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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to " The pandemic is over | |||
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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to The pandemic is over " Wearing a mask is a personal choice | |||
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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to The pandemic is over " It is?? Well you heard it here folks the poster above say's "the pandemic is over" so we can all ignore anyone who says otherwise | |||
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"No one has questioned me for wearing a mask. It's probably because even with the mask on I still look angry. " Same | |||
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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to The pandemic is over " Is it? Are you double jabbed? | |||
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"It is a personal choice, however your reasoning that you are protecting others is weird - do you have some reason to believe you are Covid +ve and infectious? Anyway, they did not confront you and only voiced an opinion to each other. If it had happened to me, it wouldn't be a big deal." When it's happened to me I've been shouted at. Fortunately only from vehicles in traffic so far. | |||
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"It is a personal choice, however your reasoning that you are protecting others is weird - do you have some reason to believe you are Covid +ve and infectious? Anyway, they did not confront you and only voiced an opinion to each other. If it had happened to me, it wouldn't be a big deal." Do you have some reason to believe that you are one hundred percent *not* COVID-positive and infectious? | |||
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"I don't care what people do so wear one or not, whatever The people who whine about those wearing masks are as pathetic as the one's whining at those that don't Life is really simple, leave people the fuck alone" If only it were so | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. " What about when someone's "own personal choice" is a direct threat to the health and life of people around them? Does posing a direct threat to the health and life of people around you make you feel good? Why does someone attempting to reduce they threat they pose to the health and life of the people around them make you think "mask wanker"? | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. " What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks " Any reason why you ‘especially keep my distance from those with masks’? | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks Any reason why you ‘especially keep my distance from those with masks’?" Is that not obvious? They have continued to wear a mask so I will rightly or wrongly assume that they may have an underlying health condition or are caring for someone with a condition or are maybe anxious or whatever reason they have continued to wear a mask. So I’d be a dick to get close to them with my unmasked face when they are continuing to wear one wouldn’t I? | |||
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"I wore a mask everywhere I went a couple of weeks ago as I was feeling unwell, turns out I had covid and probably avoided spreading it to numerous people I even wore outside while talking to my friend as such I didn't have to list her as a direct contact because I wore my mask. I think the moral is use common sense. FYI I'm double vaccinated." The right thing to do | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. " When I see someone in a public place not wearing a mask my first thought is "probably medically exempt" My second thought is "probably not, probably just a wanker" | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks Any reason why you ‘especially keep my distance from those with masks’? Is that not obvious? They have continued to wear a mask so I will rightly or wrongly assume that they may have an underlying health condition or are caring for someone with a condition or are maybe anxious or whatever reason they have continued to wear a mask. So I’d be a dick to get close to them with my unmasked face when they are continuing to wear one wouldn’t I? " That’s true, I will continue to wear mine in busy places, most places still require you to wear them | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks Any reason why you ‘especially keep my distance from those with masks’? Is that not obvious? They have continued to wear a mask so I will rightly or wrongly assume that they may have an underlying health condition or are caring for someone with a condition or are maybe anxious or whatever reason they have continued to wear a mask. So I’d be a dick to get close to them with my unmasked face when they are continuing to wear one wouldn’t I? That’s true, I will continue to wear mine in busy places, most places still require you to wear them " Good for you | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about people driving their own cars (not a taxi), on their own and wearing a mask? I don’t get it but then it’s not my business. I haven’t worn a mask since “freedom day” but I do keep my distance from others and I especially keep my distance from those in masks Any reason why you ‘especially keep my distance from those with masks’? Is that not obvious? They have continued to wear a mask so I will rightly or wrongly assume that they may have an underlying health condition or are caring for someone with a condition or are maybe anxious or whatever reason they have continued to wear a mask. So I’d be a dick to get close to them with my unmasked face when they are continuing to wear one wouldn’t I? That’s true, I will continue to wear mine in busy places, most places still require you to wear them Good for you " Thanks, you have to wear them on public transport , so it’s no big deal | |||
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"I wore a mask everywhere I went a couple of weeks ago as I was feeling unwell, turns out I had covid and probably avoided spreading it to numerous people I even wore outside while talking to my friend as such I didn't have to list her as a direct contact because I wore my mask. I think the moral is use common sense. FYI I'm double vaccinated." | |||
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"Forgetting Covid for a second, has anyone who suffers from hayfever had it as bad this year as they usually would have? While I don't like wearing a mask (unless for fun reasons ) I do believe it has helped with my hayfever symptoms, when normally I would've suffered big time - I've basically not suffered with it at all. And that does get me thinking about all the cold germs people spread without thinking about it while getting on with everyday life - I haven't had a cold since before lockdown (I worked all through lockdown) and I usually suffer from 3 or 4 mega colds a year. Maybe this mask wearing thing isn't all bad lol " My allergies have been a lot less severe and I've had a lot less in the way of sniffles. It makes sense. | |||
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" My allergies have been a lot less severe and I've had a lot less in the way of sniffles. It makes sense." At least it's not just me I'm wishfully hoping my hayfever has done a runner for good, but I expect it'll be back with a vengeance at some point, so I may keep the mask wearing up regardless. | |||
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" My allergies have been a lot less severe and I've had a lot less in the way of sniffles. It makes sense. At least it's not just me I'm wishfully hoping my hayfever has done a runner for good, but I expect it'll be back with a vengeance at some point, so I may keep the mask wearing up regardless. " Getting less crap up your nose helps, I'm sure | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. When I see someone in a public place not wearing a mask my first thought is "probably medically exempt" My second thought is "probably not, probably just a wanker"" Harsh | |||
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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to The pandemic is over " Today, Thursday 29th July, there were 31,117 recorded new cases and 85 people sadly lost their lives within 28 days of a positive diagnosis of Covid-19. Saying the pandemic is over is not supported by the facts. | |||
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"Haven't wore it since I legally haven't had to. Mask wearing is awful for me. I panic, sweat like fuck and feel like I'm going to pass out after 5 minutes. Saved me a fortune in shopping cause its in and out, essentials only " plus they can be unhygienic, lots of kids in school got sores around their mouth and face wearing them all day. And they typical mask is made of polypropylene so you can do your own risk assessment on that . And if anyone still wants to wear them , well the best best of luck to them as that’s their own choice. | |||
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"I don't care what people do so wear one or not, whatever The people who whine about those wearing masks are as pathetic as the one's whining at those that don't Life is really simple, leave people the fuck alone" Hahaha Something I've been shouting, even before the pandemic | |||
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"I don't care what people do so wear one or not, whatever The people who whine about those wearing masks are as pathetic as the one's whining at those that don't Life is really simple, leave people the fuck alone" Bang on! | |||
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"It is a personal choice, however your reasoning that you are protecting others is weird - do you have some reason to believe you are Covid +ve and infectious? Anyway, they did not confront you and only voiced an opinion to each other. If it had happened to me, it wouldn't be a big deal." Any of us could be infected, whether jabbed or not - this is particularly true with the Delta variant, which is much more infectious. And especially so, whilst the UK is burned with the growth in infection levels equivalent to the winter time passed. You call investing personal efforts to help to protect others 'weird'. Most people would view the opposite as weird. It's positive that community spirit remains strong and so many people are using their intelligence wisely and wearing masks, getting vaccinated etc. | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about when someone's "own personal choice" is a direct threat to the health and life of people around them? Does posing a direct threat to the health and life of people around you make you feel good? Why does someone attempting to reduce they threat they pose to the health and life of the people around them make you think "mask wanker"? " Projection seems the primitive coping mechanism of choice, for some of them | |||
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"The holier than thou attitudes are getting a little tiresome. If you smoke, speed, buy cheap clothes, drive cars, use a plane, buy illegal drugs, use a diesel car, you a damaging somebody somewhere. Covid is not the only threat to health on the planet right now" Agreed. | |||
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"The holier than thou attitudes are getting a little tiresome. If you smoke, speed, buy cheap clothes, drive cars, use a plane, buy illegal drugs, use a diesel car, you a damaging somebody somewhere. Covid is not the only threat to health on the planet right now" In this particular instance I just want to put what I want on my face and be left to it. Make my own risk assessment and get on with it. I've never said a word to anyone not wearing a mask, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy. | |||
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"Everyone should be entitled to their own personal choice. Tbf if I do see someone wearing a mask esp outdoors I think Mask Wanker but I wouldn’t say that to them. Do what makes you feel good. I feel better when I’m not wearing one. What about when someone's "own personal choice" is a direct threat to the health and life of people around them? Does posing a direct threat to the health and life of people around you make you feel good? Why does someone attempting to reduce they threat they pose to the health and life of the people around them make you think "mask wanker"? " Too right. | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them!" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right?" Agreed. If you don't like my mask, don't look. | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Agreed. If you don't like my mask, don't look." I do need sunglasses to look at your mask, actually. I demand you tone it down, lady | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Agreed. If you don't like my mask, don't look. I do need sunglasses to look at your mask, actually. I demand you tone it down, lady " | |||
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" My allergies have been a lot less severe and I've had a lot less in the way of sniffles. It makes sense. At least it's not just me I'm wishfully hoping my hayfever has done a runner for good, but I expect it'll be back with a vengeance at some point, so I may keep the mask wearing up regardless. " I’ve had no sniffles during the restrictions, last weekend I went to a friends house for a birthday party. It was held outside in his garden. The amount of bees should have been warning. My hay fever has hit me with a vengeance. | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them!" Simply not true. This pandemic is far from over, and continues to accelerate all over the world, killing millions, with the potential for new variants that can evade vaccines very high. Meanwhile people are still vulnerable, dieing, getting ill in this country and over 1m have long covid (old and young alike). Viruses constantly mutate and whilst we will slowly win this battle, we'll win it more quickly if we continue to take precautions. If we don't the virus will bounce back, new variants, new restrictions. Masks reduce transmission by 30%, so it's a simple way of staying on top of the virus and letting the vaccines do their job, whilst we can still go about our business. Masks in support of vaccines are the quickest and easiest path back to normality, but this will take years not months. | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Agreed. If you don't like my mask, don't look. I do need sunglasses to look at your mask, actually. I demand you tone it down, lady " What about my mask then? Is that on the "welding goggles needed" list? | |||
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"I've been an advocate of masks. In the early days, I think masks were important. We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. This virus barely affects anybody else. Masks are no longer of much value. I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Agreed. If you don't like my mask, don't look. I do need sunglasses to look at your mask, actually. I demand you tone it down, lady What about my mask then? Is that on the "welding goggles needed" list?" Yep | |||
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"We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated." Are they? *Are they?* Are you *absolutely sure*? Because there are people who are so at-risk they can’t have the vaccine. There are also people who are at risk, and can have the vaccine, but for whom the vaccine simply doesn’t work. I am specifically thinking of a friend of mine whose immune system is so compromised that even though she’s fully vaccinated, her body is mounting zero immune response. If she catches COVID, she *will* die, vaccine or or no vaccine. No two ways about it. "This virus barely affects anybody else." Apart from all millions of people with long COVID, you mean? Whose lives are permanently changed by the virus that “barely effects anybody else”? Forgive yet more anecdata, but I know two people – both young, both fit, both in good health – who caught the virus early in the pandemic and now have apparently permanent disabilities as a direct result. " Masks are no longer of much value […] I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks." I refer you to a previous post I made about checking what these statements actually mean. “Helping protect other people from the deadly pandemic is no longer of much value […] I no longer help protect other people from the deadly pandemic and would encourage others to dispense with helping protect other people from the deadly pandemic.” "We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them!" Characterising people as being scared or frightened is a bad-faith attempt to shame people into changing their behaviour that didn’t work in the playground and doesn’t work now. Are people who use oven gloves “frightened” of their oven? Are people who look both ways before crossing the road “scared” of cars? Grow up. And once again, there’s that evil little “hardly anybody” weasel phrase. How many is that? How many are you willing to kill because you don’t want to wear a mask? Nasty, nasty, nasty. | |||
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"We now have a population where the most at-risk are fully vaccinated. Are they? *Are they?* Are you *absolutely sure*? Because there are people who are so at-risk they can’t have the vaccine. There are also people who are at risk, and can have the vaccine, but for whom the vaccine simply doesn’t work. I am specifically thinking of a friend of mine whose immune system is so compromised that even though she’s fully vaccinated, her body is mounting zero immune response. If she catches COVID, she *will* die, vaccine or or no vaccine. No two ways about it. This virus barely affects anybody else. Apart from all millions of people with long COVID, you mean? Whose lives are permanently changed by the virus that “barely effects anybody else”? Forgive yet more anecdata, but I know two people – both young, both fit, both in good health – who caught the virus early in the pandemic and now have apparently permanent disabilities as a direct result. Masks are no longer of much value […] I no longer wear a mask and would encourage others to dispense with masks. I refer you to a previous post I made about checking what these statements actually mean. “Helping protect other people from the deadly pandemic is no longer of much value […] I no longer help protect other people from the deadly pandemic and would encourage others to dispense with helping protect other people from the deadly pandemic.” We need to get back to normal, and stop being so fearful of a now largely insignificant virus which makes hardly anybody seriously ill, nor kills them! Characterising people as being scared or frightened is a bad-faith attempt to shame people into changing their behaviour that didn’t work in the playground and doesn’t work now. Are people who use oven gloves “frightened” of their oven? Are people who look both ways before crossing the road “scared” of cars? Grow up. And once again, there’s that evil little “hardly anybody” weasel phrase. How many is that? How many are you willing to kill because you don’t want to wear a mask? Nasty, nasty, nasty. " Totally agree fear shaming seems to be the new trend which is disgusting. anyone who's trying to fear shame people into not taking the precautions that that seems necessary wants to give themselves a good hard look in the mirror. | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right?" Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! " In your opinion not mine and many others. | |||
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" The pandemic is over " its ok everyone, he said its over, and im sure knows more than all the scientists, so relax everyone. we all know that masks were more about stopping the spread to others, less about protecting yourself, how do you know you arent carrying the virus. heartwarming to see your love and care for fellow humans | |||
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" The pandemic is over its ok everyone, he said its over, and im sure knows more than all the scientists, so relax everyone. we all know that masks were more about stopping the spread to others, less about protecting yourself, how do you know you arent carrying the virus. heartwarming to see your love and care for fellow humans " Even if I was carrying the virus, statistically, even if I passed it on to somebody, that person is unlikely to die, become seriously ill, be hospitalised or even show symptoms. You could use the same argument for seasonal flu or any other transmissible disease, but for some reason, covid gets special treatment. As I said, masks were useful before mass vaccination. Vaccination has changed things significantly. You can always find examples of immuno-suppressed individuals and special cases, but we can't run society that way. If we did, we'd have to ban driving or anything that poses some form of risk or danger. | |||
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"I plan to mask in certain cases during flu season. Personal choice and responsibility. I won't be told what to do." I'm not telling you not to! Your choice to do so as is mine not to. However, which of us is most likely to be challenged in a supermarket or other public place for transgressing? If shops and public places could treat the unmasked as they do the masked, I'll be happy. | |||
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"I plan to mask in certain cases during flu season. Personal choice and responsibility. I won't be told what to do. I'm not telling you not to! Your choice to do so as is mine not to. However, which of us is most likely to be challenged in a supermarket or other public place for transgressing? If shops and public places could treat the unmasked as they do the masked, I'll be happy." Why should they do that? Only one camp is wilfully endangering the other. "If shops and public places could treat spree shooters as they do people who aren't spree shooters, I'll be happy!" | |||
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"I plan to mask in certain cases during flu season. Personal choice and responsibility. I won't be told what to do. I'm not telling you not to! Your choice to do so as is mine not to. However, which of us is most likely to be challenged in a supermarket or other public place for transgressing? If shops and public places could treat the unmasked as they do the masked, I'll be happy." Shops and public places have a right to set their own terms of entry. Always have. The owners may disagree with the government on this. Their freedom matters too. Also, I've been hassled for wearing a mask on multiple occasions, including during the winter peak. I've never, ever said a word to someone not wearing a mask (yes I talk about it on the forum. I mean in public). I just step away. | |||
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"I plan to mask in certain cases during flu season. Personal choice and responsibility. I won't be told what to do. I'm not telling you not to! Your choice to do so as is mine not to. However, which of us is most likely to be challenged in a supermarket or other public place for transgressing? If shops and public places could treat the unmasked as they do the masked, I'll be happy. Shops and public places have a right to set their own terms of entry. Always have. The owners may disagree with the government on this. Their freedom matters too. Also, I've been hassled for wearing a mask on multiple occasions, including during the winter peak. I've never, ever said a word to someone not wearing a mask (yes I talk about it on the forum. I mean in public). I just step away." Nobody should be hassled either way. However, the matter is worthy of debate. | |||
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"I plan to mask in certain cases during flu season. Personal choice and responsibility. I won't be told what to do. I'm not telling you not to! Your choice to do so as is mine not to. However, which of us is most likely to be challenged in a supermarket or other public place for transgressing? If shops and public places could treat the unmasked as they do the masked, I'll be happy. Shops and public places have a right to set their own terms of entry. Always have. The owners may disagree with the government on this. Their freedom matters too. Also, I've been hassled for wearing a mask on multiple occasions, including during the winter peak. I've never, ever said a word to someone not wearing a mask (yes I talk about it on the forum. I mean in public). I just step away. Nobody should be hassled either way. However, the matter is worthy of debate." Sure. Which is why I discuss it on a forum. I don't bother people. But I refer you to my previous point. Businesses can set their own terms of entry. If they want to require face coverings, that's within their remit. (I've yet to see one) | |||
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" But I refer you to my previous point. Businesses can set their own terms of entry. If they want to require face coverings, that's within their remit. (I've yet to see one)" They can. But it's discriminatory, and can be subverted by simply declaring an exemption. Therefore, it would be better for shops to declare their policy, but to leave people well alone who do not wish to comply. | |||
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" But I refer you to my previous point. Businesses can set their own terms of entry. If they want to require face coverings, that's within their remit. (I've yet to see one) They can. But it's discriminatory, and can be subverted by simply declaring an exemption. Therefore, it would be better for shops to declare their policy, but to leave people well alone who do not wish to comply." So what's the point in having a policy? Is this not reverting to "I don't think people should wear masks because I believe this is no longer an issue"? I believe that exemptions have been politicised and vulnerable people (again!) thrown under the bus, but that's a whole other issue | |||
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"May I ask what all of your opinions are on people who can't be jabbed due to underlying health conditions, I can't have the jab due to being allergic to a few of the ingredients but am on a course of Ivermectin to combat it.....so in some eyes I'm a wanker then" Why would anyone think that? | |||
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"May I ask what all of your opinions are on people who can't be jabbed due to underlying health conditions, I can't have the jab due to being allergic to a few of the ingredients but am on a course of Ivermectin to combat it.....so in some eyes I'm a wanker then" I hope that one of the four jabs might work for you. Failing that, others are in clinical trials and I hope you can stay safe until then. I mask for the vulnerable, and that includes anyone not vaccinated. I'm concerned about the paucity of evidence for ivermectin, but that's not a comment on you. | |||
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"May I ask what all of your opinions are on people who can't be jabbed due to underlying health conditions, I can't have the jab due to being allergic to a few of the ingredients but am on a course of Ivermectin to combat it.....so in some eyes I'm a wanker then" You have covid? | |||
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"Ivermectin has been a godsend for me plus my GP regularly checks on me every 4 weeks, bloods and CV test which I don't mind doing xx" Ok. The plural of anecdote is not data. You do you. | |||
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"Nope, the course of Ivermectin I'm on has kept Auntie Rona away from me for over a year now" I hope that the experiment you're on is being closely monitored by trained researchers. The quality of data on ivermectin is miniscule. If it does actually work so well, then you could be saving millions of lives. If it's not - goodness big pharma has a lot to answer for, putting people on indefinite courses of medication, racking up the bills, rather than researching cures. How unethical | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! " My block list is getting longer. | |||
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"I'm being monitored by my GP, bloods and CV tests every 4 weeks so being kept an eye on lmao, in regards to big pharma though, they do have a lot to answer though after the Pfizer leaks" I thought Merk produced ivermectin. Huh. Is your GP through the NHS? Because I'm pretty sure that would be a breach of their guidelines on what can be prescribed. Whoever is paying for it - gosh, vaccines would be much cheaper. Big pharma is being seriously enriched by these ongoing treatments. If you're on a clinical trial, I thank you for your brave risk to your health - you're far braver than me, and I'm on a vaccine trial. The data is incredibly iffy on ivermectin and I wouldn't dare risk my life on something like that. You truly are a courageous soul, putting your life in peril. I wish you strength. | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! " Thank goodness this sort of thought-free opinion seems limited to the ‘fringe’ of society. | |||
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"Thank you for you support, the only peeps who have supported me in this is my mum and wikkle sis (she's 24 lol but still wikkle to me lol) other family members & friends have certainly showed their true colours to me over this xx" I'll continue to wear my mask for you, given your complete vulnerability. I help build a wall around the frail. Be well. | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term." It's likely impossible to live our lives in a way that has zero negative effect on some others somewhere. On the other hand, it's very easy to wear a mask... | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term. It's likely impossible to live our lives in a way that has zero negative effect on some others somewhere. On the other hand, it's very easy to wear a mask..." So, because its hard that makes it okay? I wore a mask all throughout while legally required despite having almost debilitating panic attacks every single time I put it on. It would have been easier, to just not bother. I however, haven't decided to sit on my high horse and use it as a stick to beat others. My point stands, all actions have consequences that could hurt others. If you participate in any of them, you can't get lofty about others. | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term. It's likely impossible to live our lives in a way that has zero negative effect on some others somewhere. On the other hand, it's very easy to wear a mask... So, because its hard that makes it okay? I wore a mask all throughout while legally required despite having almost debilitating panic attacks every single time I put it on. It would have been easier, to just not bother. I however, haven't decided to sit on my high horse and use it as a stick to beat others. My point stands, all actions have consequences that could hurt others. If you participate in any of them, you can't get lofty about others." Your point is v silly. Short of living in caves, growing all our own food, making everything we use etc, it's near impossible to avoid affecting others in some way. | |||
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" Your point is v silly. Short of living in caves, growing all our own food, making everything we use etc, it's near impossible to avoid affecting others in some way." Yet you judge others for doing it on a lesser level? It's hypocritical to do something that causes a lot of well publicised suffering while judging others that are doing the same. Is the convenience of having a smart phone in your pocket really worth a human life? People refusing to mask up may just want that same convenience. | |||
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" Your point is v silly. Short of living in caves, growing all our own food, making everything we use etc, it's near impossible to avoid affecting others in some way.Yet you judge others for doing it on a lesser level? It's hypocritical to do something that causes a lot of well publicised suffering while judging others that are doing the same. Is the convenience of having a smart phone in your pocket really worth a human life? People refusing to mask up may just want that same convenience." What on Earth are you even talking about? For most people, it's v easy to wear a mask when needed. It's hardly a great and terrible trial. Yes, some people are physically or mentally unable to wear them. But that's an entirely different case to the vastly bigger number of people who can wear them but simply can't be bothered to. | |||
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"Do you judge someone not wearing a mask? " People should wear masks when they're beneficial if they're able to wear them. I think that sums it up. You're still trying to spin this as judgement or hypocrisy. It's simply a matter of public health. We're in a pandemic. Masks help. For most people, masks are easy. That's all. | |||
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"I still wear a mask i work in care and having the Elderly to care for. so thats my choice like you say we are still in a Pandemic i will give up my mask when im ready to The pandemic is over " I didn't know, thanks for letting me know. | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! " My son (18, healthy) has symptoms and tested positive for Covid over the weekend. It's not over. | |||
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"My only gripe with masks is the judgement on either side. That's why I'm "spinning" it that way. Those judging others don't know why that individual doesn't have a mask on. I wore mine throughout when I had too. I'm however very glad it's not required now, I will also likely avoid places that make it mandatory to wear one, it wasn't pleasant for me during winter, the latest heatwave would have made it a lot worse. " Medical staff are wearing not only surgical masks, but full FFP3 masks and full-body PPE during the heatwave. I wear a surgical mask for the duration of the vaccine clinics I work at and I was there, jabbing people, when the outdoor temperature was 32°C. It's really not that bad. | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term." So because people do bad things, we can't try to improve the world? Uh, no. | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term." Wow this | |||
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"Most of the people on this thread harping on about masks saving people are posting from a smart phone, tablet or laptop, assembled in a factory/sweat shop with awful conditions, made from metals pulled from the earth by workers making a pittance, yet, will happily Lord it over those who make the choice not to wear a mask. All actions have consequences, don't pretend the human and planetary cost to living your first world life is exempt from that. The devices that make your life easier have caused more suffering than covid ever has but out of sight, out of mind. Unless you life your life in a way that causes zero impact on humanity or the environment, get off your high horse, you can't really toss around the selfish term." However some people at least try. And some people just make up excuses why they shouldn't even try. | |||
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"Nope, the course of Ivermectin I'm on has kept Auntie Rona away from me for over a year now" You may be fortunate, from having that unproven drug or good fortune, helped by the restrictions and vaccines, that have helped to keep us all safer. The major study that seemed to show a possible benefit from Ivermectin had its preprint results pulled by the publisher, stating plagiariasm and that the numbers didn't add up. That 'study' was the main driver for other meta-analyses finding a possible benefit, when others found nothing, so it's presently just a hyped up puff-piece, that a team used to leverage its way to get international attention. Sadly, they now have the attention on their cobbled together numbers that don't equate to anything, as well as someone having been busy with copying and pasting from published works. Bit of a sad ballsup, if it does help people. | |||
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" Why would you encourage others to dispense with masks when it has zero impact on you and your day if someone chooses to wear fabric or whatever over their face? Would you question someone wearing sunglasses indoors? Or sandals when it's raining? Or if they're wearing any other garment or item you've decided isn't quite right? Because seeing people walking around in public and even driving reinforces and perpetuates the idea that this virus is still in some way a significant threat. It simply isn't. It's basically over. We need to move on from this and quickly. Life needs to return to normal; not "new normal". If people want to continue to wear a mask, that's their choice, but it's making scant difference, and just keeps up the fear level, which is why the govt wanted a population muzzled in the first place. I wouldn't go up to somebody to tell them not to wear a mask, but I've been approached and asked why I'm not wearing one, so the intolerance seems to be solely towards those who choose not to be masked! Time to move on! " It should be no surprise that there's a difference. Not wearing masks is helping to fuel someone's harm. Wearing a mask does not and, like vaccination, is helping the country to recover. | |||
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"The pandemic's over!" I will only believe that when someone posts it followed by 'Fact'! | |||
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"The pandemic's over! I will only believe that when someone posts it followed by 'Fact'!" In caps, because capslock is cruise control for cool? | |||
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"My only gripe with masks is the judgement on either side. That's why I'm "spinning" it that way. Those judging others don't know why that individual doesn't have a mask on. I wore mine throughout when I had too. I'm however very glad it's not required now, I will also likely avoid places that make it mandatory to wear one, it wasn't pleasant for me during winter, the latest heatwave would have made it a lot worse. Medical staff are wearing not only surgical masks, but full FFP3 masks and full-body PPE during the heatwave. I wear a surgical mask for the duration of the vaccine clinics I work at and I was there, jabbing people, when the outdoor temperature was 32°C. It's really not that bad." Good for them/you. I'll be sure to keep it in mind next time I'm on verge of passing out and having a full blown panic attack, oh wait I won't because I don't give a shit if it's easy for anyone else. I hope you have the same bedside manner and consideration for anyone who has a panic attack or medical condition while you're dishing out vaccines | |||
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