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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

My Nan spent most of December last year on her own. Only seeing myself the day before Christmas Eve as she was too worried about catching the illness. She has pulmonary fibrosis, so is extra careful. Was the first Christmas she spent on her own.

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

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By *aspsMan
over a year ago

dundee

One rule for some people in this country another for the working class if it become a fact Boris and who ever else attend this party they should all be sack on the spot

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Here and there

Basically he lies whenever he moves his lips I hope whoever told the press is able to provide further proof.

Time and time again he is caught lying. Blood is on his hands over deaths re covid example knowingly agreeing to send covid infected people into care homes and over 20000 deaths later.

Its only because he got found out that they pretended to care about those in care homes.

Yet folk say oh its only boris being boris a dangerous pathalogical liar.

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By *ola81Woman
over a year ago

pond

I was fallowing Boris and had my own party. If he can do it so do I.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Anybody actually surprised? Matt Hancock and Prof Ferguson also both preached isolation and lockdown yet both got caught with their pants down.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Then there was that Scottish MP who broke their own rules to travel all the way to Westminster (via public transport) to vote desire testing positive for covid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I was fallowing Boris and had my own party. If he can do it so do I. "

Doesn't make it right for others to do it though. You have to make that judgement for yourself and only go ahead if you think it's safe enough to do so.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

And then there were the Kinnocks. They're all having a laugh at us

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I wonder how many of those who voted for this clown will actually accept that he's betrayed them, and decide never to vote for him or his party again....not very many I suspect.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

He's morally bankrupt and cares not for anything but himself.

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By *ilver Fox 60Man
over a year ago

Southport

And the Brits elected him with a massive majority. Sad country.

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

I just hope they have another party this Christmas & go down with the new variant.

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Narcissist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounded like he wasn't there tho ... Was a tory party not Boris's...

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Another anti-Boris-only thread. Since time immemorial, politicians of all colours have a 'do as I say, not as I do' approach to life. Corbyn broke the rule of 6 at an Islington dinner do. Champagne socialists on the left are worse when it comes to hypocrisy. Shami Chakrabarti on TV seems more uncomfortable than ever. Her Labour peerage embarrasses her and asked by Robert Peston why she sends her son to £18k-a-year Dulwich College, she was hunched up and defensive, an irritated hedgehog in a ball. Abbott does the same. Lucas of the Greens tells everyone to get out of planes to 'save the planet' but regularly flies to the US to see family but doesn't want you to know that.

Boris is the least of our worries on the hypocrisy front. Look left.

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By *igNick1381Man
over a year ago

BRIDGEND

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though. "

There's lots of examples of politicians enjoying mask free gatherings throughout the last 18 month's

Like Mogg said, they all know each other so it's fine

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Another anti-Boris-only thread. Since time immemorial, politicians of all colours have a 'do as I say, not as I do' approach to life. Corbyn broke the rule of 6 at an Islington dinner do. Champagne socialists on the left are worse when it comes to hypocrisy. Shami Chakrabarti on TV seems more uncomfortable than ever. Her Labour peerage embarrasses her and asked by Robert Peston why she sends her son to £18k-a-year Dulwich College, she was hunched up and defensive, an irritated hedgehog in a ball. Abbott does the same. Lucas of the Greens tells everyone to get out of planes to 'save the planet' but regularly flies to the US to see family but doesn't want you to know that.

Boris is the least of our worries on the hypocrisy front. Look left. "

And your point is? That makes it ok? We should ignore it because others have done stuff? How far back do we draw a line?

Whataboutism doesn’t excuse things. In this example we are talking about the Prime Minister. The person ultimately responsible for deciding to enact rules and restrictions on the citizens of this country. The buck stops with him and yet there are people who constantly give this insidious bafoon a pass no matter what he does.

You know it is ok to criticise the leader of the team even when they are your team right?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I don't see how sending a child to private school is comparable to going to a party in lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris is the least of our worries on the hypocrisy front. Look left. "

Breaking the rules that you and your party put on place is more embarrassing/hypocritical imo.

I'd also suggest the scale of the rule break was different....

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By *akie32Man
over a year ago

winchester

and your suprised why?

every mp is only looking out for themself, and voting for someone else wont make a difference, they are all from the same tree. do what i do and just ignor them, they are an irelivance in day to day life anyway

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By *mma_EvansTV/TS
over a year ago

Colchester

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?"

As soon as I saw the thread title, I thought this may have had something to do with Cynthia Payne

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Boris is the least of our worries on the hypocrisy front. Look left. "

I don't understand your point? So you're saying it's okay for us to find the actions of "left wing" politicians to be contradictory or morally reprehensible, but we're not allowed to discuss it when it comes to Boris? Is this something else that he is seemingly immune to?

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By *irtyold manMan
over a year ago

barnsley

When the house of commons stated that boris is responsible for thousand of extra deaths due to incompetense

Its time for a vote of no confidence in the current leader

Youre own gov has said it so listen up

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"I wonder how many of those who voted for this clown will actually accept that he's betrayed them, and decide never to vote for him or his party again....not very many I suspect. "

Your last sentence is correct and I'll be one of them

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm unsurprised but don't care all that much given it'll just generate noise not consequences. I know how to behave, and I wouldn't model my behaviour on politicians anyway.

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By *ick270Man
over a year ago

Here

If the best Starmer can come up with,but he is void of policy so go for the man.

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

"If the best Starmer can come up with,but he is void of policy so go for the man."

He also has nailed them on working class dementia tax

Cronyism/sleaze/corruption for their mates

Lack of new hospitals as promised.

That's just in the last two weeks.

Another classic 'but Labour!'..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Twat never invited us. Must have been demoted to a pleb.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

If I remember correctly the second lock down ended in November. The first week or two of December we weren't in any kind of lock down anyway.

So what's all the fuss about?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"If I remember correctly the second lock down ended in November. The first week or two of December we weren't in any kind of lock down anyway.

So what's all the fuss about? "

London was in tier 3. It matters because they broke their own rules that they expected everyone else to follow.

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By *tockport 69Couple
over a year ago

Stockport

we had a great time last xmas lot of sexy fun with friends and no one as got covic so this year will be the same but in the hot sun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Basically he lies whenever he moves his lips I hope whoever told the press is able to provide further proof.

Time and time again he is caught lying. Blood is on his hands over deaths re covid example knowingly agreeing to send covid infected people into care homes and over 20000 deaths later.

Its only because he got found out that they pretended to care about those in care homes.

Yet folk say oh its only boris being boris a dangerous pathalogical liar.

We knew very little about COVID-19 when people were released in to care homes. It was a massive learning curve.

Hindsight is the worlds best science, but even hindsight says that if didn't spread around care homes, it would have spread around the Hospitals that the patients were released from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If I remember correctly the second lock down ended in November. The first week or two of December we weren't in any kind of lock down anyway.

So what's all the fuss about?

London was in tier 3. It matters because they broke their own rules that they expected everyone else to follow."

It was a year ago - get over it!

Our Government are working hard, doing their best for us. They might not always get it right every time, but even the poor decisions have to be better than the alternative!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"If I remember correctly the second lock down ended in November. The first week or two of December we weren't in any kind of lock down anyway.

So what's all the fuss about?

London was in tier 3. It matters because they broke their own rules that they expected everyone else to follow.

It was a year ago - get over it!

Our Government are working hard, doing their best for us. They might not always get it right every time, but even the poor decisions have to be better than the alternative!

Sounds like a charter for the incompetent

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"If I remember correctly the second lock down ended in November. The first week or two of December we weren't in any kind of lock down anyway.

So what's all the fuss about?

London was in tier 3. It matters because they broke their own rules that they expected everyone else to follow.

It was a year ago - get over it!

Our Government are working hard, doing their best for us. They might not always get it right every time, but even the poor decisions have to be better than the alternative!

No one could describe boris as a hard worker. This government have got most things wrong in the pandemic. I fail to see how any other government doing this badly.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"If the best Starmer can come up with,but he is void of policy so go for the man."

Who ever he is, it's us that they represent and serve. The constant failures, lies and tens of thousands of needless deaths is more than enough for any state to contemplate as appropriate from the people who serve us.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though. "

Boris was not hosting them, they were staff parties according to the reports,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If the best Starmer can come up with,but he is void of policy so go for the man.

The thousands of deaths have occurred in almost every country throughout the world. Although we had a bad start, many countries are now overtaking us in the league tables.

Perhaps you should educate yourself about the virus and how it works, rather than blaming 'multiple' governments for something they cannot control.

Also, take some responsibility for yourself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly."

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

From John Major's 'back to basics' hypocrisy to Blair. I recall the Stern report into climate change and Blair said it was "possibly the most important document ever to cross my desk as prime minister" but then dismissed attempts to curb aviation - the UK's fastest source of carbon emissions - as "implausible".

At a time when New Labour were still making big noises about cutting car use, the deputy prime minister and then-environment secretary was caught out by being driven from the Bournemouth Highcliffe hotel to the Bournemouth International conference centre - a journey of some 250 yards.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

All people are human and fail. All of what you put is pretty irrelevant. Obviously tory politicians tend to be more involved in financial wrongdoings. This isn't about which party did what it's about setting rules that you don't follow and seems have no intention to.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

"I thought this may have had something to do with Cynthia Payne"

Wrong Tory Sleaze era.

We need to scrap politics and start again. So many MPs are corrupt and untrustworthy, and the electorate are plain stupid.

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

Loving the idea that if someone holds a party at your house it's nothing to do with you!

https://youtu.be/V4Wgmyl2Z1w

Watch that and tell me he did his best.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was probably a swingers party.....

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Obviously? Think your forgetting the MP expenses scandal. Have a look at which party the MPs prosecuted most belonged to. Hint : look left!

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By *hroatQueen_CATV/TS
over a year ago

Carlisle

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Obviously? Think your forgetting the MP expenses scandal. Have a look at which party the MPs prosecuted most belonged to. Hint : look left!

Labour were in power so had more mps so wouldn't be surprised if more of their mps were involved. A cursory look at the mps involved the spread looks pretty even with probably slightly more tory mps involved. This is deflection anyway and has little to do with the sh*tshow this government has presided over during the pandemic. They are riddled with incompetence and cronyism. They have an us them attitude to rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see how sending a child to private school is comparable to going to a party in lockdown."

Costs about the same if you get caught?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Boris is the current PM. And makes one gaff after another. Some lefties pay enough tax to pay his salary so will feel they are entitled to poke fun at him as much as they please! Not much poling fun at Blair or John Major is there. They’re fookin retired!

Unless someone here is Boris under cover why would it irk them so much? Or is the need to defend him some sort of cultist idolatry like football or android vs iphone where fanboys get their nickers in a twist?

Quite curious how people think that the behaviour of politicians years after the ballot box reflects poorly on a single voter who only put an c in a box on a piece of paper. There is no need to take these things so personally.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

There will never be a gaffe bigger than the war in Iraq. People don't so much poke fun at him as rightly thoroughly denounce him for this horrific invasion. Certainly not taking it personally nor necessarily defending him. Boris bashing by the holier than thou Left just gets boring. And I'd take Peppa Pig over the Iraq war every day of the week

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By *ristoltony40Man
over a year ago

bristol

Wouldn't listen to any politicians word on having parties anyway , if you're shocked by them being duplicitous more fool you for doing what they said in the first place . If you did follow lockdown for your own reasons it shouldn't matter to you what other people are doing and if you'd didn't lockdown it doesn't matter to you what MPs did anyway , too much bitching about what other people are doing on this subject anyway

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By *e CapCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

It’s obvious that Boris & comp. don’t believe in what they are preaching. To me this raises lots of questions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thought the title was Boris Private Parts

Thank god I'm wrong!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One rule for politicians and one rule for the plebs the whole lot of corrupt bastards

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"One rule for politicians and one rule for the plebs the whole lot of corrupt bastards "

Bit of a generalisation? Most MPs go into politics for the best of intentions and to serve their constituents.

Pretty sure Vince Cable would take great exception to being dubbed 'a corrupt bastard'. The investigation showed he came out of the expenses scandal unblemished. Not a penny overclaimed.

And it would be nice to think you wouldn't approach James Brokenshire's widow or David Amess' widow and tell them they've just lost 'corrupt bastards'.

Not saying our MPs are paragons of virtue but

Britain’s parliamentarians of all colours are amongst the best in the world. No country has a 100% perfect pandemic response. Any British national could always stand for election and show everyone how they will be the one to operate with 100% honesty and integrity and how they will deal perfectly with the next pandemic and everything else.

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By *asycouple1971Couple
over a year ago

midlands

This party is a living episode of Spitting Image, I bet the writers of Spitting Image cant come up with anything like that.

I really have no idea where all this will end.

What was Downing Street police/ MET doing when this party was going on? Turning a blind eye? We need answers from the Home Secretary or New Scotland Yard.

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By *readsOfValhallaCouple
over a year ago

birmingham

"Welcome...on todays episode of the internet...Stupidity!...from all angles and from EVERYONE!"..."looks like a repeat of yesterdays news Alan"

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Just checking this is 12 months ago right ?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Pretty immoral how the politically motivated are hoping to gain votes out of coronavirus

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"Just checking this is 12 months ago right ?"

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pretty immoral how the politically motivated are hoping to gain votes out of coronavirus"
should make £ instead ...

Although as well as left v right, covid is also used in brexit discussions too....

But tbf it is a policial question as well as health.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Just checking this is 12 months ago right ?

Yes "

And people are still banging on about it

labour just use it to bash the opposition

Have another enquiry just to him up the works even more taking resources from other things.

Time to move in and look forward not backwards all of the time .

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Just checking this is 12 months ago right ?

Yes

And people are still banging on about it

labour just use it to bash the opposition

Have another enquiry just to him up the works even more taking resources from other things.

Time to move in and look forward not backwards all of the time ."

I am sure all criminals would love it if no court case or police investigation could be retrospective! Oh that happened in the past so let’s just ignore it shall we!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Nice attempt at reducing the seriousness of BJ’s actions. What’s your view on all the spurious contracts awarding £billions of our money to Tory donors, family and chums? Is that ok?

What’s your view on the 6 week delay to closing the border to India allowing Delta to run riot in the UK?

Any thoughts on the decision to push untested old people out of hospitals and into care homes where staff lacked PPE and resorted to bin liners?

Could go on but no point as the cultists just cannot allow any criticism of their glorious leader! Deflection and whataboutism abound!

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By *arrapsMan
over a year ago

port talbot

Having the party doesn’t bother me in the slightest, what does though is the person who leaked it to the press.

As civil servants they are party to the official secrets act, therefore it’s they who should be prosecuted and Sir Kier Starmer should shut his and Angela Rayners collective gob

Fricking hypocrite

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Just checking this is 12 months ago right ?

Yes

And people are still banging on about it

labour just use it to bash the opposition

Have another enquiry just to him up the works even more taking resources from other things.

Time to move in and look forward not backwards all of the time .

I am sure all criminals would love it if no court case or police investigation could be retrospective! Oh that happened in the past so let’s just ignore it shall we!"

Not quite the same thing but carry on lol

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Nice attempt at reducing the seriousness of BJ’s actions. What’s your view on all the spurious contracts awarding £billions of our money to Tory donors, family and chums? Is that ok?

What’s your view on the 6 week delay to closing the border to India allowing Delta to run riot in the UK?

Any thoughts on the decision to push untested old people out of hospitals and into care homes where staff lacked PPE and resorted to bin liners?

Could go on but no point as the cultists just cannot allow any criticism of their glorious leader! Deflection and whataboutism abound!"

Thanks for the compliment. The attempt has gone down well judging by the private messages I've had. He's gaffe-prone no doubt. I recall him talking about alcohol in a Sikh temple, waving a fish during a rant about “pointless, expensive, environmentally damaging” EU regulations, claiming that Brussels bureaucracy had "massively" increased costs for fish suppliers because of rules saying that their products must be transported in ice.

However, it later emerged that the regulations had, in fact, been introduced by the UK government, not by the EU!

And there's others, some more serious. But nothing will ever come anywhere near close to Tony's Iraq mistake.

My point in all of this is not to defend Boris like a besotted cult member, but to point out that the Left makes mistakes all the time but has a horrible holier than thou hypocritical streak. My student son can't get enough of Captain Hindsight and the Left so I told him of a few cronyism tales from the Blair years - cash for passports anyone? Undeclared donations to Labour in 2007? Tony's Cronies? He looked at me crestfallen, saying Labour would never do that?!

The point is most of them do it. Human frailty. This is how you end up with old people saying 'I'm not voting for any of them, they're all the same!' It's just that the Left won't accept it and push a narrative on the public of 'Tory sleaze' as if it's only a one party problem.

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

Who never went to a Westminster party?

, btw i never met the couple Boris

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Is there any one that didn't break the rules even slightly.

Hear hear! That's was my point. Politicians of all colours are hypocritical. But the thread opines these were 'Boris private parties'. He wasn't even there.

His excuse? "My wife doesn't like to have her hair blown about."

Then, as the minister responsible in cabinet for administering council tax,

Prescott failed to pay the council tax on a grace and favour flat in London's Admiralty Arch.

I just find the constant Boris-bashing lazy and biased. They're all always at it, whether in Opposition or Govt.

But the Lefty tossers are always at it a bit more

Nice attempt at reducing the seriousness of BJ’s actions. What’s your view on all the spurious contracts awarding £billions of our money to Tory donors, family and chums? Is that ok?

What’s your view on the 6 week delay to closing the border to India allowing Delta to run riot in the UK?

Any thoughts on the decision to push untested old people out of hospitals and into care homes where staff lacked PPE and resorted to bin liners?

Could go on but no point as the cultists just cannot allow any criticism of their glorious leader! Deflection and whataboutism abound!

However, it later emerged that the regulations had, in fact, been introduced by the UK government, not by the EU!

And there's others, some more serious. But nothing will ever come anywhere near close to Tony's Iraq mistake.

The Left know they aren't any more virtuous than anyone else.

But they think they'll get votes by pretending to be better.

They think we're stupid

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

You do realise that some of us who criticise Johnson and this Govt don’t actually class ourselves as “left”. This tribalist binary nonsense really needs to stop.

Johnson is a shit PM! His Ministers are all shit as well. They aren’t Conservatives. Thatcher would be turning in her grave. They are opportunistic self serving proto-fascists. They are insidious, dangerous, corrupt.

And no, I didn’t like some of what Corbyn stood for either. Would he/they have done a better job these past 18mths? We will never know. I suspect they would have got some things right/done better and other things wrong/done worse. However, I am pretty confident they wouldn’t have stolen as much if our money to give it to their friends, because they don’t have those sorts of friends.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though. "

What's the problem?

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over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

As soon as I saw the thread title, I thought this may have had something to do with Cynthia Payne"

Pmsl brilliant

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By *g1231974Man
over a year ago

wetherby

"And the Brits elected him with a massive majority. Sad country.

Whilst I am generally a Conservative voter I feel very uncomfortable supporting the current government. That said, I could never have voted for a Corbyn led government - it always feels like he actively dislikes Britain.

There does seem to be a huge gap in between the parties though, currently I think I'd probably vote for a 'New Labour' style party if one existed.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"You do realise that some of us who criticise Johnson and this Govt don’t actually class ourselves as “left”. This tribalist binary nonsense really needs to stop.

'we don't class ourselves as left'

'this nonsense really needs to stop'

Typical revealing leftie control-speak followed by 'Johnson is shit'. And who do you class as Corbyn's friends? Well, by his own admission, that's Hamas and Hezbollah. Pressed in a BBC interview to condemn IRA terrorism, Mr Corbyn five times evaded the question! I know which party I'd vote for when it comes to assessing their 'friends'.

Under Jezza (a Covid rule breaker too) Labour lost its identity as a party of constitutional politics, whose centre-left voters the party apparently neither wanted nor respected. I voted Labour in 97 and 01 but after Iraq, and the revolting Corbyn years where he seemed to have difficulty denouncing terrorism, Starmer has much more to do to win back my support and that of millions more to win an election. The stench of Stalinism grew stronger and ranker in the Corbyn years, but thankfully the British people consigned Comrade Corbyn and his cronies to the dustbin of history where they belong. You'd have been better using adjectives like 'insidious' and 'dangerous' about the Hard Left. I was never in any doubt that Corbyn was a dishonest chancer with some seriously dangerous supporters. Arthur Scargill was more honest; you knew what he stood for. Corbyn pretends to be a bumbling old man with an allotment but it's all a ruse. Give me losing your place in a speech and Peppa Pig any day of the week over that kind of alternative and his 'friends'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"One rule for some people in this country another for the working class if it become a fact Boris and who ever else attend this party they should all be sack on the spot "

It is a fact .....which bit did you miss.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fail to understand why everybody calls him Boris, as far back as I can remember prime ministers have been referred to by their surnames, I can't recall people using David, Margret or Tony, or Harold etc. Johnson is a devious, lying scheming individual and in my opinion has cultivated the "Boris" thing to make himself look cuddly and harmless so that the constant lying (and there is a LOT of lying) is just "Boris being Boris" he is actually a very clever man.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"You do realise that some of us who criticise Johnson and this Govt don’t actually class ourselves as “left”. This tribalist binary nonsense really needs to stop.

'we don't class ourselves as left'

'this nonsense really needs to stop'

What is “revealing” is how you went straight on the attack and failed to address a specific point I was making and instead took it in a different direction. Your response is precisely what I mean by tribalist binary nonsense needing to stop.

Interestingly I agree with a lot of what you say about Corbyn. For me he made Labour unelectable. Like you I had initial belief and even excitement over New Labour in 97 and 01 and despite his flaws that increasingly came to light, Blair did a lot of good. Then he fucked it with Iraq and PPP.

I am not “leftist” I am most ardently a centrists. Politically my natural home ought to be the Lib Dems but they are a shambles too. For me pragmatism trumps ideology. Better to achieve 80% but make some compromises then blindly stick to your ideology and achieve far less (or nothing if you can’t get elected).

Your points on Corbyn and his stance on IRA, Hamas etc are one of the reasons I could not support Corbyn along with the Momentum take over of the party. Corbyn’s wishywashy stance in Brexit was another area that angered me.

But while you raise those points they did not address the point I was making in relation to the corruption of the current govt. I maintain that a Corbyn led govt would not have stolen £billions of our money and transferred it to their donors, cronies, friends and families because the type of “friends” they have/had would not have been in a position to exploit the situation.

And none of this talk about the weaknesses of Corbyn or Labour removes the fact that Johnson is a shit PM. His Ministers are shit. We do not have a “Conservative” government. We have a proto-fascists/populist govt led by corrupt self serving thieves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has it gone unnoticed that absolutely NONE of these claims have been substantiated????

Firstly, even if it happened, Boris Johnson was not there, so how can be held responsible.

Secondly, it is media sleaze at its absolute finest!

As you were, carry on!

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over a year ago

"Having the party doesn’t bother me in the slightest, what does though is the person who leaked it to the press.

As civil servants they are party to the official secrets act, therefore it’s they who should be prosecuted and Sir Kier Starmer should shut his and Angela Rayners collective gob

Fricking hypocrite "

None of it has been substantiated though. It stinks of sleaze to me, the Government are spending far to much time defending themselves from the sleaze of Labour rather than being allowed to get on with the job in hand.

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

"Having the party doesn’t bother me in the slightest, what does though is the person who leaked it to the press.

As civil servants they are party to the official secrets act, therefore it’s they who should be prosecuted and Sir Kier Starmer should shut his and Angela Rayners collective gob

Fricking hypocrite

They wouldn't have to defend themselves if they were not doing illegal things.

It is literally the job of the opposition to hold them to account.

The official secrets act is not there to cover up illegal parties.

The person who leaked it is almost certainly D. Cummings.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Having the party doesn’t bother me in the slightest, what does though is the person who leaked it to the press.

As civil servants they are party to the official secrets act, therefore it’s they who should be prosecuted and Sir Kier Starmer should shut his and Angela Rayners collective gob

Fricking hypocrite

Maybe if they weren't so corrupt then the Tories wouldn't need to defend themselves against corruption charges?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Has it gone unnoticed that absolutely NONE of these claims have been substantiated????

Firstly, even if it happened, Boris Johnson was not there, so how can be held responsible.

Secondly, it is media sleaze at its absolute finest!

As you were, carry on!

Boris has refused to deny it when asked in parliament. Boris gave a speech at this leaving party. At the same time of year last year 2 students were fined £10000 each for holding a party at their flat as they were held liable for the party attendees. Do as I say not as I do.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"You do realise that some of us who criticise Johnson and this Govt don’t actually class ourselves as “left”. This tribalist binary nonsense really needs to stop.

'we don't class ourselves as left'

'this nonsense really needs to stop'

We will never know how a Corbyn led Government would have behaved as thankfully he never became PM. However, Labour has plenty, if not more, financial sleaze form than the Tories and there is no evidence that the further left you go, the purer the politics.

Don't you recall in March 2010, three former Labour ministers - Geoff Hoon, Stephen Byers and Patricia Hewitt -were suspended from the party after they were videoed by Channel 4's Dispatches programme apparently offering to help a lobbying firm in return for cash.

Mr Byers, a former transport secretary, was filmed saying he was like a "cab for hire" who would work for up to £5,000 a day.

Ex-defence secretary Mr Hoon said he wanted to make use of his knowledge and contacts in a way that "makes money" and that he charged £3,000 a day.

In December 2006, Tony Blair became the first prime minister to be interviewed by police in the course of a criminal investigation.

Officers were probing allegations that peerages were offered in return for million-pound loans to parties, following a complaint by Scottish National Party MP Angus MacNeil.

In addition to Iraq, this scandal dogged Blair's final years at No 10 and saw him interviewed three times by police.

Meanwhile, Labour were charged over £7500 for Mrs Blairs hair dos, Sandra Howard paid £65. Nice work at £7500 for your hairdresser friends if you can get it.

Have you forgotten the 'cash-for-passports' scandal that led to Peter Mandelson's Cabinet resignation? The Hinduja brothers?

You appear to have a romantic and fanciful view of the Left as being whiter than white. My point is they're all touched by human frailty and it is absurd to pretend the Left are purer than the Tories. I'm not I assure you tribally supporting the Tories. But the 'left is pure, the right is sleazy' is just not borne out by the facts.

You also seem to have difficulty in differentiating between opinion and fact. It is a fact to say Boris Johnson is the Prime minister. It is purely opinion to say Boris Johnson is a 'shit' Prime minister, so it is nonsense to say 'remove the fact that Johnson is a shit PM'

You could talk about removing the opinion that Johnson is etc, but why would anyone want to? We live in an open democracy where your opinion is just as valid as mine. As the saying goes, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

But just because you hold an opinion on Boris does not make it fact, no matter how much you repeat it.

Most people are centrist or just slightly left or right of center. Far right and far left are both dangerous and in the political horseshoe theory, end up meeting round the back with similar totalitarian views. World War II did not start with Nazi Germany invading Poland. It started with both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union invading Poland. Communists joined with fascists to start the most destructive war in the history of the world.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

And ONCE AGAIN you go completely down the whataboutism route. Just because other people have been crap doesn’t mean Johnson get’s a pass. He is lazy, lacking in attention to detail, indecisive. He is the worst PM at the worst time.

You say I have a “romantic view of the left” huh!!! Where have I said that?

You say “But the 'left is pure, the right is sleazy' is just not borne out by the facts.” And again where have I said any such thing?

You are completely failing to read what is said as you are too busy trying to prove a point!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

I see that 38 people were charged with child abuse in an English town last week.

Good to see that our political class has its priorities right and is obsessing about a Christmas party 12 months ago.

An eye opener.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"And ONCE AGAIN you go completely down the whataboutism route. Just because other people have been crap doesn’t mean Johnson get’s a pass. He is lazy, lacking in attention to detail, indecisive. He is the worst PM at the worst time.

You say I have a “romantic view of the left” huh!!! Where have I said that?

You say “But the 'left is pure, the right is sleazy' is just not borne out by the facts.” And again where have I said any such thing?

You are completely failing to read what is said as you are too busy trying to prove a point!

I agree with you. This isn't about left or right or even tory or labour. The tory party especially the at the head of government has been stripped of pretty much all its decent and intelligent politician. In the tory parties case this was caused by brexit. Labour had a similar thing with reform and corbynism. An incompetent and lazy pm and government wouldn't be a massive problem in normal times as the Civil servants would keep the country ticking over, but we are having a major crisis at the moment and a competent government would have helped be it a labor or a tory one. This government is riddled with cronyism and think normal rules do not apply to them.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

You say I have a “romantic view of the left” huh!!! Where have I said that?

You say “But the 'left is pure, the right is sleazy' is just not borne out by the facts.” And again where have I said any such thing?

You are completely failing to read what is said as you are too busy trying to prove a point!

Exactly. It’s weird the lengths some people will go to defend “their team”. It’s as if they’ve forgotten that it is ok to be critical of your team when they aren’t performing or are doing some things wrong! Nothing and nobody is perfect!

I just cannot fathom how more people aren’t angrier about the theft of £billions of our money?!

It’s almost like their argument is:

Stuart Sutcliffe wasn’t really much of a serial killer because we also had Fred & Rosemarie West and they were serial killers! Erm

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Stuart Sutcliffe wasn’t really much of a serial killer"

He wasn't a serial killer at all. He was the original bass player in the Beatles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You say I have a “romantic view of the left” huh!!! Where have I said that?

You say “But the 'left is pure, the right is sleazy' is just not borne out by the facts.” And again where have I said any such thing?

You are completely failing to read what is said as you are too busy trying to prove a point!

I just cannot fathom how more people aren’t angrier about the theft of £billions of our money?!

It’s almost like their argument is:

Stuart Sutcliffe wasn’t really much of a serial killer because we also had Fred & Rosemarie West and they were serial killers! Erm

Pride can be a powerful bedfellow to cognitive dissonance.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Stuart Sutcliffe wasn’t really much of a serial killer

He wasn't a serial killer at all. He was the original bass player in the Beatles"

Well spotted

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"I see that 38 people were charged with child abuse in an English town last week.

Good to see that our political class has its priorities right and is obsessing about a Christmas party 12 months ago.

An eye opener."

What about some other non related stuff?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"I see that 38 people were charged with child abuse in an English town last week.

Good to see that our political class has its priorities right and is obsessing about a Christmas party 12 months ago.

An eye opener.

What about some other non related stuff?"

You mean the floods? Also not deemed to be important by our political class and resident obsessives? Not as important as a Christmas party 12 months ago. Very revealing

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"I see that 38 people were charged with child abuse in an English town last week.

Good to see that our political class has its priorities right and is obsessing about a Christmas party 12 months ago.

An eye opener.

What about some other non related stuff?

You mean the floods? Also not deemed to be important by our political class and resident obsessives? Not as important as a Christmas party 12 months ago. Very revealing"

Anything else unrelated?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people"

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Stuart Sutcliffe wasn’t really much of a serial killer

He wasn't a serial killer at all. He was the original bass player in the Beatles"

Oh bollocks! Peter obviously!

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it. "

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselves"
imo it's important that those who make the rules, stick by the rules. Especailly when they have just made thsoe rules ...

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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago

warwick

Pretty sure we’ve had lots of parties when we shouldn’t have …… but hey ho

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselves"

So not only do we live in a country where the government shits on and laughs at the ordinary people. But you get attacked for even suggesting that the government shouldn't shit on us.

Amazing.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselves

So not only do we live in a country where the government shits on and laughs at the ordinary people. But you get attacked for even suggesting that the government shouldn't shit on us.

Amazing."

But it's YOUR side that wants to 'shit on people' (your phrase) with energy poverty, child abuse, hatred and intolerance...but gleefully turns a blind eye when something as piddling as a 12-month old Christmas party comes to light.

It's all about priorities. VERY illuminating

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Pretty sure we’ve had lots of parties when we shouldn’t have …… but hey ho "

Pretty sure you aren’t setting Govt policy and dictating the rules you are expecting c.70million people to abide by...but hey ho

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselvesimo it's important that those who make the rules, stick by the rules. Especailly when they have just made thsoe rules ..."

Thanks. Good point about irrelevance, eh, of those who go on about a 12-month-old Christmas party while ignoring child abuse and people freezing.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"And poor people who can't afford to keep warm because if energy bills inflated by climate nonsense.

Yet the political obsessives can raise even a squeak... they've got a Christmas party from lady year to fuss about!

Sick people

Lol

Back to your climate confusion! Amazing. That was a lot of fun.

It's amazing how far people will go to excuse the Tories shitting on ordinary people and laughing about it.

There are hundreds of issues you could talk about but...no, there's a Christmas party you can score points off.

Irrelevance and hatred. Take a good look at yourselves

So not only do we live in a country where the government shits on and laughs at the ordinary people. But you get attacked for even suggesting that the government shouldn't shit on us.

Amazing.

It's all about priorities. VERY illuminating"

Just to be crystal clear. Your confusion about climate change and willful misunderstanding of fossil fuel subsidies, is entirely unrelated to my opinion of the way this government acts.

I don't know which "side" you think I'm on. But to clarify this too, I am on the side of real life information. And I am on the side of not wanting the government to be a bunch of self serving pricks.

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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago

warwick

"Pretty sure we’ve had lots of parties when we shouldn’t have …… but hey ho

Pretty sure you aren’t setting Govt policy and dictating the rules you are expecting c.70million people to abide by...but hey ho"

Good point lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At the time the Downing Street Xmas parties happened - there were apparently several - they were flat out illegal. We had all been told such parties were illegal at that time. The people who made such parties illegal at that time were the government.

Shouldn't people who make laws abide by the laws they make? The issue is as simple and as damning as that.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

"Narcissist"

No - More Karma

Darwen theory should prevail..

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By *hat BlokeMan
over a year ago

Harrogate

It amazes me how some people try to use deflection to take the heat out of one topic or another. If you want talk about child abuse, start a thread. If you want to talk about climate change, start a thread. This thread is highlighting what a set of sleazy rotten scumbags we as a country have in our government. Agree or disagree. Do not deflect. It makes you sound like. Politician.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brusters Millions, when Richard Pryor played a baseball player who has to spend a million and show nothing for it?

He spent loads on a political campaign with the slogan vote for none of the above.

advice I took a long time ago

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By *eachcplCouple
over a year ago

blackpool/preston/normandy france

Boris is nothing but a sleazey self centred slob. He is a disgrace to the office he holds and clearly believes he is exempt from laws and rules, as do many members of his cabinet. Even Raab was on tv yesterday trying to defend this alleged Christmas party, which he continually said was based on unsubstantiated claims. Typical lawyer talk. How can anyone have any belief in this government.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"It amazes me how some people try to use deflection to take the heat out of one topic or another. If you want talk about child abuse, start a thread. If you want to talk about climate change, start a thread. This thread is highlighting what a set of sleazy rotten scumbags we as a country have in our government. Agree or disagree. Do not deflect. It makes you sound like. Politician."

SPOT ON

Whataboutism and deflection have become key weapons in the arsenal to “defend my team at all costs”

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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago

notts

Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men

Now, wise man may be a stretch for Boris but he certainly isn't stupid. He's had covid, so have pretty much all his colleagues, he knows the actual chances of catching it twice,risk assessment = pretty safe.

Everyone can make their own risk assessment based on their personal circumstances. If you are not clever enough, then you have the rules to follow. Win-win.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men

Everyone can make their own risk assessment based on their personal circumstances. If you are not clever enough, then you have the rules to follow. Win-win.

"
if most have caught covid by Dec 2020, I'd suggest they aren't good at risk management! Although I'm sure noone did anything as daft as go round a hospital shaking hands ...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men

Everyone can make their own risk assessment based on their personal circumstances. If you are not clever enough, then you have the rules to follow. Win-win.

So the rule of law is only for stupid people.

I thought it was an underpinning of democracy and a gift from Britain to the rest of the world.

But I suppose if it's inconvenient to the Tories it too can be thrown away.

Does wisdom override the germ theory of disease too, or just leadership principles and the basis of our legal system?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" None of it has been substantiated though. It stinks of sleaze to me, the Government are spending far to much time defending themselves from the sleaze of Labour rather than being allowed to get on with the job in hand.

They wouldn't have to defend themselves if they were not doing illegal things.

It is literally the job of the opposition to hold them to account.

The official secrets act is not there to cover up illegal parties.

The person who leaked it is almost certainly D. Cummings. "

They should not have to be defending themselves from blatant lies and Sleaze!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn't people who make laws abide by the laws they make? The issue is as simple and as damning as that."

The KEY Here being, We DO NOT know if the parties happened?????

None of the reports have been substantiated.

It is merely just the usual lies and sleaze!

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By *avana8817Man
over a year ago

Consett

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though. "

These restrictions have nothing to do with your health, its all about power and control, alongside Personal financial gain.

If it was about health, mass testing would be Mandatory rather than a vaccine stats, if your vaccinated, you still catch it and still spread it as the viral load sits in your Sinuses, the same as someone unvaxed.

The fact that all these rules makers have broken their own restrictions should speak volume. They should be leading by example, but they arent. They lead with “do as i say, rather than do as i do”

Life is not a Guarantee, this could be yours or a loved ones last Christmas…so they can shove any restrictions they have in the pipeline

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By *aiseiMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"These restrictions have nothing to do with your health, its all about power and control, alongside Personal financial gain."

To what end? There is nothing positive to be gained from a power play by locking down over Christmas…..only a heap of bad press, public resentment and further potential retail losses.

I’m sure someone is pocketing somewhere, this is politics after all; but I’m yet to see a ‘power and control’ argument with any credibility.

"If it was about health, mass testing would be Mandatory rather than a vaccine stats"

Which costs a lot money that’s coming from where, after all the previous expense and losses over the last two years? Ultimately, it will be taxpayers. Are you happy to fund it? Not having a dig, genuine question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I so misread the title and and thought it said private parts... except there no so private as hes a massive cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"These restrictions have nothing to do with your health, its all about power and control, alongside Personal financial gain.

To what end? There is nothing positive to be gained from a power play by locking down over Christmas…..only a heap of bad press, public resentment and further potential retail losses.

I’m sure someone is pocketing somewhere, this is politics after all; but I’m yet to see a ‘power and control’ argument with any credibility.

If it was about health, mass testing would be Mandatory rather than a vaccine stats

What is the cost of vaccines versus testing? Genuinely interested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Testing is somewhat ineffective.

Its a bit like having sex bare and getting tested regularly so you know when not to infect others, except your already infected and possibly already infected others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"These restrictions have nothing to do with your health, its all about power and control, alongside Personal financial gain.

To what end? There is nothing positive to be gained from a power play by locking down over Christmas…..only a heap of bad press, public resentment and further potential retail losses.

I’m sure someone is pocketing somewhere, this is politics after all; but I’m yet to see a ‘power and control’ argument with any credibility.

If it was about health, mass testing would be Mandatory rather than a vaccine stats

What is the cost of vaccines versus testing? Genuinely interested."
looks like UK is paying c gbp22 per Pfizer shot.

Testing kits look to be c gbp20 a pop too. There likely extra margin in there.

That is PCR I think so maybe other tests are cheaper.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Testing is somewhat ineffective.

Its a bit like having sex bare and getting tested regularly so you know when not to infect others, except your already infected and possibly already infected others.

This is commonly referred to as a fallacy, the use of faulty reasoning.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Testing is somewhat ineffective.

Its a bit like having sex bare and getting tested regularly so you know when not to infect others, except your already infected and possibly already infected others.

It's more like testing before deciding to BB with someone. Perfect? No. Prudent? Yes.

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

They wouldn't have to defend themselves if they were not doing illegal things.

It is literally the job of the opposition to hold them to account.

The official secrets act is not there to cover up illegal parties.

The person who leaked it is almost certainly D. Cummings.

They should not have to be defending themselves from blatant lies and Sleaze! "

I'm not sure if you are serious or understand the words you are using.

There was an event. We know that. Raab confirmed so yesterday as did whoever they put up on Question Time, as did The PM at PMs questions.

The event was against the rules. We know that too.

They are now saying that it's ok as police don't investigate things retrospectively, which is great cos it reminded me to call the police about the burglary happening a week Tuesday.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I'm not sure if you are serious or understand the words you are using.

There was an event. We know that. Raab confirmed so yesterday as did whoever they put up on Question Time, as did The PM at PMs questions.

The event was against the rules. We know that too.

They are now saying that it's ok as police don't investigate things retrospectively, which is great cos it reminded me to call the police about the burglary happening a week Tuesday.

Totally serious, Firstly; I saw Raab on the very same programme and he said that "No report had been substantiated".

Secondly; Boris himself said that he couldn't comment on something where he wasn't present or unsubstantiated.

Thirdly; Stop blaming Boris, even if this happened, he didn't arrange or attend it!!!!

Lastly: Get your facts right.

Unsubstantiated reports and sleaze = end of, move on.

Take some responsibility for yourselves!

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

Well it has been substantiated by multiple members of the government and the PM himself.

There was a party and just because someone is now contradicting their own statements a few hours before it doest mean it's true.

Johnson was asked at PMqs if there was a party. He diddnt say no. He said all rules were followed. Which we know is nonsense as any get together is against the rules.

It is his fault because it was happening at HIS OFFICIAL HOUSE!!!! We also know there was a farewell reception that went on into the night which he did attend and made a speech at, this was also against the rules.

Honestly the mental gymnastics people go to to try and absolve 'their team' from being held accountable is amazing.

Sleaze is giving your friends or contacts contracts to deliver things through a special arrangement and getting paid to do that. Also known as corruption. Not asking questions of the government that deal with illegal activity that they have been up to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I'm not sure if you are serious or understand the words you are using.

There was an event. We know that. Raab confirmed so yesterday as did whoever they put up on Question Time, as did The PM at PMs questions.

The event was against the rules. We know that too.

They are now saying that it's ok as police don't investigate things retrospectively, which is great cos it reminded me to call the police about the burglary happening a week Tuesday.

Totally serious, Firstly; I saw Raab on the very same programme and he said that "No report had been substantiated".

Secondly; Boris himself said that he couldn't comment on something where he wasn't present or unsubstantiated.

Thirdly; Stop blaming Boris, even if this happened, he didn't arrange or attend it!!!!

Lastly: Get your facts right.

Unsubstantiated reports and sleaze = end of, move on.

Take some responsibility for yourselves!

As much as it's hard to prove a negative I'd have welcomed a denial any such party took place.

The evasive language appears to speak volumes.

Boris not being there isn't a great defence. As their boss, if they can break the rules in such way, in his offices, and him not know ... That's not a great look.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

They wouldn't have to defend themselves if they were not doing illegal things.

It is literally the job of the opposition to hold them to account.

The official secrets act is not there to cover up illegal parties.

The person who leaked it is almost certainly D. Cummings.

They should not have to be defending themselves from blatant lies and Sleaze! "

Then they need to stop lying and generating sleaze. Simple really.

The simple fact that Johnson has not said the party at No.10 didn’t happen means it did, because he cannot risk denying it if evidence gets leaked.

He could try digging a deeper hole like Matt Hancock and his pub mates £200m contract but that’s not gone too well!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shouldn't people who make laws abide by the laws they make? The issue is as simple and as damning as that.

The KEY Here being, We DO NOT know if the parties happened?????

None of the reports have been substantiated.

It is merely just the usual lies and sleaze! "

Why so angry in your response? It's not as if I broke the law I myself made. (+ it's obvious the parties happened. Why do you think the government aren't saying the parties did not happen?)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Golden rule when a politician is asked a question like did X happen. If they give a straight denial there is a pretty good chance it didn't happen, as they can be caught out if they lie.

If you get the usual evasive answer and they won't say one way or the other than you can be certain that it did happen but they won't admit it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Golden rule when a politician is asked a question like did X happen. If they give a straight denial there is a pretty good chance it didn't happen, as they can be caught out if they lie.

If you get the usual evasive answer and they won't say one way or the other than you can be certain that it did happen but they won't admit it.

A bunch of cops likely know the parties took place. There is constantly a police presensce at 10 downing St. I'm sure that's part of the reason none of Johnson's cronies are simply denying the parties took place.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Golden rule when a politician is asked a question like did X happen. If they give a straight denial there is a pretty good chance it didn't happen, as they can be caught out if they lie.

If you get the usual evasive answer and they won't say one way or the other than you can be certain that it did happen but they won't admit it.

No bigger issues to campaign about, other than a year-old Christmas party?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though. "

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Golden rule when a politician is asked a question like did X happen. If they give a straight denial there is a pretty good chance it didn't happen, as they can be caught out if they lie.

If you get the usual evasive answer and they won't say one way or the other than you can be certain that it did happen but they won't admit it.

No bigger issues to campaign about, other than a year-old Christmas party?"

I think it's rather a big deal when legislators break the law they themselves made. Especially in such a blatant fasion. Especially when the rest of us were expected to follow the v same law or get fined.

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

Sorry....some profiles are saying how wrong of the government....yet I've looked at some of these profiles who themselves have meet veris from November 2020.....don't spout off when you were also having meets last year

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly..."

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!"

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced."

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Breaking the law isn't an issue to you it seems. Even by people who introduced said law. Even when the rest of us were expected to follow the same law. Even during a pandemic, when following such a law is important for all our health.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?"

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government."

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports."

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

Yet the lefties complained that lockdown restrictions weren't tough enough! Now you're hoping to gain support on the basis that people couldn't attend funerals etc...and yet you complain that restrictions weren't strict enough.

#Embarrassing

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By *aughtyAsian4funMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

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By *aughtyAsian4funMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Maybe he knows that all this is just bs

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By *aughtyAsian4funMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Maybe they know it's all rubbish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing"

What on Earth are you even talking about? I'm complaining because the government broke the law it introduced. I have said as much already.

And, yet again, I tell you I'm not actually a politician. So I don't care about votes or support.

And I'm not talking about "people" being unable to attend funerals. I mentioned my personal experience.

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

I absolutely love how you are all little sheep believing everything you hear on the news incidentally run by the government. Then argue on here .....a, swingers site..... ffs peeps pack it in.....and those those who keep ousting out for meets why are you????if there's something so deadly floating around.

Long Live Swinging, and, the true Swingers who actually meet,

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?"

What do I think of the no 10 xmas parties?

I need to know a few basics before I could possibly pass judgement..

Did they have ice-cream and jelly? Was pass the parcel and musical chairs played?

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

Nope.....they put all the keys into a bowl, blindfolded each other, then fucked the arses off each other

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Nope.....they put all the keys into a bowl, blindfolded each other, then fucked the arses off each other

Ah, no wonder the Met are not keen to investigate, those officers on guard would have some explaining to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rules are for the obeyance of fools and the guidance of wise men

Everyone can make their own risk assessment based on their personal circumstances. If you are not clever enough, then you have the rules to follow. Win-win.

Please point to the regulation or statutory instrument which makes this principle law.

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

"Nope.....they put all the keys into a bowl, blindfolded each other, then fucked the arses off each other

Ah, no wonder the Met are not keen to investigate, those officers on guard would have some explaining to do

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

Has anyone checked the meets section yet.....maybe they have put a meet up for this year, to stop any bickering .....I felt so left out of last years fuckery. Just us two and a few bottles of wine and porn

......off now to check meets section

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was a shit party anyway. Nobody missed much. Move along nothing to see

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

"It was a shit party anyway. Nobody missed much. Move along nothing to see

Whaaaaaa nooooo I WANT a PARTYYYY

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

Disappointing

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By *exysuzi and Mr.SCouple
over a year ago

CONISTON .Stoke Suburbia. Staffs. BARMOUTH. The Lakes (Monthly)

"Disappointing

Very....

All those filthy, kinky, posh boys gutted

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing"

The Left are always full of hypocrisy,constantly contradicting themselves with their own words and actions. That's why a bit of 'whataboutery' is fully justified to bring a bit of balance to the debate. It's certainly not about blind loyalty to Boris as some claim.

Among the many consequences of the Covid-19 pandemic, and the measures taken to control it, there has been the totally, totally justified cry of whataboutery. The point correctly goes “we have locked down the entire economy to reduce the number of deaths from Covid-19, but we tolerate comparably large numbers of deaths from flu, smoking, car crashes, cancer etc”

It's about asking people to consider everything in the round, but the Left like to portray it as deflection as their view is that their view alone must prevail. Therefore 'Boris is shit' end of. Err, no. Two sides to every coin, what about the other side?

Another completely acceptable form of Whataboutery is climate change: suddenly governments are capable of taking unprecedented measures in response to a pandemic while the same governments have spent years doing next to nothing to fight climate change. Suddenly the whole aviation industry can be shut down when previously, even a small tax on flight tickets was politically unpalatable. (And we have been bailing out the aviation industry).

And as I keep implying, the biggest mistake we can make is to treat politicians and leaders as more than human. Left or right, not all they do will be perfect. It is absurd to pretend Boris is less perfect than the Left.

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over a year ago

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing

Isn't it reasonable to expect Johnson should have actually tried to do his job during such an important crisis? As opposed to doing fuck all until far too late? And isn't it reasonable his government shouldn't have given shitloads of cash to mates over qualified people when it came to PPE? And isn't it reasonable that he should have followed the law his government introduced and enforced on other people for the general public health?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing

And they can be held criminally accountable, where applicable, like any other human would be.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-12-07/no-10-staff-joke-in-leaked-recording-about-christmas-party-they-later-denied

They are laughing at us

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing

And they can be held criminally accountable, where applicable, like any other human would be."

Naturally. Plenty have been. Even where, like Leftie MP John Stonehouse, they try to fake their own death to try to avoid it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So, what do we think of Boris hosting Christmas parties at number 10 last Christmas?

Champagne and nibbles at number 10 though.

Yup, sounds like the start to another unnecessary Boris hate thread.

"My nan can't see people or have a party, but Boris can!"

Honestly...

I think the petty nature of their obsessions explains why people no longer vote for Labour!

Such petty people. Expecting the government to follow the law it introduced.

To paraphrase Rupert Murdoch: 'So a Christmas party is the most important thing happening in Britain, is it?'

Indeed. What about the Kinnocks?

Fuck them too. And they broke the law in a far lesser way. And they weren't in government.

And you think this is the best issue you have to win votes?

Um... I'm not trying to win any votes. You seem to be under the misconception I'm a politician or a Labour member. I'm neither.

I simply despise the hypocrisy and lawbreaking of our government.

Lockdown rules meant I couldn't attend the funeral of 1 of my oldest frieds. I had to watch it via zoom. And our government happily broke the law to have a party - several parties, based on reports.

The proper response then was to have opposed lockdown.

#Embarrassing

And they can be held criminally accountable, where applicable, like any other human would be.

Naturally. Plenty have been. Even where, like Leftie MP John Stonehouse, they try to fake their own death to try to avoid it. "

Nice deflection

Some of us think that everyone should be held to the same standards under the criminal law. All the lefties, all the people on the right.

Although the leaked video of the trial run press conference really is the cherry on the shit sundae, isn't it.

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

Not really, no. No more embarrassing than the recording of Gordon Brown's 'stupid, bigoted woman' comment in the 2010 election, or Corbyn photographed with terrorists or Jonathan Ashworth, Labour’s shadow health secretary, admitting looking like a “right plonker” after a Conservative “friend” recorded and leaked audio of a conversation that they had about Jeremy Corbyn.

During their chat, Ashworth says that he “can’t see it happening” when asked if Labour could win the 2019 election and blames party leader Jeremy Corbyn and Brexit.

Asked whether he thinks Corbyn would pose a risk in No. 10, Ashworth says: “I think the machine will pretty quickly move to safeguard security.”

Give me Peppa Pig and a mock TV address blip any day over insulting the pensioner electorate, smiley pics with terrorists and 'plonkergate'

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By *heshbifellaMan
over a year ago

Nantwich

'Some of us think that everyone should be held to the same standards under the criminal law. All the lefties, all the people on the right'

Couldn't agree more

I keep saying it, but no politician is perfect or pure. Whatever the party. Labour just likes you to think they're purer.

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By *ired_upMan
over a year ago

ashton

Very much enjoying everyone trying to deflect after days of saying it diddnt happen.

They are laughing at you. Stop defending them.

When a labour MP broke the law they kicked her out. When a Tory broke the rules they tried to change the rules and scrap the whole system.

They are different.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"'Some of us think that everyone should be held to the same standards under the criminal law. All the lefties, all the people on the right'

Couldn't agree more

I keep saying it, but no politician is perfect or pure. Whatever the party. Labour just likes you to think they're purer. "

I never claimed Labour were pure. Hell, I'm not even a Labour voter

It's another thing to add to the list I suppose. Poor widdle Boris is only doing his best. Everyone makes mistakes. Tories should be held to the same standards as everyone else (while advocating for less than the lesser sanctions that they even get).

And, of course, the classic "but the other party do bad things too!"

I suppose it'll be the EU's fault, too, in a minute.

So the Tories shouldn't be blamed for flagrantly breaking their own rules because of all of this, yes?

Such personal responsibility. So strong and stable.

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By *ominantDogMan
over a year ago

Docklands, Exmoor, Manchester

"'Some of us think that everyone should be held to the same standards under the criminal law. All the lefties, all the people on the right'

Couldn't agree more

I keep saying it, but no politician is perfect or pure. Whatever the party. Labour just likes you to think they're purer. "

You do indeed keep saying it. It suits your tenuous narrative. Everybody is bad therefore nobody can be blamed for behaviour which is morally reprehensible. Trust me, if the tables were turned not one person who attended that alleged party would spend a second defending you.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"'Some of us think that everyone should be held to the same standards under the criminal law. All the lefties, all the people on the right'

Couldn't agree more

I keep saying it, but no politician is perfect or pure. Whatever the party. Labour just likes you to think they're purer.

Whereas I think that everyone can be bad, and everyone should be held to the same standards. Shocking. Outrageous. But Labour

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By *ominantDogMan
over a year ago

Docklands, Exmoor, Manchester

"Having the party doesn’t bother me in the slightest, what does though is the person who leaked it to the press.

As civil servants they are party to the official secrets act, therefore it’s they who should be prosecuted and Sir Kier Starmer should shut his and Angela Rayners collective gob

Fricking hypocrite "

You might be a little less bothered about the latter and rather more concerned about the former if you took a little time to educate yourself about what the Official Secrets Act covers and what it does not.

It's in the public domain old chap.

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