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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

.. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

I think its a great idea. No whinging from me lol

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Suits me

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Not bothered .... way past my clubbing days ha ha .... won’t happen anyway

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

Well that is going to scupper some people’s lifestyle…

I don’t mind

We always talk about decisions having consequences… well here it is!!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We should have moved more quickly to create opportunities that were safer and less likely to fuel a grotesque viral spreading cycle.

UK is 3rd in the world, in the past week or so, behind Brazil and Indonesia. Johnson wanted us on the world stage again

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"We should have moved more quickly to create opportunities that were safer and less likely to fuel a grotesque viral spreading cycle.

UK is 3rd in the world, in the past week or so, behind Brazil and Indonesia. Johnson wanted us on the world stage again "

I'd prefer to be around people who have taken steps to help the wider community, even if it means testing for entry too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this is a great idea.

We are both double vaccinated and heard just now under 12s with medical issues can book soon so hoping my son can be jabbed in the coming days.

Should have been enforced sooner.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Great idea!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

Hahaha

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

Completely the right choice to my mind. Three million plus eighteen year olds currently not vaccinated so it should give them time to have it done by then.

Expecting same announcements about public transport and supermarkets and pubs after the Summer.. Again the right thing to do as far as Im concerned.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

Are you really still questioning whether the vaccines work? The data is VERY clear that they are working even better than expected.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

Because having the jabs reduces transmission and lessons symptoms. I think it’s a good idea

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

No whingeing from here.

I have no desire to be in a room full of un-tested, un-vaccinated people if I can help it.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself!

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

Good luck with your court case

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

Asymptomatic spread is a problem.

To the unvaccinated.

Much less of a problem to those who are fully vaccinated.

Because........vaccines.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

It greatly reduces the chance of catching and transmitting the virus and if people are double jabbed, they are less likely of being seriously ill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same time last year 63 cases per day 0 people jabbed currently 23k per day. Once again check for yourself the info is there if you look.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! "
if you just watched on tv they explain why. Get the full facts. At the end of the day if you don’t want the jab I said want not can’t then be prepared not to be allowed entry to these venues

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

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I'm going to hazard a guess and say you've never read the Act you're referring to.

E

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

The Equality Act covers the following characteristics: age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex and sexual orientation.

I don't think vaccine refusal falls under any of that, although I'm sure there will be test cases on it.

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By *iobhan123Woman
over a year ago

Deal


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

If it gets them in the vaccination site, all good

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case"

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto.

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

Erm… how?

The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability

So what part of not having a jab comes under those?

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto. "

Dream on….

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

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I think you will find you wont be able to.. They already working out a way to stop it

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Mind you only the double jabbed are being admitted to hospital with Covid ha ha .... so they won’t be going anywhere

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol deaths in double jabbed currently outnumber un jabbed massively. Once again check the jab has no effect on mortality if you read the study that only lasted 5 weeks BTW. The only this that was looked at was reduction of mild symptoms. You can check for yourself again not words on every jab manufacturer study notes

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto. "

So if clubs are required to institute safety measures, you want them to be forced to close?

Lovely.

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "

You can phone 119 and ask for a paper copy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

Where does this information come from?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper!

You can phone 119 and ask for a paper copy"

Or the NHS app in England (unless - for now - you were jabbed through a clinical trial)

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! "

That is because the majority of people have been jabbed… smaller number from larger pool…ect

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "

Download the normal nhs app it has your vaccine details and your covid pass on there and a host of normal nhs stuff like being able to order repeat medication direct from the app

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

Where does this information come from? "

On BBC news channel..from Mr Johnson!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lol deaths in double jabbed currently outnumber un jabbed massively. Once again check the jab has no effect on mortality if you read the study that only lasted 5 weeks BTW. The only this that was looked at was reduction of mild symptoms. You can check for yourself again not words on every jab manufacturer study notes"

Do you understand that the majority of people ha e already been double jabbed? Therefore death rates from natural causes are always going to be higher, it’s not difficult to understand…

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

Where does this information come from? "

Fabio is like the oracle in the matrix.

He sees and knows everything

In a good way,I love reading his post's.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto. "

That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Good, hideous places.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Erm… how?

The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability

So what part of not having a jab comes under those? "

it comes under the same reference of people that your discrimating at

its the same as disability where a group of people are in a set group

therefore the no jab people become a set group of people that is being denied

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto. "

Wrong, but why let that stop your rage?

Also, what a shitty attitude.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I like the fact that tesco are keeping a quieter shopping hour for those who are vulnerable and potentially cannot have the vaccine due to serious health issues, maybe nightclubs and other crowded places should start doing a night for them being we are all for equality and all, Instead of all this us and them BS

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

Anyone needing proof can apply for a paper copy to be sent out free of charge on the nhs site

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

“papers, please”

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Only a few weeks to get 2 million students double vaccinated and certificated before freshers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not when you look at case numbers.

54k un jabbed with positive test 44 deaths withing 28 days

7k double jabbed with positive test 53 deaths

And more again for one jab, you can check this all on the yellow card reports and on public health England. Not numbers pulled out of the air all on the government website. Go and check don't just argue with me lol

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby


"“papers, please”"

Pubs, restaurants, universities, places of worship, swinger venues, house parties ….

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"I like the fact that tesco are keeping a quieter shopping hour for those who are vulnerable and potentially cannot have the vaccine due to serious health issues, maybe nightclubs and other crowded places should start doing a night for them being we are all for equality and all, Instead of all this us and them BS "

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

60 percent in hospital are those who have been double vaccinated so regardless even if a person who has had both and allowed in clubs because no social distance it's going to spread like wildfire as stated by Van so where does any be cautious go

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"“papers, please”"

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E"

Easy look into the clubs licenses

Where a license has to be agreed by the council

Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination.

Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

What about people who work in or even own nightclubs who cannot for medical reasons have the vaccine???

By the way I work in the industry and I know a LOT of people who are falling into that bracket.

The real winners in this (as always) are going to be the legal industry

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Erm… how?

The equality act covers gender, sexuality, age, race, religion and disability

So what part of not having a jab comes under those?

it comes under the same reference of people that your discrimating at

its the same as disability where a group of people are in a set group

therefore the no jab people become a set group of people that is being denied"

No.. but no jab people who can’t for medical reasons will get an exemption I am guessing doctors will be able to supply those….

So you will have to find another excuse

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. "

I do believe the announcement is "vaccine proof is required for night clubs" not "you will be lined up and forcibly jabbed"

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. "

Do you think if a vaccine had been available at the time of the bubonic plague people would have refused to take it ? complaining that they deserve to have the choice is nonsense, let's eradicate the virus .

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E"

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. "

They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

Cracking idea, it's a matter of public safety and health, it needs to be done and kept in place until this virus either mutates itself to death or we get control of it, this crap about creating a divid is rubbish the antivax movement created that divide ages ago and have been fooling people into their way of thinking ever since, they are the people causing the divide with their misinformation and lies that put not only the people that follow them at risk but also the wider population of the planet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection"

Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This guy

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences "

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection"

You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference?

Or Papers to drive for example?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door."

If it's the law, they'll be shut down if they don't

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"“papers, please”"

Weird response?

Have you never been abroad then?

Most countries across the world needed you to show 'papers' before Covid and pretty much everyone was okay about that.. No reason for them not to be doing it in the UK now is there?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door."

It's not exactly through the backdoor, he announced it on national television.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door."

I've been out in London a number of times since lockdown lifted and everywhere I went there was absolutely NO entry without checking into the covid app. Believe it or not, business are actually complying.

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"“papers, please”

Pubs, restaurants, universities, places of worship, swinger venues, house parties …. "

They still have the choice not to take it…. you can now call those things “added benefits”

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E

Easy look into the clubs licenses

Where a license has to be agreed by the council

Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination.

Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade."

But any venue doesn't have to give a reason not to let someone in without having to explain

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E

Easy look into the clubs licenses

Where a license has to be agreed by the council

Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination.

Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade."

This will be required by law so good luck fighting that.

Councils are already making the covid pass a requirement for clubs to reopen.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E

Easy look into the clubs licenses

Where a license has to be agreed by the council

Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination.

Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade."

You haven't explained how an Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation affects your assertion regarding vaccination.

Because being vaccinated has nothing to do with any of those individuals.

E

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof? "

You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yeah because I am sure clubs and other venues in heavy competition with others will keep turning away unvaccinated people….talk about forcing the experimental vaccines for a virus with a 98% survival rate through the back door.

I've been out in London a number of times since lockdown lifted and everywhere I went there was absolutely NO entry without checking into the covid app. Believe it or not, business are actually complying. "

Further to this, imagine what it would do to a venue's reputation if they were known as a covid hotspot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people?

That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

Do you think if a vaccine had been available at the time of the bubonic plague people would have refused to take it ? complaining that they deserve to have the choice is nonsense, let's eradicate the virus ."

There is a little bit of a difference between the bubonic plague and covid you know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I canget in anywhere I like lol

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Mind you only the double jabbed are being admitted to hospital with Covid ha ha .... so they won’t be going anywhere "

What a load of bs, its not ONLY those that have been double jabbed that are being admitted to hospital at all and the majority of the double jabbed that are being hospitalised still are either the old or have comorbidities which place them in the high risk groups anyway and atleast being double vaccinated gives people in those groups a better chance of surviving even if they are still hospitalised.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It obviously doesn't double jabbed out number cases and deaths as announced by public health England. Not my words you can check for yourself! if you just watched on tv they explain why. Get the full facts. At the end of the day if you don’t want the jab I said want not can’t then be prepared not to be allowed entry to these venues "

Exactly. Well said. With actions or lack of them in this case come consequences. Be prepared for them and no whinging please.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people?

That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "

One, it's not mandatory. You just can't go certain places, which are optional.

Two, any approved vaccination is by definition not experimental - all stages have been passed. Don't believe the nonsense some people post online. (As someone who is currently in an actual clinical trial... you'd know if you were. Lots of blood tests and even more dead trees for my participation)

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof?

You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? "

No need to print, you can use them from your phone. You can also order a paper copy.

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By *oDaveQuestSwingCouple
over a year ago

Leeds


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

Haha

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'm glad the government have taken a stand and are not just throwing the night time industry under the proverbial bus

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By *dysseusukMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it. "

They do still have a choice to have the vaccine or not. They just won't have the choice to go to nightclubs if they haven't been vaccinated. Call it discrimination if you like; I don't really have any sympathy. For a few years, our collective health as a society is more important, and the quicker we we accept that responsibility the quicker cases will reduce, the virus becomes endemic and full normality and individual liberty can return in full.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Good luck with your court case

Court case will be against the club so can force it to shut down.

So no club for you to goto. "

Again. Good luck with your court case and have plenty of money for the lawyers because you will need it.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people?

That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "

You should read the yellow card scheme site fully.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "

Quite simple really. Download the NHS app. All the information is there if you have been double jabbed

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By *revaunanceCouple
over a year ago

Exeter


"So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

If people choose to enter an environment where the conditions are right to spread covid, they will be protected from the effects of the virus by being vaccinated.

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By *jfrenchMan
over a year ago

Stockport

Most opinions on here are dividing people into the "chose to get vaccinated" and the "choosing not to be vaccinated" groups. As indeed does the official 'advice' from the Gov seemingly.

But may I remind people this is just not the case. There are many, many people who cannot have the vaccine for numerous reasons. They don't get to choose which of the two 'camps' they belong in.

I notice in the official rhetoric there is no mention of 'exemption passes' either.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Most opinions on here are dividing people into the "chose to get vaccinated" and the "choosing not to be vaccinated" groups. As indeed does the official 'advice' from the Gov seemingly.

But may I remind people this is just not the case. There are many, many people who cannot have the vaccine for numerous reasons. They don't get to choose which of the two 'camps' they belong in.

I notice in the official rhetoric there is no mention of 'exemption passes' either. "

The government are allowing exceptions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is only approved for emergency use! Still in trial until 2023 and not mandatory? Tell that to care home workers do some bloody research for the love of god

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"lol deaths in double jabbed currently outnumber un jabbed massively. Once again check the jab has no effect on mortality if you read the study that only lasted 5 weeks BTW. The only this that was looked at was reduction of mild symptoms. You can check for yourself again not words on every jab manufacturer study notes"

Yes but common sense states most of those double jabbed are in the older group of the population and probably have underlying health conditions because of their age whereas the majority of the unjabbed as you refer are of the younger age set and will be more healthy and fitter. Stands to reason. So tell the whole story and STOP Scaremongering ffs.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"That's the Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation.

Can you explain how you believe these address/protect in line with your claim?

E

Easy look into the clubs licenses

Where a license has to be agreed by the council

Theres clauses within the licenses issued which point to equality act and other things to do with discrimination.

Every club pub and any outlet has them and must adhere to them or lose there license to trade.

You haven't explained how an Act that covers age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage & civil partnership, pregnancy & maternity, race, religion or belief, sex & sexual orientation affects your assertion regarding vaccination.

Because being vaccinated has nothing to do with any of those individuals.

E

"

Their is an act to in -dangering life so clubs would be covered by not letting those not vaccinated in which is a duty for the safety or even come under a health and safety certificate.

Now whose not going think we need a fresh thread

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By *hropsGuy69Man
over a year ago

telford

Soooooooo are swinging clubs under the same banner as night clubs ?

Hence we’ll all have the same control from Sept ??

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By *jfrenchMan
over a year ago

Stockport


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences "

Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice.

I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"It is only approved for emergency use! Still in trial until 2023 and not mandatory? Tell that to care home workers do some bloody research for the love of god "

Approved means it's approved, right?

It's not a mandatory vaccination.

It does make me laugh when someone who's done literally no research and has zero understanding suggests doing some research.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference?

Or Papers to drive for example? "

you dont neeed papers to drive or better known as you dont have to carry them at all times

you also dont need them abroad either

I do believe that you can lock them in the hotels vault if you want to do.

but im not sure on the pasport one as I dont have a passport

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It is only approved for emergency use! Still in trial until 2023 and not mandatory? Tell that to care home workers do some bloody research for the love of god "

It's approved. There is in practice little difference between emergency use and full authorisation (in the US, which you're quoting with your 2023 date) other than long term efficacy. This is Paul Offit, a vaccinologist and on the FDA approval panel. He also notes that long term effects beyond eight weeks are unheard of in vaccines.

The "trials" you're referring to are post marketing (ie, have been released to the public) safety monitoring. How scary, nefarious, and experimental, keeping an eye on things

Please don't condescend me by assuming that I haven't looked into this in detail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not scare mongering stating facts that anyone can check out if they were not so lazy. The information is there for you to look at but unfortunately people are generally docile and don't look for themselves.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"You need papers to travel abroad…… so what is the difference?

Or Papers to drive for example?

you dont neeed papers to drive or better known as you dont have to carry them at all times

you also dont need them abroad either

I do believe that you can lock them in the hotels vault if you want to do.

but im not sure on the pasport one as I dont have a passport"

You've not driven in the States or many European country's I'm guessing?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences

Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice.

I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us. "

Then you'll likely be issued an official medical exemption.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

Well there was a illegal rave in the old police social club this weekend about a mile away from my flat and went on till bout 7 yesterday morning,if they make it hard for big numbers of people to have a night out i can see a return of big warehouse partys,personaly i stopped clubbing years ago so not really gona affext me,as it stands all i have is a little card saying im jabbed thats it

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I'm sorry but I think people should have the choice if they want the vaccine or not. No other vaccine has been forced on anyone before. For instance meningitis can be passed from person to person and can kill, but people get the choice to be vaccinated against it.

They do have a choice.. and with decisions come consequences

Wrong! Not everyone gets the choice.

I don't. I have been officially told not to have the vaccine as have my mother and my siblings. Our bodies have from birth made this choice already for us. "

There are exemptions.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection

Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious."

the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was

E

there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster

papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place

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By *awz of LustWoman
over a year ago

Brighton

Nonsense I've been going to restaurants bars in london all the time since April and not one have made me use a app i just said i don't have it.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Not scare mongering stating facts that anyone can check out if they were not so lazy. The information is there for you to look at but unfortunately people are generally docile and don't look for themselves. "

Not facts but keep believing that.

It doesn't matter what your opinion is, double vaccination will be mandatory for large crowds, if you don't like it, don't attend those events.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure you have! So why do Bupa state that adverse reactions to the jab are not covered because it is still it the experimental phase of the trials

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof?

You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps? "

You don't, you download the app and they are on it

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection

Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious.

the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was

E

there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster

papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place"

Yes, of course, that kind of expression has absolutely no connotations or history, and absolutely no one has ever used that history when discussing vaccines. Sure sure

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By *iking SoftiesCouple
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"Wait how do you get proof?? I've lost my little card already. Would have much preferred an app or even an email, I'm useless with little bits of paper! "

You can get the NHS app with you vaccine and test history on it as well as other medical history.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

An act you've obviously not read in full. Good luck with the court case......

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Soooooooo are swinging clubs under the same banner as night clubs ?

Hence we’ll all have the same control from Sept ??"

I would d think that is obviously going to happen .. And rightly so IMHO

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

Nope a bar has right to refuse admission specially if it feels a duty of care to its employees may be at risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Thanks for the help guys!! I've downloaded the app, I'm assuming if I've got access to the covid pass QR code that's the proof?

You probably need to download and print the documents and have them handy on your phone perhaps?

You don't, you download the app and they are on it "

It's annoying though as the app doesn't accept my GP's postcode due to my place of work, so as for now i can't access the app properly . Think i need to order paper copies!

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Same time last year 63 cases per day 0 people jabbed currently 23k per day. Once again check for yourself the info is there if you look. "

Yep and nothing was open last year compared to this

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By *arklong88Man
over a year ago

Brighton/north Wales

Reading this thread is actually scary.whether pro or against the vaccine people shouldn't get divided.

I guess it's a brutal dog eat dog world

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"“papers, please”

Are you hinting at some sort of Nazi/Jew analogy?

Because that's quite a stretch.

And also, bloody vile.

E

Actually thats spot on and not vile at all

Only vile to those that refuse to have the injection

Yes, safety checks during a pandemic is exactly like the industrialised torture and execution of an ethnic group. How obvious.

the only person that took it out of context and made it a vile comment was

E

there was no mention before of any term of nazi content by the original poster

papers please could have been for anything not vile related in the first place"

Absolute nonsense and the fact you're defending an obvious Nazi/Jew reference is pretty disgusting to be honest.

I've seen some vile comments on these forums.

That pretty much scrapes the bottom of the barrel.

E

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?"

Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways

We do and we are both double jabbed

People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OMG everything was open this time last year and there was NO mask mandate

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Reading this thread is actually scary.whether pro or against the vaccine people shouldn't get divided.

I guess it's a brutal dog eat dog world"
that ship sailed about a year ago mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i agree with the idea, but how do you prove youve had both jabs

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"OMG everything was open this time last year and there was NO mask mandate "

Nope bars were closed in July last year I know as I work the doors

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"i agree with the idea, but how do you prove youve had both jabs"

NHS app or paper copy of your record.

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"i agree with the idea, but how do you prove youve had both jabs"

Download ur NHS app it will show on there

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"OMG everything was open this time last year and there was NO mask mandate "

Next to nothing was open this time last year.

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By *hindyMan
over a year ago

Mayfair

Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels!

But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed.

So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in?

Hmmmmm...

How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again?

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"OMG everything was open this time last year and there was NO mask mandate "

Untrue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What they say now and what will actually happen are sometimes two different things with the government

If the data over the next couple of months of clubbers doesn’t see increases in cases and Ill omens then this could just get scrapped at the last minute anyway .

I wouldn’t trust a word out of BJ mouth as gospel on legal changes that won’t happen for a few months away as a lot can change in 10 weeks .

Better hope those clubs rack in the coin over next two months . Expect some crazy cheap drink offers and 7 days a week nights events to try cram in as many clients as possible .

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels!

But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed.

So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in?

Hmmmmm...

How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? "

Think this is coming into force in September as he's giving younger people a chance to get both

Maybe wrong though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?

Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways

We do and we are both double jabbed

People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated "

Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing ….

So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test.

In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ?

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Nonsense I've been going to restaurants bars in london all the time since April and not one have made me use a app i just said i don't have it."

Thats quite the issue.. If you are happy to provide your details thats okay..

Though moving forward it probably wont be

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By *eanoCoolMan
over a year ago

wisbech


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

Lmao, good luck with that one although I am sure you will find some greedy lawyers to relieve you of your cash

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Loud noises

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Keep it civil, don't attack posters when you post please

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By *ewcouplemidsCouple
over a year ago

walsall


"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?

Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways

We do and we are both double jabbed

People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated

Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing ….

So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test.

In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ?"

Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Loud noises "

Everyone is shouting at each other.

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels!

But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed.

So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in?

Hmmmmm...

How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again? "

This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything.

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By *hindyMan
over a year ago

Mayfair


"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels!

But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed.

So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in?

Hmmmmm...

How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again?

Think this is coming into force in September as he's giving younger people a chance to get both

Maybe wrong though "

Doesn't matter if its now or September or September next year. If a person is double vaccinated they can still be infectious. Although the evidence seems to point to the being less infectious. But infectious all the same.

If the rule introduced today (for Sep) said everyone has to test negative then I'd completely understand it. As it is worded in the speech just given it simply does not make sense. Other than encourage anyone not double vaccinated who wishes to frequent a nightclub to get jabbed. Unless that's the idea?

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Loud noises

Everyone is shouting at each other."

IM NOT SHOUTING!!!!!!!

e

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?

Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways

We do and we are both double jabbed

People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated

Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing ….

So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test.

In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ?

Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything "

I don’t know, it just feels like today’s announcement will place even less requirement on testing.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Loud noises

Everyone is shouting at each other.

IM NOT SHOUTING!!!!!!!

e"

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??"

Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I do think the removal of a negative test requirement is interesting.

Isn’t it better to know if you are potentially infected so you can make a conscious decision not to go to a large gathering venue?

A non vaccinated person with a negative test is more likely not to pass on the virus than someone who is vaccinated but doesn’t have a negative tests

Right?

Tests are free from pharmacy so why wouldn't people be testing regular anyways

We do and we are both double jabbed

People who aren't so vulnerable eg double jabbed should be allowed more freedom as they won't need caring for if infected as much as non vaccinated

Sure, but the vaccine passport removes the need for testing ….

So a vaccinated person without a negative test is no more safe than a non vaccinated person who holds a negative test.

In a crowded environment regardless of vaccinated or not it’s better to still have a requirement that restricts entry for those who are covid positive ?

Exactly so why aren't more people taking responsibility and checking them selves seems too many people don't wanna do anything

I don’t know, it just feels like today’s announcement will place even less requirement on testing.

"

If a very high majority of the adult population is vaccinated, the transmission will be so greatly reduced that testing might not be relevant by then anyway.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??"

Think you may be thinking about other dates? We had restrictions this time last year for sure.

Take a look here

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2021/01/04/a-timeline-of-uk-lockdown-measures-since-the-pandemic-began/

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I imagine that the hope is that we get Covid to a situation where we don't have to test. Most vaccines do not prevent infection and "only" reduce transmission, but we don't have LFTs for measles.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. "

I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??"

Because no one was social distancing or wearing masks doesn't mean there were no restrictions.

It could mean those people weren't following the restrictions.

Social distancing has only stopped being a requirement today I believe.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??

Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact"

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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago

Z'ha'dum


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

No whingining her just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

No whingining her just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns. "

Or giving businesses a chance to prepare

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Now I admit I've never been the sharpest tool in the box. But I did get some A-Levels!

But I'm reading a transcript of Boris's speech and he says a proof of negative isn't enough to get in a nightclub. Instead you have to be double jabbed.

So I'm correct in saying that means someone who isn't vaccinated yet is testing negative cannot go in the nightclub but a person who although double jabbed might still be infectious can go in?

Hmmmmm...

How much are we paying these 'experts' with more than my paltry 3 A-levels again?

This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything. "

Yeah beat them into submission I say!

Healthy fit smug gits that they are. Having the temerity to want to go dancing in clubs and hugging their friends and other sordid practices .. How jealous are we though really !

Bastards!

Lol

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything.

I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development."

As I've said before, free choice sometimes comes with a cost, this is it.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

No whingining her just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns.

Or giving businesses a chance to prepare"

Or both

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax.

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By *eanoCoolMan
over a year ago

wisbech


" This isn't about expertise. It's about coercing the majority of young people to get vaccinated. I'm double jabbed but I don't agree with anyone being coerced into anything.

I agree, and I think this is why I am feeling uncomfortable about this development.

As I've said before, free choice sometimes comes with a cost, this is it. "

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

Seems like a no brainer, and one that should have been announced much earlier ready for today.

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By *ig1gaz1Man
over a year ago

bradford

Just to make it clear the covid jab is not law to take it

Neither is no covid jab no entry

It is only advisory statement via emergency powers.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"Everything was open I was in Cornwall all of July and August no social distancing no masks and no restrictions. What are you talking about, is your memory that short??

Social distancing has only just stopped, today in fact"

Not in my world it ain't

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…"

I assume that swingers clubs will have the same rules.

Cal

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax."

I have 4 grandsons over 18, who are all keen to be jabbed, to protect their siblings, one of whom, has a heart condition..but this will certainly encourage them to get jabbed, also!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

"

Yeah, follow that up by telling them you’re a ‘Freeman of the land’

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Just to make it clear the covid jab is not law to take it

Neither is no covid jab no entry

It is only advisory statement via emergency powers."
just to make it clear.. You have no chance of getting away with that.. Once someone adds public safety into any policies it will change everything.. And none of those things you quoted will stand up in law

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax.

I have 4 grandsons over 18, who are all keen to be jabbed, to protect their siblings, one of whom, has a heart condition..but this will certainly encourage them to get jabbed, also!! "
you dont look old enough.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Oh good at least we can take them to court over no jab discrimination discrimination.

Discimination warning for pubs no jabs no entry

Goes for clubs as well as any event organised.

Comes under the equality act 2010

Yeah, follow that up by telling them you’re a ‘Freeman of the land’ "

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"no complaints from me a good incentive for the younger generation to get the vax.

I have 4 grandsons over 18, who are all keen to be jabbed, to protect their siblings, one of whom, has a heart condition..but this will certainly encourage them to get jabbed, also!! you dont look old enough."

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North


"Just to make it clear the covid jab is not law to take it

Neither is no covid jab no entry

It is only advisory statement via emergency powers."

Will be law in September

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By *eamteamCouple
over a year ago

Toen


"So what are the consequences of mandating a experimental jab on people?

That's right none! 1500 dead and over 1,000,000 adverse reactions, and it is estimated that only a maximum of 10% are reported (check the yellow card system on the government website) with no liability to big pharma or the Government. People are mental on here "

You’re not wrong mate. The majority of people believe the most frequently washed body part in 2021 was the Hands.

But in fact it was the Brain

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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago

Z'ha'dum


".. coming end of September

Proof of negative test will not be enough!!!

Watch the whinging start…

No whining here just confusion, by the end of September most people will have had 2 months worth of mass gathering opportunities. Seems like paying lip service to peoples concerns.

Or giving businesses a chance to prepare"

Yeah but the removal of restrictions was pushed back by a month if they let the business know back then I'm sure they could have been prepared by now. If this move is designed to stop the spread of the virous it seems a bit pointless in my mind, given that vaccinated and unvaccinated people will have 2 months to mass gather freely (I know they have been doing this already). I guess I must not be as cleaver as most.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"It's a load of nonsense and it is just creating another divide. The double jab doesn't stop you spreading or catching it same as no jab it so makes no difference. So the question is why would they make it so? And don't go on that it reduces symptoms so you will be asymptomatic so won't spread it! Have we have been told for the last 18 months asymptomatic spread is the biggest problem we face! "

Guess you're another one who has been bypassed by the scientific evidence.

Full vaccination allows most people to get infected less than unvaccinated people. If they are unfortunate enough to get infected, they get much milder illness levels and much less chance of death. They also are less infectious to others, thus fewer people get infected. It's a clear benefit for everyone and can mean that society reopens quicker and better than whatever the other lot might possibly want.

It's restrictions or vaccines to reduce the impact on society.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Vaccines and/or more restrictions or more deaths and bigger impacts to societies.

If you're willing to pay for the increased costs to the country, I notice that these people are not saying anything

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