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" "The canary in the coal mine is dead, what shall we do"? "Go get another canary"." I don't understand your point? | |||
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html" Yet still people will say that this is fake or he died from something else. I genuinely hope people start to understand that the virus can harm anyone anytime. So many lulled into a sense of false security by social media nonsense. Sad, very sad. | |||
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html" Sounds very similar to many of those who are double injected and think that they are fully protected also, same outcome. | |||
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html Sounds very similar to many of those who are double injected and think that they are fully protected also, same outcome. " Partly you are right. They not fully protected as some waccinated tend to believe. But most fully vaccinated are protected from ending in hospital in a life threatening state. So not really same outcome. | |||
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"A sad reflection of the enormous powers that have influenced diverse people to not get vaccinated. We have all felt that push towards doubts, fear and erroneous belief in our own strength ensuring that we wouldn't be in that tiny minority who failed to survive it. Tragically some held out against the incredible medical success of this millennium so far and paid so dearly. I hope that fewer resist the vaccines this summer " | |||
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html Sounds very similar to many of those who are double injected and think that they are fully protected also, same outcome. " I don't know anyone like that. And of course, those who are fully vaccinated, will have a very statistically different, healthier outcome, compared to those who are not. 20% of current hospital admissions are 18 to 34 years old. I'm sure many of them thought that they were unlikely to get very sick and they were unfortunate to be amongst the last to be offered a vaccine. The evidence from the last few months fully clarifies how the vaccines are protecting thousands from death and severe illness | |||
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html Sounds very similar to many of those who are double injected and think that they are fully protected also, same outcome. I don't know anyone like that. And of course, those who are fully vaccinated, will have a very statistically different, healthier outcome, compared to those who are not. 20% of current hospital admissions are 18 to 34 years old. I'm sure many of them thought that they were unlikely to get very sick and they were unfortunate to be amongst the last to be offered a vaccine. The evidence from the last few months fully clarifies how the vaccines are protecting thousands from death and severe illness " 20% of what ? healthy? what illness because surely even you cant say every other illness is eradicated and every admission is down to a positive test result ....ill await the details | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they "Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake? | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?"yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake. Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol | |||
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Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol"Why haven’t they interviewed the ones that have died? Comment of the century. I know it’s a serious subject but pissing myself laughing at that one. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
Why haven’t they interviewed the ones that have died?
Comment of the century.
I know it’s a serious subject but pissing myself laughing at that one. "Yeah, all those Covid deaths were fake, produce one person who can testify that they died of it  | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! " By vaccine injury, do you mean prick in the arm? | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they "Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc). In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking? I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research. | |||
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"Infact not too long ago Facebook censored, banned and deleted a profile set up for people who have lost loved ones to the vaccine! Many of which who died after taking the jab who had no other co-morbidities! There’s a lot of censorship and silencing going on but truth is starting to slowly seep out. Give it time! They can’t block the truth forever! "  | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! " According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. " You’ve proved the above point perfectly | |||
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"Do your research on COVID-19 vaccine adverse effects? Then you will understand what I’m talking about! There’s tons of people suffering but mainstream media outlets are suppressing the info from getting out and people need to be informed about the truth, Google, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram are all doing their part of suppressing the truth! " Reading posts on Facebook or some dodgy telegram group isn't doing your own research. | |||
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"How do we know for certain that the double jabbed that they say are still dying of covid-19 despite being double jabbed are not actually dying from the vaccine and they are putting it down as COVID-19! That is a possibility! Without doing a autopsy they can’t say for certain can they? Just food for thought? " died (for any reason) within 28 days of a positive test = covid death died within 28 days of the jab = (pick a reason) absolutely NOT the jab It's basic science man | |||
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"All because the government couldn’t step up and address the real issue here......how trust in authority has been lost by so many. Have the government addressed their lies of the past and displayed how these things can’t happen again? Did they respond by by looking at their own corrupt behaviour and fixing the system that allows and rewards such behaviour? No they call anyone that has lost trust a nutty tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. And not one article in the media talking about this massive trust issue. So in short I blame the government and media for this death and also the mis information spreaders. " you mean....THE MEDIA IS THE VIRUS?? 
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"Such a pitty. Smart, highly educated, healthy but with a point to prove. That the body could fight covid naturally like in 99.9% of the cases and that he did not need to put an experimental vaccine in his body. In his facebook page there are in full the two videos he posted while feeling the symptoms. Even when the symptoms became really bad, he thought that he did not even need to go to the hospital. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9864347/Covid-sufferer-says-virus-afraid-vlog-days-died-disease.html Sounds very similar to many of those who are double injected and think that they are fully protected also, same outcome. Partly you are right. They not fully protected as some waccinated tend to believe. But most fully vaccinated are protected from ending in hospital in a life threatening state. So not really same outcome." | |||
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"How do we know for certain that the double jabbed that they say are still dying of covid-19 despite being double jabbed are not actually dying from the vaccine and they are putting it down as COVID-19! That is a possibility! Without doing a autopsy they can’t say for certain can they? Just food for thought? " Food for thought is the significant reductions in hospitalisations and deaths since the rollout of the vaccine programme. | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. You’ve proved the above point perfectly " Are you suggesting the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? If so for what purpose? | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. You’ve proved the above point perfectly Are you suggesting the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? If so for what purpose?" You don’t think a single death can be attributed to the vaccines? | |||
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"There was a story out of Australia yesterday of a 34 year old woman who was otherwise healthy who died of blood clots after the AstraZeneca vaccine." How many doses of the vaccine have been administered? | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. You’ve proved the above point perfectly Are you suggesting the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? If so for what purpose? You don’t think a single death can be attributed to the vaccines? " I do believe that a number of deaths can be attributed to adverse reactions from the vaccines. But still, we are taking about billions of vaccine doses being administered around the world. To give you an idea about the extent of misinformation on vaccines by the alternative media, I came accross of a recent news being covered with antivaxx spin. The site took information published by CDC and put its spin on the title of the article. 14 children died after getting vaccinated in the US. This was the title. You would think by reading that all 14 died as a result from the covid vaccine. But no. On the actual body of the article, they mentioned that for 6 of the 14 children the cause had not been determined and also that 2 of the children commited SUICIDE. Now partly the title was not wrong. 14 children indeed died after being vaccinated. But how many read beyond the title? Certainly 2 of the children who commited suicide did not die due to the vaccine? But anyway, I have to salute the alternative media who spread misinformation. They do not stop at anything to make their point stick to the minds of their misinformed readers. | |||
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"Well in Europe the vaccines have been linked to 17 thousand deaths and 2 million injuries half of which were classified as serious, ie required hospital." Do you have the article that has the proof of those claims? | |||
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"Well in Europe the vaccines have been linked to 17 thousand deaths and 2 million injuries half of which were classified as serious, ie required hospital." This is according to information submited by doctors, patients and relatives based on what they believed was the cause of death in vaccinated patients or the symptoms the vaccinated persons had. Some of the claims will be investigated by the European health authorities. | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false?" That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false?" They are not false numbers but you have to understand what the VAERS scheme is and take these numbers with a pinch of salt. Adverse effects reported by ANYONE, not just by doctors but by patients and relatives of patients who suspect or believe that the effects are attributed to the vaccine. You can check at CDC what the VAERS is. There is a word of caution on the CDC site regarding VAERS and how to interpret the VAERS data. | |||
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" "The canary in the coal mine is dead, what shall we do"? "Go get another canary". I don't understand your point?" A canary was taken into a coal mine after a fire or explosion, the canary being small would be overcome by the presence of carbon monoxide before any human, thus giving the rescue teams notice to withdraw to fresh air. By saying get another canary its like saying theres no danger there. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
Why haven’t they interviewed the ones that have died?
Comment of the century.
I know it’s a serious subject but pissing myself laughing at that one. "Erm again critical thinking missing...died (interview relatives trying to get their loved ones death recorded on the yellow card scheme), adverse effects show and interview them too  | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
Why haven’t they interviewed the ones that have died?
Comment of the century.
I know it’s a serious subject but pissing myself laughing at that one.
Yeah, all those Covid deaths were fake, produce one person who can testify that they died of it "Big difference of dying within 28 days of a positive test (which tests for the SarsCov2 virus but yet cannot differentiate between that virus and an other cold/flu virus looooool) and classed as a covid death (regardless of actual cause be it car crash, cancer etc) and actually dying of covid. | |||
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"One news story like this proves nothing..it's all about statistics, which both sides are manipulating like mad. The BBC are really pushing it hard" exactly my point ...but the many on here attacking people that can think critically have there head buried in the sand... | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. " Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus | |||
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"So this makes me wonder just how many people have actually died of actual covid with no other underlying health problems or diseases. Also if the government was to change their criteria around the diagnosis of Covid-19 and make the PCR test more accurate and truthful by lowering the threshold to below 35 cycles then the COVID-19 cases and death cases would be significantly less and there wouldn’t be be as many false positives! According the PHE If you died of anything I.e car crash but tested positive of covid within 28 days of a positive PCR test your death is counted as a covid death which is insane! So if this criteria was to be changed to death caused only by actual COVID and nothing else I bet the death case numbers would be significantly less and also if they were to lower the threshold to below 35 cycles then there would also be a significant drop in the number of covid cases and the high false positive would also drop as cycles thresholds above 35 are know to give over 90% false positives. A few of my friends have tested positive for COVID using the pcr test but have had zero symptoms which doesn’t make sense to me if your supposed to be suffering with an infectious killer virus surely you feel a bit under the weather. I wonder how many of those were false actually false positives? Especially as the pcr test is useless at cycles above a 35 threshold! When most institutions are testing at 40 cycle threshold! Very interesting when you start to look past the bullshit spewed out by the government and media which involve some actual fake covid death numbers and fake case numbers with a unreliable pcr test that the inventor Dr Mulis himself said can’t be used to test for an infectious disease! What a great way to manipulate the case and death numbers to justify their experimental jab and the most of genera, public are ignoring this. Do you research as we are taken for mugs with the governments misinformation and lies! " tl;dr - this poster doesn't understand PCR. | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus" ] Which in itself is misleading because what population of the human race have had Covid19? | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research."In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died"Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know. | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus ] Which in itself is misleading because what population of the human race have had Covid19?" Not misleading at all. If the figures are correct they suggest there would be a similar rate of death whatever course of action you took. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know."Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?  | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days? "Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold. Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless. "Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction. You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus ] Which in itself is misleading because what population of the human race have had Covid19? Not misleading at all. If the figures are correct they suggest there would be a similar rate of death whatever course of action you took. " I'm not sure you understand how numbers work so I'll explain it as simply as I can for you. The population of the world is somewhere around 7 billion, if Covid has killed 0.0024% of the population that makes it roughly on a par with the supposed death rate from vaccinations. However it is estimated that less than 20% of the world's population have had Covid 19, that makes the chance of dying from Covid at least 5 times higher than the chances of dying from vaccination. Research shows that just over 1% of people who contract Covid 19 die from it, that is a slightly higher than 1 in 100 chance of dying. Contrast that with the reported numbers (which are problematic, as explained in this thread) in the US where the chance of dying from a vaccine dose is 1 in 54,000. I'm not a betting man but if I were I know which odds I would favour. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died"First and foremost you have to take into consideration the age of the people who got vaccinated and their underlying health conditions. A much higher percentage of eldery people have been vaccinated compared to the percentage of the younger people who haven’t got vaccinated (and who are less susceptible in dying from covid. Of course a higher propotion of vaccinated people of a certain age die from covid complications compared to the younger and unvaccinated people? But now that the majority of the adult population have been vaccinated (at least in the UK) cases of deaths of younger and healthier people who have not been vaccinated pop up. In today’s news, another unfortunate 56 year old Brit, unvaccinated and with no underlying health conditions, who chose not to have the vaccine because he did not believe in it. RIP. Anti-vaxxer club boss, 56, dies of Covid after mocking people for getting 'experimental' vaccine and warning of 'big pharma' conspiracy in hundreds of Facebook messages David Parker, 56, died at a hospital in Darlington, County Durham, on Monday He had contracted virus just weeks after condemning vaccine in Facebook posts The nightclub manager's family are said to now be urging everyone to get jabbed Customers and employees paid tribute to him, saying he will be 'sorely missed' https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9867589/Anti-vaxxer-club-boss-56-dies-Covid-mocking-people-getting-experimental-vaccine.html | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless.
Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction.
You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus"We are talking about people who had Covid-19 as a contributing or primary factor on their death certificate. There's really not a big difference. If I die from a heart condition that was chronic but not acute prior to me catching Covid then it stands to reason (and medical science) that although it was the heart condition that I died from I wouldn't have died at that point had I not contracted Covid. If I get hit by a car and die from a resulting brain haemorrage that happens when my skull hits the concrete I died from a brain haemorrage but it was the car that killed me. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless.
Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction.
You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus
We are talking about people who had Covid-19 as a contributing or primary factor on their death certificate. There's really not a big difference.
If I die from a heart condition that was chronic but not acute prior to me catching Covid then it stands to reason (and medical science) that although it was the heart condition that I died from I wouldn't have died at that point had I not contracted Covid.
If I get hit by a car and die from a resulting brain haemorrage that happens when my skull hits the concrete I died from a brain haemorrage but it was the car that killed me."You can have a test which... falsely or correctly...says you have coronavirus. You can then subsequently die in a car crash and you will be listed as a coronavirus death | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus" And your calculation is misleading. You are saying the whole of the human population has had covid . | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus And your calculation is misleading. You are saying the whole of the human population has had covid ."No, I'm not | |||
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". Certainly know more than you if you are seriously trying to state the PCR test is as accurate as govt claim it to be...and if you are under the registration of the general medical council then even more obvious you are a govt shill" When did you last run a PCR assay? | |||
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"In the US 342m doses of coronavirus vaccine were injected between December 2020 and 23 July 2021. According to the Centre for Disease Control there have been 6,340 related deaths reported to the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting Scheme (VAERS). Are these numbers false? That means 0.00001854 deaths per dose, which indicates a 99.99998256% survival rate. Or a 1 in 54,000 chance of dying. Indeed...but your calculations are misleading because some/many of the vaccines issued would have been the standard two per person. Control that out and you have a death rate of 0.0025%, compared with 0.0024% of the human population that has died of coronavirus And your calculation is misleading. You are saying the whole of the human population has had covid .
No, I'm not"So why are you using the whole human population in your equation. Surely it should be the number of covid cases. Or you should use the whole human population for the vaccine calculation. | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless.
Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction.
You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus
We are talking about people who had Covid-19 as a contributing or primary factor on their death certificate. There's really not a big difference.
If I die from a heart condition that was chronic but not acute prior to me catching Covid then it stands to reason (and medical science) that although it was the heart condition that I died from I wouldn't have died at that point had I not contracted Covid.
If I get hit by a car and die from a resulting brain haemorrage that happens when my skull hits the concrete I died from a brain haemorrage but it was the car that killed me.
You can have a test which... falsely or correctly...says you have coronavirus.
You can then subsequently die in a car crash and you will be listed as a coronavirus death"No, you won't because it is illegal to falsify a reason for death on a dfeath certificate. | |||
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"How do we know for certain that the double jabbed that they say are still dying of covid-19 despite being double jabbed are not actually dying from the vaccine and they are putting it down as COVID-19! That is a possibility! Without doing a autopsy they can’t say for certain can they? Just food for thought? " Your ignorance astounds me. But, the good news is, with the lifting of restrictions, more people can attend your funeral. If you haven't made your will do it now. | |||
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Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol"I think you need to ask yourself why they haven't interviewed those who've died from the vaccine. These posts just get funnier. E | |||
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"How do we know for certain that the double jabbed that they say are still dying of covid-19 despite being double jabbed are not actually dying from the vaccine and they are putting it down as COVID-19! That is a possibility! Without doing a autopsy they can’t say for certain can they? Just food for thought? Your ignorance astounds me. But, the good news is, with the lifting of restrictions, more people can attend your funeral. If you haven't made your will do it now." Says the guy who had an experimental vaccine put into him | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
I think you need to ask yourself why they haven't interviewed those who've died from the vaccine.
These posts just get funnier.
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless.
Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction.
You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus
We are talking about people who had Covid-19 as a contributing or primary factor on their death certificate. There's really not a big difference.
If I die from a heart condition that was chronic but not acute prior to me catching Covid then it stands to reason (and medical science) that although it was the heart condition that I died from I wouldn't have died at that point had I not contracted Covid.
If I get hit by a car and die from a resulting brain haemorrage that happens when my skull hits the concrete I died from a brain haemorrage but it was the car that killed me.
You can have a test which... falsely or correctly...says you have coronavirus.
You can then subsequently die in a car crash and you will be listed as a coronavirus death
No, you won't because it is illegal to falsify a reason for death on a dfeath certificate."Doctors have been told that they will face disciplinary action if they 'miss' coronavirus as a cause of death. Vice versa: no disciplinary action. So you are guaranteeing your future if you play safe career-wise and list coronavirus Why has this threat been made? You should be aware that the Office of National Statistics calculated this spring that an estimated 24% of coronavirus 'deaths' weren't actually coronavirus deaths. They revised that figure three weeks later to 30% | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
If you display no obvious signs of being able to think critically, you really shouldn’t be talking about critical thinking. "I hope you have applied that principle to yourself Agent Smith | |||
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If you display no obvious signs of being able to think critically, you really shouldn’t be talking about critical thinking.
I hope you have applied that principle to yourself Agent Smith"There’s no reason to doubt it. On the other hand, you’ve filled this thread with several clear examples illustrating you can’t think critically. So it’s an area you’d be wise to avoid highlighting further. | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. You’ve proved the above point perfectly Are you suggesting the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? If so for what purpose? You don’t think a single death can be attributed to the vaccines? " That wasn't my question. Do you believe the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Would you like to provide your own analysis on why it is 100% fake news the death of this man? (By leaving aside various links to dubious sites claiming otherwise and references to big pharmas, new global order, etc).
In your own words, could you name all the hallmarks of 100% fake news for the benefit of the readers who are unable to do any critical thinking?
I hope I will get to read a great answer and not something like do your own research.
In the interests of context and balance, and having done your own thinking, could you please explain what proportion of non-vaccinated people have died and what proportion of vaccinated people have died
Its pretty clear more people were dying before we had the vaccination roll out so that tells you all you need to know.
Oh really lol What of the PCR test and its inability to differentiate between common flu and SarsCov2 ? Are your figures on deaths based on people testing positive within 28days?
Firstly there is no such thing as common flu I think you are mixing that up with the common cold.
Secondly it doesn't matter what people say to you or what facts you are given you choose not to believe them so its pointless.
Are we looking at people who died WITH coronavirus or people who died OF coronavirus? Very important distinction.
You then have to factor in the lack of autopsies and also the disciplinary threats made against doctors who 'fail to spot' a death from coronavirus
We are talking about people who had Covid-19 as a contributing or primary factor on their death certificate. There's really not a big difference.
If I die from a heart condition that was chronic but not acute prior to me catching Covid then it stands to reason (and medical science) that although it was the heart condition that I died from I wouldn't have died at that point had I not contracted Covid.
If I get hit by a car and die from a resulting brain haemorrage that happens when my skull hits the concrete I died from a brain haemorrage but it was the car that killed me.
You can have a test which... falsely or correctly...says you have coronavirus.
You can then subsequently die in a car crash and you will be listed as a coronavirus death
No, you won't because it is illegal to falsify a reason for death on a dfeath certificate.
Doctors have been told that they will face disciplinary action if they 'miss' coronavirus as a cause of death.
Vice versa: no disciplinary action.
So you are guaranteeing your future if you play safe career-wise and list coronavirus
Why has this threat been made?
You should be aware that the Office of National Statistics calculated this spring that an estimated 24% of coronavirus 'deaths' weren't actually coronavirus deaths. They revised that figure three weeks later to 30%"Once again, it is illegal to falsify information on not only a death certificate but in medical records in general. Doctors don't need to be told there will be consequences for doing so as it is drummed into them from day 1 of training. | |||
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If you display no obvious signs of being able to think critically, you really shouldn’t be talking about critical thinking.
I hope you have applied that principle to yourself Agent Smith
There’s no reason to doubt it. On the other hand, you’ve filled this thread with several clear examples illustrating you can’t think critically. So it’s an area you’d be wise to avoid highlighting further."give me one example that you can debunk and prove a lack of critical thought...ill wait | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths." Yep covid is so deadly that you have to find ways to boost the numbers to perpetuate the fear lol | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
I think you need to ask yourself why they haven't interviewed those who've died from the vaccine.
These posts just get funnier.
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Wish you would address the issues raised rather than drawing your conclusions on the basis of a miscommunicated sentence... i think the vaccine is having the required effect on this agent smith lol"I think your assertion that the young man on ITV news who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital is a fake, to be insulting to the man, to his family and to the NHS staff looking after him. I also think you were in such a rush to state your absurd conspiracy theory you didn't realise how daft it was. Hence requesting interviews with the dead. E | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths." Not in the ONS figures. | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths." These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths." Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point. | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point." What you just quoted from a UK governmental site does not mention anything about people died due to car accidents are being classified as covid deaths. Unless you mix the Data Dashboard in the quote for a car dashboard
Your conclusion is not derived by the UK government quote you just mentioned.
Trying to mix UK government info with whatever info you read from the US (regarding head gunshots) does not give any validity to your point that in the UK people who died due to car accidents were classified as having died from covid.
You just make up your own conclusions and you share them here.
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
I think you need to ask yourself why they haven't interviewed those who've died from the vaccine.
These posts just get funnier.
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Wish you would address the issues raised rather than drawing your conclusions on the basis of a miscommunicated sentence... i think the vaccine is having the required effect on this agent smith lol
I think your assertion that the young man on ITV news who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital is a fake, to be insulting to the man, to his family and to the NHS staff looking after him.
I also think you were in such a rush to state your absurd conspiracy theory you didn't realise how daft it was. Hence requesting interviews with the dead.
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point. What you just quoted from a UK governmental site does not mention anything about people died due to car accidents are being classified as covid deaths. Unless you mix the Data Dashboard in the quote for a car dashboard
Your conclusion is not derived by the UK government quote you just mentioned.
Trying to mix UK government info with whatever info you read from the US (regarding head gunshots) does not give any validity to your point that in the UK people who died due to car accidents were classified as having died from covid.
You just make up your own conclusions and you share them here.
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point." I take it your name sausage is in reference to your silliness? If you want the brutal truth Dearhs caused by covid are recorded in a manner where in reality we will likely look back in 10 years time and have 150% of the numbers currently charted for this period. There’s a whole swarm of patients who despite overcoming the virus have never recovered from the damage it’s done. Many die a month or so later in the ICU they never leave, likewise there’s 10s of thousands ‘survivors’ who will likely not last too many years with their 20% remaining lung function or heart conditions. If you die in a car crash, say thrown through your windscreen... you’re recorded as killed by a head trauma (or whatever the injury) If (and it’s a very big if) you had covid at the time it would get a mention on the certificate but you wouldn’t be counted amongst covid deaths. Hopefully that helps your brain settle down, there’s enough to be concerned about in this day and age without making some more crap up to worry on. X | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths." Where someone had previously been diagnosed within 28 days, the infection is listed on the certificate as a direct, underlying or non-relevant cause of death. In this instance the car accident and the physical trauma it created would be listed in part I as the direct cause of the death, covid would be listed in part II and its relevance indicated. | |||
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" If you die in a car crash, say thrown through your windscreen... you’re recorded as killed by a head trauma (or whatever the injury) If (and it’s a very big if) you had covid at the time it would get a mention on the certificate but you wouldn’t be counted amongst covid deaths. X" You got there before me! | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point. What you just quoted from a UK governmental site does not mention anything about people died due to car accidents are being classified as covid deaths. Unless you mix the Data Dashboard in the quote for a car dashboard
Your conclusion is not derived by the UK government quote you just mentioned.
Trying to mix UK government info with whatever info you read from the US (regarding head gunshots) does not give any validity to your point that in the UK people who died due to car accidents were classified as having died from covid.
You just make up your own conclusions and you share them here.
28 Days of a positive result..proof is in the pudding..die of car crash with 28 days and we will include you"Come on… Even you hardly believe such stuff. This is not logical thinking. Can’t find a reliable source that mentions your entire claim and all you have to say is that proof is in the pudding. | |||
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"The news are not reporting and making the general public aware of the thousands of vaccine injury’s or vaccine related deaths worldwide in people with no underlying medical problems! I guess it doesn’t suit their agenda does it! I thought it was about informed choice making! Show both sides of the coin then the truth! According to the ONS the number of deaths in England attributed to the Covid vaccines is currently zero. You’ve proved the above point perfectly Are you suggesting the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy? If so for what purpose? You don’t think a single death can be attributed to the vaccines? That wasn't my question. Do you believe the ONS are involved in a grand conspiracy?" Where have I suggested there is a grand conspiracy? What I have had concerns over throughout is the data we’ve been fed and that we’re expected to accept it without question. The fact the ONS haven’t attributed any deaths to the vaccine only clouds the issue in my opinion. | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. Yep covid is so deadly that you have to find ways to boost the numbers to perpetuate the fear lol" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ? | |||
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"fake news 100% all the hallmarks .. nobody has an ounce of critical thinking here do they
Was the young man on ITV news tonight who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital who said "I haven't been jab as I thought i wouldn't get ill because I'm young and healthy" also fake?
yep...if hes being interviewed for the sole purpose of promoting a vaccine and promoting fear to persuade people to take an experimental vaccine that protects you againts the equivalent of a lightning striking you (young people) then its 1000% fake.
Ask yourself why they have not interviewed the many that have had adverse effects or died from the vaccine or do you believe that fact is fake lol
I think you need to ask yourself why they haven't interviewed those who've died from the vaccine.
These posts just get funnier.
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Wish you would address the issues raised rather than drawing your conclusions on the basis of a miscommunicated sentence... i think the vaccine is having the required effect on this agent smith lol
I think your assertion that the young man on ITV news who was on oxygen after being admitted to hospital is a fake, to be insulting to the man, to his family and to the NHS staff looking after him.
I also think you were in such a rush to state your absurd conspiracy theory you didn't realise how daft it was. Hence requesting interviews with the dead.
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if you cannot dispel my theory other than to say it may upset staff and family.. then you have to take it as fact until otherwise proven...question everything...the same news source told you there was WMDs in Iraq..what if i toldyou at the time it was fake?"I don't think there's any need to dispel your theory, not that you posted it as a theory, but as a statement of fact. You talk about staying within the subject matter, then talk about WMD. Irony. I see no need to dispel your assertion that the story is fake. To suggest so is pretty out there on the "out there" scale. E | |||
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" if you cannot dispel my theory other than to say it may upset staff and family.. then you have to take it as fact until otherwise proven...question everything...the same news source told you there was WMDs in Iraq..what if i toldyou at the time it was fake?" Perhaps go and volunteer at your local trust, most are taking on helpers. Go spend some time with the patients, their families etc. As an ‘insider’ you’ll be able to blow this massive deception wide open... or indeed perhaps see the reality and feel utterly ashamed of your ridiculous peddling of utter crap. | |||
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" Where have I suggested there is a grand conspiracy? What I have had concerns over throughout is the data we’ve been fed and that we’re expected to accept it without question. The fact the ONS haven’t attributed any deaths to the vaccine only clouds the issue in my opinion. " I didn't say you had, I was asking if you believed there was a grand conspiracy. Whatever analysis or conclusion you want to place on the data, a couple of things are indisputable..the death and hospitalisation rates have fallen dramatically. There hasn't been a pandemic created by people who've been vaccinated although I'm sure there are people who've become ill following vaccination (this is already acknowledged), however they haven't placed the NHS into a crisis situation which is where it was eight months ago. | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ? "
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. These are crazy claims that even you avoid to share the source (s) of such claims. Go on share the links of where you have read this. Share the youtube and facebook links and the antivax sites that say that people who died due to car accidents have been counted as covid deaths. Straight from government website. " the COVID-19 Data Dashboard has been reporting, for England, all deaths in people who have a positive test. This a robust measure as it uses the fact of a positive test and the fact of death to derive the number reported." There you go. In the US I've seen in the news people suffered gunshots to the head, being counted as covid deaths because they tested positive at some point. What you just quoted from a UK governmental site does not mention anything about people died due to car accidents are being classified as covid deaths. Unless you mix the Data Dashboard in the quote for a car dashboard
Your conclusion is not derived by the UK government quote you just mentioned.
Trying to mix UK government info with whatever info you read from the US (regarding head gunshots) does not give any validity to your point that in the UK people who died due to car accidents were classified as having died from covid.
You just make up your own conclusions and you share them here.
28 Days of a positive result..proof is in the pudding..die of car crash with 28 days and we will include you"I may be missing something, the link you posted to prove what you stated, doesn't confirm your statement. | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!"Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’? Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either… | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either… "You will have to do better than that, there is no valid reason for this (and I think they have been awful) or any other government to fabricate figures to ‘perpetuate fear’ | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either… "Rather than answer a question with a question, just answer the actual question. E | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either… "Youre quite right and that prophesy came to pass, however as I said could you/someone provide a credible reason why a democratically elected government would want to perpetuate fear by making up a pandemic or inflating the numbers of people dying or becoming seriously ill from it? | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either…
You will have to do better than that, there is no valid reason for this (and I think they have been awful) or any other government to fabricate figures to ‘perpetuate fear’ "There have been no valid reasons for an awful lot of recent policies…except for the fear to maintain their justification | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either…
You will have to do better than that, there is no valid reason for this (and I think they have been awful) or any other government to fabricate figures to ‘perpetuate fear’
There have been no valid reasons for an awful lot of recent policies…except for the fear to maintain their justification "Due to Incompetence? A few don’t make sense but why would they make the figures look worse when it makes the government look bad? | |||
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" Why would ‘they’ want to ‘perpetuate the fear’? What is the purpose ? Who benefits ?
A question I'm still waiting to hear answered with any degree of credibility!
Perhaps the question should be reversed then - why wouldn’t ‘they’?
Yes I appreciate that doesn’t answer the question but if 2 years ago I’d have said a pandemic would soon come along and we’d leave the borders open and ignore the contingency plans developed over many years you wouldn’t have entertained that thought either…
You will have to do better than that, there is no valid reason for this (and I think they have been awful) or any other government to fabricate figures to ‘perpetuate fear’
There have been no valid reasons for an awful lot of recent policies…except for the fear to maintain their justification "I'm afraid then being risk averse I'll go with accepted wisdom from science and personal experience. The pandemic is real. It's affected millions. Since vaccine rollout the crisis appears to be abating, fewer are dying/hospitalised. The country and life is returning to 'normal', whatever that might be. It's alarming to speculate on where we might be now if the consensus had been ignored or trivialised as some appear to be advocating. | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths." There is absolutely no evidence of this. The only claims I have seen are from people on social media that normally start "my sister's friends uncle or my mum's old nextdoor neighbours hairdresser" | |||
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"Anyone that died within 28 days of a positive covid test has been counted as a covid death. This has lead to people getting into car accidents and dying and being count as covid deaths. There is absolutely no evidence of this. The only claims I have seen are from people on social media that normally start "my sister's friends uncle or my mum's old nextdoor neighbours hairdresser"" The issue was picked up by the BBC but finding a particular snippet on YouTube will be difficult They clearly state the number is people who have died within 28 days of a positive test, not specifically died of Covid, and there's a reason for the distinction between the 2 sentences | |||
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