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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() Is double vaxxed an insult or something? ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hey this isn't about vax or not vax this is something different.. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course i am im not stupid. ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ofcourse im not am i stupid* ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Agreed. The French authorities seem to be upholding their laws. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What makes you think that? | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Your choice mate you make your own mind up. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The way you say it after disagreeing with someone. Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The way i say it? its written words ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So, you could say they’re just following orders? | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ?" that your double jabbed | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed" triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones. Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous. | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed" yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. " And hospitals, dentists the list will grow. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Another vaxxed person blinded to it all lol ![]() | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess" Well ive had 2 of the AZ and trails are saying so far that you may not need a 3rd with that one but may well do with the others. But yes i would be happy anyway having another one i have a flu one every year why not? | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too." Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right. | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. And hospitals, dentists the list will grow." They dont get it lol everything is random events to them they cant link this with the bigger picture... | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too." Should probably check a few more papers en route to calais... | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning." Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law. Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte ![]() | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument" What is it that you are actually scared of the needle? | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Glad you can find humour in it. For now. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people... Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events? | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. And hospitals, dentists the list will grow. They dont get it lol everything is random events to them they cant link this with the bigger picture..." I am not going to France anytime soon, so I don't give a fuck what happens there. I have mates who live there, they tell me how things are when we chat to each other. He prefers how France dealt with it, to the fuck up england made of covid. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What exactly cant you do now in the uk that you could before the pandemic? | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ^selfish | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Work freely in the EU without needing a visa *Hides* | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic? | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Interesting Should we say nothing about Sharia law and the stoning of individuals or people like me being thrown off buildings. Cos you know, it's their laws. Or the multitude of countries that have laws we dislike? So, you could say the Stazi are just following orders. You know just like the KGB, Gestapo or The Securitate. Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?" Yeah, I get it. You're adding two plus two and somehow getting aubergine. Climate change has been a known phenomena for all of my life Public health restrictions have existed for hundreds of years. Of course, they must be a new terrible conspiracy rather than... readily explicable ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Get a doctors appointment. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I would talk to your gp as no problem here, i cant see anywhere where the government have said you cant see a doctor so no they havnt taken that away from us. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You should try our doctors…it’s a joke | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The conversation was about using the pandemic for the government to take powers from the people and not give them back . | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Take my family swimming without having to book. Attend all our support groups as they're still not running. Go into the kids schools to talk to staff. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() Just remind me which European country has the highest covid death toll ! | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Is this law then or just guidance that they are following for now? | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Say the word ivermectin | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() Who knows with the different ways they are counted but i would hazard a guess they will all come out about equal but going by world meter Hungary followed by Belgium deaths per 1m of the population. | |||
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"How different is this to checking IDs in a bar? " That's why this is so terrifying..it's just a progression of rules that have come before..it's logical,it's just obeying rules. | |||
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"Looks like I need a trip to Tesco for more tinfoil tomorrow" Hey get some non stick oven paper while your at it ?? | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?" How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years? | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ?" Making sure nobody has an edition of the sun...... | |||
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"How different is this to checking IDs in a bar? " Because IDs aren't medical information and there shouldn't be any restrictions on visiting a cafe. | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument" Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system... | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now? How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?" for 30 years?...so its a cycle ![]() ![]() | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system..." Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you. | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system... Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you." Which is exactly what they want you to think ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() Why? I am happy to show my vaccination card. Like my passport at frontiers, my driving licence if stopped in my car, my plane ticket, my train ticket, my theatre ticket, my qualifications certificates when I seek a job , etc etc. What is so bad about a vaccine card? Now if it was my chlamydia test result .... ![]() | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system... Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you." You still haven't told me what rights that you claim have been taken away you dont have now since the pandemic. ![]() | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now? How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years? for 30 years?...so its a cycle ![]() ![]() So you are saying that every 30 years Greece will have a summer of higher heat and dryness and that the new world order knew this and planned this climate report to coincide with this summer ![]() | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now? How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years? for 30 years?...so its a cycle ![]() ![]() ![]() Who are these new world order? | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess" and imagine you don’t get your triple jab straight away you have to wait maybe 6 weeks and for those 6 weeks your freedoms will be removed from you. | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now? How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years? for 30 years?...so its a cycle ![]() ![]() ![]() No bloody idea but I have heard from people on here that there is one. However even though they know there is one, they can never name anyone leading it ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Is it fun seeing a troll under every bridge? Maybe try bringing a little light to the world rather than spreading conspiracies with no proof other than you saying how obvious it is! | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You’ve just said it, and yes we’re all laughing at how gullible you are. | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess" Absolutely. Drugs, medication, boosters, bring them on. ![]() | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What power have we lost that we had even 5 years ago? There is no dictatorship. People are too easily swayed by the media, which used to be journalism. | |||
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"Good job we live in the UK then. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You’ll find that the vast majority of issues with any aspect of the health service, including reduced capacity relating to the pandemic, existed before the pandemic as they are directly caused by the Conservative defunding and mismanagement of the NHS (and everything else) since 2010. | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument" Linking all of what together? E | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?" I know that when there is a sustained dry spell things catch fire more easily. I know that fuckwits deliberately start fires in dry areas. Is it some sort of global conspiracy to do with climate change? No, it's fuckwits deliberately starting fires. E | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now? How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years? for 30 years?...so its a cycle ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It's my uncle Frank and his dominoes club... They run it from the Kings head. They get a bit larey when they've had a few brandies and stick pins in the world map to decide which natural disaster they are going to inflict next. I'll put in a word and see if they can give it a rest for a few months. | |||
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"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. " Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it. | |||
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"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it." No. It wasn't. | |||
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"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue. I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution. ![]() I have long thought that the French are among the least governable people in Europe...1789,1989.... The closest we have got to French-style civil disorder was probably during the 1970s and then the "poll-tax" riots, but they occurred in relatively tight areas....in France, things seem to go national more easily. | |||
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"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it." When they start torching buildings that demand compliance we are in trouble.... (pause there for a moments thought)... | |||
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"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it." What papers did people have to carry? I'm not sure, and there's some implication this is a trope. | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?" bravo media scare to help dicktatership | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership" Project fear: 1) Brexit 2) Vaccines 3) Climate change Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative. There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership Project fear: 1) Brexit 2) Vaccines 3) Climate change Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative. There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise" Makes you wonder what the west mids had against Europe. | |||
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"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it. When they start torching buildings that demand compliance we are in trouble.... (pause there for a moments thought)... " Yes and I also like this saying "dont take your freedom for granted". | |||
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"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue. I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution. ![]() Like the Yellow Vest protests? The French do seem a lot more willing to stand up for things than the English. | |||
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"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue. I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution. ![]() I dunno .. we had plenty of protests recently too. The yellow vests were more, how can I say, media interesting, and also more regular, so stick. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. " I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level." Totally agree. Medical segregation… ugh! Disgusting, and makes me cringe that some support this. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level." I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried." “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross." Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross." Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious " It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile." I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() Oh I do see the bigger picture. And I see the lies being spun to make it look like a conspiracy. Hmm. Yeah, I think I should pay attention to more important things. Off to clip my toenails | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’ ![]() | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() You clearly don’t see the bigger picture. One day it may be you coerced into something with the threat of your freedoms removed. Enjoy clipping your toe nails, I guess it’s a change from talking about covid all day every day on here. I’d get out a bit if I were you. Life is too short. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() ![]() Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab. If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out. | |||
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"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities. The military were following orders. the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history." Indeed. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() ![]() https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() ![]() https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx | |||
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"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities. The military were following orders. the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ... They were a legitimately elected political party. Now that scares the beejezus out if me. Tories or Nazis ? (I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)" Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() ![]() “ Misconceptions about COVID-19 vaccines abound. Some common ones: If you’ve had COVID-19, you don’t need the vaccine. Wrong. It’s better get naturally infected than to get vaccinated. Wrong.” | |||
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"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities. The military were following orders. the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ... They were a legitimately elected political party. Now that scares the beejezus out if me. Tories or Nazis ? (I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin) Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating. " It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response. | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile. One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture. You support medical segregation. Which is vile. I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care ![]() ![]() Do you mean previous infection? How is this measured? After a few monthe post infection there wont just be random atibodies floating around to measure that | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership Project fear: 1) Brexit 2) Vaccines 3) Climate change Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative. There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise" Essentially that is complete and utter tosh (I could say something stronger, but it would get me banned) The last post contains as much credibility as the earlier one....frankly, I don't even know why I am bothering to comment on their asinine opinions....their sort are beyond reasoning with! | |||
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"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. And hospitals, dentists the list will grow." Awesome! | |||
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" Let me spell it out for you I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer. I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level. I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way. Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried. “The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross. Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent. You do realise that you can still catch it from vaccinated persons at these private businesses you frequent? The primary purpose of the vaccine is to take the sting out of it should you catch it." Well yes. But the vaccine also reduces likelihood of transmission. Its about probabilities. | |||
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"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson) were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time? If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world. Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership Project fear: 1) Brexit 2) Vaccines 3) Climate change Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative. There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise Essentially that is complete and utter tosh (I could say something stronger, but it would get me banned) The last post contains as much credibility as the earlier one....frankly, I don't even know why I am bothering to comment on their asinine opinions....their sort are beyond reasoning with!" The stats are all true. Anti vaxers are more likely to vote conservative, have a strong disgust reflex, be less open minded but high in conscientiousness. They are also likely to be lower in IQ and less likely to hold a higher level qualification (Level 5 or above). | |||
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"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population. Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government. I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality. I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept." 100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war. This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters. The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon. Worryingly. | |||
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"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population. Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government. I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality. I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept. 100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war. This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters. The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon. Worryingly." There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part. | |||
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"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population. Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government. I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality. I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept. 100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war. This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters. The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon. Worryingly." I am observing albeit from afar for the moment having fled Paris amidst the gilet jaunes. (Not literally fled but thought it wiser to work from the UK or Germany) and yes, I am concerned. I am also concerned about the unrest in other European countries, Germany may seem peaceful but there is a strong resistance which is growing by the day. Elections a few weeks away may see a horrible swing towards the more extreme parties. Unrest seems to be growing. | |||
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"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population. Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government. I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality. I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept. 100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war. This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters. The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon. Worryingly. There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part." Marie Le Pen AND Macron were seeing voters move in the first round of regional elections. And... lowest voter turnout which suggests apathy or simply not knowing what to vote for? | |||
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"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population. Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government. I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality. I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept. 100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war. This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters. The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon. Worryingly. There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part.Marie Le Pen AND Macron were seeing voters move in the first round of regional elections. And... lowest voter turnout which suggests apathy or simply not knowing what to vote for? " * voters move away from their parties | |||
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"So it's come to this.. I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too. Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter. The French have been strict since the beginning. Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument" Link all of what together? Bill Gates and the lizard people taking over by injecting us with 5g chips....? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Where, oh where did subtlety go? This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler! ![]() | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() I agree! I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() Absolutely. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber. Grow up. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah. Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() I think the issue was less about restrictions (I would prefer them not to come back) but more with the analogy to Hitler that caused offense, in all fairness. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() Those who reference nazis are not talking about gas chambers. Do some think that was all the nazis we’re about? Lol. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Hitler was an authoritarian. That is where the comparison comes from. Not gas chambers. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Sure understand. But can you see that the comparison might cause genuine offense? | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() Those who are happy with medical segregation sicken me. Disgusting. Vile. Like all segregation. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() Not unless someone specifically mentioned gas chambers. Nazis were authoritarian. That was the comparison. | |||
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"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK ![]() ![]() I agree with the last statement - I do not like the idea of segregation one little bit. | |||
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