FabSwingers.com forum: To wear or not to wear a mask

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't very often unless it's somewhere really busy. I'm sceptical they help outside a medical environment where they're thrown away more regular and not reused.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I don’t get is it’s a personal choice now, but you see people wearing them in a shop incorrectly, with their nose sticking out over the top, either wear it properly or don’t bother, it’s like putting a condom on your bollocks and not your cock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wear it still inside mostly or if it’s very very busy x and I’m double vaxxed

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Seeing them less and less now. I still wear them in shops when your going to be close to someone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What I don’t get is it’s a personal choice now, but you see people wearing them in a shop incorrectly, with their nose sticking out over the top, either wear it properly or don’t bother, it’s like putting a condom on your bollocks and not your cock. "

U killed me. Literally she died and went straight to hell

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By *offiaCoolWoman
over a year ago

Kidsgrove

Type 'research on mask wearing with covid'. Some research is available.

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By *wist my nipplesCouple
over a year ago

North East Scotland, mostly

Does it not work if you just stretch over your bawsack?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So many people do that. I like to wash my hands with gel and keep a distance but I think that I'd more habit as I tend to shop late evenings when I can as I don't love crowds even pre corona

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Wear them

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

Double vax people have same virus load in their nose as unvaccinated when they catch delta.

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

Always inside public spaces. I haven't been to any really busy public spaces until yesterday, when I decided people were too close so I kept the mask on.

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By *unslut1Man
over a year ago

Truro

I don't think wearing a mask is necessarily about protecting yourself. It's about protecting others from anything you might be carrying. I hate wearing my mask around the supermarkets and shops but I still do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

With the vaccines they give you the data on the effectiveness. They don't share any info about the effectiveness of masks when used by the general public. So don't think they know. Covid is 500,000 smaller than fabric holes on masks.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"Double vax people have same virus load in their nose as unvaccinated when they catch delta."

How do you know this

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I shop in the evening. I find crowds stresses me. It that is more my aspergers.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm still wearing my mask in any space that required them before the 19th of July, or in crowded spaces.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

People are still getting the virus

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"People are still getting the virus "

We will all get it eventually. It isn't going anywhere. I think it is pointless restricting again unless hospitals get full

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"People are still getting the virus

We will all get it eventually. It isn't going anywhere. I think it is pointless restricting again unless hospitals get full "

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"People are still getting the virus

We will all get it eventually. It isn't going anywhere. I think it is pointless restricting again unless hospitals get full "

So the new normal will it be as bad as before???

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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"With the vaccines they give you the data on the effectiveness. They don't share any info about the effectiveness of masks when used by the general public. So don't think they know. Covid is 500,000 smaller than fabric holes on masks."

Look up Professor Trisha Greenhalgh to understand pros and cons of mask wearing.

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By *liceinWonderland38Woman
over a year ago

Coventry

Look up Professor Trisha Greenhalgh to understand pros and cons of mask wearing.

She is an absolute queen!! Her post on Twitter which is ridiculously long details this so well. Definitely to be read and followed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work in a clinic in town and we do still use them plus covid restrictions are still in place regards people in at one time and distancing where it can be implemented.

I still will wear a mask for public transport (I travel on the tube ) also to shops and probably will continue to. I dislike the phrase "new normal" but as someone mentioned , covid is here to stay so we have to now live around it.

on places like Hong Kong folk have been wearing masks out and about for years for reasons , that is their normal, they are used to it as we may well become

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Look up Professor Trisha Greenhalgh to understand pros and cons of mask wearing.

She is an absolute queen!! Her post on Twitter which is ridiculously long details this so well. Definitely to be read and followed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://youtu.be/0Tp0zB904Mc

Masks don't provide a guarantee of efficacy but are a good preventative measure nonetheless.

I was contemplating wearing masks in public due to the air pollution regardless of COVID, some roads are very noxious to walk along and can be counterproductive to your respiratory health if you're walking for aerobic exercise, but that's not COVID related and another long observed topic unto itself.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people."

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask"

I wear glasses full time and don't leave my nose uncovered

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

I have to wear a mask due to the building trade, Ive spent 3/4 of my life with steamed up glasses unable to see a damn thing.

No company offers you a better mask other than the paper ones including heritage sites.

Its either wear it or dont bother.

Complain about the provided masks they quote they are adequate for the job complaine more and your down the road sacked.

The half face masks have changed enough now for me to wear one with glasses with no steam ups .

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By *isces WomanWoman
over a year ago

West London

I wear.mine on the tube buses and shops.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

I’m medically exempt, and wear an official lanyard, mr pc still wears a mask in certain shops! I’m still receiving as much abuse now from people as I’ve received since March 2020 for not wearing a mask, which is very sad tbh! Miss pc

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people."

A tiny strip of micropore tape along the bridge of nose stops glasses misting up Simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m medically exempt, and wear an official lanyard, mr pc still wears a mask in certain shops! I’m still receiving as much abuse now from people as I’ve received since March 2020 for not wearing a mask, which is very sad tbh! Miss pc

That's crazy because masks are uncommon now in most places in my life from my workplace, the suppermarket through to smaller shops.

I have noticed people aren't diving into each others personal space though which is good.

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By *69BANMan
over a year ago

Reading

The virus is spread via droplets and sputum, it doesn't float around by itself infecting people

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By *rs mischiefWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

This made me laugh much.. its so true!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I,m going with the flow and wearing mine where other people are wearing theirs. Most in our local shops/supermarkets are.

My daughter is exempt because of her learning disabilities, she's still wearing her lanyard. Z

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By *heekyFlirtyCoupleCouple
over a year ago

Stockport

Still wearing in shops and places where I don’t feel comfortable not wearing one.

Not an issue to me.

Kinda reminds me covid still around and to keep distance when I’m wearing one!

Mrs J

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By *abasaurus RexMan
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

I’m deciding as I go, but carrying one with me.

If it’s compact or busy, I’ll wear it. If it’s spacious and well ventilated, I won’t.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still a legal requirement in pretty much all indoor spaces here (Wales). I've never seen the issue with wearing one, so its fine with me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I look forward to the day it's not compulsory to wear one,here in N.Ireland

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The benefit is for other people, particularly those who are immune-compromised but can't have the vaccine. I haven't changed my behaviour since the 19th July - I wear a mask inside public spaces except when eating.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

We are still wearing them and it would appear the majority are local to us.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask"

I wear glasses and manage to wear a mask with minimal steaming up. If your glasses are steaming up you are not wearing your mask correctly.

There is no point wearing a mask below your nose....unless you're a permanent mouth breather

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people."

I got so frustrated with this that I ended up having LASIK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never owned one or worn one anywhere and will carry on not wearing one anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never owned one or worn one anywhere and will carry on not wearing one anywhere. "

You seem nice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never owned one or worn one anywhere and will carry on not wearing one anywhere.

You seem nice "

Thankyou

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask

I wear glasses and manage to wear a mask with minimal steaming up. If your glasses are steaming up you are not wearing your mask correctly.

There is no point wearing a mask below your nose....unless you're a permanent mouth breather

The masks I have have an adjustable nose fitting bit and are tight enough that I get almost no steam.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask

I wear glasses and manage to wear a mask with minimal steaming up. If your glasses are steaming up you are not wearing your mask correctly.

There is no point wearing a mask below your nose....unless you're a permanent mouth breather

I'm glad you manage. I've got about 10 different masks, various different styles. I still can't manage to make the glasses not steam up. I'm perfectly capable of knowing how to wear my mask correctly. Maybe it's my face shape, or the glasses I wear. I have made do in the past with things like tissue, and when required I will wear one and in small spaces to respect others.

I had so many dirty looks yesterday in the supermarket for not wearing a mask. I'm vaccinated, I do wash my hands and sanitise regularly and wouldn't go out if I was showing any signs of being unwell. But I'm still a cunt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll always and ever wear a face covering on public transport and crowded places for now...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

Just do as I do wear it only over the mouth leaving the nose uncovered

As your glasses wont steam up at all

Most places are fine with this due to us glasses wearers as long as we state the reason why.

None glasses wearers are all mouth but they dont wear glasses so they dont know the problems of masks and glasses.

The only alternative we have is a 25.00 half face mask

I wear glasses and manage to wear a mask with minimal steaming up. If your glasses are steaming up you are not wearing your mask correctly.

There is no point wearing a mask below your nose....unless you're a permanent mouth breather

I think it does vary depending on the face shape / glasses.

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

"Double vax people have same virus load in their nose as unvaccinated when they catch delta.

How do you know this "

CDC tested people, found the same virus loads on nose, the floor flopped back to asking vaccinated people to wear mask.

Lambda and Delta are being transmitted by vaccinated people. The only question really is, does the vaccine help you with them variants.

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By *oncupiscent_dreamMan
over a year ago

City

Covid needs a bubble of water around it to survive. It also needs to be sent out at speed to make it to another person.

It's been shown covid dies almost instantly on some surfaces as the bublle bursts protecting it. So the mask should catch the wet drops, and stop them travelling as far. So if someone is 2m away then the mask will help.if they are right beside you, then It does nothing.... Unless it's n95 or whatever it is that will stop it for closer contact.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

Oh dear...surely the same applies to EVERY virus or bacteria that causes illness so why are masks worn in hospitals by surgeons etc?

The virus needs something to carry it such as your breathe. The mask limits the distance your breathe travels and captures some of the particles you breathe out.

They aren't 100% effective but even at just 50% they would still be a tool to reduce the spread.

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By *r easy1981Man
over a year ago

leeds

Don’t wear a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Never owned one or worn one anywhere and will carry on not wearing one anywhere. "

Then you are a fool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don’t wear a mask "

Then you are a fool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Normal Masks only work if everyone is wearing one, otherwise unless they are N95+ they are not really going to do much.

I still wear them and will continue for the years to come now they are normalised. It’s brilliant I get to walk around semi anonymous, no CCTV tracking or facial tracking, not having to small talk with people that I don’t really care about. It’s fantastic.

I’ve only had one cunt comment this weekend about wearing one and when I question him about it, turns out he doesn’t like not seeing people faces, doesn’t know who’s shifty or a danger, basically a pussy.

But in all honestly, because the bulk of people are not wearing a mask, it’s going to do very little to prevent COVID for the ones that are.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Keep wearing your masks. We do & are happy to given what we have all gone through for the past 18 months. It isn’t that inconvenient & it helps others.

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By *urplechesterCouple
over a year ago

chester

That's crazy because masks are uncommon now in most places in my life from my workplace, the suppermarket through to smaller shops.

I have noticed people aren't diving into each others personal space though which is good.

KJ "

In our area mask wearing is still happening with the majority, from those in shops to those walking in the countryside! Those without masks get frowned upon, and like in mine and my daughters case, although we have our lanyards on we still get some level of abuse every day! Haha I agree with the personal space thing, however it would be nice to have a door held open for you instead of slammed in your face. A lots changed, Miss Pc

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Keep wearing your masks. We do & are happy to given what we have all gone through for the past 18 months. It isn’t that inconvenient & it helps others."

In public, I don't give anyone grief for not. I give them lots of space.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's good that at this stage of the pandemic we have the evidence that masks do reduce potential inflation levels, unlike earlier on. It's wise and respectful to wear them when mixing indoors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a little mini supermarket near us went in today not one member of staff wearing masks now so think it will just slowly die out

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By *arc and KamaCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

The worst people are those vaccinated. They do not care about anything. The problem is that they do not understand that the vaccine does not bounce back the virus from them. They can still catch it. They can go through it easier/milder but they can still catch it and for sure they can spread it.

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I wear mine as I have learned that their are some very uneducated people who have not understood either what the benefits of soap is but also I breathe in less fumes that float around so imagine everyone breathing then you take it in like pass the parcel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The worst people are those vaccinated. They do not care about anything. The problem is that they do not understand that the vaccine does not bounce back the virus from them. They can still catch it. They can go through it easier/milder but they can still catch it and for sure they can spread it.

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

Anyway, I'm vaccinated but I still care! But there's new rules in place by the Government and haven't they said - those fully vaccinated don't have to isolate now???? Or is my bloody Daughter wrong. (I'll kill her if she is)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

Oh and I forgot to add - even most shops have relaxed the mask wearing! Do the businesses not care either, I wonder

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By *ischievous_mickMan
over a year ago

north west

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

I think the rule now is. If you’ve had both jabs you don’t have to isolate if your LFT is negative. Obviously if it positive is the routine of PRC test then isolate.

But if not yeah your fine to be Normal if your double jabbed lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

I think the rule now is. If you’ve had both jabs you don’t have to isolate if your LFT is negative. Obviously if it positive is the routine of PRC test then isolate.

But if not yeah your fine to be Normal if your double jabbed lol "

Thank you Mick

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By *ischievous_mickMan
over a year ago

north west

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

I think the rule now is. If you’ve had both jabs you don’t have to isolate if your LFT is negative. Obviously if it positive is the routine of PRC test then isolate.

But if not yeah your fine to be Normal if your double jabbed lol

Thank you Mick

Don’t quote me on it though haha. I don’t fancy the wrath of BBM if I’m wrong … or maybe I might like that haha x

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people."

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too."

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

I think the rule now is. If you’ve had both jabs you don’t have to isolate if your LFT is negative. Obviously if it positive is the routine of PRC test then isolate.

But if not yeah your fine to be Normal if your double jabbed lol

Thank you Mick

Don’t quote me on it though haha. I don’t fancy the wrath of BBM if I’m wrong … or maybe I might like that haha x"

Oh poo I missed this before I wrote the one above.....

Seriously angry complaining people about over everything in life....

Crazy!

They definitely need great fucking in their lives and quick!

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By *r easy1981Man
over a year ago

leeds

"Don’t wear a mask

Then you are a fool"
your the fool they don’t do shit

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

What's the hardship in continuing to wear a mask indoors if there is a solution to steamed up glasses? Open spaces can become confined quite quickly. Confined can also refer to poorly ventilated which is much harder to judge.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Don’t wear a mask

Then you are a fool your the fool they don’t do shit "

Really?

How does Covid-19 spread then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?"

'Can be' confined yes - but without talking to the person in question you spoke to. I'm afraid you're only presuming until they reply.....

Freedom of choice has now been given to all - so they're wishing to do as they please.

I doubt trying to shame them into using a mask will be worth your while typing it!

But if you have a cause to fulfill carry on.......

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By *r easy1981Man
over a year ago

leeds

"Don’t wear a mask

Then you are a fool your the fool they don’t do shit

Really?

How does Covid-19 spread then?"
you tell me but I no when you buy masks it’s say it does not stop COVID

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?"

Yes! Wore it near on a year for 8 hr shifts have the choice not to now so dont! And b 4 u say hospital staff wear them they knew they would wear them in some aspects of working in that environment! But in the supermarkets nope! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Has therw been that much in the way if studies on masks ? Best I saw was comparing areas in Dakota (I think).

With all this there is a degree of proportion and how much one does for the benegit of the greater good.

I'm also a little sceptical most masks actually did any good. They all seemed a bit cheap... You'd not want a surgeon wearing one !

However they did serve as a great reminder to be safe. That probably helped.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Has therw been that much in the way if studies on masks ? Best I saw was comparing areas in Dakota (I think).

With all this there is a degree of proportion and how much one does for the benegit of the greater good.

I'm also a little sceptical most masks actually did any good. They all seemed a bit cheap... You'd not want a surgeon wearing one !

However they did serve as a great reminder to be safe. That probably helped. "

There was a Danish study, but in an area with low prevalence and where the masked group didn't actually wear the masks, which a certain side always bring up as saying that masks don't work.

... It also didn't have sufficient statistical power to show what people claim.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

There are several videos that show how masks work, and why they are effective.

Here is on such example. https://youtu.be/DNeYfUTA11s

From watching this video you can clearly see that all types of masks offer some protection.

Cal

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?

'Can be' confined yes - but without talking to the person in question you spoke to. I'm afraid you're only presuming until they reply.....

Freedom of choice has now been given to all - so they're wishing to do as they please.

I doubt trying to shame them into using a mask will be worth your while typing it!

But if you have a cause to fulfill carry on......."

I am not shaming anyone.

I am inviting them, and you, to make a judgement.

I offered a suction to the problem that could modify that judgement.

Are you trying to "shame" me into not making a perfectly civil comment? If not, what do you believe you are you doing?

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe

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By *issIrishCoffeeWoman
over a year ago

Bristol

I wear them all the time no matter what

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By *mwirralMan
over a year ago

wirral

I continue to wear mine and avoid public transport where possible

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I'm replying to you and ignoring the OPs question..... Cos I'm allowed ...

Oh and I forgot to add - even most shops have relaxed the mask wearing! Do the businesses not care either, I wonder

“….. even most shops have relaxed the mask wearing!……”

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The shops are not ’relaxed’ about it; more like they don’t enforce it strongly since it’s not law anymore.

Most shops in my area do care, and they still have notices up recommending masks to be worn on the entry.

Same recommendation applies to use of masks on public transport in London.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am still wearing mine on public transport and in shops etc plus my job requires it

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Don’t wear a mask

Then you are a fool your the fool they don’t do shit

Really?

How does Covid-19 spread then? you tell me but I no when you buy masks it’s say it does not stop COVID "

There are lots and lots of studies that indicate that mask significantly reduce the spread of Covid-19.

Google the words "Covid mask study".

You can read the scientific papers.

Masks wearing is as much to protect other people as yourself. I assume that you know this. That part isa bout helping others.

No company will guarantee that you will not contract Covid-19 wearing a mask. Nkt even medical grade respirators. Even they rely on you wearing them properly. They help reduce risk of spread and contraction a lot.

You can choose "not to believe". That's fine. However, you can't claim that comes from the data.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Has therw been that much in the way if studies on masks ? Best I saw was comparing areas in Dakota (I think).

With all this there is a degree of proportion and how much one does for the benegit of the greater good.

I'm also a little sceptical most masks actually did any good. They all seemed a bit cheap... You'd not want a surgeon wearing one !

However they did serve as a great reminder to be safe. That probably helped. "

Have you Googled "covid mask study"?

It is much, much harder to find data to indicate that mask wearing is not helpful in significantly reducing the spread infection.

It's just a barrier to prevent fluid droplets and aerosol spray. It doesn't need to be expensive as long as it is a tightly woven material with several layers.

Have a look and decide for yourself.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?

I'm not comparing anyone to hospital staff. Why would I?

They know it helps prevent themselves and others from getting sick. Wearing medical great equipment for a shift was never an expectation.

If you are not wearing a mask because you don't want to is your choice. You are not claiming that they do not help prevent spread of the disease. You have just decided that the inconvenience to you takes precedence over the benefit to society.

Clear decision. Fine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Has therw been that much in the way if studies on masks ? Best I saw was comparing areas in Dakota (I think).

With all this there is a degree of proportion and how much one does for the benegit of the greater good.

I'm also a little sceptical most masks actually did any good. They all seemed a bit cheap... You'd not want a surgeon wearing one !

However they did serve as a great reminder to be safe. That probably helped.

Have you Googled "covid mask study"?

It is much, much harder to find data to indicate that mask wearing is not helpful in significantly reducing the spread infection.

It's just a barrier to prevent fluid droplets and aerosol spray. It doesn't need to be expensive as long as it is a tightly woven material with several layers.

Have a look and decide for yourself."

I have looked and I've not found anything really conclusive albeit I often rely on others with greater knowledge to provide sources. It's hard to distinguish if a study is looking at all masks, or just those that are of a certain standard.

I'm not a mask skeptic btw. However we should hold the science up to same analysis as we do anti vaxxers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?

'Can be' confined yes - but without talking to the person in question you spoke to. I'm afraid you're only presuming until they reply.....

Freedom of choice has now been given to all - so they're wishing to do as they please.

I doubt trying to shame them into using a mask will be worth your while typing it!

But if you have a cause to fulfill carry on.......

I am not shaming anyone.

I am inviting them, and you, to make a judgement.

I offered a suction to the problem that could modify that judgement.

Are you trying to "shame" me into not making a perfectly civil comment? If not, what do you believe you are you doing?"

Well your quote "are you prepared to potentially spread covid 19" and the follow up "balance that in your mind" didn't sit well with me as you conversed with another in the early hours.

Just a thought about the masks in supermarkets, as an example! I counted less than 5 people wearing them today and I was one. So it seems the majority won't be coerced into rethinking the mask situation.

Like I said in my original post, I don't understand, shall we say

'highlighting' it to those who don't want to wear one anymore! Their decision should be respected 18 months on and not (as it seems) to be forced, feel guilty, shamed into rethinking the decision they've made.

I hope I've expressed it better for you, without nastiness/malice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?"

I wouldn't mind, but half of these people who judge me for not wearing my mask in a big open space will happily sit down in a crowded pub, restaurant or bar without a mask.

As I said earlier, I will continue to wear my masks where it is required. I will also wear my masks in places where I will be up and close with anyone. I am vaccinated. I do not go out if I'm showing any signs of being unwell. I sanitise and clean my hands often.

You can judge all you want. I really don't care anymore. I'm not wearing a mask for the rest of my life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wearing a mask and using hand sanitizer going into busy places should become the norm in my opinion. Not just because of Covid but to stop the spread of other diseases such as flu or norovirus.

Wearing a mask is not a sign of oppression but a sign of respect to those around you. At least that is my opinion

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

The mask wearing isn’t for you. It’s for those around you.

It slows though breath / cough / sneeze so that if others are maintaining social distancing then they are relatively safe from infection if you are infected but asymptotic.

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

*slows down your breath / cough / sneeze

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

A mask isn't going to change someone's opinion whether shouting from the rooftop those who are willing to keep using one will and those who aren't won't this pandemic has only learned some people that some are just plain narrow minded.

Too be continued

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By *DW1983Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen, Leeds, Sheffield

I've carried on using one in indoor public places. I don't feel the need for myself but nor is it doing me any harm or causing problems apart from the occasional fogged glasses, and if it helps others feel safer about going out again then why not.

Obviously at some point it'll have to stop, and I'm sure there'll be lots of different views on that, but for now if its helping make other more vulnerable people feel better about going back into shops or getting on a bus then I can live with that.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I'm not wearing mine. I can't see because my glasses constantly steam up and I can't take my glasses off because I'm blind without them. I get so stressed over it.

I'll only be wearing it in small shops if I'm going to be up close and personal with other people.

You're prepared to potentially sprwad Covid-19 because your glasses steam up?

Balance that in your mind.

More helpfully, you can use a mask with a metal nose bridge that pulls your mask down and prevents spectacles from steaming up.

You can pull it out of an old disposable one and reuse for your cloth ones.

If it helps someone then why not wear a mask in a confined space? It will help reduce the spread of other illnesses too.

Well that person has said they're using it in small shops, so that's confined spaces I presume.

Crikey 18 months on and I wasn't expecting people bashing still over covid.....

Why are folk angry over folk these days.

It really is up to them how they conduct their lives!

Angry? No.

A little judgemental, perhaps, but as all the people I know in the NHS are still working flat out on Covid care my viewpoint may be skewed.

If it was a good idea before why not continue until hospital admissions do start to fall significantly? Is it really so difficult?

I'm not comparing anyone to hospital staff. Why would I?

They know it helps prevent themselves and others from getting sick. Wearing medical great equipment for a shift was never an expectation.

Clear decision. Fine."

Yup! I dont pretend like alot that I'm doing/not doing it for the greater good of others! And I was using the hospital staff as an example as that's what usually gets thrown at people! I work in a supermarket and all the while we not required to wear one I dont! Went on the train today and they require u to so I did! That said it's easy sat on a train wearing one ! But pushing a home shopping cart around a hot supermarket (our air con naff) at 64 picking 175 items an hour not even wearing my shorts is a different kettle of fish! X

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By *rgasmickMan
over a year ago

Visting

Never wear one, never use sanitizer, but wash my hands. Never tested and not jabbed.

Still alive and haven't been unwell.

Go figure.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Never wear one, never use sanitizer, but wash my hands. Never tested and not jabbed.

Still alive and haven't been unwell.

Go figure."

I had covid and didn't feel unwell. Luck of the draw perhaps, considering my many risk factors. Still not selfish enough to think my actions may not impact others.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Never wear one, never use sanitizer, but wash my hands. Never tested and not jabbed.

Still alive and haven't been unwell.

Go figure."

The whole point of the masks, distancing and sanitisation is to prevent you from passing it to other people. The fact that you are "still alive and haven't been unwell" is totally irrelevant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no evidence that wearing a bit of cloth over your mouth for 5 minutes while you're in a shop or when you're not sat at a table in a restaurant makes any difference to the spread of COVID. People are only still wearing them to virtue-signal or make themselves feel safer. If the vaccine works why do we need masks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

do you not trust the vaccine then?

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

"If the vaccine works why do we need masks?"

The vaccine gives your immune system a head start and helps prevent you from dying.

Have you not been paying attention?

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

"do you not trust the vaccine then?"

It is not I do not trust the vaccine (which may offer me up to 95% protection, maybe less with the Delta variant. It is more I do not trust people who say that if the vaccine works why wear a mask. It is this thinking that makes me feel a bit more uncomfortable. This is partly why I choose to wear a mask.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"There is no evidence that wearing a bit of cloth over your mouth for 5 minutes while you're in a shop or when you're not sat at a table in a restaurant makes any difference to the spread of COVID. People are only still wearing them to virtue-signal or make themselves feel safer. If the vaccine works why do we need masks?"

Personal choice is apparently sacrosanct. Please respect others and their personal choice to put cloth over their face

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By *edfleetMan
over a year ago

covent garden

Self responsibility and respect for others. Wear a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do respect others' personal choice - although I do find the sight of everyone in masks rather depressing and dystopian - just as the mask wearers should respect the choice of non-mask wearers rather than looking at us like we're walking around killing people by simply breathing. It's becoming a divisive, political symbol, it's like Brexit all over again.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I do respect others' personal choice - although I do find the sight of everyone in masks rather depressing and dystopian - just as the mask wearers should respect the choice of non-mask wearers rather than looking at us like we're walking around killing people by simply breathing. It's becoming a divisive, political symbol, it's like Brexit all over again."

Yup agreed! X

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I assume that those not wearing masks are unable to and give them wide berth. As I've done throughout.

I see my mask as keeping my germs to myself. If you want to see it as a symbol of division, I'm afraid that isn't my problem and you should be less sensitive.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Wear a mask

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think anyone enjoys the changes to the country since last March? The things we've gone without, the people we couldn't see, our kids unable to attend school? You ask for others to respect your choice yet also say we are doing it to virtue signal or "feel safe". The respect goes both ways you know.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Yes. My face, my choice. I want this suffering to end, and my mask is not a symbol or a game. It's my way to minimise any harm I cause.

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By *xposedInTheSunCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

"just as the mask wearers should respect the choice of non-mask wearers rather than looking at us like we're walking around killing people by simply breathing."

The problem is that that's exactly what you're doing.

The latest research shows that the vaccines are about 75% effective against the Delta variant, so you can still catch it. And if you do catch it the viral load appears to be about the same as if you're unvaccinated, so you can probably give it to others.

More research may provide more information, but for the moment play safe and wear a mask.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"just as the mask wearers should respect the choice of non-mask wearers rather than looking at us like we're walking around killing people by simply breathing.

The problem is that that's exactly what you're doing.

More research may provide more information, but for the moment play safe and wear a mask."

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly? "

Selfish iyo! Allways respect peoples choices!because it is just that their choice ! Give up with the selfish slinging!!do u think by saying people are selfish its gonna make them change their minds some stranger on the internet telling people they selfish?

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

Yes this makes me mad. People make selfish choices all of the time and just because this particular choice is so publicly visible people turn into absolute hypocrites in an instant. I wonder how many of these people are still sitting at hoke and not going out unless essential? Which is a much better protection than a mask. I bet not a fat lot! Hypocrites and they don’t even know it

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Home*

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Wear one if you want.

Don’t wear one if you want.

Either is fine. The beauty of free choice.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth. "

I wear a mask when necessary. But if you go outside for anything other than for essential reasons and then slag someone off for not wearing a mask then you are a hypocrite. There are no two ways about it. If you deem your level of acceptable risk to be ok and someone else’s to be selfish then you’re a hypocrite.

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth. "

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites. "

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

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over a year ago

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I am double vaccinated and I am currently in isolation due to a positive test. Thankfully I have been nowhere near severe enough to need medical atention and neither had my daughter who has it too.

We always where a mask when in the shops etc. And at the moment I don't work so not really going that far. Absolutely no idea where I picked it up from and I guess I'll never know.

A friend of mine is suffering from a chest infection as a result of covid but he had only just had his 2nd days before the positive test.

Covid will end up becoming like the flu and as long as we continue to vaccinate the vulnerable like we do with the flu then we need to try and get back to at least 90% of what we were or we will live in fear of this forever.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I am double vaccinated and I am currently in isolation due to a positive test. Thankfully I have been nowhere near severe enough to need medical atention and neither had my daughter who has it too.

We always where a mask when in the shops etc. And at the moment I don't work so not really going that far. Absolutely no idea where I picked it up from and I guess I'll never know.

A friend of mine is suffering from a chest infection as a result of covid but he had only just had his 2nd days before the positive test.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Are masks effective? Very questionable. Maybe they can limit the number of bacteria, but won't stop.

Do we wear them? Yes, in the shops, etc.

I am double vaccinated and I am currently in isolation due to a positive test. Thankfully I have been nowhere near severe enough to need medical atention and neither had my daughter who has it too.

We always where a mask when in the shops etc. And at the moment I don't work so not really going that far. Absolutely no idea where I picked it up from and I guess I'll never know.

A friend of mine is suffering from a chest infection as a result of covid but he had only just had his 2nd days before the positive test.

Wishing you a speedy recovery xx

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By *amyam5627Man
over a year ago

Swadlincote

I’m still wearing one at work (retail) and if a customer asks if we want them to wear one, we answer yes if they don’t mind.

As a company we all made the decision that we wear masks on the shop floor when customers are in, as we deal with a lot of people from different areas.

It’s also about protecting customers as well.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites. "

It's pretty damn easy for anybody to understand unless they have zero empathy and social responsibility.

Society has to continue to operate somehow.

Vulnerable people need protecting somehow.

The spread of a dangerous disease needs controlling somehow.

There is no perfect way of doing all of these. However, there are a few very simple things that can be done, that require minimal effort but result in at least partial benefit to all of society. One of these is mask wearing when in public places with other people. Nobody is telling anyone to wear a mask in their own home, their car, their garden, when they are outside with nobody else around, when they are just with members of their immediate family or social bubble. But what is being asked is that would people who CAN wear a mask, PLEASE wear one when they are in any sort of crowded situation where they are within breathing distance of somebody else. It's not expected to be a 100% bulletproof forcefield stopping any transmission of this virus, but if it's even a little bit effective then it's better than nothing. If it reduces transmission by only 10%, that's 10% less spread of this disease than there would be. Which is less people dying than there would be.

Another very simple thing that can be done is just don't stand so close to people you don't know. It's not hard. It doesn't cause you any pain to be a couple of metres away from someone that you don't even know, and that doesn't want to be next to you. It's not going to be 100% effective at stopping the virus jumping from you to them, or from them to you, but if it even reduces the transmission by only 10%, hey it's another 10% less spread of the disease. Which is less people dying. For literally no cost.

Another thing is washing hands. Now this one should be easy. Hell we should have been doing this all our lives, they teach us this one at infant school. Don't touch other people or stuff that other people have to handle, when your mitts are filthy. Nobody is saying they have to be sterilised in boiling water or acid or whatever. But just try to have them a bit cleaner on average. Maybe it'll give another 10%. I don't hold out much hope for this one though, Christ the number of people you see using public toilets and they come out without the tiniest effort to dabble their fingers under the tap, even when they've been taking a shit...

Three things. Three dead easy things. They aren't going to stop covid dead. But together maybe they add up to 30% reduction in the transmission. Which isn't a lot. Except 30% of 130 thousand dead people is very nearly 40 thousand people fewer dead. Which when I put it that way, hey 30% is a pretty big deal. There's 40 thousand people that would have been very grateful for a few more people wearing masks, keeping distance and washing their hands.

But when someone says "I will not wear a mask" - not "I cannot wear a mask", but "will not" - that tells me that they will not take even a tiny bit of inconvenience in order to save lives. When they say "you can't make me keep my distance", "I don't want to wash my hands" - it's not me that is accusing them of killing people by breathing, it is they themselves who are making the statement "I don't care if my behaviour causes people to die, I don't feel any responsibility towards the good of society, if it doesn't immediately benefit me, then I'm not going to do it". There is a word for people like that. Selfish.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

It's pretty damn easy for anybody to understand unless they have zero empathy and social responsibility.

Society has to continue to operate somehow.

Vulnerable people need protecting somehow.

The spread of a dangerous disease needs controlling somehow.

Hand washing and distancing are simple. (Doubt handwashing has much effect against Covid, but hey. Easy). Nothing to lose.

Masks are unnatural, horrible, and unnecessary. Not happening any more.

All this virtue signalling about non-wearers being selfish is rubbish. Masks are now in a minority everywhere thank goodness.

Do you expect people to wear masks forever? This isn't going away - everyone will catch it.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

Do us a favour love, don’t tell people what to do.

Wear one if you want to, don’t wear one if you don’t want to. Each to their own.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Has therw been that much in the way if studies on masks ? Best I saw was comparing areas in Dakota (I think).

With all this there is a degree of proportion and how much one does for the benegit of the greater good.

I'm also a little sceptical most masks actually did any good. They all seemed a bit cheap... You'd not want a surgeon wearing one !

However they did serve as a great reminder to be safe. That probably helped.

Have you Googled "covid mask study"?

It is much, much harder to find data to indicate that mask wearing is not helpful in significantly reducing the spread infection.

It's just a barrier to prevent fluid droplets and aerosol spray. It doesn't need to be expensive as long as it is a tightly woven material with several layers.

Have a look and decide for yourself.

I'm not a mask skeptic btw. However we should hold the science up to same analysis as we do anti vaxxers. "

You have found nothing "really conclusive". How would you define that?

Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

Do us a favour love, don’t tell people what to do.

Wear one if you want to, don’t wear one if you don’t want to. Each to their own."

Tell you what love, don't tell people what to do.

Drink and drive if you want to. Don't if you don't want to. Each to their own

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

It's pretty damn easy for anybody to understand unless they have zero empathy and social responsibility.

Society has to continue to operate somehow.

Vulnerable people need protecting somehow.

The spread of a dangerous disease needs controlling somehow.

Hand washing and distancing are simple. (Doubt handwashing has much effect against Covid, but hey. Easy). Nothing to lose.

Masks are unnatural, horrible, and unnecessary. Not happening any more.

All this virtue signalling about non-wearers being selfish is rubbish. Masks are now in a minority everywhere thank goodness.

Do you expect people to wear masks forever? This isn't going away - everyone will catch it."

Does the mask wasky itch your face wasey?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

There is no longer a legal requirement to wear a face mask.

That is not the same as saying don't bother.

This is the current UK Government advice.

"The reason for using face coverings

When someone with COVID-19 breathes, speaks, coughs or sneezes, they release particles (droplets and aerosols) which may contain the virus that causes COVID-19. These particles can be breathed in by another person.

Surfaces and belongings can also be contaminated with COVID-19 when people who are infected cough or sneeze near them, or if they touch them after coughing or sneezing onto their hands.

By covering your nose and mouth with a face covering, you’ll reduce the spread of droplets and aerosols carrying the virus by limiting the amount of the virus being released when you talk and breathe, helping to protect others.

It is important to follow all the other government advice on COVID-19.

You and your household should self-isolate at home If you develop any of the most important symptoms:

a new continuous cough

a high temperature

a loss of, or change in, your normal sense of smell or taste (anosmia)

You should arrange to have a PCR test to check for COVID-19. Wearing a face covering does not change this.

If your test is positive, you must self-isolate until 10 days after the day on which you first developed symptoms.

When you should wear a face covering

From 19 July 2021, there is no longer a legal requirement to wear face coverings in indoor settings or on public transport.

Lifting restrictions does not mean the risks from COVID-19 have disappeared, but at this new phase of the pandemic response we are moving to an approach that enables personal risk-based judgments.

While no situation is risk free, there are actions we can take to protect ourselves and others around us.

We expect and recommend that members of the public continue to wear face coverings in crowded and enclosed spaces where you come into contact with people you don’t normally meet. For example, on public transport.

You should use your judgement in deciding where you should wear one. Businesses, including transport operators, can also ask their employees and customers to wear face coverings. You should check with operators of services, venues, and settings that you use."

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

It's pretty damn easy for anybody to understand unless they have zero empathy and social responsibility.

Society has to continue to operate somehow.

Vulnerable people need protecting somehow.

The spread of a dangerous disease needs controlling somehow.

Hand washing and distancing are simple. (Doubt handwashing has much effect against Covid, but hey. Easy). Nothing to lose.

Masks are unnatural, horrible, and unnecessary. Not happening any more.

All this virtue signalling about non-wearers being selfish is rubbish. Masks are now in a minority everywhere thank goodness.

Do you expect people to wear masks forever? This isn't going away - everyone will catch it.

Does the mask wasky itch your face wasey?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

It's pretty damn easy for anybody to understand unless they have zero empathy and social responsibility.

Society has to continue to operate somehow.

Vulnerable people need protecting somehow.

The spread of a dangerous disease needs controlling somehow.

Hand washing and distancing are simple. (Doubt handwashing has much effect against Covid, but hey. Easy). Nothing to lose.

Masks are unnatural, horrible, and unnecessary. Not happening any more.

All this virtue signalling about non-wearers being selfish is rubbish. Masks are now in a minority everywhere thank goodness.

Do you expect people to wear masks forever? This isn't going away - everyone will catch it.

Does the mask wasky itch your face wasey?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From 19 July 2021, there is no longer a legal requirement to wear face coverings in indoor settings or on public transport.

Only applies to England. Wales, Scotland and NI all have different laws when it comes to where and when to mask up.

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By *ark Knight 2017Man
over a year ago

Ware

Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out. "

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this? "

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Been said before but seen it again just now...

IF YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR A MASK COVER YOUR FUCKING NOSE AS WELL AS YOUR MOUTH!!!!

It isn’t a hard concept. Why are people so fucking thick?

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By *itzi999Woman
over a year ago

Slough

"I don't very often unless it's somewhere really busy. I'm sceptical they help outside a medical environment where they're thrown away more regular and not reused."

As it is not the law to wear one, and being double vaxxed, no.,

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

I didn’t say people couldn’t have opinions on masks. I’m not sure how often I can say this to you my dear but learn to read! You constantly reply to my comments without any actual comprehension of what I’ve said.

I do NOT like people who have the nerve to call other people selfish based on their level of acceptable risk because it doesn’t match your (the collective your) level of acceptable risk.

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By *rMrsRichCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouh

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

Do us a favour love, don’t tell people what to do.

Wear one if you want to, don’t wear one if you don’t want to. Each to their own."

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By *arkandjaneCouple
over a year ago

Lancaster

"I don't think wearing a mask is necessarily about protecting yourself. It's about protecting others from anything you might be carrying. I hate wearing my mask around the supermarkets and shops but I still do. "

As you say it is about you spreading it to others, masks are much less effective when breathing in.

When I see people wearing a mask now I keep away from them, thinking perhaps they have something, lol

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Why should selfish choices be respected, exactly?

If risk mitigation upsets you, don't look

If imperfect protection upsets you, then you'll need to give up a lot of things.

Gosh. People are so sensitive, reading hypocrisy and even erosion of civility into some simple cloth.

Honestly if you could read then this would be so much easier. Risk mitigation doesn’t upset me. Hypocrisy does.

People who continue to leave their homes (despite staying indoors being THE absolute best protection against Covid) who slag people off for not wearing masks are hypocrites.

So unless people who want to protect each other go under house arrest forever, risk losing their jobs, their homes, being unable to feed themselves, we're not allowed to have opinions on masks?

You are funny

Ok. I'm a hypocrite in the eyes of people who think like that. I can live with that.

Do us a favour, love, be sure to wear your mask to protect other people

Do us a favour love, don’t tell people what to do.

Wear one if you want to, don’t wear one if you don’t want to. Each to their own.

Tell you what love, don't tell people what to do.

Drink and drive if you want to. Don't if you don't want to. Each to their own

Drink driving is illegal. Not wearing a mask isn’t illegal.

Can’t believe I had to explain that crucial difference.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted."

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

"Allways respect peoples choices! "

Well, no. I won't. 'choice' isn't a magic word that makes everything OK, as much as some people wish it was.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People who have appropriate empathy and care for others, as well as some common sense and wanting to help the NHS backlog get cleared, with services more readily available to people who have cancer etc, will be wearing masks of course, if they can.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Allways respect peoples choices!

Well, no. I won't. 'choice' isn't a magic word that makes everything OK, as much as some people wish it was.

I respect other people's right to make choices.

That doesn't mean I regard their choices as being worthy of respect.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"People who have appropriate empathy and care for others, as well as some common sense and wanting to help the NHS backlog get cleared, with services more readily available to people who have cancer etc, will be wearing masks of course, if they can. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

I just stick with peer-reviewed evidence in the recognised literature, as reddit and other open fora are equally open to the disreputable viewpoints, as the credible literature is closed to anything but the scientific method and those with appropriate expertise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out. "
I would agree; and your typical mask is made of polypropylene; so there is a risk of breathing some microplastic fibres into your lungs causing other health issues - but your choice at the end of the day but they cause more harm than good.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Shit.

Is that how you put them on.

That must be why women have laughed at me when I walk into the bedroom for all these years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

That subreddit has a lot of links to peer reviewed papers (and pre prints if imagine) and seems to be well policed for that.

It's worth a look. And has intersting discussion.

Eg is there evidence to show masks help reduce spread on asymptomatic carriers.

I agree with your view. However I don't have time for complete literture reviews and so there is always a risk I search for papers that confirm my view.

To quote part of the pnas paper

Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. ...there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, ..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

That subreddit has a lot of links to peer reviewed papers (and pre prints if imagine) and seems to be well policed for that.

It's worth a look. And has intersting discussion.

Eg is there evidence to show masks help reduce spread on asymptomatic carriers.

I agree with your view. However I don't have time for complete literture reviews and so there is always a risk I search for papers that confirm my view.

To quote part of the pnas paper

Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. ...there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, ..

Good explanation and feedback. With mask wearing and cost being so insignificant, it seems that the wise choice is to use them, whilst the evidence is this supportive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

That subreddit has a lot of links to peer reviewed papers (and pre prints if imagine) and seems to be well policed for that.

It's worth a look. And has intersting discussion.

Eg is there evidence to show masks help reduce spread on asymptomatic carriers.

I agree with your view. However I don't have time for complete literture reviews and so there is always a risk I search for papers that confirm my view.

To quote part of the pnas paper

Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. ...there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, ..

Good explanation and feedback. With mask wearing and cost being so insignificant, it seems that the wise choice is to use them, whilst the evidence is this supportive. "

My only argument against the insignificant cost is an environment one.

Although im still not sure I've seen the supportive evidence for masks being significantly effective on asymptomatic cases. Many studies seem to involve coughing. May easily have missed it in... As I said, there are a lot of studies ti digest !

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Allways respect peoples choices!

Well, no. I won't. 'choice' isn't a magic word that makes everything OK, as much as some people wish it was.

Well yes I shall! X

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Like using chicken wire to keep mosquitos out.

No, it really is not.

Read an actual study rather than a YouTube rant from someone unqualified:Search for "PNAS An evidence review of face masks against Covid-19"

What do you disagree about this?

That report is discredited bias.

The conclusion is tiny, fled with words such as 'could', 'may' and 'if' and clearly has an agenda as talks about the economical benefit to the US if it's recommendedations are adopted.

Really? Read many scientific studies have you?

Read a few more on other topics and you will find that would and could are used widely because science always allows the possibility of error.

This report is discredited by whom? You? Another random punter on YouTube?

Can't find anything discrediting it but you may find this discussion interesting different views are covered.

https://amp.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/kw2xb4/an_evidence_review_of_face_masks_against_covid19/

That subreddit has a lot of links to peer reviewed papers (and pre prints if imagine) and seems to be well policed for that.

It's worth a look. And has intersting discussion.

Eg is there evidence to show masks help reduce spread on asymptomatic carriers.

I agree with your view. However I don't have time for complete literture reviews and so there is always a risk I search for papers that confirm my view.

To quote part of the pnas paper

Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive. ...there are no RCTs, only one observational trial, and unclear evidence from other respiratory illnesses, ..

Good explanation and feedback. With mask wearing and cost being so insignificant, it seems that the wise choice is to use them, whilst the evidence is this supportive.

My only argument against the insignificant cost is an environment one.

It's why I only wear reusable unless I have no choice (medical setting). They just go in the wash

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any proof of that claim?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

True but not wearing one suggest the non wearer is a selfish ??

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Still wearing mine.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Still wearing mine. In fact I love wearing mine.

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By *aked2sumCouple
over a year ago

local

"True but not wearing one suggest the non wearer is a selfish ??"

It’s not selfish it’s personal choice I choose not to wear a mask while my wife chooses to wear one . If you see me with no mask and don’t like it keep your distance that simple . If I’m honest I think it’s all Bollocks but that’s just my opinion and I’m not knocking anyone for having their own

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"True but not wearing one suggest the non wearer is a selfish ??"

The government advice is that you should continue to wear a mask to protect other people.

If someone chooses, freely, not to for their own benefit then what is your interpretation of the action?

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

in the words of the great yellow skinned american philosopher H J Simpson

"your boring, why do you have to be so boring? Quit boring Everybody"

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By *aussageMan
over a year ago

Stalbridge

Surgical masks do nothing, so it doesn't matter if you wear one or not.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Surgical masks do nothing, so it doesn't matter if you wear one or not."

If the experts are right, masks help reduce the disease, which means that I might help save lives.

If the experts are wrong I have some cloth on my face.

I don't see it as a burden or an imposition. Even if it turns out to be useless (hint: this isn't so), I've tried to help. Which is the very least I can do during an international health crisis.

Anyone who thinks it's mind control or a muzzle or it stops people being free should probably work out more or eat spinach, if they're made so feeble by a scrap of fabric.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"True but not wearing one suggest the non wearer is a selfish ??

The government advice is that you should continue to wear a mask to protect other people.

If someone chooses, freely, not to for their own benefit then what is your interpretation of the action?"

I'm the biggest selfish c**t that walked the earth! Pmsl!

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"True but not wearing one suggest the non wearer is a selfish ??

The government advice is that you should continue to wear a mask to protect other people.

If someone chooses, freely, not to for their own benefit then what is your interpretation of the action?

I'm the biggest selfish c**t that walked the earth! Pmsl!

Joke if you like, but the official position is as I stated.

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By *traight_no_iceMan
over a year ago

Stoke

The signs of wearing a mask are still on display on the supermarket windows. Even though masks are not compulsory, I believe not wearing a mask inside is selfish. If not for the fellow shoppers, at least for the comfort of the supermarket workers.

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