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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" Boris will close entry to the uk, i about 6 months | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again! Boris will close entry to the uk, i about 6 months " That’s a bit optimistic ain’t it……I’d say a year. The woman was in her 90s and had other health conditions and not vaccinated. | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" Stop trying to scaremonger. Now is not the time nor the place etc.Lets wait for the facts and make our own conclusions. Your thread does nothing but install fear and division. Better to say nothing at all and enjoy the football. | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" It says she was infected with two known variants rather than a new one https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/11/woman-90-infected-with-alpha-and-beta-covid-variants-at-the-same-time | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" A '90 year old woman has died" | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people" She didn't have a vaccine either so maybe she thought bugger it, I am getting on, I want to enjoy my life and carried on going out or multiple people visited her | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people" Just maybe mate she didn't have as much time as you have and wanted to maybe see people before she rotted in a care home, not seeing her family ?? Maybe ? Maybe she thought , I'm 90 , I want to hold my family again ? So so selfish | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people Just maybe mate she didn't have as much time as you have and wanted to maybe see people before she rotted in a care home, not seeing her family ?? Maybe ? Maybe she thought , I'm 90 , I want to hold my family again ? So so selfish " Whoa hold ya horses fella i was just pointing out to the op that its not a new variant the begs the question bit was if she didnt wana die of it why mix with people,myself im of the opinion its time we take responsibility for our own health so as soon as restrictions aint law anymore i will be doing what i thinks right for me | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people Just maybe mate she didn't have as much time as you have and wanted to maybe see people before she rotted in a care home, not seeing her family ?? Maybe ? Maybe she thought , I'm 90 , I want to hold my family again ? So so selfish Whoa hold ya horses fella i was just pointing out to the op that its not a new variant the begs the question bit was if she didnt wana die of it why mix with people,myself im of the opinion its time we take responsibility for our own health so as soon as restrictions aint law anymore i will be doing what i thinks right for me" It is worrying as a women in her 90's should be shielding to a point but its not only catching covid once at her age but twice at around the same time off 2 different people. So makes you think how was it possible for someone who be shielding to come into contact with the number of people infected with it for 2 people to be able to pass it to her. | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people Just maybe mate she didn't have as much time as you have and wanted to maybe see people before she rotted in a care home, not seeing her family ?? Maybe ? Maybe she thought , I'm 90 , I want to hold my family again ? So so selfish " Well that worked out well for her  | |||
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"but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people" Some people (my mum included) get to an age when they know they will die soon and want to spend what remaining time they have left with loved ones, not spend a year or more in isolation. | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again! Stop trying to scaremonger. Now is not the time nor the place etc.Lets wait for the facts and make our own conclusions. Your thread does nothing but install fear and division. Better to say nothing at all and enjoy the football. " I actually agree with you here. Let's live a bit, eh? | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" Fancy that, a virus that keeps mutating! How surprising! What is really amazing, is how the bullshit keeps mutating in mysterious ways - remember the first version? No? Just to refresh your memory: "3 weeks to flatten the curve". | |||
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"As it's been well established now that the information in the thread is untrue, would it best to remove it, rather have the bad smell linger and pollute others thought process? E" You have a privileged access to the Index Librorum Prohibitorum edition 2021 so you know which one is the true truth and which one is the untrue truth? | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again! Boris will close entry to the uk, i about 6 months " Are you suggesting on such new a Starmer labour government would cease all international travel immediately and indefinitely? Covid isn’t going away, new variants will appear frequently for years. We have to learn to live with it eventually. | |||
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"She wasnt infected by a new variant she was infected with two different strains from two seperate people.but does beg the question wat was a woman in her 90s with health conditions doing mixing with people" Wtf...she was maybe lonely as hell | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…." True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... | |||
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"As it's been well established now that the information in the thread is untrue, would it best to remove it, rather have the bad smell linger and pollute others thought process? E" These forums would be rather bare if they removed all the untrue posts  | |||
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"As it's been well established now that the information in the thread is untrue, would it best to remove it, rather have the bad smell linger and pollute others thought process? E These forums would be rather bare if they removed all the untrue posts "Is that true?
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended....." No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... I received an abusive message this morning from one person who was very argumentative with anyone who who supported the idea of lifting restrictions even though I hadn’t engaged with them in the forums. When I tried to reply his original message and my reply disappeared. He now seems to have also disappeared so not sure if he’s gone too far and been escorted to the out door." Yeh we all get that there are a number of users who send us messages about how we are spreading world government narratives. Block is your friend. | |||
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"maybe but regardless of that..the worrying this is..it was a new unknown variant." It'll just join the long list of variants Alpha B.1.1.7 VOC-20DEC-01 VOC Beta B.1.351 VOC-20DEC-02 VOC Gamma P.1 VOC-21JAN-02 VOC Delta B.1.617.2, AY.1 and AY.2 VOC-21APR-02 VOC Zeta P.2 VUI-21JAN-01 VUI Eta B.1.525 VUI-21FEB-03 VUI B.1.1.318 VUI-21FEB-04 VUI Theta P.3 VUI-21MAR-02 VUI Kappa B.1.617.1 VUI-21APR-01 VUI Lambda C.37 VUI-21JUN-01 VUI B.1.1.7 with E484K VOC-21FEB-02 *Monitoring Epsilon B.1.427/B.1.429 Monitoring Have to shift to another annotation table soon. Virus mutates. There are several hundred other variants that are of no concern at all. It's what virus does. | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. " Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at! | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at!" The poor little 6 year old on the TV the other night had some serious issues with long covid and that was affecting her life. The same with the rest of the million long covid sufferers and the acute covid suffers. It’s not always getting the virus that’s the problem, it can simply be the aftermath. A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. | |||
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" A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. " Absolutely - interestingly (and I am the first who wants to get back to normal and allow people freedom of choice) in other densely populated European countries like Germany and France masks will not disappear for some time to come. Does that not make people wonder a bit? A little protection reduces the risk - full stop. | |||
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" A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. Absolutely - interestingly (and I am the first who wants to get back to normal and allow people freedom of choice) in other densely populated European countries like Germany and France masks will not disappear for some time to come. Does that not make people wonder a bit? A little protection reduces the risk - full stop." People go on about having freedom as if a mask will stop that. You can open up totally and still be mindful of others. | |||
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" A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. Absolutely - interestingly (and I am the first who wants to get back to normal and allow people freedom of choice) in other densely populated European countries like Germany and France masks will not disappear for some time to come. Does that not make people wonder a bit? A little protection reduces the risk - full stop. People go on about having freedom as if a mask will stop that. You can open up totally and still be mindful of others. " Could not have put it better myself. I do not feel it affects my freedom.  | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again! Boris will close entry to the uk, i about 6 months " Hahahahahaha | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at! The poor little 6 year old on the TV the other night had some serious issues with long covid and that was affecting her life. The same with the rest of the million long covid sufferers and the acute covid suffers. It’s not always getting the virus that’s the problem, it can simply be the aftermath. A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. " A visual symbol of doing something that has no benefit in the real world, the actual opposite. Peru had one of the most severe mask mandates in the world, they didn't fair so well. The poor 6year old would of been saved obviously by a mask. The aftermath your right is not just getting the virus,more deaths due to cancer, poverty, suicide. Anyway I respect your right if you would like to wear a mask, but in a civil world, I would like the same right of choice aswell. | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at! The poor little 6 year old on the TV the other night had some serious issues with long covid and that was affecting her life. The same with the rest of the million long covid sufferers and the acute covid suffers. It’s not always getting the virus that’s the problem, it can simply be the aftermath. A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. A visual symbol of doing something that has no benefit in the real world, the actual opposite. Peru had one of the most severe mask mandates in the world, they didn't fair so well. The poor 6year old would of been saved obviously by a mask. The aftermath your right is not just getting the virus,more deaths due to cancer, poverty, suicide. Anyway I respect your right if you would like to wear a mask, but in a civil world, I would like the same right of choice aswell." Playing devil's advocate can i also drive 50 in a 20 zone. My choice and I feel safe. Extreme I know but social rules are not always for the individual benefit | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at! The poor little 6 year old on the TV the other night had some serious issues with long covid and that was affecting her life. The same with the rest of the million long covid sufferers and the acute covid suffers. It’s not always getting the virus that’s the problem, it can simply be the aftermath. A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. A visual symbol of doing something that has no benefit in the real world, the actual opposite. Peru had one of the most severe mask mandates in the world, they didn't fair so well. The poor 6year old would of been saved obviously by a mask. The aftermath your right is not just getting the virus,more deaths due to cancer, poverty, suicide. Anyway I respect your right if you would like to wear a mask, but in a civil world, I would like the same right of choice aswell. Playing devil's advocate can i also drive 50 in a 20 zone. My choice and I feel safe. Extreme I know but social rules are not always for the individual benefit " Very true, although you have not been asked to put anything on your car when you do so, the same as I wouldn't sneeze or cough in your face , but you ask that I wear a mask without any evidence that would counter the 40years plus evidence. The mask is feelings not facts, your happy wearing one, I'm not, both of us should be happy with that. Like someone else said, upgrade your mask to compensate if you feel at risk, self responsibility, don't ask everyone to be equally repressed. | |||
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"Timbuktu and Mars variants coming soon to keep your fear levels up folks…. True, keep your mask on and your safe as houses. I see there's less of the expert Fab virologists posting, has furlough ended..... No but there comes a point where you realise that some people are always going to doubt regardless of the overwhelming evidence. The fact we can travel around the world does not prevent some people from believing the world is flat. Therefore, the fact that the figures show the overwhelming positive aspects of the vacinne will not convince those who feel the need to believe some conspiracy narrative. You can't reason with some people and after 18 months it's unsurprising that most realise this and make one comment and then leave it. Thanks for answering the furlough, it was sarcasm. Where's the conspiracy narrative? If we're talking masks, the government and other goverments have changed the narrative, most of the goverment scientists that said they were useless before now say they are effective. Maybe what gets the Fab virologists so worked up is when people disagree with them. In terms of evidence with the marks, well there's very little credible studies supporting them, alot against. The vaccine is great for some, take it if you feel at risk, leave others alone and leave the kids out of it. However if you want to give a new vaccine to a 4 year old to "protect" a 80 year old I would question where the words selfish and not caring are aimed at! The poor little 6 year old on the TV the other night had some serious issues with long covid and that was affecting her life. The same with the rest of the million long covid sufferers and the acute covid suffers. It’s not always getting the virus that’s the problem, it can simply be the aftermath. A mask reduces the risk from droplets. Something is better than nothing in my view. A visual symbol of doing something that has no benefit in the real world, the actual opposite. Peru had one of the most severe mask mandates in the world, they didn't fair so well. The poor 6year old would of been saved obviously by a mask. The aftermath your right is not just getting the virus,more deaths due to cancer, poverty, suicide. Anyway I respect your right if you would like to wear a mask, but in a civil world, I would like the same right of choice aswell. Playing devil's advocate can i also drive 50 in a 20 zone. My choice and I feel safe. Extreme I know but social rules are not always for the individual benefit " I quite agree - it is about community spirit and tbh I feel a bit for the shopkeepers of smaller, more enclosed premises. They have no choice from Monday but to accept every Tom, Dick and Harry into their shops. Out of respect for them, they sense of protection I think it is a good thing to do. | |||
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"... Playing devil's advocate can i also drive 50 in a 20 zone. My choice and I feel safe. Extreme I know but social rules are not always for the individual benefit Very true, although you have not been asked to put anything on your car when you do so, the same as I wouldn't sneeze or cough in your face , but you ask that I wear a mask without any evidence that would counter the 40years plus evidence. The mask is feelings not facts, your happy wearing one, I'm not, both of us should be happy with that. Like someone else said, upgrade your mask to compensate if you feel at risk, self responsibility, don't ask everyone to be equally repressed." So I can remove the seatbelts, bumpers and other safety features? You have also assumed I want to wear a mask to feel safe, this is not true. Just because I can see the counter point of view does not mean that I agree with it. My point was simply that this "freedom" side show is exactly thst. Freedoms are not a birthright and they are not fixed. Even in America you can't own a nuke dispite the right to bear arms having no such limitations when it was drafted. | |||
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"... Playing devil's advocate can i also drive 50 in a 20 zone. My choice and I feel safe. Extreme I know but social rules are not always for the individual benefit Very true, although you have not been asked to put anything on your car when you do so, the same as I wouldn't sneeze or cough in your face , but you ask that I wear a mask without any evidence that would counter the 40years plus evidence. The mask is feelings not facts, your happy wearing one, I'm not, both of us should be happy with that. Like someone else said, upgrade your mask to compensate if you feel at risk, self responsibility, don't ask everyone to be equally repressed. So I can remove the seatbelts, bumpers and other safety features? You have also assumed I want to wear a mask to feel safe, this is not true. Just because I can see the counter point of view does not mean that I agree with it. My point was simply that this "freedom" side show is exactly thst. Freedoms are not a birthright and they are not fixed. Even in America you can't own a nuke dispite the right to bear arms having no such limitations when it was drafted. " Having a car you accept you have the proven safety measures that it you drive or use a car you accept. Masks are not a proven safety feature in a shop! I can see the counter point as well, I could make an argument for arguments sake for wearing one. Agreed freedom's are not a birthright, freedom's throughout history have been fought for and fought to be maintained. I do agreed it's a sideshow, like the people who complain about personal data being used in a vaccine passport, but have every social media account going telling the world what they had for lunch and time they went to loo! There are limitations in a society in all aspects, but being told to do something that goes against what has be long proved, especially by people who 12 months ago had the complete opposite view , I would say starts in a small way to the erosion of society. | |||
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"Heard on the BBC news this morning..An old lady of 90 has died in Belgium ..she was positive with Covid..but the worrying things is she had a completely new variant we have never heard or known of....here we go again!" Think of it as each country has a different strain to ours, most we haven't come into contact with. So expect a few different variants to pop in. | |||
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