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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

portslade

So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Good job we live in the UK then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep and soon theyll be out of date with their vaccines when the boosters are rolled out lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then. "

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely "

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East

Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

What papers are the Police checking ?

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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

portslade


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something? "

Hey this isn't about vax or not vax this is something different..

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely "

Of course i am im not stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely Of course i am im not stupid. "

Ofcourse im not am i stupid*

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

Hey this isn't about vax or not vax this is something different.."

Agreed.

The French authorities seem to be upholding their laws.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something? "

What makes you think that?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely Of course i am im not stupid.

Ofcourse im not am i stupid* "

Your choice mate you make your own mind up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?"

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws."

The way i say it? its written words

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws."

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue.

I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"What papers are the Police checking ?"
that your double jabbed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed"

triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders? "

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed"
yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings. "

And hospitals, dentists the list will grow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous."

Another vaxxed person blinded to it all lol

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed

triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess"

Well ive had 2 of the AZ and trails are saying so far that you may not need a 3rd with that one but may well do with the others. But yes i would be happy anyway having another one i have a flu one every year why not?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too."

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous."

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings.

And hospitals, dentists the list will grow."

They dont get it lol everything is random events to them they cant link this with the bigger picture...

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too."

Should probably check a few more papers en route to calais...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning."

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right. "

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument"

What is it that you are actually scared of the needle?

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By *an JuniperoCouple
over a year ago

North East


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte "

Glad you can find humour in it. For now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte "

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings.

And hospitals, dentists the list will grow.

They dont get it lol everything is random events to them they cant link this with the bigger picture..."

I am not going to France anytime soon, so I don't give a fuck what happens there. I have mates who live there, they tell me how things are when we chat to each other. He prefers how France dealt with it, to the fuck up england made of covid.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Viva la revolution.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?"

What exactly cant you do now in the uk that you could before the pandemic?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

"

^selfish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?What exactly cant you do now in the uk that you could before the pandemic?"

Work freely in the EU without needing a visa

*Hides*

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

"

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

We can’t even pick up PCR tests and the Police don’t have enough numbers to attend burglaries.

We are a long way off from doing this chill

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous."

Interesting

Should we say nothing about Sharia law and the stoning of individuals or people like me being thrown off buildings. Cos you know, it's their laws. Or the multitude of countries that have laws we dislike?

So, you could say the Stazi are just following orders. You know just like the KGB, Gestapo or The Securitate.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?"

Yeah, I get it. You're adding two plus two and somehow getting aubergine.

Climate change has been a known phenomena for all of my life

Public health restrictions have existed for hundreds of years.

Of course, they must be a new terrible conspiracy rather than... readily explicable

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?"

Get a doctors appointment.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

"

I would talk to your gp as no problem here, i cant see anywhere where the government have said you cant see a doctor so no they havnt taken that away from us.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

I would talk to your gp as no problem here, i cant see anywhere where the government have said you cant see a doctor so no they havnt taken that away from us."

You should try our doctors…it’s a joke

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

I would talk to your gp as no problem here, i cant see anywhere where the government have said you cant see a doctor so no they havnt taken that away from us.

You should try our doctors…it’s a joke "

The conversation was about using the pandemic for the government to take powers from the people and not give them back .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?"

Take my family swimming without having to book.

Attend all our support groups as they're still not running.

Go into the kids schools to talk to staff.

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By *ucianpoundCouple
over a year ago

Cap d’Agde, France


"Good job we live in the UK then. "

Just remind me which European country has the highest covid death toll !

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Take my family swimming without having to book.

Attend all our support groups as they're still not running.

Go into the kids schools to talk to staff.

"

Is this law then or just guidance that they are following for now?

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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

portslade


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

"

Say the word ivermectin

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Just remind me which European country has the highest covid death toll !"

Who knows with the different ways they are counted but i would hazard a guess they will all come out about equal but going by world meter Hungary followed by Belgium deaths per 1m of the population.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How different is this to checking IDs in a bar?

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By *I TwoCouple
over a year ago

PDI 12-26th Nov 24

Looks like I need a trip to Tesco for more tinfoil tomorrow

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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

portslade


"How different is this to checking IDs in a bar? "

That's why this is so terrifying..it's just a progression of rules that have come before..it's logical,it's just obeying rules.

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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

portslade


"Looks like I need a trip to Tesco for more tinfoil tomorrow"

Hey get some non stick oven paper while your at it ??

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?"

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What papers are the Police checking ?"

Making sure nobody has an edition of the sun......

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm hoping that they are selective, not looking for the daily fail et al.

I don't quite understand the issue. Is it checking for Covid passes?

It's restrictions or vaccines everywhere. The sooner more people are vaccinated, the easier and safer it becomes in society.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool


"How different is this to checking IDs in a bar? "

Because IDs aren't medical information and there shouldn't be any restrictions on visiting a cafe.

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By *elshkinkyMan
over a year ago

south wales

Think I’ll start a thread on politics or religion … that may calm things …. Now where’s the head slapping emoji

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

Say the word ivermectin

"

Please don't

The pre-print report that was behind most of the fanatical commotion about Ivermectin, was pulled by the publisher. The data in it was absolute bollocks, with the excel spreadsheet containing the data, full of 'numbers' driving the alleged statistics, full of Os and letters, instead of numbers. It had lots of copy and pasted bits and bobs, bearing similarity to other identical reports, for other things. Sadly many people used that report in order to take the drug, even though it hadn't been peer reviewed and finally published.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that? Are you still here banging the covid drum telling everyone they should be vaxxed lol you can have all the extra ones going then I'm sure you will feel even safer

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

"

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument"

Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?"

for 30 years?...so its a cycle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument

Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system..."

Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument

Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system...

Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you."

Which is exactly what they want you to think

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By *iman2100Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Good job we live in the UK then. "

Why? I am happy to show my vaccination card.

Like my passport at frontiers, my driving licence if stopped in my car, my plane ticket, my train ticket, my theatre ticket, my qualifications certificates when I seek a job , etc etc. What is so bad about a vaccine card?

Now if it was my chlamydia test result ....

(foot note - NO I don't have chlamydia. it was a joke)

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument

Lol. Have you ever considered that your beliefs are exactly what "they" want you to believe? Who do think actually runs the websites where you get your information? The manipulation to make you think that you have pieced together the plan, when really you _are_ part of the plan. It's sleight of hand, hiding in plain sight. The system needs those who think they can expose the system, who are really just part of the deep cover of the system...

Its more than a website mate lol we all have a natural inclination to the truth. If you are honest with yourself you would admit none f this sits right with you."

You still haven't told me what rights that you claim have been taken away you dont have now since the pandemic.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

And to the person not brave enough to post on here but sends private messages you cant reply to no im not deluded and noticed you did not give me any examples.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?

for 30 years?...so its a cycle "

So you are saying that every 30 years Greece will have a summer of higher heat and dryness and that the new world order knew this and planned this climate report to coincide with this summer

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?

for 30 years?...so its a cycle

So you are saying that every 30 years Greece will have a summer of higher heat and dryness and that the new world order knew this and planned this climate report to coincide with this summer "

Who are these new world order?

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By *unkym34Man
over a year ago

London


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed

triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess"

and imagine you don’t get your triple jab straight away you have to wait maybe 6 weeks and for those 6 weeks your freedoms will be removed from you.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?

for 30 years?...so its a cycle

So you are saying that every 30 years Greece will have a summer of higher heat and dryness and that the new world order knew this and planned this climate report to coincide with this summer Who are these new world order?"

No bloody idea but I have heard from people on here that there is one. However even though they know there is one, they can never name anyone leading it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Another vaxxed person blinded to it all lol "

Is it fun seeing a troll under every bridge? Maybe try bringing a little light to the world rather than spreading conspiracies with no proof other than you saying how obvious it is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

Say the word ivermectin

"

You’ve just said it, and yes we’re all laughing at how gullible you are.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed

triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess"

Absolutely. Drugs, medication, boosters, bring them on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?"

What power have we lost that we had even 5 years ago? There is no dictatorship. People are too easily swayed by the media, which used to be journalism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The world is a chaotic and scary place, bad things happen to good peole and vice versa, life is inherently unfair.

All of these things combine to create a massive amount of uncertainty, and as our brains crave certainty over anything else some people start to develop narratives to protect themselvges psychologically.

The uncertainty of reality is just too much for them to cope with, it's tooscary for them so the idea of grand conspiracies control the world's events is comforting to them. It makes them feel special too, because they are part of an exclusive group who can see what is going on, unlike all the blind sheeple.

Egos are fragile though, so they need people to know that they are the people who know the truth, so they spout their views on internet forums and YouTube videos, they creat a little conspiracy theorist ecosystem so they can agree with each other and laugh at how blind the sheeple are.

Arguing with these people is not the way to deal with them, they will only dig their heels in deeper because their fragile egos cannot take being challenged. They cannot be convinced because they will not be convinced, they have invested too much of themselves, the conspiracy theories have become part of them and to admit they are wrong is to admit that they are a lesser person.

Yes their nonsense has to be challenged but don't get into an argument with them, they'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience, as a wise man once said of stupid people.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Get a doctors appointment.

I would talk to your gp as no problem here, i cant see anywhere where the government have said you cant see a doctor so no they havnt taken that away from us.

You should try our doctors…it’s a joke "

You’ll find that the vast majority of issues with any aspect of the health service, including reduced capacity relating to the pandemic, existed before the pandemic as they are directly caused by the Conservative defunding and mismanagement of the NHS (and everything else) since 2010.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument"

Linking all of what together?

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?"

I know that when there is a sustained dry spell things catch fire more easily.

I know that fuckwits deliberately start fires in dry areas.

Is it some sort of global conspiracy to do with climate change? No, it's fuckwits deliberately starting fires.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

The police checking if a private business is following rules...a bit like the police popping into the local and ID'ing 15 yr olds.

Being double vaxxed or medically exempt to access certain services and events is a fair trade off imo. Just say you're an ethical vegan if you need to get out of it. But be careful surveillance teams dont catch you eating sosoj after

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?

How did they control the weather so that it was the hottest and driest summer in Greece for 30 years?

for 30 years?...so its a cycle

So you are saying that every 30 years Greece will have a summer of higher heat and dryness and that the new world order knew this and planned this climate report to coincide with this summer Who are these new world order?

No bloody idea but I have heard from people on here that there is one. However even though they know there is one, they can never name anyone leading it "

It's my uncle Frank and his dominoes club... They run it from the Kings head. They get a bit larey when they've had a few brandies and stick pins in the world map to decide which natural disaster they are going to inflict next. I'll put in a word and see if they can give it a rest for a few months.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. "
Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

Hopefully we are only a month away from them bringing the rules in here too, I’m sure September was the suggested date when the government discussed it !

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it."

No. It wasn't.

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By *extus1951Man
over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue.

I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution.

"

I have long thought that the French are among the least governable people in Europe...1789,1989....

The closest we have got to French-style civil disorder was probably during the 1970s and then the "poll-tax" riots, but they occurred in relatively tight areas....in France, things seem to go national more easily.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it."

When they start torching buildings that demand compliance we are in trouble.... (pause there for a moments thought)...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it."

What papers did people have to carry? I'm not sure, and there's some implication this is a trope.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?"

bravo media scare to help dicktatership

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership"

Project fear:

1) Brexit

2) Vaccines

3) Climate change

Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative.

There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership

Project fear:

1) Brexit

2) Vaccines

3) Climate change

Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative.

There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise"

Makes you wonder what the west mids had against Europe.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Seen it. Very surreal and dystopian. Papers please! Can’t believe people are actually going along with it. Yes. I wonder the same too, that is also how it started in the 3rd reich, where things became mandatory and they also said "Papiere, bitte", whilst it is not the same circumstances as back then, it kind of is a strange thing that they have started to do it.

When they start torching buildings that demand compliance we are in trouble.... (pause there for a moments thought)... "

Yes and I also like this saying "dont take your freedom for granted".

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue.

I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution.

I have long thought that the French are among the least governable people in Europe...1789,1989....

The closest we have got to French-style civil disorder was probably during the 1970s and then the "poll-tax" riots, but they occurred in relatively tight areas....in France, things seem to go national more easily. "

Like the Yellow Vest protests?

The French do seem a lot more willing to stand up for things than the English.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There has been running battles with the police for the last month over the pass issue.

I have to say the French certainly know how to have a revolution.

I have long thought that the French are among the least governable people in Europe...1789,1989....

The closest we have got to French-style civil disorder was probably during the 1970s and then the "poll-tax" riots, but they occurred in relatively tight areas....in France, things seem to go national more easily.

Like the Yellow Vest protests?

The French do seem a lot more willing to stand up for things than the English."

I dunno .. we had plenty of protests recently too. The yellow vests were more, how can I say, media interesting, and also more regular, so stick.

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By *veragecouple321Couple
over a year ago

Leamington Spa


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

"

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level."

Totally agree. Medical segregation… ugh! Disgusting, and makes me cringe that some support this.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level."

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried."

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross."

Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross."

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious "

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile."

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care "

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture."

Oh I do see the bigger picture. And I see the lies being spun to make it look like a conspiracy.

Hmm. Yeah, I think I should pay attention to more important things. Off to clip my toenails

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture."

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

Oh I do see the bigger picture. And I see the lies being spun to make it look like a conspiracy.

Hmm. Yeah, I think I should pay attention to more important things. Off to clip my toenails"

You clearly don’t see the bigger picture. One day it may be you coerced into something with the threat of your freedoms removed.

Enjoy clipping your toe nails, I guess it’s a change from talking about covid all day every day on here. I’d get out a bit if I were you. Life is too short.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley

In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’ "

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history."

Indeed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history."

vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out."

Which science exactly?

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?"

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ..."

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me."

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)"

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells."

“ Misconceptions about COVID-19 vaccines abound. Some common ones: If you’ve had COVID-19, you don’t need the vaccine. Wrong. It’s better get naturally infected than to get vaccinated. Wrong.”

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating. "

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx"

“ *Important Notice

medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.”

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response."

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx

“ *Important Notice

medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.”"

And the complete lack of discussion by media and government on previous immunity for the passports should still ring alarm bells. It’s good enough for the EU covid green pass, yet not for nightclubs here? Dodgy.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx

“ *Important Notice

medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.”

And the complete lack of discussion by media and government on previous immunity for the passports should still ring alarm bells. It’s good enough for the EU covid green pass, yet not for nightclubs here? Dodgy."

Do you mean previous infection? How is this measured? After a few monthe post infection there wont just be random atibodies floating around to measure that

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

"

Well yes - but, again, that isn't happening at all here. We have a libertarian, laissez faire conservative party in charge who have dithered whenever faced with the need to pass laws curbing civil liberties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

If only there was something you could do to ensure not only that you protected your lives and the lives of others but also not have your ‘freedoms restricted’

Keeping freedoms we’ve had for decades should not require a medical intervention. That’s why they were called freedoms. It won’t end with this jab.

If anyone thinks this is only about public health, ask why previous infection is not going to be deemed as good as vaccination for the passports. Science says it should be. The government say it isn’t. Work it out.

Which science exactly?

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.html

There’s one example suggesting it’s better. Other studies suggest it’s about the same. Either way, the fact it’s not planned to be used on the passports should ring alarm bells.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210711/SARS-CoV-2-immunity-due-to-prior-infection-or-vaccination-is-similar-study-says.aspx

“ *Important Notice

medRxiv publishes preliminary scientific reports that are not peer-reviewed and, therefore, should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or treated as established information.”

And the complete lack of discussion by media and government on previous immunity for the passports should still ring alarm bells. It’s good enough for the EU covid green pass, yet not for nightclubs here? Dodgy."

Have you read the articles you quoted? Both say that the immunity from infection lasts less time than from vaccination, meaning that anyone who had Covid prior to February this year has lost their protection if they haven’t been vaccinated.

This government is definitely authoritarian but star looking at how they are attacking the legal system, creating a wave of xenophobia, and banning protests rather than spouting ill informed rubbish about Covid passports.

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By *uddy laneMan
over a year ago

dudley


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

Well yes - but, again, that isn't happening at all here. We have a libertarian, laissez faire conservative party in charge who have dithered whenever faced with the need to pass laws curbing civil liberties. "

Who are folowing orders from the pay masters

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over a year ago


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

"

agreed. I saw some echos with brexit, with Henry viii powers and the like. Would have been *interesting* to have seen how a Tory/bxp government evolved.

Very off topic for this tho. But it is interesting how little people will say the tory party rather than the government, and how little focus there is on getting them out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I reckon the Venn diagram for people complaint about vaccine passports being a threat to their freedom, and people who a few months ago were calling for the old and vulnerable to be made to stay indoors, is a perfect circle.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture."

We've all been in a situation where our freedoms are restricted, earlier in the pandemic. We just have 2 tools to help us to restore our lives and health - restrictions and vaccines.

The virus is still circulating at high levels, deaths have increased to the levels of March. We will need to use the tools that we have available, to help to regain our lifestyles more fully. Vaccines and restrictions, it's your choice still, as this isn't over yet.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

Well yes - but, again, that isn't happening at all here. We have a libertarian, laissez faire conservative party in charge who have dithered whenever faced with the need to pass laws curbing civil liberties. "

Jesus you think we should have had more restrictions? Crikey some people are odd. Glad I ignored the restrictions all winter.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Oh, I'm sorry, do you prefer unvaccinated person or person without vaccination? The person first language movement is of course contentious

It’s the pigeonholing of people with a label then not caring about their civil liberties that’s vile.

One day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and I suspect you may change your mind then. But you can’t see the bigger picture.

You support medical segregation. Which is vile.

I didn't say I support it. I said I don't care

Well one day you may be in a group where your freedoms are restricted, and then you will care. See the bigger picture.

We've all been in a situation where our freedoms are restricted, earlier in the pandemic. We just have 2 tools to help us to restore our lives and health - restrictions and vaccines.

The virus is still circulating at high levels, deaths have increased to the levels of March. We will need to use the tools that we have available, to help to regain our lifestyles more fully. Vaccines and restrictions, it's your choice still, as this isn't over yet. "

Easy, just ignore the restrictions like so many did last summer.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Remember when this was about making sure the nhs wasn’t over run? Now it’s stop covid deaths at all costs… even if that includes medical segregation. Some people are so far gone. Get out there and live life while you can.

I swear some folk just adore all this, it’s given a meaning to their life. Very sad.

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By *leepingvenusWoman
over a year ago

Stirling

What are you saying? That the fires don't come about naturally?

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By *extus1951Man
over a year ago

Shrewsbury


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership

Project fear:

1) Brexit

2) Vaccines

3) Climate change

Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative.

There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise"

Essentially that is complete and utter tosh (I could say something stronger, but it would get me banned)

The last post contains as much credibility as the earlier one....frankly, I don't even know why I am bothering to comment on their asinine opinions....their sort are beyond reasoning with!

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent."

You do realise that you can still catch it from vaccinated persons at these private businesses you frequent?

The primary purpose of the vaccine is to take the sting out of it should you catch it.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Once upon a time in a land far far away...

There's an element of the emperors new clothes in all sides of what has become very divisive unfortunately. There's not a great deal of substantive evidence for either side that can't be argued away....

The vaxxers want more and more and younger and younger jabbed once twice three times and that's enough... Even if 12 year olds are very unlikely to catch it or suffer with it stick em anyway little bastards it's all their fault.

The antis want nothing to do with it because... Well who knows why... Oh that's right it's an experimental gene therapy bla bla..

The human rights see an individuals body as sovereign and on principle refuse if anyone tells them what to put in it...even if it might help.. You can't tell me what to do..

The freedom fighters see passports as a step towards communism or is it fascism and slippery slope ism.. You can't repress me...

The conspiracy theorists see it all as Bill Gates and Big pharma ruling the world.... Or reducing population. And isn't it a coincidence that there are Bush fires...

Thankfully a lot of people are simply trying to get through it for them and their families and friends.

There's plenty here to keep social media busy for another 12 months yet.

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By *wistedTooCouple
over a year ago

Frimley


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed yes you have to have proof now to enter bars, restaurants,go on inter city trains, theatres some shopping malls or enter public buildings.

And hospitals, dentists the list will grow."

Awesome!

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent.

You do realise that you can still catch it from vaccinated persons at these private businesses you frequent?

The primary purpose of the vaccine is to take the sting out of it should you catch it."

Well yes. But the vaccine also reduces likelihood of transmission. Its about probabilities.

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?bravo media scare to help dicktatership

Project fear:

1) Brexit

2) Vaccines

3) Climate change

Interestingly, vaccine levels are lowest amongst right wing voters and areas who voted overwhelmingly "leave" like the west midlands. Climate change deniers also more likely to be right wing / conservative.

There is a VALUES issue at the centre of all of this that cannot be easily unpicked. Some people are so prepossessed by their paranoia that it interferes with the ability to rationalise

Essentially that is complete and utter tosh (I could say something stronger, but it would get me banned)

The last post contains as much credibility as the earlier one....frankly, I don't even know why I am bothering to comment on their asinine opinions....their sort are beyond reasoning with!"

The stats are all true.

Anti vaxers are more likely to vote conservative, have a strong disgust reflex, be less open minded but high in conscientiousness. They are also likely to be lower in IQ and less likely to hold a higher level qualification (Level 5 or above).

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Wait till that visa thing comes in ?? 7 euro's and roaming charges and be health insurance soon as well ?? but fancy bringing in laws and actually enforcing them ?? instead of ...weirdo's and good job we left when we did ...and be checking every single thing you do on your smartphone/tablet/comp...oh the big boys already do and the government has a access to your browsing history/e mails and even your contents of your smart phone ..( which tracks you 24/7 )

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

I am clinically extremely vulnerable, I have copd, and contrary to popular belief I have had 2 doses of Astra/Zenica so not an anti-vaxxer, I have a voice and don't need others to speak for me when they have no idea what I feel or think, people should have the right to choose whether or not they want a vaccine. I do not think a vaccine passport scheme will keep me from dying, I still believe restricting what someone can do if they have chosen not to take the vaccine is wrong on every level.

I didn't claim to be speaking for anyone. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.

Unfortunately my level of concern about the liberties of the unvaccinated by choice stands beneath whether my toenails need cutting. So far my toenails could probably make a more compelling case as to why I should be worried.

“The unvaccinated”…. How dehumanising you are. You’re happy with medical segregation then? Gross.

Im happy for the unvaccinated to be kept away from private businesses i will frequent.

You do realise that you can still catch it from vaccinated persons at these private businesses you frequent?

The primary purpose of the vaccine is to take the sting out of it should you catch it."

The vaccines give significantly lower levels of infectivity to others, much less severe illness and they prevent deaths - tens of thousands of deaths.

With us just having vaccines of restrictions to get us out of this mess that's been exacerbated by those who - even some in this thread - didn't comply with restrictions.

Obviously the restrictions weren't strong, or enforced, enough for some, including those who are proud of breaking laws in place to help to rebuild our lives, so more broadly enforced restrictions that provide greater protection for the majority are needed. The Covid vaccines pass will continue to increase protection for everyone. It's restrictions and vaccines that are here to reduce the damage to our lives. We don't just have seatbelts to protect drivers, we have licensing that gives us the freedoms to get out and about to enjoy our national infrastructure, as well as better vehicle and road design and usage restrictions. Those feebly trying to get everything for nothing, not contributing to society's wellbeing, can hardly expect to imperil others. Most people learn self-monitoring and accountability as they develop from little children, into the more mature world, with the responsibilities and freedoms that they live in harmony with. Its a 2 way street. Restrictions and vaccines get us out of this mess.

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By *heNaturistCoupleCouple
over a year ago

crewe


"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept."

100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war.

This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters.

The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon.

Worryingly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept.

100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war.

This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters.

The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon.

Worryingly."

There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept.

100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war.

This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters.

The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon.

Worryingly."

I am observing albeit from afar for the moment having fled Paris amidst the gilet jaunes. (Not literally fled but thought it wiser to work from the UK or Germany)

and yes, I am concerned. I am also concerned about the unrest in other European countries, Germany may seem peaceful but there is a strong resistance which is growing by the day. Elections a few weeks away may see a horrible swing towards the more extreme parties.

Unrest seems to be growing.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept.

100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war.

This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters.

The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon.

Worryingly.

There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part."

Marie Le Pen AND Macron were seeing voters move in the first round of regional elections. And... lowest voter turnout which suggests apathy or simply not knowing what to vote for?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"And all the mis- and disinformation about the vaccine, all the hype on social media leads to ever greater polarisation of the population.

Division means people are losing power, divide and rule for a government.

I am saying this in general terms as the UK is not the only place where this is becoming a sad reality.

I do believe we need to find a way of being less separatist and more united, avoiding the "us and them" concept.

100% agree, unfortunately the bigger problem in France lurks under the surface, huge civil unrest has been building for a decade, even ex military officials have been warning of a looming civil war.

This to me looks like a government out of control and assuming a totalitarian stance to placate it's hard line citizens while systematically cracking down on dissenters.

The bitterness in France is reaching breaking point very soon.

Worryingly.

There will not be a civil war in France, the current anti-vaxxer nonsense is not the same issues that have plagued France for decades, and are not the same people taking part.Marie Le Pen AND Macron were seeing voters move in the first round of regional elections. And... lowest voter turnout which suggests apathy or simply not knowing what to vote for? "

* voters move away from their parties

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

At least the French and other governments implemented restrictions quickly, to help to protect their citizens

We are perhaps too soft, giving extraordinary amounts of time and notice, to people to do the wise thing and to just get vaccinated. The longer the delay, the bigger the problem gets

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I reckon the Venn diagram for people complaint about vaccine passports being a threat to their freedom, and people who a few months ago were calling for the old and vulnerable to be made to stay indoors, is a perfect circle."

Yes, strongly suspect that is the case. ‘Restrictions are fine for other people, if they benefit me!’

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What papers are the Police checking ? that your double jabbed

triple jabbed soon...but ofcourse you are okay with that i guess"

Fine with it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So it's come to this..

I've seen footage and heard from friends in France that they are actually doing this-in outdoor cafes too.

Why concern yourself with what other countries do, unless you are visiting there or living there, does it really matter.

The French have been strict since the beginning.

Anyone see a common theme here with a double vaxxed commentor...they literally do not have the capacity to link it all together...thats the crux of this whole argument"

Link all of what together? Bill Gates and the lizard people taking over by injecting us with 5g chips....?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ill give you a better one...do you think the fires in greece and turkey (with evidence all over the internet it was by arson)

were random events as well as the report on climate change which was released just in time?

If you are awake as they say you would be able to clearly see the same pattern...news/media put the fear out that there are these wild fires and bombared you with stories about floods etc which coincidently happens pretty much every year somewhere in the world.

Get the likes of you scared..thinking these are random events and not timed with the release of a report confirming your "fears" of climate change.....get it now?"

Anyone else use the "green arrow of truth"....always amusing I find

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good job we live in the UK then.

Classic response in January 2020 when it was China...and Italy after...you have got to be double vaxxed surely

Is double vaxxed an insult or something?

What makes you think that?

The way you say it after disagreeing with someone.

Anyway. The French authorities are upholding their laws.

So, you could say they’re just following orders?

The same way that British police are when investigating crimes. Or even German ones.

Imagine a country having laws and enforcing them. How outrageous.

Just because it’s law doesn’t mean it’s right.

Agreed. But it's the police's job to enforce the law.

Maybe they are "just following orders". Maybe holidays are nefarious too because you'll need your Papiere, bitte

Let me spell it out to you...this is a creeping dictatorship that will refuse to give away any power it has taken from the people...

Now tell me are you any more free than when Boris told you give me 3 weeks in March? or do you think whats happening in France and here are two random events?

Let me spell it out for you

I see that the unvaccinated are having their activities curtailed. I understand. But I don't care. I do not give a single solitary hoot. In fact, it might make the medically vulnerable feel safer.

As for the tyranny thing - afraid I buy that as much as "the world will end in 2012." That was a hot minute ago and we seem to still be here.

I will ask again what cant you do in the uk today that you could before the pandemic?

Take my family swimming without having to book.

Attend all our support groups as they're still not running.

Go into the kids schools to talk to staff.

Is this law then or just guidance that they are following for now?"

I reckon it's summer hols...so schools are shut...!

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"In 1939 people were dehumanised for belief and economic activities.

The military were following orders.

the civilian population well they did not understand and jumped on the wrong side of history. vote in Nazis, get bad results ...

They were a legitimately elected political party.

Now that scares the beejezus out if me.

Tories or Nazis ?

(I'm being a dick here. But that's what happens when you go Godwin)

Read about the Weimar Republic post WW1, it really is fascinating.

It is. And entirely different in every way to the covid response.

My response was aimed at the tories or nazis response above. It was the Weimar conservatives and industrialists who put Hitler in power. They used the fear and instability of the country to their advantage to gain authoritarian control.

Like I said, it really is fascinating

Well yes - but, again, that isn't happening at all here. We have a libertarian, laissez faire conservative party in charge who have dithered whenever faced with the need to pass laws curbing civil liberties. "

I never suggested otherwise.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK "

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany."

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

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I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation."

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me."

Absolutely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me."

I could not have put it better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany."

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up."

Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah.

Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up.

Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah.

Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy."

I think the issue was less about restrictions (I would prefer them not to come back) but more with the analogy to Hitler that caused offense, in all fairness.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me.

I could not have put it better."

Those who reference nazis are not talking about gas chambers. Do some think that was all the nazis we’re about? Lol.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up.

Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah.

Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy.

I think the issue was less about restrictions (I would prefer them not to come back) but more with the analogy to Hitler that caused offense, in all fairness."

Hitler was an authoritarian. That is where the comparison comes from. Not gas chambers.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up.

Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah.

Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy.

I think the issue was less about restrictions (I would prefer them not to come back) but more with the analogy to Hitler that caused offense, in all fairness.

Hitler was an authoritarian. That is where the comparison comes from. Not gas chambers."

Sure understand. But can you see that the comparison might cause genuine offense?

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me."

Those who are happy with medical segregation sicken me. Disgusting. Vile. Like all segregation.

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By *heekybrummiemonkeysCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Wah, I’m being forced to consider other people for once in my life, this is just like being murdered in a gas chamber.

Grow up.

Wah, I’ve had my vaccine but that’s still not enough, I have to restrict others freedoms too as the vaccine is only 90% effective. Wah.

Grow up. Get on with your life. Maintain medical autonomy.

I think the issue was less about restrictions (I would prefer them not to come back) but more with the analogy to Hitler that caused offense, in all fairness.

Hitler was an authoritarian. That is where the comparison comes from. Not gas chambers.

Sure understand. But can you see that the comparison might cause genuine offense? "

Not unless someone specifically mentioned gas chambers. Nazis were authoritarian. That was the comparison.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me.

Those who are happy with medical segregation sicken me. Disgusting. Vile. Like all segregation. "

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"Sooner the better, these types of restrictions come to the UK

Great idea, lets just become Nazi Germany.

Where, oh where did subtlety go?

This is bad. I don't like it. 0-100: Hitler!

I agree!

I disagree with the call for further restrictions but I also believe that comparison to Hitler's Germany is ill-chosen and not reflective of the current pandemic situation.

The torture and extermination of millions of people is minimised through these comparisons. It sickens me.

Those who are happy with medical segregation sicken me. Disgusting. Vile. Like all segregation. "

I agree with the last statement - I do not like the idea of segregation one little bit.

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