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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated "

2 is the correct one.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

We are being restricted because some people can't use their brains....not long now hopefully.

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By *enland doggersCouple
over a year ago

PE12 / PE13

Bangladesh and Pakistan added to the red list 2 weeks before India even though they didn’t have the delta variant. Boris had a trade visit planned in the gap. I wonder why they weren’t added. In that time 6500 people arrived from India.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Because we dont meet the criteria for lifting it ... and makes sense to have more people vaccinated x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of people have not followed the rules since day one , there the ones who are delaying us getting back to some sort of normal,

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated "

3. A highly successful virus has evolved to be super contagious, super hard to control and super effective at mutating and finding ways around clinical intervention.

The virus has a lot of similarities to humans in some respects. It wants to survive and replicate. That is its prime directive.

Like us, it is very good at it.

Unfortunately for us, we are the prime vector of its continued existence.

So whilst it's easy to point the finger at "That arsehole over there" for propagating the virus a little bit more, there's another fellow "over there" who has had their jabs, are asymptomatic, and caught it unwittingly and passed it on elsewhere.

Obvious Virus is being Obvious, in internet speak.

Except this is Ninja Virus. Being Ninja. It's like the Chuck Norris of virii. (Ok, not as deadly as Ebola), but even so. Sneaky Virus is Sneaky.

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan
over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

Went shopping today and I reckon 50% of people inside were not wearing masks. So variants are spreading because people are bored of following the rules (in addition to our useless government not blocking travel from India sooner). So apathy, selfishness and vaccine penetrative not yet high enough means no "freedom day" for a minimum of 4 weeks and God knows how much longer after this. A shit show.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Lots of people have not followed the rules since day one , there the ones who are delaying us getting back to some sort of normal, "

And the one's probably complaining the loudest about the restrictions!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Lots of people have not followed the rules since day one , there the ones who are delaying us getting back to some sort of normal,

And the one's probably complaining the loudest about the restrictions!!"

So much

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By *ockdownerMan
over a year ago

Preston


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

3. A highly successful virus has evolved to be super contagious, super hard to control and super effective at mutating and finding ways around clinical intervention.

The virus has a lot of similarities to humans in some respects. It wants to survive and replicate. That is its prime directive.

Like us, it is very good at it.

Unfortunately for us, we are the prime vector of its continued existence.

So whilst it's easy to point the finger at "That arsehole over there" for propagating the virus a little bit more, there's another fellow "over there" who has had their jabs, are asymptomatic, and caught it unwittingly and passed it on elsewhere.

Obvious Virus is being Obvious, in internet speak.

Except this is Ninja Virus. Being Ninja. It's like the Chuck Norris of virii. (Ok, not as deadly as Ebola), but even so. Sneaky Virus is Sneaky.

"

4. Not arsed to be honest, it is what it is.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Because the dictator boris doesnt want to relinquish control.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"Because the dictator boris doesnt want to relinquish control."

You do realise that in the middle of a worldwide pandemic, leaders of countries need to take advised action in order to protect their citizens right ?

Of course control needs to be taken, and it's fluidic thing, as the viral landscape is constantly evolving.

At little more here, a little less there. Close this back down, reopen that back up. Ease off here, hold back there.

Look at other countries and you'll see the same things, regardless of their political leanings.

I'm no fan of Boris, but he's doing in this scenario he's exercising similar strategies that a great many other countries are doing themselves.

There is no "playbook" in a situation like this, though there are some strategies which are more effective than others. A lot which is highly dependent on the country and within their own context and constraints.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because the dictator boris doesnt want to relinquish control.

You do realise that in the middle of a worldwide pandemic, leaders of countries need to take advised action in order to protect their citizens right ?

Of course control needs to be taken, and it's fluidic thing, as the viral landscape is constantly evolving.

At little more here, a little less there. Close this back down, reopen that back up. Ease off here, hold back there.

Look at other countries and you'll see the same things, regardless of their political leanings.

I'm no fan of Boris, but he's doing in this scenario he's exercising similar strategies that a great many other countries are doing themselves.

There is no "playbook" in a situation like this, though there are some strategies which are more effective than others. A lot which is highly dependent on the country and within their own context and constraints.

"

And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people. It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people.

"

Which is why democratic leaders have a panel of advisers to counsel them.


"

It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator."

Can we just stop using the word "Dictator". It's disingenuous at best.

If you want to use the term, apply it in the context where it applies correctly, eg, North Korea, Russia, China, and about 47 other regimes around the world. Those are dictatorships of varying degrees.

The USA/UK are not dictatorships because both countries have constitutional limitations. The US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Constitution. (Correct me if I am wrong).

I'm pretty sure the UK has something similar though it's not something we have written down.

We do have rights from various UK and EU legislations. (Don't ask me to recite them, I haven't the foggiest, but its the usual things).

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By *eet The FlintstonesCouple
over a year ago

Southampton

4 weeks, 20 weeks, 40 weeks. If you don't control your borders well what do we expect. Brexit, bring back contral ha. Won't get fooled again, who yes we will.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"4 weeks, 20 weeks, 40 weeks. If you don't control your borders well what do we expect. Brexit, bring back contral ha. Won't get fooled again, who yes we will. "

Lol

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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago

Z'ha'dum

A little impatience spoils great plans

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people.

Which is why democratic leaders have a panel of advisers to counsel them.

It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator.

Can we just stop using the word "Dictator". It's disingenuous at best.

If you want to use the term, apply it in the context where it applies correctly, eg, North Korea, Russia, China, and about 47 other regimes around the world. Those are dictatorships of varying degrees.

The USA/UK are not dictatorships because both countries have constitutional limitations. The US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Constitution. (Correct me if I am wrong).

I'm pretty sure the UK has something similar though it's not something we have written down.

We do have rights from various UK and EU legislations. (Don't ask me to recite them, I haven't the foggiest, but its the usual things)."

Can you vote to override parliament and Boris. No you can not. Our legislature is state based not country wide. Governors have power in their States people vote to dissolve that power. Simple and easy.

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By *ittleMissCali_MrDJCouple
over a year ago

wonderland.


"Because the dictator boris doesnt want to relinquish control.

You do realise that in the middle of a worldwide pandemic, leaders of countries need to take advised action in order to protect their citizens right ?

Of course control needs to be taken, and it's fluidic thing, as the viral landscape is constantly evolving.

At little more here, a little less there. Close this back down, reopen that back up. Ease off here, hold back there.

Look at other countries and you'll see the same things, regardless of their political leanings.

I'm no fan of Boris, but he's doing in this scenario he's exercising similar strategies that a great many other countries are doing themselves.

There is no "playbook" in a situation like this, though there are some strategies which are more effective than others. A lot which is highly dependent on the country and within their own context and constraints.

"

I'd not like to be having to make these decisions x

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"Can you vote to override parliament and Boris. No you can not. Our legislature is state based not country wide. Governors have power in their States people vote to dissolve that power. Simple and easy."

Federal Republic then ?

I did not realise your President could be overruled at State level ? That sound very strange ! How does that play out with things of national importance, eg, Defence, Taxation, Healthcare, etc ?

Can a State just say "Nah, we don't want pay tax, so no thank you, Mr Pres ?" (The concept of a state doing what they want seems very odd to me. A bit like Devon making their own laws in the UK).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really..?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God forbid the hospitals start treating patients with actual illnesses and gps allow an appointment because then the virus will spread even more and maybe the police should stop using this as an advantage to meet their targets of stop and search and fines whilst they spread the virus or are they immune? Did they have the jab? 1 or 2 the jab that doesn’t change a thing when mine and others business collapse because of a virus that isn’t even being reported correctly on the news so all of them thousands of people who were dying of covid were in fact not. Personally I do not know a single person that has died from covid but I do know an elderly gentleman who had terminal cancer he died last year but was written off as covid. Do you know anyone who has died of covid who wasn’t dying of anything else? not a single person on this forum has a single clue about any of this neither do I but who gives a f*ck. we’re wasting away our life’s living like this and I don’t mean in lockdown I mean within this society that we’re not obliged to be a part of that’s why I’m taking this opportunity to look for people who would like to break away from this terrible environment and create our own society our own democracy we can take what we know from this and use it the way it should be we can build our own population forget about economy and governments completely turn life on its head because this isn’t the way we want to live is it? Times running out. Applications via inbox.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you vote to override parliament and Boris. No you can not. Our legislature is state based not country wide. Governors have power in their States people vote to dissolve that power. Simple and easy.

Federal Republic then ?

I did not realise your President could be overruled at State level ? That sound very strange ! How does that play out with things of national importance, eg, Defence, Taxation, Healthcare, etc ?

Can a State just say "Nah, we don't want pay tax, so no thank you, Mr Pres ?" (The concept of a state doing what they want seems very odd to me. A bit like Devon making their own laws in the UK).

"

Constitution republic. States have power over their constituents. Hence no lockdowns in Florida ect.. It's up to the states. Not federal . Federal governs the country. States individual rights according to the people in said state is supreme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can you vote to override parliament and Boris. No you can not. Our legislature is state based not country wide. Governors have power in their States people vote to dissolve that power. Simple and easy.

Federal Republic then ?

I did not realise your President could be overruled at State level ? That sound very strange ! How does that play out with things of national importance, eg, Defence, Taxation, Healthcare, etc ?

Can a State just say "Nah, we don't want pay tax, so no thank you, Mr Pres ?" (The concept of a state doing what they want seems very odd to me. A bit like Devon making their own laws in the UK).

Constitution republic. States have power over their constituents. Hence no lockdowns in Florida ect.. It's up to the states. Not federal . Federal governs the country. States individual rights according to the people in said state is supreme."

And it falls down to county and city levels.hence why my county voted to be a 2A sanctuary. People not government said so not state or federal. Choices.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We had a major problem from Christmas, so in the new year, quite late after we'd had a surge in cases, it was accepted that data would dictate reopening. With another current surge helped along by May 17th relaxation, we belatedly choose to follow the data. We voted for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated "

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"God forbid the hospitals start treating patients with actual illnesses and gps allow an appointment because then the virus will spread even more and maybe the police should stop using this as an advantage to meet their targets of stop and search and fines whilst they spread the virus or are they immune? Did they have the jab? 1 or 2 the jab that doesn’t change a thing when mine and others business collapse because of a virus that isn’t even being reported correctly on the news so all of them thousands of people who were dying of covid were in fact not. Personally I do not know a single person that has died from covid but I do know an elderly gentleman who had terminal cancer he died last year but was written off as covid. Do you know anyone who has died of covid who wasn’t dying of anything else? not a single person on this forum has a single clue about any of this neither do I but who gives a f*ck. we’re wasting away our life’s living like this and I don’t mean in lockdown I mean within this society that we’re not obliged to be a part of that’s why I’m taking this opportunity to look for people who would like to break away from this terrible environment and create our own society our own democracy we can take what we know from this and use it the way it should be we can build our own population forget about economy and governments completely turn life on its head because this isn’t the way we want to live is it? Times running out. Applications via inbox. "

Yes, I know plenty and to be honest your post is utterly ridiculous.

You fail to grasp the most basic points of this pandemic and how impossible a position it places emergency medicine.

As for conceptualising the state of “anarchy”, congratulations on your awesome concept, sadly you’re about 100 years too late and I think you’ll find the reality doesn’t actually work love x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

"

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By *uke-de-PleasureMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Sorry Boris but I missed your 6pm briefing. I was too busy reading THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF to the grandkids.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

Perhaps it’s because we are all stupid and didn’t use Twitter for our facts

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people.

Which is why democratic leaders have a panel of advisers to counsel them.

It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator.

Can we just stop using the word "Dictator". It's disingenuous at best.

If you want to use the term, apply it in the context where it applies correctly, eg, North Korea, Russia, China, and about 47 other regimes around the world. Those are dictatorships of varying degrees.

The USA/UK are not dictatorships because both countries have constitutional limitations. The US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Constitution. (Correct me if I am wrong).

I'm pretty sure the UK has something similar though it's not something we have written down.

We do have rights from various UK and EU legislations. (Don't ask me to recite them, I haven't the foggiest, but its the usual things)."

A dictatorship will typically be a one party state such as China and North Korea, military rule usually via a coup such as Myanmar or where political opposition is suppressed such as Russia.

I have not seen the Conservative Government suppressing Labour or any other Party.

There is no attempt to overrule Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland the first two who have little love for anything Conservative.

I cannot recall troops ready to assault the beaches of the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey.

On Thursday 2nd May 2024 everyone eligible to vote can choose the next Government.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Hopefully these four weeks will be enough to get more people vaccinated, and closer to safety.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

A few weeks ago a catalogue of errors was levelled against the gmnt which have resulted in over 130,000 deaths.

The response to this has not been to question the handling of the pandemic, but instead to blame the public where the vast majority of obeyed the rules for the best part of 15 months.

You can fool some people etc

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people.

Which is why democratic leaders have a panel of advisers to counsel them.

It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator.

Can we just stop using the word "Dictator". It's disingenuous at best.

If you want to use the term, apply it in the context where it applies correctly, eg, North Korea, Russia, China, and about 47 other regimes around the world. Those are dictatorships of varying degrees.

The USA/UK are not dictatorships because both countries have constitutional limitations. The US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Constitution. (Correct me if I am wrong).

I'm pretty sure the UK has something similar though it's not something we have written down.

We do have rights from various UK and EU legislations. (Don't ask me to recite them, I haven't the foggiest, but its the usual things).

A dictatorship will typically be a one party state such as China and North Korea, military rule usually via a coup such as Myanmar or where political opposition is suppressed such as Russia.

I have not seen the Conservative Government suppressing Labour or any other Party.

There is no attempt to overrule Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland the first two who have little love for anything Conservative.

I cannot recall troops ready to assault the beaches of the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey.

On Thursday 2nd May 2024 everyone eligible to vote can choose the next Government."

Presumably you missed where they tried to ban 'critical'jourbalists?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

"

That is far to sensible for some to comprehend.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"And we voted to restrict those archaic actions of a individual that thinks they know what is right for the people.

Which is why democratic leaders have a panel of advisers to counsel them.

It's a virus the soon as as you a accept the fact that there is nothing that you can do until science has a grasp on the situation. Live your life in lockdown or not. Democracy does not flourish from 1 dictator.

Can we just stop using the word "Dictator". It's disingenuous at best.

If you want to use the term, apply it in the context where it applies correctly, eg, North Korea, Russia, China, and about 47 other regimes around the world. Those are dictatorships of varying degrees.

The USA/UK are not dictatorships because both countries have constitutional limitations. The US has the Bill of Rights as part of the Constitution. (Correct me if I am wrong).

I'm pretty sure the UK has something similar though it's not something we have written down.

We do have rights from various UK and EU legislations. (Don't ask me to recite them, I haven't the foggiest, but its the usual things).

A dictatorship will typically be a one party state such as China and North Korea, military rule usually via a coup such as Myanmar or where political opposition is suppressed such as Russia.

I have not seen the Conservative Government suppressing Labour or any other Party.

There is no attempt to overrule Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland the first two who have little love for anything Conservative.

I cannot recall troops ready to assault the beaches of the Isle of Man, Guernsey or Jersey.

On Thursday 2nd May 2024 everyone eligible to vote can choose the next Government.

Presumably you missed where they tried to ban 'critical'jourbalists?"

Now Lionel even I don’t believe this shower of a govt would discriminate against dissenting rodents

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passion

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passion"
not sure how he plucked a date out of thin air. 21st of june was the earliest. There was always going to be delays, to be fair I'm surprised the last one was not delayed

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

It’s hard being in the UK; 28 degrees in your back garden without the stress of travelling anywhere.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passion"
Maybe because you make your mind up about what you think he said. This date was not plucked out of thin air it was always the minimum date for reopening not really that hard to comprehend.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Research Agenda 21 and The Great Reset.

Then and only then will you realise that this has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to wipe out everyone and everything to do with suppression and the power the political elite have over us.

Another variant, another jab.... FOREVER! Roll up, roll up. Get your poisoned snake oil here.

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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place


"Research Agenda 21 and The Great Reset.

Then and only then will you realise that this has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to wipe out everyone and everything to do with suppression and the power the political elite have over us.

Another variant, another jab.... FOREVER! Roll up, roll up. Get your poisoned snake oil here. "

Google says;

Agenda 21 is a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment.

Agenda 21, the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development, and the Statement of principles for the Sustainable Management of Forests were adopted by more than 178 Governments at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED) held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, 3 to 14 June 1992.

The Commission on Sustainable Development (CSD) was created in December 1992 to ensure effective follow-up of UNCED, to monitor and report on implementation of the agreements at the local, national, regional and international levels. It was agreed that a five year review of Earth Summit progress would be made in 1997 by the United Nations General Assembly meeting in special session.

The full implementation of Agenda 21, the Programme for Further Implementation of Agenda 21 and the Commitments to the Rio principles, were strongly reaffirmed at the World Summit on Sustainable Development (WSSD) held in Johannesburg, South Africa from 26 August to 4 September 2002.

Not sure what sustainable forests has got to do with Covid.

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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place


"This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passion

Maybe because you make your mind up about what you think he said. This date was not plucked out of thin air it was always the minimum date for reopening not really that hard to comprehend. "

I didn't think it was hard to work out. A start date, a number of steps on the roadmap and a timeframe between each one.

As by magic, but really it's maths, we got to the 21st June.

All subject to review and depending on how things pan out in between.

Things change, date changes.

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By *orace pinkerMan
over a year ago

North west

Apparently covid marshals are being trained up to work until the end of March 2022

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By *orace pinkerMan
over a year ago

North west


"Apparently covid marshals are being trained up to work until the end of March 2022"

local authorities like Croydon Council are still looking to hire Covid Marshalls, who will work on a fixed term contract until 31st March, 2022. Marshalls will be paid over £30,000 to enforce restrictions that supposedly would have been lifted over 8 months earlier

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Research Agenda 21 and The Great Reset.

Then and only then will you realise that this has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to wipe out everyone and everything to do with suppression and the power the political elite have over us.

Another variant, another jab.... FOREVER! Roll up, roll up. Get your poisoned snake oil here. "

If I'm right the ' great reset ' has been proved to be a bit contrived embellished and full of holes? something deliberately started to try to put people off Covid restrictions and taking the vaccination. Anyone can make a story 'fit' something that suits them. It's more YT conspiracy rubbish frankly just like the evils of the Illuminati .

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passion

Maybe because you make your mind up about what you think he said. This date was not plucked out of thin air it was always the minimum date for reopening not really that hard to comprehend.

I didn't think it was hard to work out. A start date, a number of steps on the roadmap and a timeframe between each one.

As by magic, but really it's maths, we got to the 21st June.

All subject to review and depending on how things pan out in between.

Things change, date changes."

Very true…except:

When the 21st June was touted as the end of restrictions this date was based on a number of forecasts and predictions. It was never based on zero Covid.

The reality is vaccine take up has exceeded all expectations; current cases are significantly less than the best case model; ditto deaths. If it was ever about data not dates there is absolutely no reason to delay. If we cannot open up now with less than 1% of those in hospital having Covid then when will be the right time?

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By *lowercandyWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Went shopping today and I reckon 50% of people inside were not wearing masks. So variants are spreading because people are bored of following the rules (in addition to our useless government not blocking travel from India sooner). So apathy, selfishness and vaccine penetrative not yet high enough means no "freedom day" for a minimum of 4 weeks and God knows how much longer after this. A shit show."

And did you just watch these people or raise it with the staff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This will go on for the rest of 2021 . Witty said this on live tele . Think I will believe him rather than Johnson who plucks dates out of the thin air . My god I loathe that man with a passionMaybe because you make your mind up about what you think he said. This date was not plucked out of thin air it was always the minimum date for reopening not really that hard to comprehend. "

I didn't find it hard to comprehend . Was very obvious to me that it wouldn't happen

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By *entGent75Man
over a year ago

Dartford


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated 2 is the correct one."

and....

3. People already living in the Country not abiding by Govnt advice. #itsallaboutme

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

I've read they could have reopened tomorrow, but now hoping to bring it to 5th July

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

"

Totally agree, however, I do think people traveling abroad, especially to high risk countries, have been selfish. I laid into my dad for booking a holiday to Portugal at the end of June, it's been cancelled now but I think it's totally irresponsible to be travelling to other countries when the entire world is in the midst of a pandemic.

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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago

portchester


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

Totally agree, however, I do think people traveling abroad, especially to high risk countries, have been selfish. I laid into my dad for booking a holiday to Portugal at the end of June, it's been cancelled now but I think it's totally irresponsible to be travelling to other countries when the entire world is in the midst of a pandemic. "

Your own dad? That’s not very nice

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Why on Earth are we having to suffer because

1. An island is incapable of closing its borders

2. Selfish arseholes fly to one of the most covid endangered countries,then come home, break the law by not isolating and have no intention of getting vaccinated

Why on earth does somebody not understand the delta variant was going to get here anyway...

It’s in 74 countries and spreading fast, including Australia, the island nation, which has one of the most secure border policies in world. It’s also prevalent in Sweden, with their well known connections to India.

What I really dislike is the constant posting with an agenda. Covid-19 is a fucker when it comes to contamination and spread, perhaps some people just need to realise that some level of impact can’t be avoided.

There’s no ‘perfect solution’ in this pandemic, perhaps just stop looking to blame all and sundry and suck it up, there has to be a degree of basic acceptance and resilience in this scenario.

Totally agree, however, I do think people traveling abroad, especially to high risk countries, have been selfish. I laid into my dad for booking a holiday to Portugal at the end of June, it's been cancelled now but I think it's totally irresponsible to be travelling to other countries when the entire world is in the midst of a pandemic.

Your own dad? That’s not very nice "

Yes, I told him I thought he was being irresponsible, I'm not afraid to speak up when I think someone is acting in such a way, he was actually glad they cancelled because he realised a holiday is not that important in the scheme of things.

Why do you think it's not very nice?

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By *iss SinWoman
over a year ago

portchester

Because it is his business and his choice?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watch people now who shop and just put a mask on never clean the trolley or basket don't sanitise their hands.

When did you last anyone sanitise going into any establishment? People just don't anymore. They think we are ok, thats why its spreading.

the virus stops you getting worse but still doesn't stop it spreading.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Watch people now who shop and just put a mask on never clean the trolley or basket don't sanitise their hands.

When did you last anyone sanitise going into any establishment? People just don't anymore. They think we are ok, thats why its spreading.

the virus stops you getting worse but still doesn't stop it spreading."

I've seen loads of people do it.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Because it is his business and his choice?"

He's my father, he is coming up to 70 years old, I'm not happy to sit by and watch him make silly mistakes. I didn't take his choice away, I gave him my opinion and explained why I didn't think it was a good idea, he agreed with me and luckily he's holiday was cancelled so he got a full refund.

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