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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " Hope you are mistaken. | |||
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"I think it was stupid to have gone ahead with the May 17th one, which could have been delayed and potentially got us to the end quicker. " I agree or to to have had steps in between. It seems a massive leap from what we have no to no restrictions in 5 weeks. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " It would not surprise me | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? " July 4th at 8 am | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? July 4th at 8 am" Year? | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? July 4th at 8 am" The cynic in me says that will be the date. Hallmark would love it. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? July 4th at 8 am The cynic in me says that will be the date. Hallmark would love it. " Mmhm  | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? July 4th at 8 am The cynic in me says that will be the date. Hallmark would love it. " So would Boris "Born in the USA" Johnson | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800" People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? July 4th at 8 am The cynic in me says that will be the date. Hallmark would love it. " I don't just make this shit up.... Oh hang on a minute... | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800 People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen" I'm not sure it was ever just about the NHS. It's just the sainted NHS is something everyone feels empathy with and allowed for simpler messaging. Consider how many people died in the hands of the NHS and makes you wonder how good the treatment was for many of them. It's only a part of the message. It makes no sense to allow infections to run uncontrolled when we dont understand the consequences of long Covid properly yet. I'm also not sure why when sage (and who) have been so wrong so many times we treat them as... Well... Sages. | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800 People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen I'm not sure it was ever just about the NHS. It's just the sainted NHS is something everyone feels empathy with and allowed for simpler messaging. Consider how many people died in the hands of the NHS and makes you wonder how good the treatment was for many of them. It's only a part of the message. It makes no sense to allow infections to run uncontrolled when we dont understand the consequences of long Covid properly yet. I'm also not sure why when sage (and who) have been so wrong so many times we treat them as... Well... Sages. " So what is the answer?? Stay locked up forever?? Anything we do poses risk | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800 People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen I'm not sure it was ever just about the NHS. It's just the sainted NHS is something everyone feels empathy with and allowed for simpler messaging. Consider how many people died in the hands of the NHS and makes you wonder how good the treatment was for many of them. It's only a part of the message. It makes no sense to allow infections to run uncontrolled when we dont understand the consequences of long Covid properly yet. I'm also not sure why when sage (and who) have been so wrong so many times we treat them as... Well... Sages. " How many people died from working in the NHS? | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " Better later than going back in lockdown | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800 People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen I'm not sure it was ever just about the NHS. It's just the sainted NHS is something everyone feels empathy with and allowed for simpler messaging. Consider how many people died in the hands of the NHS and makes you wonder how good the treatment was for many of them. It's only a part of the message. It makes no sense to allow infections to run uncontrolled when we dont understand the consequences of long Covid properly yet. I'm also not sure why when sage (and who) have been so wrong so many times we treat them as... Well... Sages. So what is the answer?? Stay locked up forever?? Anything we do poses risk" Of course it's not... Don't be silly. It's not binary. Nor does on size fit all for all regions. My comment was on how useless the majority of predictions have been. And the fact the messaging has been clumsy at best. As for our way out... Get the community rates down. Control our borders. Have a process to deal with outbreaks. Adjust it to suit and as changes are needed. Long term... Improve underlying health and diet and vaccine programs. Improve communications and address the damage media can cause. And stop whining when things change because adaptability to what's in front of us is important. | |||
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"A good point that was made this morning 'we have less freedoms than this time last year,regardless of the fact, there wasn't a sign of a vaccine last June'"   | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. " But it has killed people. My dad being one of them. The NHS nearly collapsed this winter that wasn't media hype. I have lots of friends that worked on the wards, all confirm it was horiffic | |||
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"When the 21 June roadmap date was agreed, SAGE drew up five scenarios. They put the number of Covid patients in hospital by now between 2,000 and 39,000 - which in itself is a ridiculous spread. Current figure is around 800 People seem to have forgotten that lockdown was about to pressure on hospitals not stopping covid we cant do that it won't happen I'm not sure it was ever just about the NHS. It's just the sainted NHS is something everyone feels empathy with and allowed for simpler messaging. Consider how many people died in the hands of the NHS and makes you wonder how good the treatment was for many of them. It's only a part of the message. It makes no sense to allow infections to run uncontrolled when we dont understand the consequences of long Covid properly yet. I'm also not sure why when sage (and who) have been so wrong so many times we treat them as... Well... Sages. So what is the answer?? Stay locked up forever?? Anything we do poses risk Of course it's not... Don't be silly. It's not binary. Nor does on size fit all for all regions. My comment was on how useless the majority of predictions have been. And the fact the messaging has been clumsy at best. As for our way out... Get the community rates down. Control our borders. Have a process to deal with outbreaks. Adjust it to suit and as changes are needed. Long term... Improve underlying health and diet and vaccine programs. Improve communications and address the damage media can cause. And stop whining when things change because adaptability to what's in front of us is important. " Wholeheartedly agree | |||
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"I am guessing they may go for the 5 week holding pattern… which would then made July 26th the new June 21st! In good news.. my 2nd jab is on June 21st! "  | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. Then what? If it doesn’t happen on 21st June when will it? " Well, if it's another month delay, I'm gonna take a stab at 21st July. | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. " Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx | |||
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"A good point that was made this morning 'we have less freedoms than this time last year,regardless of the fact, there wasn't a sign of a vaccine last June'" care to be expand on that? we were only at the very beginning stages of reopening shops in england in the first half of last june, in scotland i got a hair cut on the first day they reopened which was 15 july, and i dont even know if bubbles were a thing yet but we were certainly not allowed to mix indoors | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. " Try explaining that to everyone who has lost someone who they love and I don't mean just in the UK try globally I know people who work in the hospitality and it's not a pretty site maybe you should request a visit only thing controlled is your state of mind that is unable to see what has been occurring with people dying struggling to breathe hope you don't end up being one of those  | |||
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"A good point that was made this morning 'we have less freedoms than this time last year,regardless of the fact, there wasn't a sign of a vaccine last June'" We also only had one virus to deal with given Boris is already up shit creek by the number of deaths would anyone want a repeat the sadist Part that everyone or some only thing about themselves but what about everyone else as a whole who aren't swingers it's a greater amount of people not a few thousand | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx "I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to..  | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx
I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to.. "Every country isn't handling it exactly the same. I personally think the UK government has handled it the worse really. That's just my opinion xx | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. " Oh dear... Without lockdowns, covid would have ripped through the population at a pace that would have completely ripped apart the NHS. Due to shortages in medicine and oxygen many people who have survived would have died including many younger people. Deaths would now have been at least 4 or 5 times greater. You would certainly have known about it. One positive thing though is we would probably have got through covid by now... | |||
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"At what point in the last 18 months have we actually been locked up? " Care home residents were | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Oh dear... Without lockdowns, covid would have ripped through the population at a pace that would have completely ripped apart the NHS. Due to shortages in medicine and oxygen many people who have survived would have died including many younger people. Deaths would now have been at least 4 or 5 times greater. You would certainly have known about it. One positive thing though is we would probably have got through covid by now..." One of the issues is I think with the choice of hyperbole and language used. "lockdown"... Was it fuck. People still went to shop. Work in the shops. Build. Transport. Key workers. People still came in from overseas. The only people (there may have been a few other cohorts) who were genuinely locked down were kids and care home residents.the rest of us had our movements and behaviours restricted but people are deluded if it was anything like locked down. | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx
I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to.. "Politicians are in that game because they love power and control, and helping there business friends, do you think there in it for us plebs ? | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx
I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to.. Politicians are in that game because they love power and control, and helping there business friends, do you think there in it for us plebs ? "I have to believe that some are in it to make a change for the better. I don't believe all 650 of them are self serving. No they aren't..... Are they? | |||
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"I personally don't think it will happen till after the euro football is over, he's not gonna let thousands of d*unk football fans all hugging and jumping around in large pubs and nightclubs " Basically your saying that there changing the goalposts again | |||
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"I personally don't think it will happen till after the euro football is over, he's not gonna let thousands of d*unk football fans all hugging and jumping around in large pubs and nightclubs " A football tournament, England, Wales and Scotland fans. Alcohol, barmy sunny weather, no overseas holidays, did I mention alcohol? What could go wrong? | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab. | |||
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"I think it was stupid to have gone ahead with the May 17th one, which could have been delayed and potentially got us to the end quicker. I agree or to to have had steps in between. It seems a massive leap from what we have no to no restrictions in 5 weeks. " My theory is if we had not allowed flights in and out of India we would not be worrying about this now. As usual Boris is a little too late at shutting down. Why are we even going abroad at all. Man is a total idiot. We dnt have to have everything at once. Im happy to go sit outside have a meal and with social distancing go inside. So doesn't bother me it being delayed another month. I am thankful for what we have right now. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab." Well seeing as they came out yesterday and said they wouldn't rule out extending the lockdown, you dont need to be nostradamus to put 2 and 2 together Or are we not allowed to Express an opinion now? | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx
I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to.. Politicians are in that game because they love power and control, and helping there business friends, do you think there in it for us plebs ?
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab. Well seeing as they came out yesterday and said they wouldn't rule out extending the lockdown, you dont need to be nostradamus to put 2 and 2 together Or are we not allowed to Express an opinion now?" Calm down, Karen..... | |||
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"Can only comment on local to me, but you would have thought June 21st had already been, not sure further easing is going to make much difference to some." I've been thinking much the same. With the exception of face masks, things look pretty much back to normal. Not much distancing going on. As for whether the 21st June easing goes ahead, there's an awful lot of speculation going on about a decision that's not due to be made for another 7 days. Getting fed up of the MSM speculating rather than reporting the actual news. | |||
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"Can only comment on local to me, but you would have thought June 21st had already been, not sure further easing is going to make much difference to some. I've been thinking much the same. With the exception of face masks, things look pretty much back to normal. Not much distancing going on. As for whether the 21st June easing goes ahead, there's an awful lot of speculation going on about a decision that's not due to be made for another 7 days. Getting fed up of the MSM speculating rather than reporting the actual news." Mmm. I'm doing my own risk assessment based on the data. | |||
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"Can only comment on local to me, but you would have thought June 21st had already been, not sure further easing is going to make much difference to some. I've been thinking much the same. With the exception of face masks, things look pretty much back to normal. Not much distancing going on. As for whether the 21st June easing goes ahead, there's an awful lot of speculation going on about a decision that's not due to be made for another 7 days. Getting fed up of the MSM speculating rather than reporting the actual news." In many cases they are making the news not reporting it. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. " Personally, I think we should revert back to the may 17th lockdown restrictions. Give it a month and then look at going back to where we are now. Then another month for the full reopening, yes that will effect the economy over the busiest part of the year, it will effect the summer holidays but it will make sure we are getting a hold on things. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab. Well seeing as they came out yesterday and said they wouldn't rule out extending the lockdown, you dont need to be nostradamus to put 2 and 2 together Or are we not allowed to Express an opinion now? Calm down, Karen....." Oops.. I think my sides have actually just split. | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab. Well seeing as they came out yesterday and said they wouldn't rule out extending the lockdown, you dont need to be nostradamus to put 2 and 2 together Or are we not allowed to Express an opinion now? Calm down, Karen..... Oops.. I think my sides have actually just split." Hope you're OK Lionel  | |||
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"Another month's delay looks like it might be on the cards. I didn't realise members of the cabinet were on fab. Well seeing as they came out yesterday and said they wouldn't rule out extending the lockdown, you dont need to be nostradamus to put 2 and 2 together Or are we not allowed to Express an opinion now? Calm down, Karen..... Oops.. I think my sides have actually just split. Hope you're OK Lionel "Just making sure my head hasn't actually fallen off with laughter. | |||
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"People who ask 'why' certain world leaders want to control their populations make me laugh...it's as if they think tyranny is a new thing invented by conspiracy theorists. As if ANY despot- Ghadafi, Khomeini, Franco, Ceaucescu, Tito, Hirohito, Duvalier, Amin, Mugabe, Hitler, Mussolini, Gengis Khan, Atilla The Hun, Vlad Tepes - EVER needed an excuse or a reason. They all just went ahead and did it, because they felt they were justified in their actions. The difference was, they did it blatantly and openly without let or hindrance, whereas these days, social media allows our current dictators to rule by stealth. The fact being, there are no lizard illuminati, satanic nonce rings or 5G brainwave receptors- merely big money and even bigger money. Yes, the truth is THAT prosaic. Put simply, control and subjugation makes the super-rich even richer. And that's what is happening right now, as small businesses go bankrupt whilst the globals gain even greater footholds. That doesn't mean the virus doesn't exist and doesn't kill people- it clearly IS real, it undeniably does exist and it blatantly has destroyed lives. But Covid the disease and Covid the cynically exploited business opportunity are not the same thing. And that's what more and more people are starting to realise. At the end of the day, there isn't one single business that would knowingly out itself OUT of business - hence why car mechanics, builders, systems analysts, divorce lawyers, insurance firms, estate agents and therapists feel justified in charging a small fortune to repeatedly 'fix' things, and also why pharmaceutical companies do the same with regard to cancer and several other illnesses such as epilepsy [from which I suffer] And believe me, the longer the scientists can drag this out, they WILL drag this out. After all, faced with a choice of being paid a fortune to advise the Government or having to return to a teaching job at the University Of Inbred-Upon-Stockbrokershire, which do you THINK they would choose... However, you can only kick a dog so long before it turns on you- and in the end, unless clarity, consistency, openness and HONESTY are offered by this joke of a Government and several others of its kind worldwide, rather than a million false promises, reneges and back pedals, that WILL eventually happen. There will come a time, especially once the majority of the population have been jabbed twice with whichever vaccine [of the many available] they have been accorded, when they will finally decide that they have literally had ENOUGH. Sure, it won't be quite yet. But it will come. Mark my words. And then the time for talking will HAVE to stop." You have more faith than me. A few weeks ago the pm was implicated in being responsible for the deaths of 100,000s of people. As a result his popularity went up in the polls. Go figure. | |||
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"People who ask 'why' certain world leaders want to control their populations make me laugh...it's as if they think tyranny is a new thing invented by conspiracy theorists. As if ANY despot- Ghadafi, Khomeini, Franco, Ceaucescu, Tito, Hirohito, Duvalier, Amin, Mugabe, Hitler, Mussolini, Gengis Khan, Atilla The Hun, Vlad Tepes - EVER needed an excuse or a reason. They all just went ahead and did it, because they felt they were justified in their actions. The difference was, they did it blatantly and openly without let or hindrance, whereas these days, social media allows our current dictators to rule by stealth. The fact being, there are no lizard illuminati, satanic nonce rings or 5G brainwave receptors- merely big money and even bigger money. Yes, the truth is THAT prosaic. Put simply, control and subjugation makes the super-rich even richer. And that's what is happening right now, as small businesses go bankrupt whilst the globals gain even greater footholds. That doesn't mean the virus doesn't exist and doesn't kill people- it clearly IS real, it undeniably does exist and it blatantly has destroyed lives. But Covid the disease and Covid the cynically exploited business opportunity are not the same thing. And that's what more and more people are starting to realise. At the end of the day, there isn't one single business that would knowingly out itself OUT of business - hence why car mechanics, builders, systems analysts, divorce lawyers, insurance firms, estate agents and therapists feel justified in charging a small fortune to repeatedly 'fix' things, and also why pharmaceutical companies do the same with regard to cancer and several other illnesses such as epilepsy [from which I suffer] And believe me, the longer the scientists can drag this out, they WILL drag this out. After all, faced with a choice of being paid a fortune to advise the Government or having to return to a teaching job at the University Of Inbred-Upon-Stockbrokershire, which do you THINK they would choose... However, you can only kick a dog so long before it turns on you- and in the end, unless clarity, consistency, openness and HONESTY are offered by this joke of a Government and several others of its kind worldwide, rather than a million false promises, reneges and back pedals, that WILL eventually happen. There will come a time, especially once the majority of the population have been jabbed twice with whichever vaccine [of the many available] they have been accorded, when they will finally decide that they have literally had ENOUGH. Sure, it won't be quite yet. But it will come. Mark my words. And then the time for talking will HAVE to stop." Very we’ll put | |||
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"People who ask 'why' certain world leaders want to control their populations make me laugh...it's as if they think tyranny is a new thing invented by conspiracy theorists. As if ANY despot- Ghadafi, Khomeini, Franco, Ceaucescu, Tito, Hirohito, Duvalier, Amin, Mugabe, Hitler, Mussolini, Gengis Khan, Atilla The Hun, Vlad Tepes - EVER needed an excuse or a reason. They all just went ahead and did it, because they felt they were justified in their actions. The difference was, they did it blatantly and openly without let or hindrance, whereas these days, social media allows our current dictators to rule by stealth. The fact being, there are no lizard illuminati, satanic nonce rings or 5G brainwave receptors- merely big money and even bigger money. Yes, the truth is THAT prosaic. Put simply, control and subjugation makes the super-rich even richer. And that's what is happening right now, as small businesses go bankrupt whilst the globals gain even greater footholds. That doesn't mean the virus doesn't exist and doesn't kill people- it clearly IS real, it undeniably does exist and it blatantly has destroyed lives. But Covid the disease and Covid the cynically exploited business opportunity are not the same thing. And that's what more and more people are starting to realise. At the end of the day, there isn't one single business that would knowingly out itself OUT of business - hence why car mechanics, builders, systems analysts, divorce lawyers, insurance firms, estate agents and therapists feel justified in charging a small fortune to repeatedly 'fix' things, and also why pharmaceutical companies do the same with regard to cancer and several other illnesses such as epilepsy [from which I suffer] And believe me, the longer the scientists can drag this out, they WILL drag this out. After all, faced with a choice of being paid a fortune to advise the Government or having to return to a teaching job at the University Of Inbred-Upon-Stockbrokershire, which do you THINK they would choose... However, you can only kick a dog so long before it turns on you- and in the end, unless clarity, consistency, openness and HONESTY are offered by this joke of a Government and several others of its kind worldwide, rather than a million false promises, reneges and back pedals, that WILL eventually happen. There will come a time, especially once the majority of the population have been jabbed twice with whichever vaccine [of the many available] they have been accorded, when they will finally decide that they have literally had ENOUGH. Sure, it won't be quite yet. But it will come. Mark my words. And then the time for talking will HAVE to stop. You have more faith than me. A few weeks ago the pm was implicated in being responsible for the deaths of 100,000s of people. As a result his popularity went up in the polls. Go figure." It doesn't surprise me, given the amount of brain-dead sheep who voted him in in the first place. But even they will turn eventually when they've had their fill. Look at Thatcher. She thought she was invincible, but after 12 years, she HAD to go. Of course, they only replaced her with yet another fuckwit, because that's all the syatem for allowed for. And still does. But at least it proved conclusively that NO-ONE is infallible and irreplaceable. | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. But it has killed people. My dad being one of them. The NHS nearly collapsed this winter that wasn't media hype. I have lots of friends that worked on the wards, all confirm it was horiffic" Sorry for your loss | |||
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"People who ask 'why' certain world leaders want to control their populations make me laugh...it's as if they think tyranny is a new thing invented by conspiracy theorists. As if ANY despot- Ghadafi, Khomeini, Franco, Ceaucescu, Tito, Hirohito, Duvalier, Amin, Mugabe, Hitler, Mussolini, Gengis Khan, Atilla The Hun, Vlad Tepes - EVER needed an excuse or a reason. They all just went ahead and did it, because they felt they were justified in their actions. The difference was, they did it blatantly and openly without let or hindrance, whereas these days, social media allows our current dictators to rule by stealth. The fact being, there are no lizard illuminati, satanic nonce rings or 5G brainwave receptors- merely big money and even bigger money. Yes, the truth is THAT prosaic. Put simply, control and subjugation makes the super-rich even richer. And that's what is happening right now, as small businesses go bankrupt whilst the globals gain even greater footholds. That doesn't mean the virus doesn't exist and doesn't kill people- it clearly IS real, it undeniably does exist and it blatantly has destroyed lives. But Covid the disease and Covid the cynically exploited business opportunity are not the same thing. And that's what more and more people are starting to realise. At the end of the day, there isn't one single business that would knowingly out itself OUT of business - hence why car mechanics, builders, systems analysts, divorce lawyers, insurance firms, estate agents and therapists feel justified in charging a small fortune to repeatedly 'fix' things, and also why pharmaceutical companies do the same with regard to cancer and several other illnesses such as epilepsy [from which I suffer] And believe me, the longer the scientists can drag this out, they WILL drag this out. After all, faced with a choice of being paid a fortune to advise the Government or having to return to a teaching job at the University Of Inbred-Upon-Stockbrokershire, which do you THINK they would choose... However, you can only kick a dog so long before it turns on you- and in the end, unless clarity, consistency, openness and HONESTY are offered by this joke of a Government and several others of its kind worldwide, rather than a million false promises, reneges and back pedals, that WILL eventually happen. There will come a time, especially once the majority of the population have been jabbed twice with whichever vaccine [of the many available] they have been accorded, when they will finally decide that they have literally had ENOUGH. Sure, it won't be quite yet. But it will come. Mark my words. And then the time for talking will HAVE to stop." I’ve had enough now! If the idiot doesn’t open up on the 21st , I’ll be paying no attention to any rules . Enough is enough now . | |||
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"Sounds like the inside briefing has started….the Times reporting there is likely to be a two week delay…. Which would mean July 4th…" Oh for gods sake I hope they don’t call it Independence Day. | |||
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"Sounds like the inside briefing has started….the Times reporting there is likely to be a two week delay…. Which would mean July 4th…" probably sensible to do so
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"Sounds like the inside briefing has started….the Times reporting there is likely to be a two week delay…. Which would mean July 4th… Oh for gods sake I hope they don’t call it Independence Day." Sucker's bet. Sigh  | |||
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"Does anyone actually still believe this utter nonesense. Without the MSM and Gov propaganda nobody would know any different and everything would be carrying on as normal. This is all about control. It has nothing to do with a deadly virus that is going to kill everyone, because it hasn't. Something has killed alot of people though but you are right it is about control absolutely xx
I really wish one of the People who say its about control.. why? What is the purpose of every country in the would doing whatever they they doing.. without even staring of them all agreeing to what ever they didn't agreed to.. Politicians are in that game because they love power and control, and helping there business friends, do you think there in it for us plebs ? "Not what I ment. Eveny one says its a mass conspiracy. I'm asking how did every country on the world come together plan it. And all stick to the same story. And then not one of 1000's of people who would of know this would not of said anything about the murder of millions. And if who ever did make a quick buck off the back of it? So what? It's money someone woukd wesrmt anyway. But regardless the money they make now will mean nothing in a few years as they will be using to try and keep their failing businesses afloat because no can afford anything as half the population dead so there is no money..so. what is the point? | |||
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"Boris now saying 19th July. Understandable in the circumstances and they always said it would be determined by data not dates. Just a little longer to wait. " And you believe him LOL | |||
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"Boris now saying 19th July. Understandable in the circumstances and they always said it would be determined by data not dates. Just a little longer to wait. And you believe him LOL " We believe in the data; not him. | |||
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"Boris now saying 19th July. Understandable in the circumstances and they always said it would be determined by data not dates. Just a little longer to wait. And you believe him LOL We believe in the data; not him. "It's a marked difference in response to nicola sturgeon. Who says this.. "She also said she did not want to "commit to firm dates" for easing restrictions, saying she was "not going to give false guarantees" in the face of an "unpredictable virus". And that is lapped up by the press. One can only imagine what the media would do to bj if he said I'm not going to commit to any dates. | |||
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