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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

mandatory deadline for first jab was september 16th but could not sack anyone until after the November 11 cut off for those who have not had there 2nd jab ..

so question is do you know of many that have not had it done therefore leaving care / or work in care envoiroment ??

its not a aurgument of right or wrong just do you know anyone who made the choice to not be vaxx

nhs next .....

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS"

in the southwest the vaccine take up by those working in the care enviroment is hight so it is different around the country ...

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

I know of one person who has worked as a care worker for over 25yrs, and has had to leave her job! She’s now found a job looking after an elderly gentleman in his home, paid for by the family who are happy to have her even though she’s not vaccinated !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I know of several in the care home I work in alone

It isn't being made mandatory in Wales though, thankfully, as we would be left with an unsafe level of staff were those unvaccinated to be terminated, as we cannot even fill existing vacancies, especially since the pandemic

It wasn't exactly the most inviting of industries before Covid, shit terms, shit pay etc

Now it is even more of a struggle to fill posts than ever

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By *orthwestloverMan
over a year ago

chester

I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay


"I know of one person who has worked as a care worker for over 25yrs, and has had to leave her job! She’s now found a job looking after an elderly gentleman in his home, paid for by the family who are happy to have her even though she’s not vaccinated ! "
That’s good she found another job , suspect when there is an accute shortage of care workers they will be in high demand

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I think it's horrific to force someone out of their job. In 2020 we were told to clap for carers in 2021 we make them unemployed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No a few mate's wife's that are leaving nhs and a care home.one is double vaxed but leaving because of the work load that's now being put on them I don't blame anyone for leaving such a poor paid job definitely better paid jobs with more appreciation

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay


"I think it's horrific to force someone out of their job. In 2020 we were told to clap for carers in 2021 we make them unemployed."
Totally agree Big Brother had finally arrived in 2020 , it’s not like being vaccinated stops transmission because it does not

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I know of one person who has worked as a care worker for over 25yrs, and has had to leave her job! She’s now found a job looking after an elderly gentleman in his home, paid for by the family who are happy to have her even though she’s not vaccinated ! "

im not sure if thats even legal ? as shes still getting paid to do a care job ..i could be totally wrong mind you .... mmmm thats interesting

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

And who will suffer? The patients. It’s awful. A sensible testing regime would be fine. The vaccine doesn’t even prevent transmission. Yes, it reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime (by keeping people away from work when they have covid).

From “clap for carers” to “sack for carers” in 18 months. Gross.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

keep on topic guys its not about right or wrong ...just how many have decided no more because of the vaxx just to build a picture of what the media is saying is right ...we are not seeing this none uptake here in the southwest as bad as media says ....

we all know care work is a job that many dont want not all carework is mimum wage and alway been hard to attract hence going abroad for staff often ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand the need to protect patients. But as vaccinated people can still catch and pass on covid it seems ridiculous and pointless that vaccines are now mandatory for care staff.

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By *r naughty1Man
over a year ago

Bexley


"And who will suffer? The patients. It’s awful. A sensible testing regime would be fine. The vaccine doesn’t even prevent transmission. Yes, it reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime (by keeping people away from work when they have covid).

Agree 100%

From “clap for carers” to “sack for carers” in 18 months. Gross."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know of one person who has worked as a care worker for over 25yrs, and has had to leave her job! She’s now found a job looking after an elderly gentleman in his home, paid for by the family who are happy to have her even though she’s not vaccinated !

im not sure if thats even legal ? as shes still getting paid to do a care job ..i could be totally wrong mind you .... mmmm thats interesting"

I'd imagine as she is being paid privately by the gentlemans family then it is entirely up up to them who they employ regardless of vaccination status

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"mandatory deadline for first jab was september 16th but could not sack anyone until after the November 11 cut off for those who have not had there 2nd jab ..

so question is do you know of many that have not had it done therefore leaving care / or work in care envoiroment ??

its not a aurgument of right or wrong just do you know anyone who made the choice to not be vaxx

nhs next .....

"

Do I know of many? No. There aren't many unvaccinated people in general.

Do I know of some? Yes.

Reason: they have natural immunity and are generally resentful of a two tier society that isn't even based on actual immunity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice "
good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Is Hep jab compulsory?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is Hep jab compulsory?"

Not in care homes in Wales no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is Hep jab compulsory?"

As far as I know it is not compulsory or mandated however in several job roles and not just nhs staff it is a requirement of employment. Iv worked as a support worker and it was in my contract that I needed it to be offended the role, this was in 2015 so been a thing for years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal"

It's not unfair dismissal because contracts can be changed with reasonable notice and people were given reasonable notice. It's the same with most contracts as especially in a public health situation which this is.

People tried to take this to court to stop it going through but failed.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal

It's not unfair dismissal because contracts can be changed with reasonable notice and people were given reasonable notice. It's the same with most contracts as especially in a public health situation which this is.

People tried to take this to court to stop it going through but failed. "

Public health issue: put the majority and the vulnerable above the individual. Am I right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal

It's not unfair dismissal because contracts can be changed with reasonable notice and people were given reasonable notice. It's the same with most contracts as especially in a public health situation which this is.

People tried to take this to court to stop it going through but failed.

Public health issue: put the majority and the vulnerable above the individual. Am I right?"

It's already been challenged in law and found completely lawful.

But most laws are about the majority and protecting the vulnerable above the individual. I find interesting the nobody has a problem that somebody will be sacked if they fail or refuse to provide a DBS That is also to protect the majority and the vulnerable above the individual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal

It's not unfair dismissal because contracts can be changed with reasonable notice and people were given reasonable notice. It's the same with most contracts as especially in a public health situation which this is.

People tried to take this to court to stop it going through but failed.

Public health issue: put the majority and the vulnerable above the individual. Am I right?"

No, you'd be talking about immunity if that was the case

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I know one lady who works in a care home. She is leaving on the 11th as she won’t get vaccinated.

She can’t give a reason why she won’t but says it’s her choice good for her but if she has a contract over 3yrs and noting in it saying manditory jabs surly thats unfair dismissal i was a union rep in care home people need to use the law to claim unfair dismissal"

its not unfair dismissal its now the law your either vaxx or not

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By *orsetCouple777Couple
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"I know of one person who has worked as a care worker for over 25yrs, and has had to leave her job! She’s now found a job looking after an elderly gentleman in his home, paid for by the family who are happy to have her even though she’s not vaccinated !

im not sure if thats even legal ? as shes still getting paid to do a care job ..i could be totally wrong mind you .... mmmm thats interesting"

It's perfectly legal. The law change required all staff that enter CQC registered homes to be double jabbed. Care in individual private properties are not affected

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And who will suffer? The patients. It’s awful. A sensible testing regime would be fine. The vaccine doesn’t even prevent transmission. Yes, it reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime (by keeping people away from work when they have covid).

From “clap for carers” to “sack for carers” in 18 months. Gross."
I don't understand why someone would pick this as a job crap pay crap hours now been crapped on told daughter in law not to go back find a better payed job loads out there.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Everyone I know on the care sector has been at least double vaccinated, some having had boosters too. It's a wise move, when having seen the carnage of human life lost and damaged by government managed negligence in 2020 and how little they value citizens and care staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Two people I know of left care work due to this mandate. One of which said they would have been more likely to have it if it wasn't mandated..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"And who will suffer? The patients. It’s awful. A sensible testing regime would be fine. The vaccine doesn’t even prevent transmission. Yes, it reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime (by keeping people away from work when they have covid).

From “clap for carers” to “sack for carers” in 18 months. Gross.I don't understand why someone would pick this as a job crap pay crap hours now been crapped on told daughter in law not to go back find a better payed job loads out there."

Some people are naturally blessed with loving care and talents as well as desire to look after others. That society has underappreciated and valued such people is sickening

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"And who will suffer? The patients. It’s awful. A sensible testing regime would be fine. The vaccine doesn’t even prevent transmission. Yes, it reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime (by keeping people away from work when they have covid).

From “clap for carers” to “sack for carers” in 18 months. Gross."

And I think therein lies the crux of this...

It is very obvious (just look at loads of people now meeting on Fab) that the double vaxxed are complacent and disregarding most/all other risk mitigations. Many are walking around and socialising like they are indestructible and zero risk to others. Clearly they are not!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

End of the day if you don't like it and leave there's always someone else to fill your shoes

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"End of the day if you don't like it and leave there's always someone else to fill your shoes "

No there isn’t. There’s already a shortage of staff in the care sector and this is making it way worse.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"End of the day if you don't like it and leave there's always someone else to fill your shoes

No there isn’t. There’s already a shortage of staff in the care sector and this is making it way worse."

There's a shortage of truck drivers ect ..but plenty of people out there

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

theres alway been a shortage of staff in carehomes has been for years hence going abroad to recruit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I work for privet care company and South Wales is really struggling for support workers. Not many like the hours. And shift patterns. Tbh pay could be better but we have the up lift of the sleep nights so that helps

But with regards to the original question, I knew it was coming in but no dead line has been handed down on our company . Our head office is in England but lot of our homes are in wales so not sure if that makes a difference but soon shall see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely disgraceful that people are losing their jobs.

We have a close relative who works in a care home. They have recently had an outbreak of Covid.

7 residents and 4 workers.

All double vacinnated.

5 of those residents have died.

There are thousands of people who are asymptomatic and don't even know they have or have had the virus.

Vacinnated or not, if you have Covid, with or without symptoms, you still carry the same viral load and can therefore pass it on.

People should NOT be losing their jobs, most of which have dedicated their lives to, just because they choose not to have the vacinne.

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Colne


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS"

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"End of the day if you don't like it and leave there's always someone else to fill your shoes

No there isn’t. There’s already a shortage of staff in the care sector and this is making it way worse.

There's a shortage of truck drivers ect ..but plenty of people out there"

No there’s not plenty of people out there. There are thousands of unfilled posts getting no applicants.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt."
But having the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid so does not stop you passing it on , so how are any safer ?

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt."

The vaccine does not prevent transmission. It reduces it, but so does a sensible testing regime.

You may prefer vaccinated care workers to be caring for the elderly. But unvaccinated care workers who can test, is infinitely better than no care worker at all.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt. But having the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid so does not stop you passing it on , so how are any safer ? "

Correct. It may help a bit, but so does sensible testing. This is madness sacking people (or forcing them to resign). The patients will suffer.

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By *orty-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Leyland

Clap for carers now replaced with sack the carers.

Makes my Piss boil.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt."

I'd prefer carers with the strongest immunity so that would be those that have acquired it naturally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if they were that caring as carers, then they would have the vaccine without question just like they have taken other vaccines to enable them to have the job, my father was in a care home for many years, and i got to know most of the carers well, to most it was a vocation, and all ive spoken to have had the vaccine, some just did it because it was a job, nothing more, and most of those probably were unemployable elsewhere, so not much loss.

However there arent enough of those lovely dedicated people to go around it would seem, that is the problem, better pay and hours would help, but that would maybe just attract those that see it as just a job again, not sure what the answer is tbh

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay


"if they were that caring as carers, then they would have the vaccine without question just like they have taken other vaccines to enable them to have the job, my father was in a care home for many years, and i got to know most of the carers well, to most it was a vocation, and all ive spoken to have had the vaccine, some just did it because it was a job, nothing more, and most of those probably were unemployable elsewhere, so not much loss.

However there arent enough of those lovely dedicated people to go around it would seem, that is the problem, better pay and hours would help, but that would maybe just attract those that see it as just a job again, not sure what the answer is tbh"
But the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid nor passing it on

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By *a LunaWoman
over a year ago

Wales

A lot of medically vulnerable service users will not accept carers who have not had all their jabs, despite them being PPE’d up to the gills. It is their home and of course their right to refuse. It’s not always about the carer refusing the jab.

A lot of carers are young women who might want to start a family at some point and have concerns about taking the jab, some are just wary. It’s not always a cut and dry issue.

However, with staff shortages across all care services (domiciliary, care homes, etc) we are, I’d say, reaching crisis point.

A few advertising campaigns on the telly just won’t cut it.

Nobody has ever gone into care because it pays well. It has always been a job for those who like to “care”, who enjoy being out and about in the Community (domiciliary wise anyway) and who can work hours that (mostly) suit them.

They have brought in other changes here in Wales that mean you HAVE to be registered (for which you need an NVQ ) and you have to pay your registration fees. So basically you’re paying to be a carer. But you’re not paid an awesome wage for being a carer so folk resent that (which is fair enough!). This faff (because it is a faff let’s be honest) puts off those who maybe didn’t do so well in School who struggle with learning, it puts off those who don’t really see care as a long term career but it’s alright for a year or two, the younger carers who have finished College etc and had a guts full of studying, the more mature who may be anti learning at this stage and who don’t know the arse end of a pc, single parents who struggle to find the time to bath in peace, never mind crack on with Assignments. It all adds up to being a massive hurdle in getting staff in.

This is having a knock on effect to care packages having to be handed back which also has a knock on effect to bed blocking in Hospitals.

It’s a mess. And until Local Government gets off it’s arse and is more pro active, the Care Sector is going to be in the shit.

People can look from the outside and say “oh you just need to pay more money”. It’s really, really, not that simple. It would help, but there is so much more that needs to change, the Government and Council’s listening to the feedback from all Care Providers for a start.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if they were that caring as carers, then they would have the vaccine without question just like they have taken other vaccines to enable them to have the job, my father was in a care home for many years, and i got to know most of the carers well, to most it was a vocation, and all ive spoken to have had the vaccine, some just did it because it was a job, nothing more, and most of those probably were unemployable elsewhere, so not much loss.

However there arent enough of those lovely dedicated people to go around it would seem, that is the problem, better pay and hours would help, but that would maybe just attract those that see it as just a job again, not sure what the answer is tbh But the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid nor passing it on "

no but it does reduce the risks or severity of the ilness, nobody can deny that, so your point is?

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Herne Bay


"if they were that caring as carers, then they would have the vaccine without question just like they have taken other vaccines to enable them to have the job, my father was in a care home for many years, and i got to know most of the carers well, to most it was a vocation, and all ive spoken to have had the vaccine, some just did it because it was a job, nothing more, and most of those probably were unemployable elsewhere, so not much loss.

However there arent enough of those lovely dedicated people to go around it would seem, that is the problem, better pay and hours would help, but that would maybe just attract those that see it as just a job again, not sure what the answer is tbh But the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid nor passing it on

no but it does reduce the risks or severity of the ilness, nobody can deny that, so your point is?"
It does stop hopefully getting bad but how does help if the carers have the vaccine they can catch Covid they can pass it on , so what help is it ? Explain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"if they were that caring as carers, then they would have the vaccine without question just like they have taken other vaccines to enable them to have the job, my father was in a care home for many years, and i got to know most of the carers well, to most it was a vocation, and all ive spoken to have had the vaccine, some just did it because it was a job, nothing more, and most of those probably were unemployable elsewhere, so not much loss.

However there arent enough of those lovely dedicated people to go around it would seem, that is the problem, better pay and hours would help, but that would maybe just attract those that see it as just a job again, not sure what the answer is tbh But the vaccine does not stop you getting Covid nor passing it on

no but it does reduce the risks or severity of the ilness, nobody can deny that, so your point is?It does stop hopefully getting bad but how does help if the carers have the vaccine they can catch Covid they can pass it on , so what help is it ? Explain "

if carers and patiants are all vacinated then its got to help surely?

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By *ugehandsMan
over a year ago

Fife/ Newcastle

I find it astonishing that the care workers and nurses who worked right through the past 18 months prioritising the people who needed them over family and friends. These are the same people who have worked without vaccination because non were available. The same people the government now choose to disregard for thier personal decisions and beliefs.

It's a national disgrace to sack people who have been the backbone of social and NHS care.

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Care homes losing staff, maybe it's a good thing, maybe it's time those families who place their parents in care started looking after them at home, you know like we did back in the day when communities did that..

Adam

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt.

I'd prefer carers with the strongest immunity so that would be those that have acquired it naturally. "

The strongest immunity is likely to be those who are fully vaccinated, including some who may have had an infection. There's no magical different immunity acquired after Covid infection. Sadly, some who get infected also acquire long term health problems. The safer option is for those who can, to get fully vaccinated, which can include after having infection, as this will build robust immunity. Boosters will strengthen this, after some waning of its strength may have happened.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Its a different situation for care staff ,they have done a great job all through the pandemic looking after very vulnerable people ,i think the government is trying to blame care sector for the covid deaths when infact it was the nhs who spread it by sending patients to homes with out testing them to clear beds ,,when mrsa was in hospitals we had to test patients on entrance to ward and before leaving. And results on discharge letter ,care staff have had no thanks from government or pay rise ,if the staff can be tested every day before entering homes then why should they have vaccine its all about freedom of choice, ...

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Speaking as someone who is pro vaccine. Unfortunately it now seems clear that vaccinated people can still transmit Covid more widely that we might have hoped. Given this I feel we really need to see clear evidence that unvaccinated care workers pose a significantly greater risk to their patients to justify mandatory vaccination and the resulting loss of care workers. Covid will continue to circulate and it will find its way into care homes even if all care staff were to do the right thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its a different situation for care staff ,they have done a great job all through the pandemic looking after very vulnerable people ,i think the government is trying to blame care sector for the covid deaths when infact it was the nhs who spread it by sending patients to homes with out testing them to clear beds ,,when mrsa was in hospitals we had to test patients on entrance to ward and before leaving. And results on discharge letter ,care staff have had no thanks from government or pay rise ,if the staff can be tested every day before entering homes then why should they have vaccine its all about freedom of choice, ..."

Whilst it's true that the NHS discharged into care homes it's a fact that almost all care homes these days are private business and not one of these was MADE to accept residents without being tested or known positive.

I personally know of care homes that deliberately refused to take anyone during the early days, often receiving upwards of twenty requests daily.

Any care provider taking residents with either an unknown status, or known to be positive were, imo, negligent to the extreme.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Slough


"Care homes have seen a massive exodus of staff here in Notts because the vaccine has been mandated and I suspect this is the same nationally. It's going to be a tough winter for social care as well as the NHS

Personally if mass exodus as mentioned not all will be anti vaxxers begs the question who would you rather have caring for your elderly and poorly parent someone who got vaccines to help themselves and in turn help those in their care.

Or someone without vaccines my view is vaccinated carers without a doubt.

I'd prefer carers with the strongest immunity so that would be those that have acquired it naturally.

The strongest immunity is likely to be those who are fully vaccinated, including some who may have had an infection. There's no magical different immunity acquired after Covid infection. Sadly, some who get infected also acquire long term health problems. The safer option is for those who can, to get fully vaccinated, which can include after having infection, as this will build robust immunity. Boosters will strengthen this, after some waning of its strength may have happened. "

Pure fantasy and misinformation. But you're always on here sprouting the party line so I'm not going to convince you of anything.

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By *D of funCouple
over a year ago

Northampton

Think it's up to the person and their own choices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's nut up or shut up. (Get out)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And that stupid woman all over the media crying about leaving her job, if it ment that much to you then have the vaccine, she worked in a care home ffs looking after some of the most vunrable people in the country, have no sympathy for her, she lost her job by her own doing

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