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"I have a friend that was furloughed from Transport For London. 100% wage for nearly a year. Saved thousands on not having to buy a season ticket, or expensive food and drink! " Every person I know that was furloughed was in the private sector. Most were in businesses that couldn't operate at times like bars and restaurants. Interestingly a company I worked for furloughed some staff temporarily when brexit hit business nothing to do with covid. | |||
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"As with all systems designed to help it was abused by many. Companies were caught claiming furlough payments for non existent employees. Also many people who received payments were doing jobs on the side and getting more money than when they were working." Working in a different sector to the one you were furloughed from was permitted and to a certain extent encouraged. We have a young lad we furloughed and we wanted him to work elsewhere if he could (which he did) so that at least he was getting some training in something as we couldn’t train him while furloughed. I’m pleased about that as it doesn’t look like we will be able to take him back. | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" Here is ALL the information from the "horses mouth" https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/coronavirus-job-retention-scheme-statistics-december-2020/coronavirus-job-retention-scheme-statistics-december-2020#employments-on-furlough-over-time-by-industry It appears as though retail and Motor-Repair are the biggest sectors Cal | |||
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"As with all systems designed to help it was abused by many. Companies were caught claiming furlough payments for non existent employees. Also many people who received payments were doing jobs on the side and getting more money than when they were working. Working in a different sector to the one you were furloughed from was permitted and to a certain extent encouraged. We have a young lad we furloughed and we wanted him to work elsewhere if he could (which he did) so that at least he was getting some training in something as we couldn’t train him while furloughed. I’m pleased about that as it doesn’t look like we will be able to take him back. " So he lost his job anyway? | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" I not only recieved Furlough payments, but my company made it up to my full salary and paid it through normal wages so I was very lucky and didn't lose a penny. I realise that this is an exception and I wish it was the case for everyone. | |||
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"As with all systems designed to help it was abused by many. Companies were caught claiming furlough payments for non existent employees. Also many people who received payments were doing jobs on the side and getting more money than when they were working. Working in a different sector to the one you were furloughed from was permitted and to a certain extent encouraged. We have a young lad we furloughed and we wanted him to work elsewhere if he could (which he did) so that at least he was getting some training in something as we couldn’t train him while furloughed. I’m pleased about that as it doesn’t look like we will be able to take him back. " You were allowed to work in any sector, including the one you had been furloughed from. Also, training was permitted under furlough rules. | |||
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"I don't know any public sector workers that were furloughed. All private sector. " Same here. | |||
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"Not a penny. Worked throughout." Same for me, I was working 50 to 60 hours most weeks, | |||
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"As with all systems designed to help it was abused by many. Companies were caught claiming furlough payments for non existent employees. Also many people who received payments were doing jobs on the side and getting more money than when they were working." You were legally allowed to work elsewhere whilst claiming furlough, just not for the same employer. | |||
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"I furloughed my staff for a couple of months last year. I carried on working and gradually brought them back into work as we opened up more. " Can I ask if it was a simple process because I've seen people say it was fairly easy and others say it was a nightmare to furlough their staff. Just be interested to see what your personal experience of putting people on furlough was. | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x" Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical. | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical." As far as I’m aware, furlough wasn’t optional for NHS staff in any role, even if it was their preference x | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical. As far as I’m aware, furlough wasn’t optional for NHS staff in any role, even if it was their preference x" Thank you. I know someone that was furloughed that worked in a hospital but they weren't employed by the NHS so I was just curious. | |||
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"I furloughed my staff for a couple of months last year. I carried on working and gradually brought them back into work as we opened up more. Can I ask if it was a simple process because I've seen people say it was fairly easy and others say it was a nightmare to furlough their staff. Just be interested to see what your personal experience of putting people on furlough was." The first time I did it, it was very complicated and time consuming. I did ask the accountants if they would do it but they wanted £300 a month. It was understanding the questions and what answers to give was the hardest part especially concerning the hours that staff had worked compared to what they normally work. As time went on it became easier and I could do it in about 20 minutes. The first time took me half a day. It definitely helped my business and meant I could keep them employed. | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" everyone I know who is self employed all recieved payments I got paid and my company recieved payments | |||
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"All the public sector workers I know continued working, though the normally office based worked from home. Only furloughed people I know were in private sector. Also know plenty of small Ltd Co Directors who were able to furlough their staff but didn’t get a penny of help themselves. Some ended up bankrupt, had to close their companies as a result and their staff lost their jobs anyway." Furlough for company directors was only brought in at a later date, not at the beginning so as you say many lost out. It certainly hasn't been a fair system but then life isn't fair I suppose. Such a shame for those people who have lost their livelihood. | |||
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"Nope. Had to work from home throughout, whilst my furloughed friends, watched films, played games, got d*unk and lived of takeaways. Still working from home and need a bloody break." You sound really bitter, like you think someone owed you something. For the record while eventually I quite enjoyed the time off, I was on reduced wages and felt second rate against those colleagues that weren't furloughed and had no idea if I'd have a job to go back to. Yeah. It was A bed of fucking roses. | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" Public sector workers being furloughed? The directive from gov was that as theor budgets were set there was no need to furlough because it was se difference. The vast majority of furloughed workers were private sector | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" My team were furloughed I worked through They have now been allocated to other departments I still work on my own ‘even though we’re back to normal’ | |||
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"Nope. Had to work from home throughout, whilst my furloughed friends, watched films, played games, got d*unk and lived of takeaways. Still working from home and need a bloody break. You sound really bitter, like you think someone owed you something. For the record while eventually I quite enjoyed the time off, I was on reduced wages and felt second rate against those colleagues that weren't furloughed and had no idea if I'd have a job to go back to. Yeah. It was A bed of fucking roses. " Furlough was a godsend to many. Never ever any stigma attached to those taking it but the main gripe is for those that flaunted it in front of those that had to work. | |||
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"Nope. Had to work from home throughout, whilst my furloughed friends, watched films, played games, got d*unk and lived of takeaways. Still working from home and need a bloody break. You sound really bitter, like you think someone owed you something. For the record while eventually I quite enjoyed the time off, I was on reduced wages and felt second rate against those colleagues that weren't furloughed and had no idea if I'd have a job to go back to. Yeah. It was A bed of fucking roses. " No, not bitter, that probably just reads badly in the post. My mates absolutely loved being furloughed, had a great time and treated it like a paid holiday (I'm not saying everyone did). If you ask them, they'd love to back to it. Personally, I'm very glad I wasn't, as I'd have gone crazy not having something to focus on and I'm very happy to have a job to continue with. But 2 years (or whatever) of working from home, in the room I sleep in and without seeing work colleagues... I need a break. | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could everyone I know who is self employed all recieved payments I got paid and my company recieved payments " I'm self employed and never received a penny. Limited Company director, meant I could claim on my salary but not dividends. Which was a pittance that I wouldn't of covered half my outlay and if I did, I couldn't do any work for the company and all staff would of then been laid off. For some reason our industry was deemed critical, it wasn't bar maybe 1% but we all had to work on through it, so we worked the same hours on site as we normally would. All our staff had same problems in claiming, are self employed and none got any payments and worked though aswell. | |||
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"I think furlough was aimed to help the private sector with the government paying 80% of wages with the employer topping up the 20% while workers stayed at home. Public sector workers are already paid by taxes so there would be no benefit in being furloughed. " This is what I thought too. Public sector are paid through annually assigned budgets, so effectively the government have already paid us for the year when that budget is allocated. Personally, I work as "The IT Guy" in a school. I ended up busier than normal,due to having to keep internal systems running and also supporting users at home (staff and students), plus setting up laptops for kids with no computer at home, create "zoom rooms", implementation of a full MS-Teams setup that we hadn't previously used. On top of that, I was effectively relief caretaker and receptionist. Cal Cal | |||
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"ok maybe furlough was the wrong word, i mean being paid for not being at work, earlyer today i walked past out county council office, huge building, all the lights blazing, but not a soul to be seen, pleased my taxes are going to good use, this was around 3 oclock in the afternoon" Most are working from home, it doesn't mean they're not working. Many would much rather be in the office. Cal | |||
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"ok maybe furlough was the wrong word, i mean being paid for not being at work, earlyer today i walked past out county council office, huge building, all the lights blazing, but not a soul to be seen, pleased my taxes are going to good use, this was around 3 oclock in the afternoon Most are working from home, it doesn't mean they're not working. Many would much rather be in the office. Cal" so why am i paying for a huge building with all the lights on 24/7 then, if its not needed then sell it and spend the money elsware? | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" Daughter was furloughed and never had more money no travel cost not buying lunch, coffee, drinks after work etc. She is only just back to work in the London Theaters | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical. As far as I’m aware, furlough wasn’t optional for NHS staff in any role, even if it was their preference x" I know a junior A&E doctor who was shielding and ended up furloughed. Was really hard on her not being able to help. | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical. As far as I’m aware, furlough wasn’t optional for NHS staff in any role, even if it was their preference x I know a junior A&E doctor who was shielding and ended up furloughed. Was really hard on her not being able to help. " I can imagine. When your calling is to care and you can't do it, it goes against everything you believe in | |||
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"I don't know any public sector workers that were furloughed. All private sector. " This And I received nothing. Worked all way through. My taxes paid for it though. Still, I’m alive and have a job, so it’s all gravy. | |||
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"how many of you actualy recieved furlough payments, had an interesting discution with a friend the other day who said that nearly 70% of those recieving payments were public sector workers, as most private sector workers either couldnt claim , or couldnt afford to, be interested to know if you did and who do you work for, almost everyone i know is self employed and most of them were not entitled to claim, and carried on working, and those ive asked said they wouldnt have if they could" It seems from the responses on here that your friend was ill informed. | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical." Who do you think sends out the appointments, deals with patient records, discharge letters, organises clinics, dialysis appointments, etc? Non clinical staff are essential in the running of the wards. | |||
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"Nhs worker so wasn’t furloughed and wasn’t able to be anyway. Family business furloughed people and it was a nightmare, gave up in the end and paid the accountant to do it all! x Out of interest do you know if any nhs staff were furloughed? For example non clinical." Additionally, staff from other areas such as dental nurses, theatre staff, psychiatric nurses, etc were put on to covid wards. | |||
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"All the public sector workers I know continued working, though the normally office based worked from home. Only furloughed people I know were in private sector. Also know plenty of small Ltd Co Directors who were able to furlough their staff but didn’t get a penny of help themselves. Some ended up bankrupt, had to close their companies as a result and their staff lost their jobs anyway. Furlough for company directors was only brought in at a later date, not at the beginning so as you say many lost out. It certainly hasn't been a fair system but then life isn't fair I suppose. Such a shame for those people who have lost their livelihood." Thats not entirely true tho. Company directors were always included in the furlough payments had they been paid though paye. They were only discounted if they had been paid by other methods (which they would be doing to reduce their tax burdens, so cant then expect the tax man to bail them out when they dont wabt to pay it in the first place) | |||
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"ok maybe furlough was the wrong word, i mean being paid for not being at work, earlyer today i walked past out county council office, huge building, all the lights blazing, but not a soul to be seen, pleased my taxes are going to good use, this was around 3 oclock in the afternoon Most are working from home, it doesn't mean they're not working. Many would much rather be in the office. Cal so why am i paying for a huge building with all the lights on 24/7 then, if its not needed then sell it and spend the money elsware?" Please do shut the offices and let us work from home all the time. Dont complain when locals shops/town centres close as no one out buying lunches or or shopping on their lunch. I save so much money when my city centre office closed and was moved to an office 15 mins walk from the centre. Saved even more when i started to work from home. Someone i know in the private sector worked though ( as they were the one furloughing everyone else) and were pretty pissed when the rest came back and put in leave which they acrued on the 8 months they were furloughed. They had even paid 100% for the first few months of furlough. | |||
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