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"Make it so complicated to get a jab...pull up a chair, apologies for the length.. So without giving away too much personal info on a public forum... I have 2 kids... My 18 year old has got an appt to have their jab in a months time. That's great. And they are keen to have it. Which is great. My 20 year old who is away at uni and who had covid last May and now says covid is doing the rounds again at their uni (including with students who already had it last May) has not been offered a jab yet. So today we had a conversation about how to get the jab. The 20 year old tried to book it online but couldn't because they are 20 not 21. Their gp has not offered it to them. OK. Now.. Apparently there are walk in centres where anyone can just drop in and get it. But get this... There was one in my town today... From 230 till 430 you could drop and get a jab. And that's great if you knew about it in advance and were in the area.. In Slough yesterday apparently there was a similar drop in centre for a similar 2 hour slot. And that's great if you knew about it.. And were in the area... BUT they don't seem to publicise it... Why don't they say... where is the drop in centre going to be tomorrow? Nobody knows..what time is it going to be..? Nobody knows... Its just bizarre. " NHS on social media tends to be very good at letting people know about invites for vaccines etc round our way .However, you need to be on social media to see the posts obviously  | |||
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"Make it so complicated to get a jab...pull up a chair, apologies for the length.. So without giving away too much personal info on a public forum... I have 2 kids... My 18 year old has got an appt to have their jab in a months time. That's great. And they are keen to have it. Which is great. My 20 year old who is away at uni and who had covid last May and now says covid is doing the rounds again at their uni (including with students who already had it last May) has not been offered a jab yet. So today we had a conversation about how to get the jab. The 20 year old tried to book it online but couldn't because they are 20 not 21. Their gp has not offered it to them. OK. Now.. Apparently there are walk in centres where anyone can just drop in and get it. But get this... There was one in my town today... From 230 till 430 you could drop and get a jab. And that's great if you knew about it in advance and were in the area.. In Slough yesterday apparently there was a similar drop in centre for a similar 2 hour slot. And that's great if you knew about it.. And were in the area... BUT they don't seem to publicise it... Why don't they say... where is the drop in centre going to be tomorrow? Nobody knows..what time is it going to be..? Nobody knows... Its just bizarre. NHS on social media tends to be very good at letting people know about invites for vaccines etc round our way .However, you need to be on social media to see the posts obviously "I don't understand why they don't announce drop in centres for 2 hours a day at your local vaccination hub? I don't get why it's a few hours here... A few hours there... But hey people keep up coz it all changes again tomorrow. It's also clear that for the 20 year olds cohort, the fact they had it a year ago... Does not offer protection now. | |||
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"My daughter went to a drop in centre in Manchester. She queued nearly four hours. " Interesting... And is that centre offering "drop in" all day or just 2 hours worth? And is it offered every day or just on a particular single day? | |||
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"My daughter went to a drop in centre in Manchester. She queued nearly four hours. Interesting... And is that centre offering "drop in" all day or just 2 hours worth? And is it offered every day or just on a particular single day? " And how did she find out about it? | |||
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"Make it so complicated to get a jab...pull up a chair, apologies for the length.. So without giving away too much personal info on a public forum... I have 2 kids... My 18 year old has got an appt to have their jab in a months time. That's great. And they are keen to have it. Which is great. My 20 year old who is away at uni and who had covid last May and now says covid is doing the rounds again at their uni (including with students who already had it last May) has not been offered a jab yet. So today we had a conversation about how to get the jab. The 20 year old tried to book it online but couldn't because they are 20 not 21. Their gp has not offered it to them. OK. Now.. Apparently there are walk in centres where anyone can just drop in and get it. But get this... There was one in my town today... From 230 till 430 you could drop and get a jab. And that's great if you knew about it in advance and were in the area.. In Slough yesterday apparently there was a similar drop in centre for a similar 2 hour slot. And that's great if you knew about it.. And were in the area... BUT they don't seem to publicise it... Why don't they say... where is the drop in centre going to be tomorrow? Nobody knows..what time is it going to be..? Nobody knows... Its just bizarre. NHS on social media tends to be very good at letting people know about invites for vaccines etc round our way .However, you need to be on social media to see the posts obviously
I don't understand why they don't announce drop in centres for 2 hours a day at your local vaccination hub? I don't get why it's a few hours here... A few hours there... But hey people keep up coz it all changes again tomorrow.
It's also clear that for the 20 year olds cohort, the fact they had it a year ago... Does not offer protection now. "The centres are pre-booked weeks before, yes we do have spare capacity sometimes but the booking staff are on that in contacting people to get in early if there is surplus for the shift.. | |||
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"My daughter went to a drop in centre in Manchester. She queued nearly four hours. Interesting... And is that centre offering "drop in" all day or just 2 hours worth? And is it offered every day or just on a particular single day? " It was advertised on a local residents Facebook group. It was all day on a Saturday and Sunday because her postcode had a high number of positive cases. | |||
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"Also the fact we're complaining about our young 20s waiting a little while longer, while many very much more vulnerable people worldwide can't get a vaccine for love nor money, is worth remembering. My son is 18 by the way, but he knows he needs to be patient and wait his turn. Vaccine centres are working flat out with the supply they have, we cannot do any more." You seem to have misunderstood me.. Or I've not written precisely enough. We are told youngsters need to get jabbed. We at told all adults will be jabbed by July 18th...they need to start NOW. Youngsters try to get jabbed. And it's a bit of a lottery depending on where you live, what day of the week it is, what hour of the day it is... If you're on Facebook or if you happen to look at a local NHS Web site at a specific time. I'm not suggesting others are not more vulnerable... Now am I suggesting people aren't working very hard to deliver within whatever constraints exist. I'm saying why can't we make it easy by saying publicly in main media and all NHS websites that there will be drop in centres and check with the website on a daily basis to find out when and where they are. I'm saying that with a bit better communication.... The people the govt tell us are catching and spreading it and who the govt tell us will be jabbed by july 18th, might stand a chance of appearing at their jab centre to get the jab. | |||
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"We get regular texts from the NHS about pop in centres locally, assuming it's because we use texts via our local surgery.. Is the eldest registered at the GP local to his Uni?" Yep so they are registered at the gp up North and not had anything from her gp there. So can't get it there. The youngest is at the gp down south and had a text with his appt. The eldest is home for the weekend and hence the conversation about local drop in centres to avail of. But finding them is dependent on which Facebook or insta or snap group you're on and not whether there is a crystal clear communication from the NHS. | |||
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"We get regular texts from the NHS about pop in centres locally, assuming it's because we use texts via our local surgery.. Is the eldest registered at the GP local to his Uni? Yep so they are registered at the gp up North and not had anything from her gp there. So can't get it there. The youngest is at the gp down south and had a text with his appt. The eldest is home for the weekend and hence the conversation about local drop in centres to avail of. But finding them is dependent on which Facebook or insta or snap group you're on and not whether there is a crystal clear communication from the NHS. " The national NHS site or 119 I think it is would be my advice for first contact.. We were jabbing people last Thursday who had booked on Tuesday in the 25-29 age group.. | |||
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"Also the fact we're complaining about our young 20s waiting a little while longer, while many very much more vulnerable people worldwide can't get a vaccine for love nor money, is worth remembering. My son is 18 by the way, but he knows he needs to be patient and wait his turn. Vaccine centres are working flat out with the supply they have, we cannot do any more. You seem to have misunderstood me.. Or I've not written precisely enough. We are told youngsters need to get jabbed. We at told all adults will be jabbed by July 18th...they need to start NOW. Youngsters try to get jabbed. And it's a bit of a lottery depending on where you live, what day of the week it is, what hour of the day it is... If you're on Facebook or if you happen to look at a local NHS Web site at a specific time. I'm not suggesting others are not more vulnerable... Now am I suggesting people aren't working very hard to deliver within whatever constraints exist. I'm saying why can't we make it easy by saying publicly in main media and all NHS websites that there will be drop in centres and check with the website on a daily basis to find out when and where they are. I'm saying that with a bit better communication.... The people the govt tell us are catching and spreading it and who the govt tell us will be jabbed by july 18th, might stand a chance of appearing at their jab centre to get the jab. " We are starting NOW. More precisely, we started months ago. My shift booking app is pinging at me multiple times a day, asking me, a volunteer, to come and volunteer to administer vaccines today, this afternoon, this minute. If insufficient volunteers can drop everything on the spot and travel to these mobile sites, then either the site can't go ahead or it can't stay open long. The sites are often short notice due to the supply (procured by central Govt) being short notice. I cannot believe there are people under 30 in the UK who don't use some kind of social media. Local CCGs and NHS organisations are spreading the word on Twitter, Facebook and other local news sources. Very soon (by Friday, according to the Govt), anyone over 18 will be able to book online via the NHS site. Your child has a mere few days more to be patient. This was announced by Govt yesterday and is in all the regular news sources. What happens is people's expectations are they can get a vaccine today, right now. And when they can't (for whatever reason) and, heaven forbid, they have to wait three or four days or even a week, they come into the vaccine centre and they take it out on volunteers like me. "How are you today, Sir?" "Would be better if I'd not had to wait so bloody long!" "Oh. Is there a queue?" "No, I walked right in just now but I had to wait a bloody week for this appointment. A WEEK! I've even had to travel 15 mins AND pay to park. What a fucking joke!" "Here, Sir. Have this free vaccine that millions of people worldwide would PAY for, would walk miles to get. And here's a thorough information leaflet about it. Please bring the blue card to your second appointment" Is actually a synopsis of a few exchanges with people in clinics. | |||
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"Boris announced on 14 June that from the next day 23 and 24 year olds could book their jabs. My son booked his, got a next day appointment and had it today at Elland Road. I think that is brilliantly efficient. " Yep sounds amazing.... Where you are. | |||
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"Also my son has his second vaccination in 8 weeks. I had to wait 12." Anyone who hasn't had a second can now rebook for an 8wk interval or a walk in clinic will give a second dose if a minimum of 4wks after the first dose. | |||
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" Anyone who hasn't had a second can now rebook for an 8wk interval or a walk in clinic will give a second dose if a minimum of 4wks after the first dose." Thanks. I have just let my daughter know. | |||
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"Also the fact we're complaining about our young 20s waiting a little while longer, while many very much more vulnerable people worldwide can't get a vaccine for love nor money, is worth remembering. My son is 18 by the way, but he knows he needs to be patient and wait his turn. Vaccine centres are working flat out with the supply they have, we cannot do any more. You seem to have misunderstood me.. Or I've not written precisely enough. We are told youngsters need to get jabbed. We at told all adults will be jabbed by July 18th...they need to start NOW. Youngsters try to get jabbed. And it's a bit of a lottery depending on where you live, what day of the week it is, what hour of the day it is... If you're on Facebook or if you happen to look at a local NHS Web site at a specific time. I'm not suggesting others are not more vulnerable... Now am I suggesting people aren't working very hard to deliver within whatever constraints exist. I'm saying why can't we make it easy by saying publicly in main media and all NHS websites that there will be drop in centres and check with the website on a daily basis to find out when and where they are. I'm saying that with a bit better communication.... The people the govt tell us are catching and spreading it and who the govt tell us will be jabbed by july 18th, might stand a chance of appearing at their jab centre to get the jab. We are starting NOW. More precisely, we started months ago. My shift booking app is pinging at me multiple times a day, asking me, a volunteer, to come and volunteer to administer vaccines today, this afternoon, this minute. If insufficient volunteers can drop everything on the spot and travel to these mobile sites, then either the site can't go ahead or it can't stay open long. The sites are often short notice due to the supply (procured by central Govt) being short notice. I cannot believe there are people under 30 in the UK who don't use some kind of social media. Local CCGs and NHS organisations are spreading the word on Twitter, Facebook and other local news sources. Very soon (by Friday, according to the Govt), anyone over 18 will be able to book online via the NHS site. Your child has a mere few days more to be patient. This was announced by Govt yesterday and is in all the regular news sources. What happens is people's expectations are they can get a vaccine today, right now. And when they can't (for whatever reason) and, heaven forbid, they have to wait three or four days or even a week, they come into the vaccine centre and they take it out on volunteers like me. "How are you today, Sir?" "Would be better if I'd not had to wait so bloody long!" "Oh. Is there a queue?" "No, I walked right in just now but I had to wait a bloody week for this appointment. A WEEK! I've even had to travel 15 mins AND pay to park. What a fucking joke!" "Here, Sir. Have this free vaccine that millions of people worldwide would PAY for, would walk miles to get. And here's a thorough information leaflet about it. Please bring the blue card to your second appointment" Is actually a synopsis of a few exchanges with people in clinics." Thanks for all your hard work.  | |||
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"We get regular texts from the NHS about pop in centres locally, assuming it's because we use texts via our local surgery.. Is the eldest registered at the GP local to his Uni? We use via our local surgery too, not had one text regarding NHS pop in centres though... "Think it's very different in certain areas how they use such things, still getting information about pop in centres even after being second jabbed for weeks but that's better than no info I think.. | |||
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"It is excellent news that all over 18s should be able to book by the end of the week. "
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over." It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy." not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. " The FDA regulates the United States. I am in the United Kingdom, where the regulator is the MHRA. Perhaps check the MHRA? | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. The FDA regulates the United States. I am in the United Kingdom, where the regulator is the MHRA. Perhaps check the MHRA?" https://products.mhra.gov.uk/search/?search=Pfiz&page=1 So it says products in the UK that's authorised for marketing requires a license and the product code starts with letter PL... Before a medicine can be sold in the UK, a number of licences are essential. Products with a UK marketing authorisation have a licence number in the format ‘PL 12345/0001’, ‘PLGB 12345/0002’ or ‘PLNI 12345/0003’. The licence number can be found on the packaging of the product and the first 2 characters are always contain the letters ‘PL’. I hope this helps when someone takes the jab and wants to see on the packaging if it's actually licensed. | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. The FDA regulates the United States. I am in the United Kingdom, where the regulator is the MHRA. Perhaps check the MHRA? https://products.mhra.gov.uk/search/?search=Pfiz&page=1 So it says products in the UK that's authorised for marketing requires a license and the product code starts with letter PL... Before a medicine can be sold in the UK, a number of licences are essential. Products with a UK marketing authorisation have a licence number in the format ‘PL 12345/0001’, ‘PLGB 12345/0002’ or ‘PLNI 12345/0003’. The licence number can be found on the packaging of the product and the first 2 characters are always contain the letters ‘PL’. I hope this helps when someone takes the jab and wants to see on the packaging if it's actually licensed." I draw up the vaccine at the clinics and vials are available for citizens to see. They have "PL" written on them | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. " Is not the issue with the semantics of certain words that are used and then that people with vested interests manipulate those words and people ignorance of what happens with all drugs to bring them to market, to the n create their own narrative? A drug can be in a trial but still be tested and approved? All drugs are tested and trialled and approved. As much as we want to compress 10 years of active life of a drug into 1 year.. . We can't. | |||
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"If you read the patient information leaflet these vaccines are only authorised for emergency use, hence the lockdown. Without a lockdown they cant administer these. Secondly since it's not been licensed, they are not allowed to advertise nor market the jabs. Hence why we see coercion of sorts. Phrases like " join the millions whose had it" The following is taken directly from the pfizer patient information leaflet ( a legal requirement that everyone getting a vaccination should receive) This medicinal product has been given authorisation for temporary supply by the UK Department of Health and Social Care and the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency. It does not have a marketing authorisation, but this temporary authorisation grants permission for the medicine to be used for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 virus in individuals aged 16 years of age and over. It's approved and licensed for emergency use, therefore it's licensed. That license will require renewal at some point, because it's temporary. That's all. No conspiracy. not so sure about that. This was asked on the FDA website: question: How does a vaccine go from authorised for emergency use to licensed? THE FDA answer:A: It is FDA’s expectation that, following submission of an EUA(emergency use approval) request and issuance of an EUA, the manufacturer would continue to collect placebo-controlled data in any ongoing trials for as long as feasible to obtain additional safety and effectiveness information and would also work towards submission of a Biologics License Application (BLA) as soon as possible. THIs literally ties in to the on going study hence we are in the trial stage still. until 2023. no conspiracy. Is not the issue with the semantics of certain words that are used and then that people with vested interests manipulate those words and people ignorance of what happens with all drugs to bring them to market, to the n create their own narrative? A drug can be in a trial but still be tested and approved? All drugs are tested and trialled and approved. As much as we want to compress 10 years of active life of a drug into 1 year.. . We can't. " That's fair. But there are people thinking it's not in a trial phase or that is has been licensed. | |||
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Think it's very different in certain areas how they use such things, still getting information about pop in centres even after being second jabbed for weeks but that's better than no info I think.."Yes did think it's more a regional response.. More info the better really.. | |||
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