FabSwingers.com forum: Masks - How long is reasonable?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't mind them at all. I haven't been ill since wearing them in public so I think I'll keep doing it indefinitely.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

As long as I feel it's necessary which I'm hoping will just be this winter. I wear one for some of my job and when shopping etc. Saved a fortune on lipstick lol

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By *ockman and ThrobbinCouple
over a year ago

Ilford

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

B probably

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By *r A.Man
over a year ago

Hull

As long as needed not just to protect myself, but others aswell. Plus I wear them for work anyways so not much different really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have no objection to wearing them indefinitely. I'd rather wear it to keep myself and others safe x

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By *izzy.Woman
over a year ago

Stoke area

Realistically I'd say a year or two, but if the situation remains serious, with high levels of hospitalisation and numbers of deaths not dropping, then I'd continue beyond that.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

For as long as there is a serious public health risk where mask wearing is part of a strategy that can help protect society. And if it becomes expected social conduct in particular settings, then indefinitely.

At one time it was acceptable to spit in public, now it is not, in England at least. I fail to hear any big outcry about this being an unnatural restriction on life. Rather it is regarded as just being sensible hygienic behaviour.

Other things people used to do, not so much now, and there is no protest marches about civil liberties:

- Pissing and shitting on the corner of the street

- Letting flies crawl all over unrefrigerated meat on sale

- Having a shit, wiping arse with hand, preparing food without washing

- Going years without bathing

- Walking around naked

Oh and the argument: "We never used to bother about masks when there was flu/cold/cough/TB/other respiratory disease going around, why should we bother for covid?". Well maybe we were bloody stupid before and thousands of people became sick, some of them dying, from perfectly preventable illnesses!

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By *tticus Finch 76Man
over a year ago

Northampton

I'm still wearing mine as it's the sensible thing to do and I'll continue for as long as I need to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm torn between b & c ....

Tbf started to wear mine again recently ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only dogs wear Muzzles

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"only dogs wear Muzzles"

Yes a very useful, educated addition to this thread

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By *ottom charlieMan
over a year ago

washington

(i) till its gone,,, if the whole of the country had kept wearing them out side of their homes just maybe it would have gone by now,, wear a mask and save a loved one

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By *ftereightMan
over a year ago

SouthEast

They do feck all but increase bacteria to your own lungs once they quickly become dirty and damp face coverings. Viral wise they are like a chain link fence trying to stop a mosquito and a bit pountless. Sage advice from Whitty etc up until last summer was there was no data to suggest they worked then a leaked sage document by their behavioural pyhscologists stated they need to up the fear factor for social distance/lockdown compliance to increase so they were then mandated to increase the visual fear and compliance of covid rules..and are now pretty much purely virtue signalling devices

So our answer is A.

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By *aussageMan
over a year ago

Stalbridge

Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"They do feck all but increase bacteria to your own lungs once they quickly become dirty and damp face coverings. Viral wise they are like a chain link fence trying to stop a mosquito and a bit pountless. Sage advice from Whitty etc up until last summer was there was no data to suggest they worked then a leaked sage document by their behavioural pyhscologists stated they need to up the fear factor for social distance/lockdown compliance to increase so they were then mandated to increase the visual fear and compliance of covid rules..and are now pretty much purely virtue signalling devices

So our answer is A. "

**Please Fact Check for your own safety**

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I've not stopped wearing 1 in indoors public places and it's an incredibly minor behavioural adjustment. I'd continue indefinitely, if appropriate, as we have with many changes in life. I'm guessing that it will not be particularly necessary by next summer. We're better with the combined benefits of multiple simultaneous strategies.

Certainly, if more people get vaccinated and the government pays people reasonably to isolate from now when inflected, we would have a better winter

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By *hil most chillMan
over a year ago

London & Europe

How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe"

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

For as long as it takes. I do not think that it is only a matter of wearing masks indoors but a matter of people being vaccinated and acting in a reasonable manner for all this thing to end. As long as these things do not happen, I will give it a couple of years. This is an estimate. Depends on other people who do not want to comply and make the whole thing end or at least diminish faster.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"only dogs wear Muzzles"

You are aware the definition of to muzzle is to stops and animal biting or in human terms to stop them speaking. A mask does not stop you speaking therefore not a Muzzle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe""

We aren’t though.

We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries.

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin

"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe"

We aren’t though.

We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries. "

Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it?

According to the official figures we currently have the fastest growth rates ahead of Russia, Ukraine, Rumania and Germany in that order. And to put that in perspective the growth rate in the UK is 4x that of Germany.

In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe"

We aren’t though.

We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries.

Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it?

In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania.

I didn't try and suggest anything other than say according to the ONS report that was produced 3 days ago we are 11th on the list in Europe. Please don't put words in my mouth because at no point did I say we shouldn't worry about it! I simply pointed out that he was wrong to say we had the highest cases in Europe because we don't we are 11th.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not

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By *ulgehunterMan
over a year ago

yorkshire

Just over Halloween I think

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not "

Which one do you have?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

A mask doesn't impair me getting on with my life so whatever it takes if needed. It has saved me a fortune on make up so win win

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not

Which one do you have?"
Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not

Which one do you have? Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ? "

A normal one that paramedics and most NHS staff wear.

I am not sure why you are interested in what others wear if you don't

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Wonder how many of the pro mask wearers have the N95 one , or as we observe have not

Which one do you have? Haven’t got a mask , what one do you wear ?

A normal one that paramedics and most NHS staff wear.

I am not sure why you are interested in what others wear if you don't"
Just interested no law against that

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Think I will probably wear a mask in certain situations forever. Regardless of not getting covid I Quite like not catching colds. As covid subsides will wear a mask less.

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By *ola81Woman
over a year ago

pond

A- had enough of it. Those so called masks worn by billions won't protect you from viruses. Plus breathing own Co2 definitely have impact on your respiratory system. Ask respiratory specialists which mask would protect from viruses. Not those silly ones that people wearing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

(H) Haven’t worn them wont wear them, regardless of requirements advice and guidelines. Not one for doing things that have as many detriments as positives.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"A- had enough of it. Those so called masks worn by billions won't protect you from viruses. Plus breathing own Co2 definitely have impact on your respiratory system. Ask respiratory specialists which mask would protect from viruses. Not those silly ones that people wearing.

If masks don't keep viruses in how do they keep much smaller CO2 particles in?

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By *good-being-badMan
over a year ago

mis-types and auto corrects leads cock leeds

Its illogical to believe a cloth or paper face covering protects other and not you.

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By *eadingCouple1963Couple
over a year ago

Reading

"(H) Haven’t worn them wont wear them, regardless of requirements advice and guidelines. Not one for doing things that have as many detriments as positives.

It’s always great to have a virologist posting on FAB

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By *azylivingMan
over a year ago

swansea / Bristol

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan
over a year ago

golden fields

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

H) as long is reccomended by infectious disease experts reccomend we do, backed up with the scientific reasoning.

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By *erlins5Man
over a year ago

South Fife

They are still mandatory in many places here in Scotland and I have to wear one for my shift at work, so I am kind of conditioned to it.. Which I guess is a little scary... But happy to wear it a little longer if it keeps us safer. Myself and two family members are traveling to London soon for football and will wear them but I gather from others who have visited England that we will be in a minority and might even be ridiculed... Not sure if that is true but just what I was told.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks?

Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same.

If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"(H) Haven’t worn them wont wear them, regardless of requirements advice and guidelines. Not one for doing things that have as many detriments as positives.

The number of every day things we do that meet your requirements for not wearing a mask is making my head hurt. Before I continue making the list can I check if this is an excuse for not wearing a mask? It would make life so much easier.

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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place

"only dogs wear Muzzles"

I've just looked up muzzles. I don't think it means what you think it means.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks?

Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same.

If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely "

I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot.

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

I care about the well-being of other humans, so I will continue to do so as long as necessary.

I remain mystified as to whether the sheer ignorance demonstrated in this thread regarding the point of wearing a mask is innocent or wilful. It's been nineteen months; how can people genuinely still not understand?

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks?

Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same.

If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely

I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot. "

You are both displaying principles and values that benefit others! This will not catch on, not on my watch

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Have you noticed how colds are actually rare now people wear masks?

Considering that in Japan they wear masks if they have a cold to stop anyone else getting it. Is it that bad that we can't do the same.

If I have a cold or see someone with a mask on I will wear one indefinitely

I like the idea of taking a tiny gesture to care for the health of those around me. I like it a lot.

You are both displaying principles and values that benefit others! This will not catch on, not on my watch

Alas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If masks don't keep viruses in how do they keep much smaller CO2 particles in?"

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue. "

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?"

Nothing really. Your immune system response is mostly quite specific to pathogen. So getting lots of colds isn't really going to help you fight off covid or flu when you need it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

As obviously a supporter of real, natural, unrestricted life I presume you’re going to leave your house, go naked and purely walk for the remainder of your days?

As with pulling pants on every morning… I’ll do it for as long as it’s the sensible choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?"

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

currently travelling down W France

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

When I feel it's going to be the right thing to do. I don't need some fucking clown in Westminster to tell me either ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Initially A but now G

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?"

Dealing with the vaccines I've been giving it

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. "

N95 masks only offer protection if they are fit tested

No good if facial hair is present

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By *illyGoFarMan
over a year ago

Fantasyland USA

Attended 3 big sporting events in a span of 1 week. NFL game (60k), USA World Cup qualifier (20k), Keeneland Race track (3k). Hardly any masks at all. Tested positive for Covid last Monday. Very sick for 2 days (fever, cold, pressure against chest, no taste or smell.)

Got my 2 jabs last March and April.

Today, recovered except for still not able to smell or taste anything. No telling where I contracted Covid. Masks probably would have helped but I'm absolutely convinced the 2 jabs prevented me from something worse. Still worried about remaining symptoms. No fun at all.

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By *oobyHotwifeWoman
over a year ago

Thurrock

A / B

I should add I'm exempt but had been wearing them while they were compulsory but avoid as much as i can going anywhere where they were required

I stopped wearing them as soon as we were told we could but still haven't really been going out as I was prior to all of this

Ideally I wouldn't want to wear them again but if it's masks or another lockdown I'll suffer them to run into the supermarket & continue with my new hermit existence

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

If people are going to post please be civil, telling people they are talking tripe/ shite/ bullshit is not in the spirit of the forum, even if you think it true.

There are other ways to say it

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By *enuineguy76Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."
A

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

G. It's such a small thing to do, it doesn't take any effort on my part and (bonus!) it hides my double chins. Happy to continue wearing indefinitely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling.

N95 masks only offer protection if they are fit tested

No good if facial hair is present "

To repost…

This information is absolutely incorrect and presented in the wrong context, you are referring to the fact you can when fit tested achieve a near 100% protection to any harmful airborne particles (of any virus).

That is an entirely different equation to general mask wearing to reduce covid-19’s spread. That science works on the reduction of viral load both released and or inhaled by those wearing masks. Every mask from simple cloth coverings to full surgical masks achieves that.

Covid-19 infection depends on viral load, it’s not a simple case that one particle ingested will infect someone, it’s when many do… therefore masks (of any sort) make a sizeable difference to public health.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling. "

This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior.

N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling.

This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior.

N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it."

The fact that people deny basic physics to bandwagon on this silly little culture war is ridiculous.

During a pandemic of a respiratory illness, reducing the trajectory of your spit and breath is a sensible precaution.

The laws of how things are projected or not don't suddenly shatter under the horror of virtue signalling

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

B as most pandemics only last 2 years (don't quote me on that!)

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By *inky_CarpenterMan
over a year ago

Portsmouth

As long as it is necessary and or beneficial to public health.

Additionally I hope this will mark a cultural shift and that anyone who has a cold or flue in the future will wear a mask and sanitize their hands when going out in public. Many cultures have been doing this for years and it is particularly effective in areas of high population density.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"As long as it is necessary and or beneficial to public health.

I am proof of this...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from "

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

IF masks are stopping your exposure to these pathogens then the body will become less able to cope with them in the future meaning viruses that previously caused a minor illness will be much worse in the future.

This is not opinion, it is fact. It's already being seen in all hospitals with more kids being admitted with non Covid respiratory infections due to them not having been exposed normally over lockdown etc.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Wearing a piece of paper over my mouth and nose is absolutely fine.

Have done so for years at work so to pop it on in shops or busy areas is no problem for me.

Happy to do so indefinitely.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling.

This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior.

N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it."

Not sure on passing the virus, as most N95 masks have an exhaust port in them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t mind wearing one, it’s not a hardship and living in a city probably not a bad idea with the pollution. If it means that this, or any other future contagious deadly virus, Is easier to control then i really don’t mind.

Having spent over a year with a forced 20% pay cut due to furlough and loosing a family member to covid, i don’t see any issue with helping stop the spread by wearing a mask.

This won’t be the last pandemic so if it is the new normal, fine. Just my opinion though.

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

I want to know where you can get a muzzle mask from, would be fun to wear in Tesco.

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By *ilver Fox 60Man
over a year ago

Southport

Indoors until the plague has gone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've yet to try one on.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Indoors until the plague has gone."
so for ever then? You do realise this virus is gona be in the background forever

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

A x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Only n95 masks offer any real protection. The rest is virtue signalling.

This sums up covid in the past couple years. They think the only reason people wear masks and get vaccinated is so they feel superior.

N95 will protect you against both contracting and passing on covid. Regular masks will prevent others from conttacting covid if you have it.

Not sure on passing the virus, as most N95 masks have an exhaust port in them. "

I think early on people taped over it, and now they're being manufactured without the exhaust (or with a filtered exhaust).

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

If this helps to protect me and others, it is a minor imposition, then happy to do ‘my bit’ for as long as is required… I still wear mine in shops and where asked to do so, or where I feel it sensible to do so.

Maybe if we all complied with this and did ‘our bit’, we would help those who genuinely can’t wear masks, and help us all get to a position sooner where we no longer need them …. but reading much of the above realise I’m living in Narnia!

R x

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years.

I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs.

I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"If this helps to protect me and others, it is a minor imposition, then happy to do ‘my bit’ for as long as is required… I still wear mine in shops and where asked to do so, or where I feel it sensible to do so.

R x"

I was rummaging in the back of a wardrobe too

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years.

I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs.

I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere. "

If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible.

I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

I’m exempt and have never worn one, but if it applied, ‘A’ would be my answer! Miss pc

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By *omerset tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I work with about 120 + people everyday and not stopped working since covid started everyday is just like it was before . The company say its our choice whether we wear a mask or not but they cant make anybody wear one as its against their human rights to make somebody wear one. they did bring in voluntary testing for bout 4 months but not lot of people were bothering so they hand out the self testing kits now instead but most people arnt even using them now. I must admit if im in a big group of people i do wear 1 but went to Bridgwater fair few weeks back with literally several 100s of people there and you could probably count on 1 hand people wearing a mask "

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

Locally, one firm said "OK, you have that right. We have a legal obligation to protect our employees and the public from foreseeable events. You can refuse to wear the respiratory protection, but we will then move you to another workplace where you will not come into contact with other employees or the public"

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

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By *omerset tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

I have Eastern European neighbours 2 doors up 3 guys in a houseshare they have refused too let covid change their lives at all all through last summer they had friends round almost daily having bbqs in garden or house partys at night some people just dont care

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers."

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm just fuck ugly so always wears a paper bag on mi head so I don't scare kids

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By *ombikerMan
over a year ago

the right side of the river

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes."

I think it’s quite simple.

If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask.

If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask.

If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work?

Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes.

I think it’s quite simple.

If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask.

If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask.

If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work?

Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate."

I support your right to think whatever you choose.

Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality.

I recognise that there are accessibility issues that have been exacerbated by the pandemic, but reducing the spread of disease, and the knock on effects to other disabled and vulnerable people, takes precedence, I'm afraid.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Do masks work... well let’s look at it this way, high rate of mask wearing last winter, low case rates of cold and flu.. does that not speak for itself?

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years.

I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs.

I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere.

If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible.

I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask."

Maybe think harder or smarter, is someone sneezing in your face not worse than you sneezing in your own mask?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"People in the far East...and old Trafford, have been doing it for years.

I think it's a great idea when you're under the weather to wear a mask and help not to spread your germs.

I hate it when someone comes into work coughing and spluttering everywhere.

If I'm feeling unwell I stay at home. As everyone should where possible.

I can't think of much worse than sneezing into a fucking mask.

Maybe think harder or smarter, is someone sneezing in your face not worse than you sneezing in your own mask?"

Sneezing in the mask is pretty gross. But I have thought, imagine getting that all over my surroundings

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

A) not just because I’ve had enough, but because if mask wearing becomes mandatory, that means all swingers and fetish clubs will close again!!!!

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

"Do masks work... well let’s look at it this way, high rate of mask wearing last winter, low case rates of cold and flu.. does that not speak for itself?"

You forget the lockdown!

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By *atnip make me purrWoman
over a year ago

Reading

This winter for sure and ongoing TBD.

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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago

London

A - And this comes after contracting Covid19 just a few weeks back having not worn a mask since July.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes.

I think it’s quite simple.

If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask.

If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask.

If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work?

Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate.

I support your right to think whatever you choose.

Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality.

Its easy for you to say it takes precedence as you don't have that is.

In any case, it doesn't - as can be seen from them not being mandatory and the minority wearing them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do masks work... well let’s look at it this way, high rate of mask wearing last winter, low case rates of cold and flu.. does that not speak for itself?"

Masks were mandated late summer when Covid numbers in the UK were at their lowest. They then climbed all the way to the January peak.

We were also locked down and wfh, preventing spread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wear a mask for work so makes no difference to me to keep wearing all winter. coughs and sneezes spring to mind

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes.

I think it’s quite simple.

If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask.

If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask.

If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work?

Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate.

I support your right to think whatever you choose.

Your thinking on mask efficacy has no relationship to reality.

Its easy for you to say it takes precedence as you don't have that is.

In any case, it doesn't - as can be seen from them not being mandatory and the minority wearing them."

I'm stating my beliefs, not the beliefs of the government or the populace. I prioritise death, disability, and the health system over most other things.

My disability is also exacerbated by mask wearing, so I'm actually perfectly qualified to speak on the subject.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

Not sure there is a length of time that works.

It is surely about the circumstances and culture.

In Asian societies it is deemed polite to wear one if you have a cold.

This seems a far more sensible approach than some arbitrary cut off date.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Not sure there is a length of time that works.

It is surely about the circumstances and culture.

In Asian societies it is deemed polite to wear one if you have a cold.

This seems a far more sensible approach than some arbitrary cut off date. "

My current thinking is a) while infections rage, and after that b) in places where people can't avoid to be in c) high risk time periods (so, supermarkets, public transport, healthcare settings, particularly in winter, to reduce the incidence of flu).

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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago

warwick

How long ……don’t wear them so not at all lol

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By *estriancdtopTV/TS
over a year ago

chester

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By *xfordshireCoupleMFCouple
over a year ago

Nr. Oxford

I don’t like them and feel more comfortable without. That being said I will of course wear one if mandated to though will probably just stay home more. I did my first online Christmas shop last year so if I have to do it again this year then so be it.

Lily

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By *hesblokeMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire village

They don't bother me, although I don't like them (do any of us?) But I'm happy to keep wearing them for however long it takes.

Have been (touch wood) cold-free for ages so I'll take that as a win!

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By *orset.JMan
over a year ago

Weymouth

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

We will struggle to control case numbers whilst so many remain unvaccinated- ( natural exposure only causes short term immunity)pressure is going to grow on those not vaccinated yet to vaccinate and this in turn will decrease R and infection rates in time - but this will take a year at least.

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By *onesyMan
over a year ago

harrogate

You must be joking, wearing a mask protects others.

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By *revaunanceCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

"just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

'Reasonable' depends on the threat of the virus. If it becomes rampant then precautions should be for longer. But if it ebbs away, and maybe even becomes beaten by newer medical practice then precautions should also reduce sooner.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc."

Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now.

There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore.

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I think the premise of your question that 'masks' are restrictive or prohibitive to real or natural life is wrong. Masks are being used as some symbol of freedom and liberation, which is a bit of a joke really, as there is nothing about wearing masks that restricts our freedom - if anything they're one tool to help bring our freedoms back. Personally, just as they do in Asia, i won't be needing a mandatory dictate from government to make me wear a mask. Even when Covid-19 is endemic and the combination of vaccine induced and natural immunity from infection reduces the seriousness of the disease, I'll continue to wear a mask for the rest of my life now whenever I am suffering from a cold or bug to protect others and in enclosed spaces like public transport to protect myself. No big deal, but if it means I am less likely to get ill giving me more time to live my life in good health, then that's what i call freedom!

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc.

Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now.

There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore. "

Why do people need the government to tell them what to do and what not to do? A friend told me he was on a train to Scotland with only 20% of people wearing masks. As they crossed the border an announcement said that masks were now mandatory, and everyone out their masks on!! It's the same fucking train people!!

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Not sure there is a length of time that works.

It is surely about the circumstances and culture.

In Asian societies it is deemed polite to wear one if you have a cold.

This seems a far more sensible approach than some arbitrary cut off date. "

This - I've spent a lot of time in Asia and their attitude to mask wearing is spot on - makes us look medieval

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Loads play the human-rights ploy.

Loads get away with it.

They moved her to a small office on her own. Sorted.

While at work I had to wear RPE *every day*...and not the simple facemask. It was a full-face headshield with air supplied.

Some people are just whingers.

Human rights don't exist in isolation. One person may assert the right not to wear a mask - others may assert the right to be protected from foreseeable risk.

Most of our rights exist in degrees, not as absolutes.

I think it’s quite simple.

If you are afraid and feel a mask will keep you safe them use a mask, if you feel you are fit and healthy and feel you are at no risk then don’t use a mask.

If you think a mask works then use your mask and it should not bother you if someone else has no mask.

If you think other people need to be forced to wear a mask because you wear a mask then do you actually believe masks work?

Personally I prefer to see people’s smiles and expressions and I am hearing impaired, so I use lip reading to help me communicate."

Masks work to reduce risk. The evidence of studies worldwide is irrefutable. But do you really need studies. It's plain obvious that if you create a barrier, it reduces the risk. MRSA was a huge crisis 20 years ago in hospitals. How did they control it? By getting clinicians, nurses, patients and visitors to wash their hands. Simple measures, cost nothing, restrict noone.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Wonder how the company would feel if they are forced to close by the HSE, several companies I have mates working in them were nearly shut down due to workers attitudes to testing, face masks, etc.

Maybe while the lockdown was active, bit there's nothing the HSE or any other body can do now.

There is no legal requirement for distancing, masks or any other measures anymore.

I found the same phenomenon pretty startling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Masks work! You try trick or treating without one and see how you get on

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By *lex D.Man
over a year ago

London

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

Disagree!

Firstly, +90% of adult population have been vaccinated.

Secondly, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that natural immunity is no less protective than the gene therapy programme.

Thirdly, your issue should not be to the minority unvaccinated but towards the lamentably slow 3rd dose rollout progarmme meaning those at high risk who received their 2nd dose early this year are now at great risk whike the virus currently runs roughshod.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

Disagree!

Firstly, +90% of adult population have been vaccinated.

Secondly, there is absolutely no scientific evidence that natural immunity is no less protective than the gene therapy programme.

1) only the over 50s have 90%+ vaccination rate.

2) the problem with natural immunity is it isn't uniform at all. It's especially generally weak in people with mild symptoms. Natural immunity also comes with side effects like death, organ damage and long covid as opposed to a sore arm or mild fever.

3 whilst I agree the booster rollout hasn't been amazing. It stands that the majority of people in hospital are unvaccinated. The unvaccinated are a smaller part of the population and generally younger so should only make a tiny fraction of hospital cases.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not worn one though all of this crap, won’t start now

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By *ngie1962Couple
over a year ago

Bedford

Unless everyone wears a mask it’s pointless the mask doesn’t protect you it protects others so unless everyone wears them it’s useless and people who don’t wear them properly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

This ‘fact’ as you term it is simply not true… can you showcase any data surrounding NHS staff for instance… we’ve spent most days during this pandemic fully masked yet as far as I’m aware there isn’t a single case of illness accredited to mask wearing.

I would add, an immune system isn’t forgetful, that’s why as kids some of us where sent to play with kids who had chicken pox…the illness was acquired and overcome… future immunity was in place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unless everyone wears a mask it’s pointless the mask doesn’t protect you it protects others so unless everyone wears them it’s useless and people who don’t wear them properly "

They protect both parties in reality.

Any grade of mask reduces particle flow and therefore viral load potentially inhaled

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Unless everyone wears a mask it’s pointless the mask doesn’t protect you it protects others so unless everyone wears them it’s useless and people who don’t wear them properly

They protect both parties in reality.

Any grade of mask reduces particle flow and therefore viral load potentially inhaled "

Covid isn't the only consideration.

Masks are ok as a very temporary measure, but wi have a negative impact on the immune system if used for prolonged durations. We need exposure to pathogens.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity."

So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations?

Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity.

So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations?

Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies?"

I'm not overthrowing anything, love. The existing decades of data backs up this fact.

It is evident that the immune system needs exposure to continue to work - this is why there are annual Flu jabs, this is why we are needing Covid boosters, this is why plenty of other vaccinations need boosters.

And this is why kids raised in cometely sterile environments tend to have shit immune systems

Feel free to explain which part of the above is incorrect

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity.

So immunological research and decades of experience with pox parties is overcome by your current observations?

Fascinating. When are you being awarded your doctorate, so you can overthrow immunology and all its lies?

I'm not overthrowing anything, love. The existing decades of data backs up this fact.

And this is why kids raised in cometely sterile environments tend to have shit immune systems

Feel free to explain which part of the above is incorrect"

Alright, schnukums.

The flu jabs confer limited immunity and antigenic drift means that they need to be replaced. Old technology.

Covid is a new situation and the boosters are in part a precautionary measure - in part an artefact of the fact that it's much harder to measure T cell immunity, which might be more important.

The childhood thing is true, but that doesn't mean it extends to adults with mature immune systems.

Is that alright for you, pumpkin pie?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity."

The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection.

You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses.

The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains).

Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing!

The surge or late arrival of various illnesses has nothing to do with masks, it has everything to do with vast timespans in lockdown pushing their spread back. It’s an incredibly well documented area of medicine currently.

Again, masks have zero negative impact on either your health or indeed immunity. If they did pretty much the entirety of the NHS would be bedridden or dead at this moment in time as we’ve lived solidly wearing them for the better part of 2 years.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity.

The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection.

You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses.

The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains).

Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing!

Too funny.

Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point.

To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too funny.

Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point.

To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable."

What’s your profession Light Switch?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity.

The one thing I can summarise if you have very little understanding of infection.

You’ve just answered your own question… “we are exposed to NEW strains (or mutations), eg: we are exposed to NEW viruses.

The obvious example is flu… hence why every year old folk across the world get their booster jab (to cover new known strains).

Here’s your ‘light switch moment’ - they still have to do that regardless of mask wearing!

Too funny.

Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point.

To suggest that long term wearing of masks over your face has no negative impact is laughable."

Why, because of your anecdote and falsely equating sterile infancy with infection control measures in adults?

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By *emorefridaCouple
over a year ago

La la land

"It doesn't really bother me. I wear one all day at work so don't see the issue for another half an hour in the supermarket.

I don't understand what the big problem is. I've not had a cough or cold since we started wearing them so that's a good enough reason for me to continue.

What do you think is happening to your immune system while you're not getting ill with minor bugs?

Nothing will happen to your immune system… not sure where that random question came from

Your immune system needs exposure to pathogens in order to maintain / increase its effectiveness.

That comment is so illogical.

I know plenty of people who are being hit harder than usual by normal bugs - and I've already given you an example seen in chdren.

Immunity needs to be constantly topped up as viruses such as cold / flu etc develop slightly different strains. This is why Covid is being caught by those with immunity."

How is immunity topped up? This phrase is new to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How is immunity topped up? This phrase is new to me "

Obviously someone has the view it works a bit like a petrol pump!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Masks either work im which case they have the same affect as the lockdown by pushing back spread (your words) in the same way lockdown did, or they don't in which case what's the point."

Erm no, masks all work… depending on their grade and application they will give you a different level of effectiveness.

Your point makes zero sense to me. Are you saying because I’ve solidly worn masks for the past two years (and worst news yet, for the vast proportion the highest of mask grades) that should I catch Covid-19 now it’s going to be a far more severe illness compared to a scenario where I caught it say 3 months back? Have I unwittingly given myself some kind of mask HIV?

This doesn’t seem to be the reality I see with colleagues who are affected? As far as I’m aware distance between catching an illness has zero bearing on its severity or indeed one’s ability to fight off that infection.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

It’ll be a couple of years for me on public spaces.

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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

I would happily see them become mandatory on the London underground. Such a cramped space to be in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only Dogs wear muzzles or trained chimps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would you wear mask when you play

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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

"would you wear mask when you play "

No we wouldn't. But we'd ask that the person/people we play with would take a RFT before meeting, in the same way we'd ask for recent sexual screen results too.

Besides, that is completely different to spending time in cramped spaces with people you have no idea about - such as public transport

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A. Had far too much already

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By *DGF20Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Have nice one...cheap Chinese rag on your face is make sense same as ashtray on motorcycle

Or same peace of rag is protecting you same as a tshirt protecting you from bullet

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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

"Have nice one...cheap Chinese rag on your face is make sense same as ashtray on motorcycle

Or same peace of rag is protecting you same as a tshirt protecting you from bullet

Well you're talking nonsense

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By *cottish guy 555Man
over a year ago

London

It's hardly a task so I wear it whenever in an indoor public place. If staff have to wear them then I do it to offer them some degree of protection no matter how small

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Here and there

For me as long as need be even if for rest of life its an issue putting mask on to go shopping etc always been puzzled by outlook of the fed up of wearing masks all times reality is just in shops etc.

But being reasonable about protecting myself and others as long as need be.

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By *andSCouple
over a year ago

PDI for now

We hope that it's just for this winter, but if it's part of the new normal that's being banded about that's ok too.

We are using masks in supermarkets and other indoor settings where there's no check on whether people are either vaccinated of tested negative before entering.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

would you wear a muzzle on a meet

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference"

Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered?

Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn?

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference

Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered?

Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn?"

I remember a recent billboard in london tube stations. Be considerate, wear a mask as not all disabilities are obvious.

At these challenging times of the pandemic, vaccinated and unvaccinated people should at least be considerate towards their fellow travelers even if wearing a mask is not compulsory.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"stops your freedom & dehumanising you same difference

Why? What can't I do with my nose and mouth covered?

Would you say that the immunocompromised are more or less free when masks are worn?

I remember a recent billboard in london tube stations. Be considerate, wear a mask as not all disabilities are obvious.

At these challenging times of the pandemic, vaccinated and unvaccinated people should at least be considerate towards their fellow travelers even if wearing a mask is not compulsory."

It seems we're becoming less so, not more.

All I can do is not respond when I'm shouted at. *shrug*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would you wear mask when you play "

Depends how kinky the play is...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously though, what's the problem with just wearing masks eg on public transport for as long as they're needed? It's cheap, easy and apparently has a noticable effect on reducing transmission.

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By *edheadjMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

"would you wear a muzzle on a meet"

Do you wear a seatbelt when in a car?

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By *ayjay218Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Is it such a hardship to wear one at or in certain places. I know that the effectiveness and how much they stop the spread of the virus is debatable, but if it stops one person dying surely that is worth it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"would you wear mask when you play

Depends how kinky the play is..."

Just Don’t start insulting the furries. We know how sensitive they can be. They don’t understand That fab and the real world isn’t Twitter where everyone agrees with you.

/joking of course. No one agree with anyone on Twitter.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

The virus has and will spread regardless.

The mask makes no difference and should be a choice, just like the vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you're scared of breathing fresh air then wear a mask. If you feel like naturally breathing in fresh air around you then do so without a mask.

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By *bonybucksMan
over a year ago

High Wycombe

I wear mine and am ok to. Though it gets a bit warm with it on.

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By *rimrose and TonyCouple
over a year ago

Farnworth

"How about "until the UK isn't the covid capital of Europe"

We aren’t though.

We are currently 11th on the list in Europe and we are testing far more than most countries.

Umm....by what measure? And are you trying to suggest we shouldn't worry about it?

In terms of death rates its true, the UK is 4th behind Russia, Ukraine and Rumania.

So that, by your own words, doesn't make the uk the covid capital

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By *ouple for swingCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

if your mask covers your knees its too long!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will not be wearing a mask, taking a vaccine, obeying any restrictions or frankly lifting a finger to help people who are trying to curtail my civil liberties. We've been swiftly divided into 2 ridiculous groups of vaccinated and unvaccinated, which is counter to all science. But since most people have accepted these groupings then if it's tribalism you want, it's tribalism you shall have.

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By *ame for funMan
over a year ago

north coast

A.deffo

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable."

As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer?

We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves.

Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer?

We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves.

Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time."

You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk.

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

Masks, washing hands, and keeping distance are what works.

The masks thing is of the smallest benefit but it at least can get you closer for short periods.

Every country that bet heavy on vaccines is going through massive spikes as the citizens acted like they were immune.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer?

We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves.

Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time.

You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk.

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

Remember the virus is extremely intelligent. It knows when to infect you. It doesn’t infect you when you eat & drink apparently, but does so when you get up from your table.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm more than happy to follow the Japanese example - from November to March, when there is the greatest pressure on the health service, wear a mask in public.

At the end of the day it's incredibly impolite to share germs with people who don't want them. Just my right to swing my arm ends at your nose, your right to be infectious ends at your front door.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Serious question for those that seem to want mandatory mask wearing to be reintroduced in indoor settings.

How long are you prepared to continue to do this for if mandated before real, natural, unrestricted life should continue?

A) Had enough ready - No more masks for me.

B) Just to get us through this winter

C) for another year

D) for another couple of years

E) up to 5 years

F) up to 10 years

G) for the rest of my life if requested

Please keep all the mask wearing pros/cons opinions to the many other threads - just interesting to see how long people think is reasonable.

As long as it is necessary is surely the obvious answer?

We humans do not have the ability to control the spread of viruses and bacteria - all we can only fight them when they show themselves.

Challenging a virus to a mask-off challenge is something that a human will lose - every time.

You'd think your answer would be the obvious one. But you're not accounting for all the people who just can't be bothered any more and would rather just put lives at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm more than happy to follow the Japanese example - from November to March, when there is the greatest pressure on the health service, wear a mask in public.

At the end of the day it's incredibly impolite to share germs with people who don't want them. Just my right to swing my arm ends at your nose, your right to be infectious ends at your front door. "

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