FabSwingers.com forum: 21st june will it b over lmao

By *jj 69 OP Man
over a year ago

Telford

Do people think boris will lift lockdown or nothing will change . I think stay the same tbf for another month i am missin the club scene thou

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By *annaBeStrongMan
over a year ago

wokingham

Depending on how the Indian variant goes. Although I suspect it’ll stay as it is for a while longer. Which is fine by me

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By *iscean_dreamMan
over a year ago

Llanelli

I think it's going to stay the same all year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reintroduce local rules so some places can come out more

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

It will remain the same for at least another two weeks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the problems in the Northwest, I would say it is unlikely.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

Most people seem to be acting as if it's been lifted anyway, so I don't it will make much difference.

I thought (though may be wrong) infection and admission rates were lower than what they said they would need to be to enter the next stage anyway, so why would he backtrack?

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Even I’m confused, what lockdown rules have not yet been relaxed?

I’m still mask wearing, not flying abroad and not clubbing but what else should I not do?

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Highly unlikely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doubt it .. an initial 2 week extension which will be subsequently further extended I reckon.

Only thing I want is for capacities to be increased at Wembley in the later stages of Euro20 all going well (and even better if England progress..)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All I know is that I’ll be another year older then as it’s my birthday. The best gift would be not having to wear masks anywhere. I miss seeing people’s faces.

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By *orace pinkerMan
over a year ago

North west

It will stay the same, it will be to late to totally lift everything back to normal as winter will be here, back to lockdown

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By *orace pinkerMan
over a year ago

North west

"It will stay the same, it will be to late to totally lift everything back to normal as winter will be here, back to lockdown"

Even with a vaccine I may add

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Even I’m confused, what lockdown rules have not yet been relaxed?

I’m still mask wearing, not flying abroad and not clubbing but what else should I not do?"

No dancing. No more than 30 at weddings. Pubs and restaurants indoors no more than 70% capacity. Socially distanced cinemas and theatres. No adult education classes. No indoor choirs. Only one visitor for a hospital patient. I'm sure there are more

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By *ora the explorerWoman
over a year ago

Paradise, Herts

No. I don’t think so.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Depending on how the Indian variant goes. Although I suspect it’ll stay as it is for a while longer. Which is fine by me "

Ahem..... Delta variant that originated in India

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Depending on how the Indian variant goes. Although I suspect it’ll stay as it is for a while longer. Which is fine by me

Ahem..... Delta variant that originated in India

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

I don't think it will end on the 21st June, the numbers of positive cases are rising at a fast pace here in the North West, not sure about any where else.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"Even I’m confused, what lockdown rules have not yet been relaxed?

I’m still mask wearing, not flying abroad and not clubbing but what else should I not do?

Well that’s ok. None of those affect me so I’m not breaking law in error

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No, definitely not over, if it indeed happens.

Won't be over until everyone eligible to be vaccinated has been offered both doses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's going to stay the same all year"

Lol

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's hard to know, without having my hands on the data and being fully aware of all that's being done in the worst hit areas. It could go for a short delay, possibly not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It will stay the same, it will be to late to totally lift everything back to normal as winter will be here, back to lockdown"

How ridiculous.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Whilst current new cases are low at around 6k a day, they have been rising and are over 3X what they were on 5 May (1800).

I think it will depend on where it goes over the next 10 days. If over 10K a day then poss they will defer the end for a while.

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By *orace pinkerMan
over a year ago

North west

"It will stay the same, it will be to late to totally lift everything back to normal as winter will be here, back to lockdown

How ridiculous."

I'll remember this comment

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By *quirtyndirty!Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Surely cases are totally irrelevant if the vaccines work? If not then what was the point of the vaccinations? The sooner people realise this will only be over when the general population says it is, and totally ignores the government and their crazy power trip, the better .

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I suspect the narrative will be thus

"Matt Hancock announces that the planned June 21st reopening and removal of English Covid restrictions has been deferred for 2 additional weeks until 5th July, to allow the NHS and other Public Protection bodies a chance to get more accurate oversight on the trending rise in the Delta variant.

Mr Hancock said that he and the Government were as deeply disappointed as any other citizens in pushing back the June 21st date, however he stressed that with falling hospital cases requiring Covid treatment, other emergency treatments which had been put on hold and had backlogged due to Covid could resume.

Mr Hancock said, "A short delay to our long term plans is not the outcome the Government or the people of England were expecting, but the Delta variant and enhanced transmissibility in cases is giving our public health experts cause for increased concern. We are listening to their advice and pausing the removal of all restrictions on June 21st. However with Covid patient hospitalisations at a record low, critical NHS resources can be realigned to make a real impact on other critical illness treatments, which have been deferred during the pandemic."

I reckon that's what's going to happen, and the July 5th deferral date will not be "set in stone". I will be an "advisory date, subject to change".

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I doubt restrictions will lift, many of the scientists advising the govt seem to have been against it from the start.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should cancel and ban all foreign holidays abroad this year and concentrate on keeping this country covid free instead of people bringing back different variants from other countries, then we will be ok

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

Sounds good but really

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

"No, definitely not over, if it indeed happens.

Won't be over until everyone eligible to be vaccinated has been offered both doses."

They need to be considering 3rd doses soon for the 80-90 age group who need their immune responses checking

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Yes the vaccine is the controlling factor but we are still some way off the number we need to be vaccinated. Currently I believe around 50% of uk adults are "double jabbed" 95% of those being hospitalised by the virus have not had two doses of the vaccine.

As for the bit about "the sooner the people realise"... this is just bollocks. There is nobody on the planet who doesn't want to see this thing finished.

Cal

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"I suspect the narrative will be thus

I reckon that's what's going to happen, and the July 5th deferral date will not be "set in stone". I will be an "advisory date, subject to change"."
In other words we will never get our Freedoms back , they just love the control too much

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Should cancel and ban all foreign holidays abroad this year and concentrate on keeping this country covid free instead of people bringing back different variants from other countries, then we will be ok "

Out of over 100,000 Covid tests at Faro airport only six were positive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reintroduce local rules so some places can come out more"

The Canterbury constituency has a yo-yo infection rate that changes week by week.

It is apparently centred around the University and the comings and goings of students who have been either home abroad (there is a very large foreign student base at Canterbury) or have visited parts of the UK where cases are high.

The rest and the main bulk of the Canterbury constituency is relatively Covid low, I don’t know of anyone, family, friends, work colleagues or wider acquaintances who has had symptoms or tested positive.

I am also within throwing distance of the next Constituency where cases are as low as they have ever been.

It’s a bit simplistic to try and lockdown locally if its only one small confined area loclally that has just about all the cases.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Even I’m confused, what lockdown rules have not yet been relaxed?

I’m still mask wearing, not flying abroad and not clubbing but what else should I not do?

Well that’s ok. None of those affect me so I’m not breaking law in error"

Snap... But the point is... You can go to cinema... You can get married... You can go to the pub and restaurant and you shouldn't be visiting more than one at a time in hospital anyway... So... Yes there are plenty of restrictions... Some should stay forever in my opinion.... Adult Ed classes are a big one to be missing. The rest....?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Exactly!! X

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Dancing (except first dance for a bride and groom)

Theatres can't afford to put on shows with large casts (eg musicals) until social distancing is removed

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Surely cases are totally irrelevant if the vaccines work? If not then what was the point of the vaccinations? The sooner people realise this will only be over when the general population says it is, and totally ignores the government and their crazy power trip, the better ."
Exactly they are on a power control trip and it intoxicating for them they can’t let it end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think they will extend by 2 weeks maybe 4

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Reintroduce local rules so some places can come out more

The Canterbury constituency has a yo-yo infection rate that changes week by week.

I am also within throwing distance of the next Constituency where cases are as low as they have ever been.

It’s a bit simplistic to try and lockdown locally if its only one small confined area loclally that has just about all the cases."

I suppose if you if ignore and don't vaccinate the most mobile of demographics.... Then remove lockdown measures, and encourage them to go out and hug and be mobile .... Its like night follows day. Who'd have thought.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

We need to learn to live with this, it's a virus and will go mutating.

We can be restricted but, G7 is going ahead - the rest if us are Zooming.

They are allowing flights.

They continue to move the goal posts and distort the information.

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By *r-OreoMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"I think they will extend by 2 weeks maybe 4"

2 max. Boris is a capitalist

He cares about money

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do people think boris will lift lockdown or nothing will change . I think stay the same tbf for another month i am missin the club scene thou "
it will never lift completly NWO look at things we lost in freedom no mate this is the new tomorrow unfortunatly

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Given whether you have been vaccinated and have an illness you can still become unwell due to the illness but the vaccine works as those could've been dead. The number of cases now which is high is from the unvaccinated and whilst there is a huge amount of people who aren't I can see a further delay because of this as I heard this morning on the news I'm not judging those who haven't been vaccinated but common sense at this moment by number of deaths is an example the vaccine helps.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"I think they will extend by 2 weeks maybe 4

2 max. Boris is a capitalist

He cares about money "

Any country has to care about finances. What else pays for stuff like vaccine rollouts, furlough, welfare payments etc etc

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Given whether you have been vaccinated and have an illness you can still become unwell due to the illness but the vaccine works as those could've been dead. The number of cases now which is high is from the unvaccinated and whilst there is a huge amount of people who aren't I can see a further delay because of this as I heard this morning on the news I'm not judging those who haven't been vaccinated but common sense at this moment by number of deaths is an example the vaccine helps."

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

lol..so you think everyone abiding by the rules because the government advises it? I'd say it's because the people have the common sense and respect for each other to want to do it.

It has nothing to do with any wishes deep down for a fists in the air public defiance..its just being respectful..so Join in with everyone else! therse a love

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet. "

And one dose is not enough

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By *iamondCougarWoman
over a year ago

Norfuck! / Lincolnshire

"All I know is that I’ll be another year older then as it’s my birthday. The best gift would be not having to wear masks anywhere. I miss seeing people’s faces. "

Even when restrictions are lifted you will probably still have to wear a mask for a while Annie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

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By *quirtyndirty!Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

The public are ,on the whole, ignorant of the facts and are being deliberately misled by the media and government. The vaccines have been a success and very few people are dying from covid now.

Unlike cancer, sepsis, suicide and mental health caused by unnecessary lockdowns. The more people comply with these unnecessary rules the longer it will go on for.

lol..so you think everyone abiding by the rules because the government advises it? I'd say it's because the people have the common sense and respect for each other to want to do it.

It has nothing to do with any wishes deep down for a fists in the air public defiance..its just being respectful..so Join in with everyone else! therse a love

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The public are ,on the whole, ignorant of the facts and are being deliberately misled by the media and government. The vaccines have been a success and very few people are dying from covid now.

Unlike cancer, sepsis, suicide and mental health caused by unnecessary lockdowns. The more people comply with these unnecessary rules the longer it will go on for.

lol..so you think everyone abiding by the rules because the government advises it? I'd say it's because the people have the common sense and respect for each other to want to do it.

It has nothing to do with any wishes deep down for a fists in the air public defiance..its just being respectful..so Join in with everyone else! therse a love

What's stopping the nhs from addressing those issues right now? It's really lazy and blunt to say the nhs is unable to perform its obligations but why? What's stopping it?

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet. "

But it's been offered (announced) to the age groups each time to contact and get themselves booked in for the vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

Just like they did by scaring everyone over the Kent strain ! Oh and let’s not forget the South African strain that was a real bad one like the Kent variant. Lol what a load of tosh , now it’s the Indian strain lol what next the Isle of Man strain or the French strain , you couldn’t make it up

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet.

But it's been offered (announced) to the age groups each time to contact and get themselves booked in for the vaccine"

Only for those over 25 now.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Surely cases are totally irrelevant if the vaccines work? If not then what was the point of the vaccinations? The sooner people realise this will only be over when the general population says it is, and totally ignores the government and their crazy power trip, the better . Exactly they are on a power control trip and it intoxicating for them they can’t let it end "
sorry but why on earth would it be a power trip... the country has been on its knees and they certainly dont want it to go on any longer than necessary

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

I respect your choice to do as you see fit. But if anyone is making stuff up... Its some your words on here. Viruses mutate. I'm sceptical of lots of stuff. But can you explain who they are and why you think they will keep lockdowns going for as long as possible?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

The government are telling lies have been from the start , all taking back handers , making sure their mates pockets get full too , enough is enough

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

The government are telling lies have been from the start , all taking back handers , making sure their mates pockets get full too , enough is enough "

Perhaps, I certainly agree there has been abuse of process for benefit of some, but you haven't answered the question as to why "they" want to keep lockdowns going for as long as possible?

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Don't think it should be a fanfare unlocking day.

More a gradual opening of the gates.

It's been a long haul, let's not cock it up at the final corner.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

The government are telling lies have been from the start , all taking back handers , making sure their mates pockets get full too , enough is enough

Perhaps, I certainly agree there has been abuse of process for benefit of some, but you haven't answered the question as to why "they" want to keep lockdowns going for as long as possible? "

To get richer simples , as these clowns know there on thin ice as there is not a chance they will win another election, so let’s keep the masses locked down get paid for being share holders in the 2 vaccine company’s , get more vaccinated. More money for Boris the clown and his band of Merry fuckwits

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan
over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

"All I know is that I’ll be another year older then as it’s my birthday. The best gift would be not having to wear masks anywhere. I miss seeing people’s faces. "

Don’t bother wearing one. I don’t. Nobody challenges you and if they did I’d just say I’m exempt.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

The government are telling lies have been from the start , all taking back handers , making sure their mates pockets get full too , enough is enough

Perhaps, I certainly agree there has been abuse of process for benefit of some, but you haven't answered the question as to why "they" want to keep lockdowns going for as long as possible?

What does being locked down have to do with vaccines?

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Depending on how the Indian variant goes. Although I suspect it’ll stay as it is for a while longer. Which is fine by me "
WHY ?

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"No, definitely not over, if it indeed happens.

Won't be over until everyone eligible to be vaccinated has been offered both doses."
we don’t need everyone to be vaccinated we should be open now

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Time people just said NO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet. "

28.5 million have had 2 doses

47 million have had 1 dose.

The vulnerable of all age groups are included in those numbers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

How many variants are there now?

Kent variant

South Africa variant

Indian variant

Any others?

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"With the Indian variant, they will keep lockdowns going on for as long as possible

How many variants are there now?

Kent variant

South Africa variant

Indian variant

Any others?"

The way viruses work, there will be thousands. These are just ones that stand out.

It's normal for all viruses to mutate in this way.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet.

28.5 million have had 2 doses

47 million have had 1 dose.

The vulnerable of all age groups are included in those numbers."

Correct. Not sure what your point is though? It's not the ones who have been offered it. It's about the under 25s who have not been offered it yet. You know... The ones who are more likely to hit the pubs and socialise in larger groups

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet.

28.5 million have had 2 doses

47 million have had 1 dose.

The vulnerable of all age groups are included in those numbers.

So when you said it’s not been offered to us, you didn’t mean you, you meant them.

Gotcha.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's not even been offered to more than 15m of us... So a bit hard to judge anyone for not having had it just yet.

But it's been offered (announced) to the age groups each time to contact and get themselves booked in for the vaccine

Only for those over 25 now. "

That's what I'm talking about pal it's worked it's way through each age but in those have been those who declined as well but those who have been vaccinated and have an illness are still vulnerable to the virus more than those who don't have a illness and vaccinated. from the age group 50 they have quickly run down to lower age groups which is a great result, even better if those who were offered didn't decline for everyone sake.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

Face masks are under a separate legislation and will be staying for the rest of the year no doubt anyway, so I’m trying to see through the smoke and mirrors myself and getting on with it the best I can.

We can see our parents, our family, our mates and even legally meet up with people we don’t know within the rule of 6 (so if people want to meet up off here they can). It’s a damn sight better than a few months ago and realistically I’m sure we can all cope with it for a bit longer if it means we don’t go backwards.

Don’t get me wrong, I hate being told what to do and apparently have an issue with authority, but I know I can influence FFA in this situation so I’m trying to go with the flow the best I can (assisted with the flow of cold San Miguel).

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

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let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more "

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a chance they will let this go, they are enjoying the control,-and the money, and once restrictions are eased the "emergency" is over and the "vaccine" psychological coercion has to stop!

Somebody ought to tell Bunter, Handcock, and their merry scientists, and the main stream media, they are just background noise now.

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By *r-OreoMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

But the night clubs aren't open for us and no play in swinger clubs

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical."

Isn't that how diseases work? Ignoring them and pretending they don't exist?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical.

Isn't that how diseases work? Ignoring them and pretending they don't exist? "

Funny how none of the people who feel this way about Covid feel that way about cancer.

It's almost like they haven't thought it through.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical.

Isn't that how diseases work? Ignoring them and pretending they don't exist?

Funny how none of the people who feel this way about Covid feel that way about cancer.

It's almost like they haven't thought it through."
cancers more deadly than covid

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical.

Isn't that how diseases work? Ignoring them and pretending they don't exist?

Funny how none of the people who feel this way about Covid feel that way about cancer.

It's almost like they haven't thought it through. cancers more deadly than covid "
the virus will not disappear in our lifetime and the restrictions are out of all proportion to the risk

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over a year ago

"Do people think boris will lift lockdown or nothing will change . I think stay the same tbf for another month i am missin the club scene thou "

Think it’s not gonna happen especially now that they got the Indian variant mixed in the media… perfect timing I must say….

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shut the border early wouldn't have bin a problem

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Shut the border early wouldn't have bin a problem"
to be fair I think we are more than capable of having our own mutations... but yes.. look at Australia.... my brothers been enjoying normality for quite a while now x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" But the night clubs aren't open for us and no play in swinger clubs

there are bigger things in life than casual sex and a dancefloor and i pity anyone that can’t see that

its the folk whos livelihood depends on these venues reopening that i feel for

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Shut the border early wouldn't have bin a problem to be fair I think we are more than capable of having our own mutations... but yes.. look at Australia.... my brothers been enjoying normality for quite a while now x "
Can not compare Australia to the uk

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

If all the G7 hangers on can go to Cornwall for a weeks jolly along with 5000 extra cops from all over the UK then 21st June should be on.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Reading BBC news tonight, there is no chance in hell that we are moving to the next stage on 21st, but to be honest - does it really matter?

We’ll get there eventually, but for now I’m practicing “fuck it therapy”

let’s face it most of us are back to normal now and these restrictions will only stop when we say no more

Yes. The disease will disappear when we all tell the government to get bent. That's logical.

Isn't that how diseases work? Ignoring them and pretending they don't exist?

Funny how none of the people who feel this way about Covid feel that way about cancer.

It's almost like they haven't thought it through. cancers more deadly than covid "

Disease top trumps anyone ...?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"If all the G7 hangers on can go to Cornwall for a weeks jolly along with 5000 extra cops from all over the UK then 21st June should be on. "

Because one hotel in Cornwall with leaders under 24 hour surveillance by the press is exactly the same as your local spoons on a busy Friday night?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well."

Any comparison that makes the UK look bad is automatically invalid because reasons

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

Any comparison that makes the UK look bad is automatically invalid because reasons"
if you think you can compare to islands in the middle of the pacific which have lower populations are not transport hubs etc you really are deluded

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

Any comparison that makes the UK look bad is automatically invalid because reasons if you think you can compare to islands in the middle of the pacific which have lower populations are not transport hubs etc you really are deluded"

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well."

Because we are 2 islands..we are about as different as its possible to be

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

I always remember fondly the poster who suggested we had a unique weather system which accounted for the high death rate..utter genius

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

I always remember fondly the poster who suggested we had a unique weather system which accounted for the high death rate..utter genius"

Any excuse really. It'd be funny under any other circumstance. Given the last year or so, it's sad and a bit scary that people still cling to this nonsense.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

I always remember fondly the poster who suggested we had a unique weather system which accounted for the high death rate..utter genius

Any excuse really. It'd be funny under any other circumstance. Given the last year or so, it's sad and a bit scary that people still cling to this nonsense."

We also have an apparently unique disobedient population and the only country in the world where we have a dense and bame population.

Tbf it was quite amusing watching them devise the most colourful explanation.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

I always remember fondly the poster who suggested we had a unique weather system which accounted for the high death rate..utter genius

Any excuse really. It'd be funny under any other circumstance. Given the last year or so, it's sad and a bit scary that people still cling to this nonsense.

We also have an apparently unique disobedient population and the only country in the world where we have a dense and bame population.

Tbf it was quite amusing watching them devise the most colourful explanation."

But also kangaroos.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

I always remember fondly the poster who suggested we had a unique weather system which accounted for the high death rate..utter genius

Any excuse really. It'd be funny under any other circumstance. Given the last year or so, it's sad and a bit scary that people still cling to this nonsense.

We also have an apparently unique disobedient population and the only country in the world where we have a dense and bame population.

Tbf it was quite amusing watching them devise the most colourful explanation.

But also kangaroos."

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Places with harder or stricter lockdowns have done no better than places with little or no restrictions

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

"
Your talking rubbish

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish "

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

The fact there are bits where no fucker lives is utterly irrelevant.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

The fact there are bits where no fucker lives is utterly irrelevant."
it’s not just about population destiny your deluded if you think you can compare us to Australia and New Zealand but then you just like to push the lockdown narrative and also that 5 % of land mass is quite a big area . I suspect you wear a mask outside and do what ever the government tell you too

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

The fact there are bits where no fucker lives is utterly irrelevant. it’s not just about population destiny your deluded if you think you can compare us to Australia and New Zealand but then you just like to push the lockdown narrative and also that 5 % of land mass is quite a big area . I suspect you wear a mask outside and do what ever the government tell you too "

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument."
most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit "

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it."
Evidence of what

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2 weeks to flatten the curve

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what "

Evidence that worrying about the increase in cases is bullshit, evidence that the Delta variant isn't worth worrying about, etc. You're saying a lot of things that fly in the face of the evidence as I understand it.

Please provide evidence for your position.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

Please provide evidence for your position."
the Indian variant is no more dangerous and is obvious a rise in cases is not a problem . Viruses mutate all the time is does not make them more dangerous. Maybe try listening to some experts who are not paid by the government. The evidence is in plane sight but the government has got you that scared about a virus with over a 99% survival rate that you refuse to see it .

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

Please provide evidence for your position. the Indian variant is no more dangerous and is obvious a rise in cases is not a problem . Viruses mutate all the time is does not make them more dangerous. Maybe try listening to some experts who are not paid by the government. The evidence is in plane sight but the government has got you that scared about a virus with over a 99% survival rate that you refuse to see it . "

Assertions and conjecture are not evidence, I'm afraid.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

Assertions and conjecture are not evidence, I'm afraid."
There’s plenty of evidence or there but you don’t to hear it so keep wearing the mask and put your life on hold . Maybe have a listen to talk radio they have some good experts on who give a good insight to it all because if you are following the science you wouldent be so scared

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

Assertions and conjecture are not evidence, I'm afraid. There’s plenty of evidence or there but you don’t to hear it so keep wearing the mask and put your life on hold . Maybe have a listen to talk radio they have some good experts on who give a good insight to it all because if you are following the science you wouldent be so scared "

I asked you to provide evidence, not make more assertions and insult me. Papers? Modelling? The media are desperately unreliable, so everyone says, I'd rather go directly to the source. While you can't link, you can cite.

I'm sorry you believe I'm scared, and I'm grateful that you're showing concern for my emotional well-being, but it's misfounded.

And unfortunately I may do as I like with my face, and so the mask will stay.

Hope this helps.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

I'm sorry you believe I'm scared, and I'm grateful that you're showing concern for my emotional well-being, but it's misfounded.

And unfortunately I may do as I like with my face, and so the mask will stay.

Hope this helps."
the evidence is in plain site read about virus mutation and if your still wearing a face mask well that shows how little research you’ve done in the matter

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

I'm sorry you believe I'm scared, and I'm grateful that you're showing concern for my emotional well-being, but it's misfounded.

And unfortunately I may do as I like with my face, and so the mask will stay.

Hope this helps. the evidence is in plain site read about virus mutation and if your still wearing a face mask well that shows how little research you’ve done in the matter "

And yet, I've asked you to enlighten me and you've provided exactly zero evidence. Obviously my research skills are not as great as yours. Please do help us to gain your considerable wisdom.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Why not.... they have many areas we could have learnt from.... as they have managed it exceptionally well.

The equal or higher population density of Australian cities counts less than British population density because the outback exists!

Damn you, Skippy!

Your talking rubbish

No, I'm not. Over 90% of Australia's population lives on 5% of the land mass. Look it up, do your research.

I'm sorry you think this is personal. It isn't. I feel no need to insult you.

I know there are multiple facets to your argument, I was only responding to one.

I follow the evidence as best as I understand it. I comply with the law - it is the law, I don't fancy legal trouble - and I take precautionary measures that I think are appropriate given the situation. I'm sorry you have a problem with that. I'm merely pointing out a flaw in your argument. most of it is not law and following thing that don’t make sense is ridiculous and as for all this scaremongering about the Indian variant is just total bullshit

If you have any evidence for that I'd be delighted to see it. Evidence of what

I'm sorry you believe I'm scared, and I'm grateful that you're showing concern for my emotional well-being, but it's misfounded.

And unfortunately I may do as I like with my face, and so the mask will stay.

Hope this helps. the evidence is in plain site read about virus mutation and if your still wearing a face mask well that shows how little research you’ve done in the matter

And yet, I've asked you to enlighten me and you've provided exactly zero evidence. Obviously my research skills are not as great as yours. Please do help us to gain your considerable wisdom."
what ever evidence you get your still just going to take the government narrative that’s the reason you still wear your face nappy and that’s your choice but don’t expect the rest of us to put our lives on hold and let the world crash around us