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By *irtyold man OP   Man
over a year ago

barnsley

Been reeding about the private lab given 120milion of tax payers money .not been dooing tests told 34thousand folks they dont have covid when they do.

Wonder if this was another of boris chums geting rich quick from tax payers money.

120 milion is a nice nest egg for a scam artist

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Been reeding about the private lab given 120milion of tax payers money .not been dooing tests told 34thousand folks they dont have covid when they do.

Wonder if this was another of boris chums geting rich quick from tax payers money.

120 milion is a nice nest egg for a scam artist"

If the CEO or who ever owns the company might or might not be a tory does not make them one of boris mates!

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe

Most of the labs are private companies that specialised in similar technology or Fields before covid.

The one I worked for received no government grants.

Mistakes happen in all fields sadly.

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By *achiatoMan
over a year ago

Fife

43,000 mistakes...That's acceptable?

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"43,000 mistakes...That's acceptable?"

Depends whether it was unforseen or bad practise,I don't know the details of what exactly went wrong.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Most of the labs are private companies that specialised in similar technology or Fields before covid.

The one I worked for received no government grants.

Mistakes happen in all fields sadly."

The one in question only started their company last May, three months after they got the contract

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By *9alMan
over a year ago

Bridgend

the directors of this company should be arrested for corporate manslaughter fraud etc incompetency should not be a valid defense.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Been reeding about the private lab given 120milion of tax payers money .not been dooing tests told 34thousand folks they dont have covid when they do.

Wonder if this was another of boris chums geting rich quick from tax payers money.

120 milion is a nice nest egg for a scam artist"

Is this proven or just gossip?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the directors of this company should be arrested for corporate manslaughter fraud etc incompetency should not be a valid defense. "

Lol

Fantastic.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

A Company being set up to maximise an opportunity.? Good, that's what we want isn't it.?

A Company being incompetent... Should be charged and fined and compulsory remedial actions.

A company deliberately falsifying data... Should be prosecuted and struck off.

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"Most of the labs are private companies that specialised in similar technology or Fields before covid.

The one I worked for received no government grants.

Mistakes happen in all fields sadly.

The one in question only started their company last May, three months after they got the contract"
.

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking, the technology is expensive, gene sequencing alone takes a 50 grand machine 24hrs under supervision by a qualified technician and costs £1600 per test, however alot of the labs running them were previously doing it in other ways, just a slight retool for sars-cov2.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

The parent company is also being investigated.

The certification that was supposed to be in place, was not.

It's starting to stink to high heaven.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The parent company is also being investigated.

The certification that was supposed to be in place, was not.

It's starting to stink to high heaven."

World beating!

Sigh

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"The parent company is also being investigated.

The certification that was supposed to be in place, was not.

It's starting to stink to high heaven."

Certification for what?.

I've not read anything that's been released as to what the actual failure was so I'm completely in the dark to any problems.

What do you know specifically?.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

A certain company that falsified qc results over an extended period and where two ex staff were arrested is one of the biggest players in the Covid pcr testing market

Go figure ...

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"A certain company that falsified qc results over an extended period and where two ex staff were arrested is one of the biggest players in the Covid pcr testing market

Go figure ...

"

My old company used to sell the PCR kits, they were bought by lots of frauds and used by one man in Bolton at least a thousand times (sold on the black market for a grand and the only person buying a faked PCR test for a grand are the ones who actually know they have covid but wanted to fly anyway) he's one of the reasons Bolton had the initial outbreak of Delta.

Pakistan and India airways then refused them and made you use the Q cards.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Most of the labs are private companies that specialised in similar technology or Fields before covid.

The one I worked for received no government grants.

Mistakes happen in all fields sadly.

The one in question only started their company last May, three months after they got the contract.

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking"

With respect, you don't know my thinking.

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"Most of the labs are private companies that specialised in similar technology or Fields before covid.

The one I worked for received no government grants.

Mistakes happen in all fields sadly.

The one in question only started their company last May, three months after they got the contract.

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking

With respect, you don't know my thinking. "

Sorry no I don't, I only had your statement to go off.

What was your thinking?.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

If I had wanted to say more I would have posted

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"If I had wanted to say more I would have posted "

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"The parent company is also being investigated.

The certification that was supposed to be in place, was not.

It's starting to stink to high heaven.

Certification for what?.

I've not read anything that's been released as to what the actual failure was so I'm completely in the dark to any problems.

What do you know specifically?.

"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/18/uk-lab-immensa-false-negative-covid-tests-not-fully-accredited

I found these for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anyone say any of the tests are accurate??

43000 negatives that were or should have been maybe been positives but I'd bet there have been just as many if not a lot more positives that's should have been negatives

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can anyone say any of the tests are accurate??

43000 negatives that were or should have been maybe been positives but I'd bet there have been just as many if not a lot more positives that's should have been negatives "

Just no.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"Can anyone say any of the tests are accurate??

43000 negatives that were or should have been maybe been positives but I'd bet there have been just as many if not a lot more positives that's should have been negatives "

Yes the correct tests used properly are accurate.

It's much easier to get a false negative than a false positive in most biological testing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking, the technology is expensive, gene sequencing alone takes a 50 grand machine 24hrs under supervision by a qualified technician and costs £1600 per test, however alot of the labs running them were previously doing it in other ways, just a slight retool for sars-cov2."

They weren't sequencing as far as I can tell. This is just RT-qPCR.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm puzzled how this pcr test was put together seeing as neither the CDC nor the Fda have a sample of sars cov 2

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm puzzled how this pcr test was put together seeing as neither the CDC nor the Fda have a sample of sars cov 2"

Any idea what a PCR test is? Facebook has all the info.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm puzzled how this pcr test was put together seeing as neither the CDC nor the Fda have a sample of sars cov 2"

Well that's bizarre because the full sequence of the genome is available.

Get your science from Facebook and you'll be puzzled forever.

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"The parent company is also being investigated.

The certification that was supposed to be in place, was not.

It's starting to stink to high heaven.

Certification for what?.

I've not read anything that's been released as to what the actual failure was so I'm completely in the dark to any problems.

What do you know specifically?.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/18/uk-lab-immensa-false-negative-covid-tests-not-fully-accredited

I found these for you"

Many thanks I'll take a look

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking, the technology is expensive, gene sequencing alone takes a 50 grand machine 24hrs under supervision by a qualified technician and costs £1600 per test, however alot of the labs running them were previously doing it in other ways, just a slight retool for sars-cov2.

They weren't sequencing as far as I can tell. This is just RT-qPCR.

"

No I wasn't meaning they were, most testing companies don't, I was simply using it as a meaning of conveying why it probably wasn't a "brand new" company.

So they specialised in quantitative PCR, that's interesting, I've still not read anything that says what actually went wrong so at the moment it could be gross mismanagement or a simple calibration of a camera.

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Surely, if you intend to defraud you would give out false positive results; less risk of being prosecuted? If it was 43,000 done incorrectly then who retested them to see that the original test was wrong? What test samples did they use?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"

That's really not that uncommon, the one I worked for specialised in chemical engineering of similar fields, they also set up a new subsidiary company for dealing with PCR testing in march 2020,I very much doubt this company was a new one like your thinking, the technology is expensive, gene sequencing alone takes a 50 grand machine 24hrs under supervision by a qualified technician and costs £1600 per test, however alot of the labs running them were previously doing it in other ways, just a slight retool for sars-cov2.

They weren't sequencing as far as I can tell. This is just RT-qPCR.

No I wasn't meaning they were, most testing companies don't, I was simply using it as a meaning of conveying why it probably wasn't a "brand new" company.

"

I was simply using it as a meaning of conveying that it was a new company getting a huge contract from the Gov three months after setting it up, while thinking here we go again, another company given contracts when possibly there were others that were more established. Then I realised that would have sent the thread into a different subject so left it.

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By *Just meMan
over a year ago

Basingstoke

They would have been inspected and checked by the local health authority for professional standards to deliver the tests... Yes clearly something went wrong... Rather than playing politics how about looking for the failure in the system and fix it. Simply put... a medical lab cannot just set up and get a contract without stringent controls in place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They would have been inspected and checked by the local health authority for professional standards to deliver the tests... Yes clearly something went wrong... Rather than playing politics how about looking for the failure in the system and fix it. Simply put... a medical lab cannot just set up and get a contract without stringent controls in place. "

Simply put...they weren't UKAS accredited for the test being done.

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24


"They would have been inspected and checked by the local health authority for professional standards to deliver the tests... Yes clearly something went wrong... Rather than playing politics how about looking for the failure in the system and fix it. Simply put... a medical lab cannot just set up and get a contract without stringent controls in place.

Simply put...they weren't UKAS accredited for the test being done. "

I doubt ANY of them are, it takes months if not years and with Covid I suspect .....

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

Spent out £360 on day two and day 8 for us both with Boots had to have proof of purchase in order to leave the UK.

By the time we returned the day eight requirement was scraped.

The day two tests could not be registered after 1hour on the internet and telephone once pasted the robot told to post them with registering them and clearly mark them with our ID Ref.

To date 1 and half months ago still no reply.

luckly the boarder control never contacted us but still rather feel robbed.

Pretty sure Boots arnt owned by Doris or his loved ones but all the same.....

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