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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/dance-clubs-reopen-no-covid-tests-lockdown-vaccine-passports-b943401.html

This seems to indicate so

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool


"Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though. "
they also said there's no going back after July 19th,all done then

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?"

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home."

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

"

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things."

Yes, I think that's true

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

"

To be accurate, swinging clubs and adult venues were not named separately in any of the guidelines. They are following the guidance for "private members clubs" which is the same as nightclubs.

Cal

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

He said there will be no exceptions, anywhere,to the restrictions being lifted. To me that means everywhere open, night clubs, swinging clubs etc

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By *veragecouple321Couple
over a year ago

Leamington Spa

PM says extra precautions may remain after July 19 lockdown lifting

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/RWa3PB

Sent via @updayUK

So not ending all restrictions on July 19th, no word on what these extra precautions are though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things."

Thats my understanding.

I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"PM says extra precautions may remain after July 19 lockdown lifting

https://f7td5.app.goo.gl/RWa3PB

Sent via @updayUK

So not ending all restrictions on July 19th, no word on what these extra precautions are though?"

I strongly suspect that it will evolve face coverings on public transport and foreign travel rather than number restrictions but I guess we will see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here."

Because it's a relatively low risk to a tiny proportion of people.

The majority have been locked up for far too long already.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

Because it's a relatively low risk to a tiny proportion of people.

The majority have been locked up for far too long already. "

Different set of priorities.

And definition of "locked up".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good. It can’t come quick enough july 19th

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good. It can’t come quick enough july 19th "

I agree but I have a horrible feeling that while the government might say we can no longer have restrictions, I had an email from my doctors surgery about 2 hours ago saying that face coverings for face-to-face appointments will be required in the surgery for the foreseeable and only having telephone appointments unless absolutely necessary that you are seen face-to-face will continue until further notice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With cases rising again (magically) I’ll bet they will find an excuse to find ways to avoid opening them, or opening them with conditions….

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By *esmond and Molly JonesCouple
over a year ago

Watford


"Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though. "

Boris said that he could see no reason that the 21st couldn't go ahead. Look how that turned out!

They are using ambiguous language to get away with whatever they want.

This is a sham.

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden

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By *ANDA2Couple
over a year ago

Henley Arden


"Boris says "it is likely" Javed says "I see no reason why not". Neither of those statements are 100% yes though. "

Why would anyone believe what Johnson, javed or any of this government say ?

If his lips are moving, Bojos lying

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.

Thats my understanding.

I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue."

Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc?

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here."

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19 "

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated."

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks "

Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.

I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks

Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.

I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do "

The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good. It can’t come quick enough july 19th "

Definitely this

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By *litterbabe OP   Woman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.

Thats my understanding.

I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue.

Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc? "

I think so

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I understand it, we are told that nightclub opening restrictions will end on the 19th of July regardless of the science. I can't seem to find any information saying this isn't so. Is it correct then, as I understand it, regardless of numbers, science, data, anything at all, the clubs will definitely be able to reopen after the 19th of July?

I think this is surely going to refer to nightclubs ( the dancing kind) not adult clubs ( the dancing and other bonking kind)?

Or is it?

I don't think they have been put in a separate class to each other, I think whether a traditional nightclub or a more intimate nightclub they are all considered clubs in in the current scheme of things.

Thats my understanding.

I think swinging clubs come under private members clubs for licensing but as far a covid restrictions are concerned come under the same rules as any late night venue.

Are they also governed by local council/authority regulations etc?

I think so"

Yes but as for covid rules that is central government but guess local councils could put local restrictions in place but highly unlikely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks

Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.

I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do

The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x "

Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

I`m not listening to the government.

I`m still not going out/meeting until next year at the earliest.

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By *entlemanrogueMan
over a year ago

Motherwell

So now, the Tories are saying fuck science?

After locking us in for over a year, die to science?

makes as much sense as the rest of their stupod ideas/policies on this matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It'll get postponed, again, and again...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks

Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.

I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do

The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x

Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998"

Ermm when you consider the time span actually it’s not tiny, 8% also has no bearing on here and now. Since Delta has arrived it’s well in excess of that and at a time when the lions share of people are vaccinated. I am staunchly pro vaccination btw, it’s definitely doing a huge amount of good but there’s still some areas for concern.

X

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy


"It'll get postponed, again, and again... "

It only ends when the masses say enough is enough.

If you keep putting up with this nonsense it’ll just continue.

You enable their behaviour.

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By *eaky00Man
over a year ago

Swaffham

It’s over!!!!!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"It’s over!!!!!"

What is ?

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By *eaky00Man
over a year ago

Swaffham

Mandatory restrictions. Come 19th

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Mandatory restrictions. Come 19th "

So we will have freedom to travel the world ?

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By *eaky00Man
over a year ago

Swaffham

You have that freedom now . Although of course many countries won’t let us Brits in .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Keep an eye on hospitalisation cases. They may be on the increase but nowhere near what they were or are they rising at rates previous.

If the NHS is able to cope then there is no need for restrictions. People will get ill but they should be able to self isolate and recover at home.

The risk of medium to long term disability seems to be lost here.

And long covid complications, this is the main reason I don't want covid-19

Yes. I'm fortunate that I'm fully vaccinated.

So am I and have double vaxxed friends who have caught it again so no thanks

Yeah. I think the risks are tiny once you're double vaxxed, though.

I sort of see it as, now that's all we can do

The numbers for double vaccinated infections are pretty big in fairness, to date the severity has proved to be minimal but as the lady previously said, Long Covid is definitely a concern.. x

Only 8% of cases since February have been fully vaccinated. That's a tiny proportion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57610998

Ermm when you consider the time span actually it’s not tiny, 8% also has no bearing on here and now. Since Delta has arrived it’s well in excess of that and at a time when the lions share of people are vaccinated. I am staunchly pro vaccination btw, it’s definitely doing a huge amount of good but there’s still some areas for concern.

X

"

No, that 8% is specifically delta, if you read the article.

And the 'lions share' are still not vaccinated. Maybe just over 50% of adults are at least two weeks post their second jabs.

8% really is very small and shows the vaccinations are working well. There is no cause for concern in any of these figures currently.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

I like 99% of others on here know very little except what we are fed by the media and government, however, I do understand that we have a vaccine and that it does offer some protection.

I look at it from the stand point of once we have given everybody who wants to be jabbed the vaccine, then what?

Are people on here honestly telling us that the restrictions the like of which we have had for the last 18 months must remain.

It was listening to one of the medical professionals who pop up on the BBC regular saying that now the worst of covid is over it is clear that further lockdowns and restrictions will do more harm to people's mental health than anything else. They were saying that we are going to suffer things like flu and cold pandemics in the next 2 years because we have kept people isolated from one another. Thrse are going to place yet more stress on the NHS which is now trying to catch up on all the elective surgery and other treatments that have been on hold whilst Covid was tackled.

I feel it is time for restrictions to be lifted and for individuals to take responsibility for there own health and do only those things that they feel safe with.

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By *tarshipMan
over a year ago

Bristol

As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed. "

This is what I'm sure is going to happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed.

This is what I'm sure is going to happen.

"

Me too.

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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago

portchester


"As someone else has alluded to, the fly in the ointment might be local authorities. I believe that they issue licenses for adult venues which swingers clubs are classed as. Previously when national restrictions on visiting relatives in care homes were lifted by the Government it was subject to approval at local authority level and the one when my mum lived at the time didn’t authorise the easing. Likewise, I know several people who are travelling showmen and although in theory they could reopen, local authorities weren’t letting sites or allowing events to go ahead. So in both circumstances the de-facto position was nothing had actually changed.

This is what I'm sure is going to happen.

Me too."

I don’t

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