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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE" 
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it."Coercion and control is the past, present and future. Only most are too unenlightened to see it. | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.
Coercion and control is the past, present and future. Only most are too unenlightened to see it."It’s a given all Governments love controlling there populations that’s why there in that game , said from the start freedom easy to lose hard to get look at history | |||
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"A number of places are introducing measures to aim to cut the winter deluge in hospitals. Parts of Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Sweden are introducing passports. Masks have been shown to cut the majority of infections, so ought to be worn. " So will the naysayers still point to Sweden as the shining beacon | |||
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"A number of places are introducing measures to aim to cut the winter deluge in hospitals. Parts of Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Sweden are introducing passports. Masks have been shown to cut the majority of infections, so ought to be worn. So will the naysayers still point to Sweden as the shining beacon" Gibraltar actually | |||
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"Media should not be allowed to call this a Vaccine passport , it stirs up and us vs them Argument (as if we need more of those in (NI))it’s a Covid status check , you can either be vaccinated , got over recent infection , or tested negative via LF in past 48 hours ." People still don't get how to boil a frog  | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.
Coercion and control is the past, present and future. Only most are too unenlightened to see it."What a bunch of drama queens! Oh dear, i might have to wear a mask, have a little jab in my arm or show a bit of paper - what a loss of liberty and attack on my personal freedoms! People should count themselves lucky they live in this country. Move to China, and other crazy places around the world to truly understand what coercion and control is. Our governments are far too incompetent anyway to exert such control, even if did want to! | |||
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"Let's rephrase that a little Vaccine passports in Northern Ireland will reduce the number of hospitality staff having to quarantine due to close contact and give the fully vaccinated more confidence in eating out. It will be a massive boost to hospitality industry It will hopefully lead to people looking at actual facts about the benefits of the vaccine rather than the distorted bullshit on social media resulting in an uptake of vaccine thus reducing pressure on our poor overworked nhs staff Thats better " | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.". Totally impractible to achieve as it would involve testing everyone every day and then presumably restricting the movement of people who test positive. Some might call that coercion and control | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it " Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. | |||
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"A number of places are introducing measures to aim to cut the winter deluge in hospitals. Parts of Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Sweden are introducing passports. Masks have been shown to cut the majority of infections, so ought to be worn. So will the naysayers still point to Sweden as the shining beacon Gibraltar actually " It was sweden before but feel free to pick the one that aligns with your agenda and free to change it when its obvious it doesn't work better there. Freedom for the vaccinated will prevail as we are the vast majority and that's how it works. Looks like Germany are going to go the same way as Austria and not just exclude people from pubs | |||
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"A number of places are introducing measures to aim to cut the winter deluge in hospitals. Parts of Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Sweden are introducing passports. Masks have been shown to cut the majority of infections, so ought to be worn. So will the naysayers still point to Sweden as the shining beacon Gibraltar actually It was sweden before but feel free to pick the one that aligns with your agenda and free to change it when its obvious it doesn't work better there. Freedom for the vaccinated will prevail as we are the vast majority and that's how it works. Looks like Germany are going to go the same way as Austria and not just exclude people from pubs " Ha ha you don't understand what's going on in Gibraltar do you! Yeah Austria, Germany and maybe Italy, it's like a proper reunion. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. " why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. " I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future." judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat" . Well said. Problem with all anonymous talking shops like this, people can claim to be anything and everything. I think the fact that some people spout whatever comes into their head and then run off and hide their profile proves a good point. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat. Well said. Problem with all anonymous talking shops like this, people can claim to be anything and everything. I think the fact that some people spout whatever comes into their head and then run off and hide their profile proves a good point. " I hide my profile because I don't need you brave keyboard warriors sending abuse privately. You don't need to see my profile, you can say what you want to say here. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat" Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? " I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. " This point " However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. " Is how i know this point is wrong | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong " Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free " OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. " If the people are vaccinated then it's irrelevant where the infections occur as most of them will have a high level if resistance to dying due to Covid. In Northern Ireland we are protecting the NHS from the unvaccinated some of whom don't care about themselves or anyone else and that's obvious from the number of "special" people whom don't need to wear face coverings in Tesco yet stink of cigarette smoke. Lots of countries will do the same and more and England will too but not until it's too late as usual. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it " All the tests that are going to need done to enforce this madness, who do you think does them here in NI? Yes, that's right - Randox, the same company that is currently being investigated for fraud and serious failings in relation to Covid testing. Literally millions are being made through Covid testing and the vaccine program. These things have to be financed somehow, so stop for a second and ask yourself whose pocket all this is coming from. Yep, the tax payer, whether we want the vaccine or not. Our lives and in some cases livelihoods, are being turned upside down so that already extremely wealthy companies can get richer whilst working hand in hand with the government to enforce seriously flawed legislation. In years to come the truth will be revealed but for now we just have to wait it out. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it All the tests that are going to need done to enforce this madness, who do you think does them here in NI? Yes, that's right - Randox, the same company that is currently being investigated for fraud and serious failings in relation to Covid testing. Literally millions are being made through Covid testing and the vaccine program. These things have to be financed somehow, so stop for a second and ask yourself whose pocket all this is coming from. Yep, the tax payer, whether we want the vaccine or not. Our lives and in some cases livelihoods, are being turned upside down so that already extremely wealthy companies can get richer whilst working hand in hand with the government to enforce seriously flawed legislation. In years to come the truth will be revealed but for now we just have to wait it out." You don't buy LFT tests from Randox They are a disreputable company though | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free " . However the reality of actual life goes far deeper than this science you talk of. If you stop people “moving about” then ultimately we will all starve to death. Or does the “moving about” only apply to those that suit you, and for how long exactly ? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free . However the reality of actual life goes far deeper than this science you talk of. If you stop people “moving about” then ultimately we will all starve to death. Or does the “moving about” only apply to those that suit you, and for how long exactly ? " How many starved in last year's lockdown ? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. If the people are vaccinated then it's irrelevant where the infections occur as most of them will have a high level if resistance to dying due to Covid. In Northern Ireland we are protecting the NHS from the unvaccinated some of whom don't care about themselves or anyone else and that's obvious from the number of "special" people whom don't need to wear face coverings in Tesco yet stink of cigarette smoke. Lots of countries will do the same and more and England will too but not until it's too late as usual." I think you are overlooking the fact that some people aren't medically viable to have the vaccine - such as my sister who is immuno compromised. Her life is already miserable enough. Not to be able to do simple things like go out for a meal now and then or go to the theatre whilst adhering to things like mask wearing and social distancing is a closing down even further of her life through no fault of her own. And people should be free to make the choice whether or not to have the vaccine regardless of their medical status. Insisting that everyone has an unproven vaccine put in their bodies so that you feel safe is not reasonable. If it is so effective, why should it matter to you what unvaccinated people do? Humm? Why worry? Because it is not as effect as is claimed is why. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? " I think you need reeducating on the difference between opinion and fact mate. As for the government, you give them credit that they know what they are doing. That's the biggest conspiracy theory of the lot! Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a former Tory voter, but incompetence rages through this government, and they can't even string parliament along wit their huge majority, let alone a whole nation. Come on get in the real world. | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it."What about two rooms with 30% positive tests - vaccinated and unvaccinated? Which would you prefer then, and what is your vaccination status? I mean that argument was a bit silly, obviously you’d feel safe in a room with 100 negatively tested people. Does anyone test twice a day no matter if they have symptoms or not? Once a day? Once a week or just when they feel ill? What’s the right amount of testing? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. If the people are vaccinated then it's irrelevant where the infections occur as most of them will have a high level if resistance to dying due to Covid. In Northern Ireland we are protecting the NHS from the unvaccinated some of whom don't care about themselves or anyone else and that's obvious from the number of "special" people whom don't need to wear face coverings in Tesco yet stink of cigarette smoke. Lots of countries will do the same and more and England will too but not until it's too late as usual. I think you are overlooking the fact that some people aren't medically viable to have the vaccine - such as my sister who is immuno compromised. Her life is already miserable enough. Not to be able to do simple things like go out for a meal now and then or go to the theatre whilst adhering to things like mask wearing and social distancing is a closing down even further of her life through no fault of her own. And people should be free to make the choice whether or not to have the vaccine regardless of their medical status. Insisting that everyone has an unproven vaccine put in their bodies so that you feel safe is not reasonable. If it is so effective, why should it matter to you what unvaccinated people do? Humm? Why worry? Because it is not as effect as is claimed is why." I don't know your sisters circumstances but being immuno compromised I would have thought would be glad everyone is taking precautions to protect her. I personally know of two people moderate to severely immuno compromised who have had the vaccine so perhaps she should speak with her consultant about her options. | |||
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"In missing something here. You can go to hospitality if: * You are vaccinated. * You have a recent negative test * You have had a positive test to show yiuve had it. That covers off most bases, right. People have choices. It covers the natural immunity angle too. The only alternative I can see is everyone has to show a test .... But what is the cost of everyone testing every two days? " If this is the case what is the problem? It allows for the unvaccinated with a negative test and / or a positive for previous COVID infection and natural antibodies present?? My understanding is the above is very different to Scotland's (and others) covid passport schemes which don't allow for either of the 2 unvaccinated options? Happy to be corrected here if I've got this wrong? KJ | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.
Coercion and control is the past, present and future. Only most are too unenlightened to see it.
What a bunch of drama queens! Oh dear, i might have to wear a mask, have a little jab in my arm or show a bit of paper - what a loss of liberty and attack on my personal freedoms! People should count themselves lucky they live in this country. Move to China, and other crazy places around the world to truly understand what coercion and control is. Our governments are far too incompetent anyway to exert such control, even if did want to! "Don’t need to move to China, it’s on its way here. | |||
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"Let's rephrase that a little Vaccine passports in Northern Ireland will reduce the number of hospitality staff having to quarantine due to close contact and give the fully vaccinated more confidence in eating out. It will be a massive boost to hospitality industry It will hopefully lead to people looking at actual facts about the benefits of the vaccine rather than the distorted bullshit on social media resulting in an uptake of vaccine thus reducing pressure on our poor overworked nhs staff Thats better " | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. " 2 weeks to flatten the curve ring a bell?? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. 2 weeks to flatten the curve ring a bell?? " Yes, remember it well and it worked fine. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. If the people are vaccinated then it's irrelevant where the infections occur as most of them will have a high level if resistance to dying due to Covid. In Northern Ireland we are protecting the NHS from the unvaccinated some of whom don't care about themselves or anyone else and that's obvious from the number of "special" people whom don't need to wear face coverings in Tesco yet stink of cigarette smoke. Lots of countries will do the same and more and England will too but not until it's too late as usual." If the unvaccinated are the problem but they’re not going getting tested where are all the cases coming from? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free OK what does the evidence actually say about where deadly infections occur? Could you name the top 3-5 locations where infections that led to deaths, happened. If the people are vaccinated then it's irrelevant where the infections occur as most of them will have a high level if resistance to dying due to Covid. In Northern Ireland we are protecting the NHS from the unvaccinated some of whom don't care about themselves or anyone else and that's obvious from the number of "special" people whom don't need to wear face coverings in Tesco yet stink of cigarette smoke. Lots of countries will do the same and more and England will too but not until it's too late as usual. If the unvaccinated are the problem but they’re not going getting tested where are all the cases coming from? " Query does not compute | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I think you need reeducating on the difference between opinion and fact mate. As for the government, you give them credit that they know what they are doing. That's the biggest conspiracy theory of the lot! Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a former Tory voter, but incompetence rages through this government, and they can't even string parliament along wit their huge majority, let alone a whole nation. Come on get in the real world. " Do you deny that MPs, particularly ministers, have been earning millions through this pandemic in addition to their salary? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I understand perfectly. And they never said just a quick lockdown. We are in uncharted territory. Things are going to change. To be honest I think our "lockdown " was pathetically vague. And think much harsher lockdown would have worked better. This point However the vaccines are doing a good job but they need to be used along side regular testing. I follow the science as opposed to politics. Is how i know this point is wrong Well we shall agree to disagree. But if you dont have people moving about.. they cant spead an infectious disease... that is the science .. if you want to argue that then feel free . However the reality of actual life goes far deeper than this science you talk of. If you stop people “moving about” then ultimately we will all starve to death. Or does the “moving about” only apply to those that suit you, and for how long exactly ? How many starved in last year's lockdown ?" More food banks now than there’s ever been. More independent small businesses have gone down the drain. More suicides last year than in the past 10 years. All for a supposed virus with a 99.97% survival rate. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I think you need reeducating on the difference between opinion and fact mate. As for the government, you give them credit that they know what they are doing. That's the biggest conspiracy theory of the lot! Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a former Tory voter, but incompetence rages through this government, and they can't even string parliament along wit their huge majority, let alone a whole nation. Come on get in the real world. Do you deny that MPs, particularly ministers, have been earning millions through this pandemic in addition to their salary? " Do not get me started... I just had that rant elsewhere. Immoral SICK fucks had an themselves an orgy of backhanders corruption and profiteering from ripping off the NHS during a pandemic. | |||
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"Problem here is that the two big parties are both clueless bigots. Sinn Fein hate the British and want to follow what the Irish government does. DUP are religious nutters who want to do what the British government does and what god tells them is right. Therefore we end up with a stupid mix and match with both sides blaming the other. The only people to blame for this are the bigots who voted DUP or sinner. Will be tested here then another lock down then the rest of the UK will follow suit if there's not too much fuss about it. The Irish are already going extreme." You know the DUP were largely not in favour of it don't you? | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. why.. it's how it is. And I am extremely well educated thanks. Which is why I'm able to read lots of different reports, reviews and find my own conclusions x rather than believe what fred on favebook said. Ive also been part of the research projects on covid related studies since may 2020. I said the department of education should be abolished because the education they prescribed is trash, not that you didn't receive it. You don't understand how politics works. You take each measure at face value without considering the next steps ahead. That's why you hadn't considered the LFT option would just be dropped from covid passports in future. judgemental much. What makes you right and me wrong? Nothing wrong with my education. Or my understanding of politics. Please try to not be quite so judgemental and consider for one moment that perhaps you could be wrong.. I always look at many sides to things.. analyse and if need be change my opinion if I realise I was wrong. Insinuating people are uneducated just because they have a difference of opinion to you doesn't make you superior. Just makes you look a twat Again, I didn't say you were uneducated, I said the education you had was rubbish. So was mine. The entire country has a crap education system which is why hardly any of you understand the process that's happening. In what way could I possibly wrong, are you saying the government hasn't been stringing us along for 19 months now? Just a quick lockdown. Oh another lockdown to save Christmas. Forget Christmas, another lockdown until 15m jabs are done. Actually let's jab everyone. Twice. Now let's jab kids. Now three times. Which part of that did i imagine? I think you need reeducating on the difference between opinion and fact mate. As for the government, you give them credit that they know what they are doing. That's the biggest conspiracy theory of the lot! Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm a former Tory voter, but incompetence rages through this government, and they can't even string parliament along wit their huge majority, let alone a whole nation. Come on get in the real world. Do you deny that MPs, particularly ministers, have been earning millions through this pandemic in addition to their salary? Do not get me started... I just had that rant elsewhere. Immoral SICK fucks had an themselves an orgy of backhanders corruption and profiteering from ripping off the NHS during a pandemic. " Exactly. So they aren't incompetent, they are just immoral and there's an enormous difference. They have proven very competent at enriching themselves during crisis and still managing to get a large proportion of the population to thank them for it. | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian." | |||
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"Let's rephrase that a little Vaccine passports in Northern Ireland will reduce the number of hospitality staff having to quarantine due to close contact and give the fully vaccinated more confidence in eating out. It will be a massive boost to hospitality industry It will hopefully lead to people looking at actual facts about the benefits of the vaccine rather than the distorted bullshit on social media resulting in an uptake of vaccine thus reducing pressure on our poor overworked nhs staff Thats better " totally agree with your comment | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian." You're welcome to your opinion, fortunately it doesn't count | |||
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"Problem here is that the two big parties are both clueless bigots. Sinn Fein hate the British and want to follow what the Irish government does. DUP are religious nutters who want to do what the British government does and what god tells them is right. Therefore we end up with a stupid mix and match with both sides blaming the other. The only people to blame for this are the bigots who voted DUP or sinner. Will be tested here then another lock down then the rest of the UK will follow suit if there's not too much fuss about it. The Irish are already going extreme. You know the DUP were largely not in favour of it don't you?" Yeah. Because of money and religious ballix. Also if the other parties were against it they'd be for it. | |||
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"Problem here is that the two big parties are both clueless bigots. Sinn Fein hate the British and want to follow what the Irish government does. DUP are religious nutters who want to do what the British government does and what god tells them is right. Therefore we end up with a stupid mix and match with both sides blaming the other. The only people to blame for this are the bigots who voted DUP or sinner. Will be tested here then another lock down then the rest of the UK will follow suit if there's not too much fuss about it. The Irish are already going extreme. You know the DUP were largely not in favour of it don't you? Yeah. Because of money and religious ballix. Also if the other parties were against it they'd be for it." So you can't really blame them for this decision can you? | |||
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"This is a once in a hundred years event. It is a global plague and (still) an emergency. It is not government control. " The response to it is. | |||
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"A number of places are introducing measures to aim to cut the winter deluge in hospitals. Parts of Germany, Austria, The Netherlands and Sweden are introducing passports. Masks have been shown to cut the majority of infections, so ought to be worn. So will the naysayers still point to Sweden as the shining beacon Gibraltar actually It was sweden before but feel free to pick the one that aligns with your agenda and free to change it when its obvious it doesn't work better there. Freedom for the vaccinated will prevail as we are the vast majority and that's how it works. Looks like Germany are going to go the same way as Austria and not just exclude people from pubs " Germany has just introduced new restrictions which to some extent affects the unvaccinated, although it’s not as strict as what’s happening in Austria. | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian." I have a blood disorder that makes me immunocompromised…. What would you like me to do… stay home till further notice The one thing I am noticing more and more from the unvaccinated is that there is a whole ton of “I” and not a lot of “for the greater good”…… | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. " Explain | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian. I have a blood disorder that makes me immunocompromised…. What would you like me to do… stay home till further notice The one thing I am noticing more and more from the unvaccinated is that there is a whole ton of “I” and not a lot of “for the greater good”……" Vaccinated can still transmit ya know. The vaccine only stops the individual from getting really sick. If your that worried maybe you should stay at home and let others live their life. Do some more research. | |||
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"The bottom line is, it's my choice what goes into my body or not - no one else's. People have been banging on about women's rights in relation to their own bodies and abortion for decades now. This is my right to choose something that may or may not be detrimental to my health AND that of other people. I will exercise my freedom to choose and I won't be bullied by restrictions as inconsequential as not being able to go to the pub. Sooner or later people are going to wake up to what's happening and in case you haven't noticed quite a few in the medical profession already have. That should be raising alarm bells." Good argument. The covid passport bollox is exactly that you know. No need to even test yourself. Just scan the code and upload to the NHS website saying negative and your good to carry on ?? Bit pointless eh? | |||
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"The bottom line is, it's my choice what goes into my body or not - no one else's. People have been banging on about women's rights in relation to their own bodies and abortion for decades now. This is my right to choose something that may or may not be detrimental to my health AND that of other people. I will exercise my freedom to choose and I won't be bullied by restrictions as inconsequential as not being able to go to the pub. Sooner or later people are going to wake up to what's happening and in case you haven't noticed quite a few in the medical profession already have. That should be raising alarm bells. Good argument. The covid passport bollox is exactly that you know. No need to even test yourself. Just scan the code and upload to the NHS website saying negative and your good to carry on ?? Bit pointless eh? " You could,then like Scotland they'll ban LFT tests too Smart !! | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian. I have a blood disorder that makes me immunocompromised…. What would you like me to do… stay home till further notice The one thing I am noticing more and more from the unvaccinated is that there is a whole ton of “I” and not a lot of “for the greater good”…… Vaccinated can still transmit ya know. The vaccine only stops the individual from getting really sick. If your that worried maybe you should stay at home and let others live their life. Do some more research. " See…now that is the selfishness in people coming thru… well done you!!! If you have seen the research you would know that if you are vaccinated A) you have a lower chance of getting it in the first place, B) a lower rate of transmitting it to others, and C) a lower chance of getting it bad enough to end up in hospital…… More … again… that for the greater good argument went quickly…. Nice to see you are prepared to sacrifice others for your own means | |||
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"This is beyond pro Vax or anti vax Get it or don't, It's no concern to me what medical procedures you've taken and I'll treat you indifferently regardless But those in favour of mandate's and medical passports, and the restrictions of freedom to those without, I canno tolerate Fascism is fascism. The fact that yours is rooted in cowardice and narcissism doesn't absolve you of the guilt of being a petty authoritarian. I have a blood disorder that makes me immunocompromised…. What would you like me to do… stay home till further notice The one thing I am noticing more and more from the unvaccinated is that there is a whole ton of “I” and not a lot of “for the greater good”…… Vaccinated can still transmit ya know. The vaccine only stops the individual from getting really sick. If your that worried maybe you should stay at home and let others live their life. Do some more research. See…now that is the selfishness in people coming thru… well done you!!! If you have seen the research you would know that if you are vaccinated A) you have a lower chance of getting it in the first place, B) a lower rate of transmitting it to others, and C) a lower chance of getting it bad enough to end up in hospital…… More … again… that for the greater good argument went quickly…. Nice to see you are prepared to sacrifice others for your own means" a- lower not no chance B- lower not no chance C- lower not no chance So your point is? | |||
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"One final point regarding vaccine and/or covid passport per se. If the vaccine is so great at reducing transmission how come Gibraltar is all over the news regarding new lock downs for Christmas? Isn't it the most vaccinated country in the world (going by the media). A shining example to us all was the headline not so long ago. " Yes. I was about to say and wonder about the same thing too. | |||
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"One final point regarding vaccine and/or covid passport per se. If the vaccine is so great at reducing transmission how come Gibraltar is all over the news regarding new lock downs for Christmas? Isn't it the most vaccinated country in the world (going by the media). A shining example to us all was the headline not so long ago. Yes. I was about to say and wonder about the same thing too." My thoughts are, people think the vaccine is a magic cure and then drop their guard on all the other things that they really should be doing like wear a mask, wash hands, socially distance etc etc If that's what it is, then really it's the vaccinated that are the problem. | |||
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"One final point regarding vaccine and/or covid passport per se. If the vaccine is so great at reducing transmission how come Gibraltar is all over the news regarding new lock downs for Christmas? Isn't it the most vaccinated country in the world (going by the media). A shining example to us all was the headline not so long ago. Yes. I was about to say and wonder about the same thing too. My thoughts are, people think the vaccine is a magic cure and then drop their guard on all the other things that they really should be doing like wear a mask, wash hands, socially distance etc etc If that's what it is, then really it's the vaccinated that are the problem. " Exactly. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. Explain " Basically, as long as the state controls education then it's never going to educate the population to critically analyse the state. Hence we get a bunch of politicians ruling the country for their own benefit, regardless of which party is elected. If you go further into how and why compulsory education was established, it only ever excited the governments because it was a way to imprint a bunch of "correct opinions" that most people would never dare question. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. Explain Basically, as long as the state controls education then it's never going to educate the population to critically analyse the state. Hence we get a bunch of politicians ruling the country for their own benefit, regardless of which party is elected. If you go further into how and why compulsory education was established, it only ever excited the governments because it was a way to imprint a bunch of "correct opinions" that most people would never dare question." Fair enough. Good point and I totally agree. Read something someone said recently, if I remember correctly it was: educate enough to keep voting but not enough to question. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. Explain Basically, as long as the state controls education then it's never going to educate the population to critically analyse the state. Hence we get a bunch of politicians ruling the country for their own benefit, regardless of which party is elected. If you go further into how and why compulsory education was established, it only ever excited the governments because it was a way to imprint a bunch of "correct opinions" that most people would never dare question. Fair enough. Good point and I totally agree. Read something someone said recently, if I remember correctly it was: educate enough to keep voting but not enough to question. " Basically we should all be able to agree that we want a more prosperous country. Now we can have different ideas about how to achieve that and voting is as good a way to decide as any. The problem is that education does not cover the topic of what even makes a country prosperous. I would go as far as to say that it avoids it. At the same time we were encouraged to have vigorous debates about absolutely trivial topics or false dichotomies. | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.
Coercion and control is the past, present and future. Only most are too unenlightened to see it. It’s a given all Governments love controlling there populations that’s why there in that game , said from the start freedom easy to lose hard to get look at history "Our freedoms went years ago, when they took the full bore pistols and rifles away from us. | |||
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"Another kick in the teeth for the hospitality industry and more importantly for personal freedoms then. This new legislation is nothing more than a blatant effort at coercion and control, given that we are approaching the festive period. The vaccines do not prevent the transmission of Covid as demonstrated by the latest Lancet infectious disease research. If anything, they engender a sense of complacency and make active Covid cases harder to detect due to reduced symptoms, basically enabling Covid to infect by stealth. We are led to believe from the information filtering down from the upper echelons, that it is the unvaccinated that are the chief danger when it comes to infection - however studies are undermining that 'logic'. It stands to reason, that if you've no symptoms and you're free to go anywhere due to having your passport and you've no incentive to get tested, you are basically a ticking time bomb and a human petri dish for the creation of other Covid variants that may or may not be susceptible to current counter measures. #vaccine #VaccinePassport #northernireland #newlegistlation #Stormont #COVID19 #antivax #personalfreedom #health #research #RobinSwann #paulgivan #colinneil #hospitalityindustry https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59327235?fbclid=IwAR0AHaHku5tpcW047OhFZwbguLATukDoiMI2yfu9AfgJDIU61GzPAovfAuE
There is definitely value in the argument re:complacency of the vaccinated.
There are more reports emerging regarding the benefit of natural immunity, especially concerning variants.
I’d rather be in a room with 100 negatively tested unvaccinated individuals than 100 untested vaccinated people any day!
Coercion and control is the future, and lots support it.. Totally impractible to achieve as it would involve testing everyone every day and then presumably restricting the movement of people who test positive. Some might call that coercion and control"They should have their movements restricted if positive, thats the point. | |||
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"Why are people so upset... you don't need the vaccine to have these passports, it shows a recent negative test... or recent recovered infection... as well as a recent vaccine if you have had it Statements like this are why I believe the department of education should be abolished. Explain Basically, as long as the state controls education then it's never going to educate the population to critically analyse the state. Hence we get a bunch of politicians ruling the country for their own benefit, regardless of which party is elected. If you go further into how and why compulsory education was established, it only ever excited the governments because it was a way to imprint a bunch of "correct opinions" that most people would never dare question." You have to laugh as such fanciful notions. The whole teaching profession is in on this cunning plan for decades I suppose ? | |||
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