FabSwingers.com forum: Another pandemic

By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Relax. This isn't news of another one.

Do you expect another pandemic of similar impacts, during your lifetime?

Will you cope better with it, how will you be?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes, climate change and incursion on wildlife makes it more likely.

Depends on specifics. I'll be more emotionally prepared, I suspect.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

This one ain't over yet

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By *udistcpl1Couple
over a year ago

Wirral

I saw a TV show early last year talking about bats and covid. Bats get covid every year, a different strain, so I agree regarding the comment about this pandemic aint over yet.

It will take a little while now before we have a universal vaccine - it will then be over.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

It is a possibility. For a pandemic like this one we need perfect conditions.

Somehow I was prepared and I coped. I had the experience of SARS, even though this was very short lived.

But after Covid19, if this happens again I will be more prepared for the panic buying, the selfishness and other extreme behaviours especially if the fatality rate is a lot higher.

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By *ungBlackTopMan
over a year ago

salford

I hope so, some people haven't learnt any lessons from this current one. Shame that innocent people have to die for the selfish c***s on the planet.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I hope so, some people haven't learnt any lessons from this current one. Shame that innocent people have to die for the selfish c***s on the planet."

Yes they have everyone will get the virus it's no ones fault

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I saw a TV show early last year talking about bats and covid. Bats get covid every year, a different strain, so I agree regarding the comment about this pandemic aint over yet.

It will take a little while now before we have a universal vaccine - it will then be over."

They're working on a universal coronavirus vaccine

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe

It depends on whether they continue with the stupid actions and lax safety in gain of function laboratories.

Would we better prepared for another? Probably not as it really comes down to resources but we think this one ain't done by a long way, we're just in a current lull before it picks up again and when it does we're probably more concerned by a system wide failure.

Follow the billionaires, there all buying retreats in New Zealand, should tell you something that's coming down the pipe.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Well in the news recently a report about scientists doing experiment's on ice hundreds of thousands of years old unlocking hitherto unknown bacteria and viruses.

So it's a very strong possibility that some ancient virus could break out.

Also with space exploration as it is maybe a bit more sci-fi but an extra terrestrial bug or virus brought back from space.

And lastly a man made virus released with the sole purpose of destroying humanity.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

Let’s just hope it’s the zombies finally …

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

Definitely.

I am surprised that we got off relatively lightly this time; though the relatives of the deceased certainly don't think so.

The pandemic should be preparing us for the future devastation to be caused by climate change, if we don't act, which we won't, of course.

We may be a relatively intelligent species, but this has enabled us to be destructive, rather than holistic and far-sighted in our thinking.

We have been such idiots, the way we have mistreated our fantastic Earth.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

The climate change pandemic when it comes will make covid look like toothache by comparison.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"The climate change pandemic when it comes will make covid look like toothache by comparison. "

Care to elaborate?

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Let’s just hope it’s the zombies finally … "

I have the chainsaw ready

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Yes, think so.

But, then again, we all suffer from short memories.

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By *ohn8210tCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

Our friends have vaccinated their cattle for the covid strain for over 20 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The climate change pandemic when it comes will make covid look like toothache by comparison. "

Ain't that the truth!

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Definitely.

I am surprised that we got off relatively lightly this time; though the relatives of the deceased certainly don't think so.

The pandemic should be preparing us for the future devastation to be caused by climate change, if we don't act, which we won't, of course.

We may be a relatively intelligent species, but this has enabled us to be destructive, rather than holistic and far-sighted in our thinking.

We have been such idiots, the way we have mistreated our fantastic Earth."

We are obscene, how we treat the earth and all life. Whilst it was 100 years from the last large pandemic, I think I'll probably see another before I die. Will it be easier? I'm uncertain, except for the familiarity of restrictions, it will be tough.

Flu is probably overdue and a universal flu vaccine is elusive, despite clinical trials, including in the UK, which haven't delivered what was needed.

This isn't over and we will make more mistakes and probably not learn what we could at a political level. It ultimately needs political change and the direction we have is poor globally, as evidenced by global heating.

There's insufficient personal will and accountability in our citizens and politicians, so we will likely elect the badly inept ad nauseum

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Our friends have vaccinated their cattle for the covid strain for over 20 years. "

Just not this one?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Relax. This isn't news of another one.

Do you expect another pandemic of similar impacts, during your lifetime?

Will you cope better with it, how will you be? "

In 2005 the WHO notified governments around the world to be ready for a pandemic in the wake of the H5N1 epidemic and most ignored it. The chances of fuckwit politicians learning from this one is zero. In the not too distant future there will be a population killer

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By *issusWoman
over a year ago

Belfast

Yes. Idiocracy come true.

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By *acamanCouple
over a year ago

aberdeen

Is it to far fetched to think that it's just the planets way of thinning out the herd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know that this virus/pandemic has been the worse thing in living memory that mankind has faced but sadly it won't disappear it will be something we will have to live with like Ebola and Rabies both of which came from animals.

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

Virus hit Africa a few weeks ago, kills 80 percent of people who catch it.

Bats again.

I'm actually starting to blame people like Rick stein and other travel chefs who travel to these countries and then tell us "isn't it marvelous the variety and how fresh it is" knowing full well it came from wet markets where animals are stored alive and killed Infront of people with not thought of cross contamination given.

I also blame Stephen fry, he did an episode of qi where he lambasted products with "kills 99% bacteria and virus", told people not to use them, that it's the 1 percent you have to worry about so they do nothing. All the products listed would kill coronavirus and if people were washing properly with antibacterial and antivirus stuff it wouldn't have spread.

The truth is, we need to just call improper food storage dirty, black list countries who can't store it properly from doing business with us in the hopes it drags them up a bit. And wash properly. Otherwise we are gonna have pandemic after pandemic.

Didn't hiv come from improper food storage too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Virus hit Africa a few weeks ago, kills 80 percent of people who catch it.

Bats again.

Didn't hiv come from improper food storage too?

Yes, not using enough antibac is clearly the reason an airborne virus has spread across the globe.

Jesus

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

"Virus hit Africa a few weeks ago, kills 80 percent of people who catch it.

Bats again.

Didn't hiv come from improper food storage too?

What utter crap is written on these threads

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I hope so, some people haven't learnt any lessons from this current one. Shame that innocent people have to die for the selfish c***s on the planet."

All humans are selfish!

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I hope so, some people haven't learnt any lessons from this current one. Shame that innocent people have to die for the selfish c***s on the planet.

All humans are selfish!"

Yes but it's generally not the top motivation guiding us, when it comes to rational decision making, in order to take intelligent decisions, helping us all, ss well as individuals, such as getting vaccinated and to wear masks.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

There are clearly huge efforts being made to make us link global warming and illness.

The same processes are at work: scientists who disagree are silenced. Same with all sceptical voices.

The pile of steaming BS will soon be visible from space

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"There are clearly huge efforts being made to make us link global warming and illness.

The same processes are at work: scientists who disagree are silenced. Same with all sceptical voices.

The pile of steaming BS will soon be visible from space"

You're correct, the contrarians are becoming more and more obviously wrong. But they'll just shift the goalposts as we continue to destroy the planet, claiming it's a conspiracy

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Is it a 'conspiracy'? I don't know and neither do you.

But I suspect you are using the 'conspiracy' allegation in a bad-faith way...as if you just want to suggest that anyone questioning orthodoxy is beyond the pail.

A slur in other words that is beneath intelligent people

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Is it a 'conspiracy'? I don't know and neither do you.

But I suspect you are using the 'conspiracy' allegation in a bad-faith way...as if you just want to suggest that anyone questioning orthodoxy is beyond the pail.

A slur in other words that is beneath intelligent people"

I didn't say it was, I'd say they'd claim it.

Given that they already are claiming that Covid is a conspiracy of the global warming conspiracy, it's hardly a slur

I'm just reporting a thing that's happening and predicting it'll continue.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing"

My mind is open, but not so open my brain will fall out.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Perhaps try not to suggest that people who hold different views are 'conspiracy theorists' then?

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing

My mind is open, but not so open my brain will fall out. "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Perhaps try not to suggest that people who hold different views are 'conspiracy theorists' then?"

I said that they'll claim it's a conspiracy. Because they have claimed it's a conspiracy. That people have got together and conspired to fake or exaggerate Covid as part of faking or exaggerating global warming because... reasons new world order something dunno.

I'm sorry if reporting behaviour accurately is insufficiently open minded for you. People do this.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"There are clearly huge efforts being made to make us link global warming and illness.

The same processes are at work: scientists who disagree are silenced. Same with all sceptical voices.

The pile of steaming BS will soon be visible from space"

The 'silenced' scientists are not silenced though, as all credible research has many avenues for it to be published in reputable scientific literature.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Some people may be hiding behind what others say as a means of discrediting views they don't like expressed?

No need for it... debate bon the points, not repeating 'ither people's' smears

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Some people may be hiding behind what others say as a means of discrediting views they don't like expressed?

No need for it... debate bon the points, not repeating 'ither people's' smears"

So we can't discuss the sphere of the discussion that's been had?

That seems limiting.

Or must we only do so if we're deferential to certain ideas?

Not all people who claim that everything is a conspiracy are conspiracy theorists, I'm sure some are very fine people and love puppies and pick up litter - but some people claim it's all a conspiracy.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Discuss facts.. but let's avoid labelling as a means is trying to shut people up

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Discuss facts.. but let's avoid labelling as a means is trying to shut people up"

So... Some people claim it's all a conspiracy?

Like I said in the first place?

Or is "people" a label?

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing"

Then isn”t also good to question to conspiracy and the people behind the conspiracies (their motives etc)? This is what some of us who do not believe in conspiracy theories do.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing

Then isn”t also good to question to conspiracy and the people behind the conspiracies (their motives etc)? This is what some of us who do not believe in conspiracy theories do."

Yes. Some of the leaders in that arena are fabulously wealthy. Follow the money, as they say.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing

Then isn”t also good to question to conspiracy and the people behind the conspiracies (their motives etc)? This is what some of us who do not believe in conspiracy theories do.

Yes. Some of the leaders in that arena are fabulously wealthy. Follow the money, as they say. "

Exactly!

I have this very good friend of mine (recently vaccinated due to presure from work) so we are having heated discussions for long time.

He gets upset because it seems to him that I always side with government advice and numbers no matter what. He tells me I accept everything without questions.

He then shares to our small group of friends news some of them fake news/conspiracy theories etc. When I tell him that the responsible thing is to do a fact check before he posts because this is the responsible thing to do he tells me it is up to us to check whether this info is true as we are all adults!

Then after the fact check (questioning his info in detail) he still does not accept! Fact checks from bbc, from reuters etc are not good enough even though he posted the info just like that. It is the mainstream media he says. Well Reuters is not even media!

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

Watch the video. A CNN reporter went to find one of the allegedly top spreaders of misinformation. The doctor avoided to say anything. Why not say something on camera? It is not that he was busy, that he was with a client. Why not sharing his views? CNN was giving him the opportunity to respond to questions on camera.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not in my life time...no. Pandemics occur approximately every 100 years

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By *rcstarkMan
over a year ago

Midlands

I wouldn’t say we will have another in our lifetime. Unless this was cooked up in a lab then who knows… dangerous stuff if that’s the case

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Only one really deadly pandemic in my life time, AIDS/HIV. Bird flu killed quarter of million plus but not a huge effect on the whole world like hiv or covid 19. Will another come along anytime soon? I suspect there will be another in my lifetime humans are messing about the natural environment far too much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep!

"Only one really deadly pandemic in my life time, AIDS/HIV. Bird flu killed quarter of million plus but not a huge effect on the whole world like hiv or covid 19. Will another come along anytime soon? I suspect there will be another in my lifetime humans are messing about the natural environment far too much."

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Watch the video. A CNN reporter went to find one of the allegedly top spreaders of misinformation. The doctor avoided to say anything. Why not say something on camera? It is not that he was busy, that he was with a client. Why not sharing his views? CNN was giving him the opportunity to respond to questions on camera.

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr "

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

Bill Gates?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Put it this way, if anyone believes they're being told the whole truth they are being as naïve as a child.

To question is ALWAYS a good thing

Then isn”t also good to question to conspiracy and the people behind the conspiracies (their motives etc)? This is what some of us who do not believe in conspiracy theories do.

Yes. Some of the leaders in that arena are fabulously wealthy. Follow the money, as they say. "

Bill Gates?

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By *ancy38Woman
over a year ago

galway

"Relax. This isn't news of another one.

Do you expect another pandemic of similar impacts, during your lifetime?

Will you cope better with it, how will you be? "

With the amount of money made through pandemics for a select few, of course we're going to see more of them. Just as night follows day.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?"

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I wouldn’t say we will have another in our lifetime. Unless this was cooked up in a lab then who knows… dangerous stuff if that’s the case

So true... I do wonder was it man made... If so I hope the truth will be revealed

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back. "

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you."

So zero sources. I thought so! Nevermind, they are too many to list even a few here. Right?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you.

So zero sources. I thought so! Nevermind, they are too many to list even a few here. Right?"

I didn't say 'zero sources'. You said that for your own reasons.

My advice is to read widely, read sceptically...and then read some more.

Look for assertions for which no evidence is provided. Look for non sequiturs. Then read some more. Then listen to others.

Keep an open mind. Don't have blind faith

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you.

So zero sources. I thought so! Nevermind, they are too many to list even a few here. Right?

I didn't say 'zero sources'. You said that for your own reasons.

My advice is to read widely, read sceptically...and then read some more.

Look for assertions for which no evidence is provided. Look for non sequiturs. Then read some more. Then listen to others.

Keep an open mind. Don't have blind faith"

I have an open mind. I just wanted a few links from you. I am not going to insist if you can not provide a few. Cheers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you."
I'm open to be challenged. Who should I be looking out for ? Or can you show evidence of voices being silenced.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you.

So zero sources. I thought so! Nevermind, they are too many to list even a few here. Right?

I didn't say 'zero sources'. You said that for your own reasons.

My advice is to read widely, read sceptically...and then read some more.

Look for assertions for which no evidence is provided. Look for non sequiturs. Then read some more. Then listen to others.

Keep an open mind. Don't have blind faith

I have an open mind. I just wanted a few links from you. I am not going to insist if you can not provide a few. Cheers!

You must read yourself. And do it with an open mind

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Always better to read widely and sceptically than just trust one organisation that only pushes one point of view at you.I'm open to be challenged. Who should I be looking out for ? Or can you show evidence of voices being silenced. "

Yes, Facebook removes views that are non-orthodox.

Same with YouTube

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To answer the question. To;Dr Don't know.

I think as humans we tend to focus on what has happened recently. So another pandemic feels believable. Just like we another 9/11 felt more likely in 2002 than 2012.

But maybe something has changed. Maybe there is evidence of more animal to human transmition than previously. Maybe that's related to population growth and proximity of nature to humans due to habitat reductions. (Shooting from the hip here)

The human race is at threat from many events. We probably should seek to think about them all rather than the last.

One could argue we are overdue a war in Europe ....or could argue that changes have been made to quell the risk. Intersting debates all round

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

Apparently the information of the theorists is highly priviledged. You have to dig deep to find the truth. Only like that you will trully understand. Which is kind of weird because if they really want us to share the truth they should easily provide to us these sources of wisdom.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible."

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

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over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source"

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

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over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source"
what are the themes to Google? Or what search terms did you use ? Judt a little help here...

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe."

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

You follow your 'theorists' . I'll stick to seeking wider views, thanks. I commend NEVER trusting in arguments from authority: only begin to trust them if they can build a case and tackle counter-arguments... that's the basis of ALL science

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over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clear

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over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clear"
I've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Could be anyone, like Alex Jones, Robert F Kennedy Jr. Even when banned one can still find these very esteemed vaccine experts

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clear

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Could be anyone, like Alex Jones, Robert F Kennedy Jr. Even when banned one can still find these very esteemed vaccine experts

Keep an open mind. It's the basis of ALL science

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Could be anyone, like Alex Jones, Robert F Kennedy Jr. Even when banned one can still find these very esteemed vaccine experts

Keep an open mind. It's the basis of ALL science"

Then keep an open mind for the MRNA vaccines? It is the basis for ALL science. Get vaccinated and you may be surprised. An MRNA vaccine might save your life, right?

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Could be anyone, like Alex Jones, Robert F Kennedy Jr. Even when banned one can still find these very esteemed vaccine experts

Keep an open mind. It's the basis of ALL science

Then keep an open mind for the MRNA vaccines? It is the basis for ALL science. Get vaccinated and you may be surprised. An MRNA vaccine might save your life, right? "

Yes, it may. Or it may not.

My advice: look for claims and counterclaims. Try to weigh them up. Read widely so you can try to evaluate.

NEVER just trust claims automatically

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over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clear"
FML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it"

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm. "

There are so many areas that need looking at!

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over a year ago

Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!"
but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us."

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong"

I have outlined the methodology you need to use. Now go and do it... I'm not doing it for you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the first nor the last pandemic. History is one plague after a war after another plague. Sras? Mers? Japanese flu, Spanish flu, AIDS?

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By *ilmissplumpyWoman
over a year ago

Wolverhampton

"Our friends have vaccinated their cattle for the covid strain for over 20 years.

Just not this one? "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort"

I have. I've come to my own conclusions.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort

I have. I've come to my own conclusions."

Very good. That's how it should be.

Best not to describe others in a dismissive way though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

I have outlined the methodology you need to use. Now go and do it... I'm not doing it for you"
as I said, I do this. I'm forever on Google scholar and have just discovered r/covid19 which curates papers.

Tbh your lack of cooperation undermines the credibility as a scientific mind. We could have had a good discussion. Challenge views. Shame you didn't want to.

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

I have outlined the methodology you need to use. Now go and do it... I'm not doing it for youas I said, I do this. I'm forever on Google scholar and have just discovered r/covid19 which curates papers.

Tbh your lack of cooperation undermines the credibility as a scientific mind. We could have had a good discussion. Challenge views. Shame you didn't want to. "

No lack of cooperation. The opposite. I'm telling you how you shouldn't just believe CNN (or any other single news source).

But now you must go and research. You'll find a whole world of issues out there

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over a year ago

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

Tbh your lack of cooperation undermines the credibility as a scientific mind. We could have had a good discussion. Challenge views. Shame you didn't want to.

No lack of cooperation. The opposite. I'm telling you how you shouldn't just believe CNN (or any other single news source).

But now you must go and research. You'll find a whole world of issues out there"
preaching to the converted. I'm not going to spend hours s running down random conspiracy rabbit holes. But will go down any holes you point me towards (ooh err).

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By *drianukMan
over a year ago

Spain, Lancs

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

Tbh your lack of cooperation undermines the credibility as a scientific mind. We could have had a good discussion. Challenge views. Shame you didn't want to.

No lack of cooperation. The opposite. I'm telling you how you shouldn't just believe CNN (or any other single news source).

But now you must go and research. You'll find a whole world of issues out therepreaching to the converted. I'm not going to spend hours s running down random conspiracy rabbit holes. But will go down any holes you point me towards (ooh err). "

I don't ask you to 'run down conspiracy holes'.

I think you should read widely...and refrain from saying that people who don't agree with you are conspiracists.

Why do you reach so easily for abuse and dismissiveness? It's very revealing

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"I saw a TV show early last year talking about bats and covid. Bats get covid every year, a different strain, so I agree regarding the comment about this pandemic aint over yet.

It will take a little while now before we have a universal vaccine - it will then be over."

Have a read of the Bat lady and her research, 12 different coronavirus strains that can infect human lung tissue were found out of the hundreds of coronavirus strains they carry, its quite interesting

The more we mess with nature the more we expose ourselves to deadly bacteria and viruses

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"Not in my life time...no. Pandemics occur approximately every 100 years"

Time has little to do with it, pandemics are a function of population size, the human population is many times larger than a 100 years ago. Larger population gives more opportunities for a virus to make the species jump and more opportunities to establish itself and spread.

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=569290454250289&_rdr

To be fair you'd have to be pretty gullible to trust CNN. Perhaps the doctor knew their reputation?

Yes I am very gullible to trust CNN. Care to share the sources you trust? The ones that say who are the ones behind the pandemic and why. Do not hold back.

I believe they are a bit embarassed to list their sources. Well I am not embarassed to share CNN etc and be labelled gullible.

You expect me to go back over all the reading I've done in the last year and list the address I read them at?

And to post them here?

And you would read them (you wouldn't). That's ridiculous.

I'll just give general advice about reading widely and sceptically. If an organisation gives you only one point of view, find another source

Not really. Your answer was exactly what I expected. I am getting the same answer from other theorists so you covered me. Anyway, stay safe.

Seriously: if you find a news source giving only one point of view, find another news source.

Read widely. You'll be better informed.

Read it again: it's very clearI've tried. It isn't. Maybe it's the quote system. Humour me and write it again so I can do the literature review you have.

Read it again. It's very clearFML. You claim it's clear. I claim it isn't. I can't prove a negative, so will ask you to prove it by quoting the clear section.

Or maybe someone else can help?

"Go do your own review" is a pretty poor show in science circles.

Until then, I'm out. I'm going to claim you don't have any real scientific evidence. My support for this claim is your inability to provide it or engage in my attempts to understand your position.

I welcome your counter argument as that may help me get answers to my original questions.

It's perfectly clear. Read it again.

It's about the need to keep an open mind. Read claims and counterclaims. Don't just trust one source.

Try to evaluate the claims and counterclaims. Read a lot to help you in this. Listen to other people.

Keep an open mind.

This is the basis of all honest inquiry.

If someone tells you that only one source should be trusted...then distrust the person saying it

I do that.

Thought there was a specific area you were suggesting to look at. Nm.

There are so many areas that need looking at!but are there any you recommend where the MSM is very wrong

Tbh your lack of cooperation undermines the credibility as a scientific mind. We could have had a good discussion. Challenge views. Shame you didn't want to.

No lack of cooperation. The opposite. I'm telling you how you shouldn't just believe CNN (or any other single news source).

I don't ask you to 'run down conspiracy holes'.

I think you should read widely...and refrain from saying that people who don't agree with you are conspiracists.

Why do you reach so easily for abuse and dismissiveness? It's very revealing"

More revealing is the enormous wealth of scientific materials that we have developed during this pandemic. It's a godsend to have so much eeighty material that's been produced as a result of the scientific method.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort

I have. I've come to my own conclusions.

Very good. That's how it should be.

Best not to describe others in a dismissive way though?"

I described behaviour I've seen. I'm sorry if that offends you, but I won't be stopped from using words to describe behaviours to cater to sensitivity.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort

I have. I've come to my own conclusions.

Very good. That's how it should be.

Best not to describe others in a dismissive way though?

I described behaviour I've seen. I'm sorry if that offends you, but I won't be stopped from using words to describe behaviours to cater to sensitivity. "

Interesting if you think that he is sensitive and talks against labelling people when at the same time he labels people gullible because they trust sources he does not rate and characterises some people’s comments as abusive and dismissive. There is certainly a discrepancy in his words.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes I do. I reckon that there will be a food shortage.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Yes I do. I reckon that there will be a food shortage."

No hun

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"I reckon that there will be a food shortage."

Are you already stockpiling Haribos ?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Adrian not wanting to seem rude but it might come accross that way, but you’re sounding like a broken record. Just name ONE source? Educate us. Don’t just talk at us, talk to us.

No, you need to go and read yourself. I'm sure you could...but you have to make an effort

I have. I've come to my own conclusions.

Very good. That's how it should be.

Best not to describe others in a dismissive way though?

I described behaviour I've seen. I'm sorry if that offends you, but I won't be stopped from using words to describe behaviours to cater to sensitivity.

Agreed.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

"I reckon that there will be a food shortage.

Are you already stockpiling Haribos ?"
Yes abit. I have few more in the cupboard

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By *ophieslut OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I reckon that there will be a food shortage.

Are you already stockpiling Haribos ?Yes abit. I have few more in the cupboard

I'm going into production to fight global heating and help the next pandemic.

Toilet rolls will be used as a Carbon sink, locking their Carbon away for decades. In the event of the next pandemic, there will be no shortage of loo rolls, as stock will be released to the market, to counter the selfish fckers who hoarded it.

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