mind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had both jabs (AZ) and then the Pfizer booster two weeks ago. Worse side effect was a sore arm as if punched for about 2 days from the Pfizer.

Bizarrely since the booster the Catarrh problems i had seem to have gone.

Everyone i know who has been double jabbed and boosted has had little more than a sore arm and a headache at most.

Only bloke at work who has had no jab because he is young (28) fit and healthy has gone down with Covid and by all accounts is not very well at all. His close friend and workmate (double jabbed, to young for booster) was with him all over a weekend and has not caught it and has been testing every day even though no symptoms.

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Here and there

Simple answer to simple question will take as many as deemed to be required to protect me and others.

Not really different to analogy of saying after surgery you are told you need medication few times a year would you part way think oh today I feel ok so do not take meds then day after you feel lot worse.

I trust science crew anytime compared to what Boris (peppa pig) Johnson says.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies."

Sounds like you're unaware of the medicines research/development and approvaps processes and will never be having any further medicine as long as you manage to live for. Good luck with that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"None because I have had both jabs required for my immune system to learn enough to develop antibodies "

Unfortunately the immune system after a while forgets (like it does with the flu jab) hence the need for a booster.

Even naturally generated antibodies from a Covid infection will not reoccur once the immune system forgets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies."

Good luck.

The hospital has 11 covid=infected people in ICU. *All* unvaccinated.

In England NHS,while only 36% of people in hospital with covid are unvaccinated, the % of those seriously ill with covid is higher....much.

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies."

What is it with the irrational argument over long term studies! Do people not understand that no medicines would exist today, from antibiotics to a whole heap of different vaccines, if you waited for long term studies! And the average life expectancy would still be mid 40s with killer diseases like TB, smallpox, yellow fever etc rife. Aren't 8bn doses delivered worldwide and minimal adverse reactions and deaths enough evidence that the vaccines work. You're 36 time more likely to die from Covid if you're unvaccinated. Deciding not to vaccinate is like betting on a one legged horse against a field of Formula One cars. Good luck!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies.

What is it with the irrational argument over long term studies! Do people not understand that no medicines would exist today, from antibiotics to a whole heap of different vaccines, if you waited for long term studies! And the average life expectancy would still be mid 40s with killer diseases like TB, smallpox, yellow fever etc rife. Aren't 8bn doses delivered worldwide and minimal adverse reactions and deaths enough evidence that the vaccines work. You're 36 time more likely to die from Covid if you're unvaccinated. Deciding not to vaccinate is like betting on a one legged horse against a field of Formula One cars. Good luck!"

Evidence?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies."

If you had an illness that was terminal, so you had between 1 -5 years max left, then along came a new wonder drug that was untested but was claimed to be a cure would you wait until the last minute hoping for long term study, take it straight away or think fuck it lets party to the max?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"None because I have had both jabs required for my immune system to learn enough to develop antibodies

Unfortunately the immune system after a while forgets (like it does with the flu jab) hence the need for a booster.

Even naturally generated antibodies from a Covid infection will not reoccur once the immune system forgets."

Is there evidence to show that the body's natural immune system forgets aren't each and every person built and designed differently.is their evidence to show that the body is able to produce antibodies for viruses that has not been around. Each year their is flu some catch it some don't but are some whom only catch it but are able to fight against it in a shorter period as well not everyone relies on medication because the natural diet provides...

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

None! I've had the 2 jabs said no ty to the booster x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"None because I have had both jabs required for my immune system to learn enough to develop antibodies

Unfortunately the immune system after a while forgets (like it does with the flu jab) hence the need for a booster.

Even naturally generated antibodies from a Covid infection will not reoccur once the immune system forgets.

Is there evidence to show that the body's natural immune system forgets aren't each and every person built and designed differently.is their evidence to show that the body is able to produce antibodies for viruses that has not been around. Each year their is flu some catch it some don't but are some whom only catch it but are able to fight against it in a shorter period as well not everyone relies on medication because the natural diet provides..."

perhaps ‘forget” is the wrong term.

Something like measles hardly changes so a vaccine is needed just once whereas respiratory illnesses mutate and can do so rapidly and frequently hence the need for boosters / yearly shots.

If no infection is around the antibodies will gradually diminish and mutation may not trigger new production hence the concern over omicron.

A booster / yearly jab stimulates the immune system to produce the antibodies then hopefully there is less chance of infection and / or serious disease.

There’s a good article on Livescience.com titled why do we develop lifelong immunity to some diseases but not others.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"None! I've had the 2 jabs said no ty to the booster x"

It is certainly your choice and I have heard few people say the same thing, but it feels to me like walking two thirds of the way there and then walking all the way back.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies.

If you had an illness that was terminal, so you had between 1 -5 years max left, then along came a new wonder drug that was untested but was claimed to be a cure would you wait until the last minute hoping for long term study, take it straight away or think fuck it lets party to the max?"

They always say they will but in reality if it does happen they are the first in the queue with their are out

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"To all those virtue signallers patting themselves on the back for dutifully wearing their maskes and casigating others for choosing not to. Well please carry on. You keep telling everyone it's easy so it's no big deal is it. Oh I see. You only do the easy bit for society's good do you. I wonder how many of you will alter your lives and activities amd those of your partners and families in other more difficult ways for the common good and to save the NHS. It sounds like many of you will be very keen to have annual flu jabs not because you're at risk but because of the risk to others. Good for you. I'm sure you'll also all give up smoking and drinking and taking drugs too just so you don't take up any hospital beds at the worst possible time. I know you definitely won't ever get d*unk and forget to wash your hands or wear that mask in public eh. No, you'll be perfrect citizens and give up dangerous sports and other activities you engage in because you might get hurt and god forbid, take up a hospital bed needed by others. Yes of course you will lol.

Take a look at yourselves and witness the hypocrisy if you dare.

"

Had a good look in the mirror and I'm quite happy what I see.

I wear a mask all day as a front line medic and do so when in shops, supermarkets or entering a pub.

You are 100% correct,

I don't find it a chore nor do I find washing my hands an inconvenience.

I also don't believe I'm a hypocrite or a kill joy.

I think at this stage you do what you think is best.

If you want to wear a mask, wash your hands regularly and try, as much as possible, to make a bit of space, that's fine.

If you don't that's fine too.

Do I judge you. Not at all, you don't enter my radar.

Will I also lock myself away. Absolutely not, I still go to the pub but not the ones that are rammed out.

Each to his or her own.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"None! I've had the 2 jabs said no ty to the booster x

It is certainly your choice and I have heard few people say the same thing, but it feels to me like walking two thirds of the way there and then walking all the way back. "

Maybe but I've have reasons x

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma


"None! I've had the 2 jabs said no ty to the booster x

It is certainly your choice and I have heard few people say the same thing, but it feels to me like walking two thirds of the way there and then walking all the way back.

Maybe but I've have reasons x"

I guess you do and I'm not challenging those reasons

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"None! I've had the 2 jabs said no ty to the booster x

It is certainly your choice and I have heard few people say the same thing, but it feels to me like walking two thirds of the way there and then walking all the way back.

Maybe but I've have reasons x

I guess you do and I'm not challenging those reasons "

x

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

As many as it takes, if it protects the people it needs to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever. "

Young fit and healthy people will definitely skip it … parents won’t force there children to take it they will also skip it … meaning with every new booster more unvaxxed people will exist … meaning when the vaccine passport is rolled out like in Ireland Scotland and Wales … you will most likely see the breakdown of society with mass rebellion on the streets …that’s pretty much the premise of my question and with the replies Iv seen … I’m pretty sure that’s the road we are heading. Why would some one young fit and healthy continually vaccinate against a virus for the next 10 years they are 97% safe from ?

Watch this space !

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By *ixi n DogCouple
over a year ago

Pembrokeshire


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever. "

Why does everyone think you're an anti vaxer just because you have a problem/choose to give this ONE vaccine a swerve for any reason?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll take two a day to piss the anti-vaxxer Facebook learners, who spread false unfounded information off.

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"That’s why I don’t take antibiotics for prevention, just in case etc. sorry I maybe missing something here... but do you mean your taking antibiotics when not poorly to prevent a viral infection??? "

Sorry for misunderstanding, English is my second language, what I mean is that you can not compare the vaccine with the antibiotics. In order to be prescribed antibiotics you need to be really sick, no one should take takes antibiotics because they might become sick at some point. So the couple of times when I took antibiotics in my life it was for a serious reason. The vaccine on the other hand is pumped into everyone regardless their age , health, sex, immune system etc….let’s not forget that the huge majority of population is actually immune or with a high degree of immunity to this virus.

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By *igNick1381Man
over a year ago

BRIDGEND


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

Why does everyone think you're an anti vaxer just because you have a problem/choose to give this ONE vaccine a swerve for any reason? "

Just makes them feel superior

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Somebody asked me this the other day then said I won't have more than 2 a year because it has to be bad for your health overall, huh? Then he went outside and smoked two cigarettes !!

How many would you take ?

If they are quarterly I really don't see a problem. I have a flu vax every year + 2 Jabs and a Booster. So far.

The Vax has been in people arms for almost two years - millions and millions and millions of them - and no major mass concerns are being reported.

The Vacine not been in people for 1 year until 8th December

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

Why does everyone think you're an anti vaxer just because you have a problem/choose to give this ONE vaccine a swerve for any reason?

Just makes them feel superior

"

Not really. Why would one benchmark their superiority against an irrelevance?

What term would be preferable? Anti Covid Vaccination Hobbyist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

Young fit and healthy people will definitely skip it … parents won’t force there children to take it they will also skip it … meaning with every new booster more unvaxxed people will exist … meaning when the vaccine passport is rolled out like in Ireland Scotland and Wales … you will most likely see the breakdown of society with mass rebellion on the streets …that’s pretty much the premise of my question and with the replies Iv seen … I’m pretty sure that’s the road we are heading. Why would some one young fit and healthy continually vaccinate against a virus for the next 10 years they are 97% safe from ?

Watch this space ! "

You’re posed a different question with your response. Your original question (as written - but maybe different in your head) was how many one would tolerate - not how many one might expect others or wider society to tolerate.

Both valid but slightly different questions.

I think you might be right with regards to some quarters and that will inevitably lower the overall rate.

For what its worth I think many will have a bit more to worry about in next decade than covid jabs. Inflation will probably keep more awake than how many jabs they have. But that’s another story.

We’ll all do the best we can for our families and make different choices accordingly. What happens to those who make different choices. That’s their responsibility.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge


"Should have added if that’s correct.

Get over it easily again like last time

There’s been lots of hard men in ITU with Covid with a similar outlook and end up regretting it."

Many, many people have had flu over their lifetime and got over it.

Then one day, they'll catch it and for numerous reasons, end up dying from it.

I see this scenario play out, catch it year, year out until one day - it wins and finishes you off.

At what point to you think it is the right time to take it again?

I'll take it as often as suggested, 12months, 9months, 6months or even 3months.

Whatever it is suggested I'll take it and not moan about it one bit..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

Young fit and healthy people will definitely skip it … parents won’t force there children to take it they will also skip it … meaning with every new booster more unvaxxed people will exist … meaning when the vaccine passport is rolled out like in Ireland Scotland and Wales … you will most likely see the breakdown of society with mass rebellion on the streets …that’s pretty much the premise of my question and with the replies Iv seen … I’m pretty sure that’s the road we are heading. Why would some one young fit and healthy continually vaccinate against a virus for the next 10 years they are 97% safe from ?

Watch this space ! "

*shrug*

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By *otswoldguy911 OP   Man
over a year ago

gloucestershire


"What is the premise of this question?

That there is a number or frequency of booster that will be inconvenient and then we’ll skip it?

That there is some notional threshold that will introduce some as yet unknown or unproven risk factor?

That there is a threshold of ‘can’t be arsed’?

- sensible answer and would expect from all but the anti VAX brigade would be as many as it takes to keep us safe. Be that monthly, quarterly, annually or whatever.

Young fit and healthy people will definitely skip it … parents won’t force there children to take it they will also skip it … meaning with every new booster more unvaxxed people will exist … meaning when the vaccine passport is rolled out like in Ireland Scotland and Wales … you will most likely see the breakdown of society with mass rebellion on the streets …that’s pretty much the premise of my question and with the replies Iv seen … I’m pretty sure that’s the road we are heading. Why would some one young fit and healthy continually vaccinate against a virus for the next 10 years they are 97% safe from ?

Watch this space !

You’re posed a different question with your response. Your original question (as written - but maybe different in your head) was how many one would tolerate - not how many one might expect others or wider society to tolerate.

Both valid but slightly different questions.

I think you might be right with regards to some quarters and that will inevitably lower the overall rate.

For what its worth I think many will have a bit more to worry about in next decade than covid jabs. Inflation will probably keep more awake than how many jabs they have. But that’s another story.

We’ll all do the best we can for our families and make different choices accordingly. What happens to those who make different choices. That’s their responsibility. "

One thing I can solve is inflation … Iv been stacking Bitcoin for 5-6 years and I suggest everyone does the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We've seen the VAERS and the UKs yellow card reports so the answer is none.

MSM will never report negatives about it you do realise that just because its reported doesnt actually make it because of. The idea is things are reported then if there is a pattern, they look into it.

Look at the results for some common medicines we all take often. Even with the blood clot issue. Your more at risk from the pill

Someday you might wake up when someone close to you or even yourself takes an adverse reaction to a subsequent booster shot ! people are only trying to warn others of their experience, if you where in a building that was burning I’m sure you would shout fire fire fire !! to warn others of the danger !

Stay strong ! please dont be patronising. I dont need waking up, I actually really researched this as I had to decide for my disabled daughter if she were going to have it or not. Very glad I did decide to let her have it then. I know zero people who have had anything more than a mild reaction to the vaccine ( and i know a lot of people) yet have lost 23 people I know to covid. ( yes okay I also am close to an aging group and those with immune issues but they have all had their vaccines "

Call it what you want but I’m not trying to be patronising!… my father took a reaction to his second AZ jab & died suddenly 3 days later, my mother took multiple blood clots on her lungs after her 1st AZ jab…. The contrast must include free choice to choose to vaccinated or not ? Mandates are not free choices based on risk no matter how small or large that risk may be!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Zero. Not pumping my body with clot shots with zero long term studies.

What is it with the irrational argument over long term studies! Do people not understand that no medicines would exist today, from antibiotics to a whole heap of different vaccines, if you waited for long term studies! And the average life expectancy would still be mid 40s with killer diseases like TB, smallpox, yellow fever etc rife. Aren't 8bn doses delivered worldwide and minimal adverse reactions and deaths enough evidence that the vaccines work. You're 36 time more likely to die from Covid if you're unvaccinated. Deciding not to vaccinate is like betting on a one legged horse against a field of Formula One cars. Good luck!"

There is no long term real world data… what if the jabs save millions of lives in the short term from Covid but cost billions of lives in the medium to long term from currently unknown side effects, from pharmaceutical companies that have total immunity from prosecution of vaccine injuries guaranteed by the Government’s of the countries that the vaccines are approved for emergency use authorisation only !!

Everyone has the right to their own choice & genuine concerns ! if these vaccines where so safe why then would there be any hesitant people at all ???????

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


" if these vaccines where so safe why then would there be any hesitant people at all ??????? "

7 Billion people haven't been hesitant.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

You’ve been jabbed, still wear masks and nearly two years on you’re still complying.

Look at the unjabbed who refuse to wear masks.

They’re all still alive & kicking and don’t have trial phase mrna gene therapy injected into them.

You’re all being played!

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"You’ve been jabbed, still wear masks and nearly two years on you’re still complying.

Look at the unjabbed who refuse to wear masks.

They’re all still alive & kicking and don’t have trial phase mrna gene therapy injected into them.

You’re all being played! "

. They are not all still alive!

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"

You’re all being played! "

By what and who exactly - I love these replies - nobody EVER says by what and who we are all being played for!!!

Just once, anyone have a clear answer to this that isn't riddled with secret obscure plans and if only we could all get woke by the true facts!!!

What are the true facts - please say them. Just once!

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By *esthetic21Man
over a year ago

Birmingham/Bristol


"Actually more than 7 Billion have been given."
lol don't know where that info has come from because there's just over 7 billion people in the whole word so that is very wrong

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"You’ve been jabbed, still wear masks and nearly two years on you’re still complying.

Look at the unjabbed who refuse to wear masks.

They’re all still alive & kicking and don’t have trial phase mrna gene therapy injected into them.

You’re all being played! "

So you say.

I'm quite fine, thank you.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"Actually more than 7 Billion have been given.lol don't know where that info has come from because there's just over 7 billion people in the whole word so that is very wrong"

Yea you are right, my figure is wrong - the actual figure is:

Doses given Fully vaccinated 7.81 Billion doses given.

Source: Our World in Data. Go search . . .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Actually more than 7 Billion have been given.lol don't know where that info has come from because there's just over 7 billion people in the whole word so that is very wrong

Yea you are right, my figure is wrong - the actual figure is:

Doses given Fully vaccinated 7.81 Billion doses given.

Source: Our World in Data. Go search . . .

"

presumably most need two doses so it's something like 3bn fully vaccinated and then a few on their way ?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

Have a look here too:

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

World map of Vaccine Data from Bloomberg. They have it at 8.09 billion

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"Actually more than 7 Billion have been given.lol don't know where that info has come from because there's just over 7 billion people in the whole word so that is very wrong

Yea you are right, my figure is wrong - the actual figure is:

Doses given Fully vaccinated 7.81 Billion doses given.

Source: Our World in Data. Go search . . .

presumably most need two doses so it's something like 3bn fully vaccinated and then a few on their way ?"

No need to guess when the data is there for you to see

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By *orkshireDrifterMan
over a year ago

Nafferton, nr Driffield.


"How can it be that many... when they said it is likely to be yearly....

In answer.. I will take any that are necessary to help keep my residents and disabled daughter safer "

A very sensible attitude.

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By *ighlander80884Man
over a year ago

Inverness


"...from pharmaceutical companies that have total immunity from prosecution."

Another often quoted fake fact.

A company can still be sued if they show 'willful misconduct' in the production of their vaccine.

Take an example.

You need to carry some bags up a hill. You have to do it quickly, so you ask someone to help you carry them up, but if they slip, drop your bags, trip you nip or spill the contents you will sue them.

So they think, ok, in that case I'm not going to help you just in case something happens.

You then say, OK, if there's an accident on the way up I won't sue you. Then they help.

That doesn't mean half way up the hill they then decide to throw the bags back down the hill and push you over and you can't sue them, as that is a deliberate and willful act and not an accident.

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By *aliceWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

As many as the medical advice suggests I should, exactly the same approach I take for other health matters.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke

Correction:

My copy and paste across the data from Our World in Data misaligned the column headers.

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ie:

Doses given Fully vaccinated 7.81 Billion doses given.

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So read it as a total of 7.81 billion doses given. Which is what my original post said.

Now go the bloomberg link, and they have it as 8.09 billion doses given.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Two jabs is probably sufficient for me.

From here on I'd rather go ahead with Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine/zinc. I believe there are a number of other such pharmaceuticals and I'd like to see greater awareness of them

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"As many as the medical advice suggests I should, exactly the same approach I take for other health matters."

Yes. I've taken approximately fifteen thousand thyroid pills in my life (for my diagnosed thyroid disorder, this is the only recognised treatment) and I hope to live long enough to take at least another 40 000 or so.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION. Stoke


"Two jabs is probably sufficient for me.

From here on I'd rather go ahead with Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine/zinc. I believe there are a number of other such pharmaceuticals and I'd like to see greater awareness of them"

yes there should be, however not in the way that you are supposing . . .

'Hydroxychloroquine does not reduce deaths from COVID-19, and probably does not reduce the number of people needing mechanical ventilation.

Hydroxychloroquine caused more unwanted effects than a placebo treatment, though it did not appear to increase the number of serious unwanted effects.

The authors do not think new studies of hydroxychloroquine should be started for treatment of COVID-19.'

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