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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!!" Gibraltar? | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next." Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks " What if you book a green list holiday for 4 weeks, or more, time? How can you be sure that that destination won't end up on the red list 3 weeks after you've booked it? | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next." We've taken the chance and booked Canaries in September. Hoping even if numbers increase they won't transfer too much to CC /ITU beds. In a few months those wanting vaccine will have been double jabbed. Think in 4 to 6 weeks will see if the increase numbers, age variant and vaccine protection comes into play. | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks What if you book a green list holiday for 4 weeks, or more, time? How can you be sure that that destination won't end up on the red list 3 weeks after you've booked it?" Basically, you can't. | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!!" Come on. We all know restrictions will ease for the start of the parliamentary summer recess. Same as happened last year. Cynical, moi? | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!!" This was exactly what I expected to happen, so never planned to go abroad this year. Will be holidaying in the UK this year. | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. We've taken the chance and booked Canaries in September. Hoping even if numbers increase they won't transfer too much to CC /ITU beds. In a few months those wanting vaccine will have been double jabbed. Think in 4 to 6 weeks will see if the increase numbers, age variant and vaccine protection comes into play. "I can see the Spanish & Greek island reopening July/August time these countries GOVs will probably bring in a requirement that no matter the nationality (inc their own) you must be tested prior to going there it’s the only way they’ll reopen. The GOVs around the world need to start basing restrictions on hospital admission, deaths and vaccination progress if hospital/death figures are low and vaccine rates are high then we need to start getting back to a greater sense of normality and not constantly screw the economy and people’s life’s | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks What if you book a green list holiday for 4 weeks, or more, time? How can you be sure that that destination won't end up on the red list 3 weeks after you've booked it? Basically, you can't. " I know. That is my point | |||
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"Plenty of locations to enjoy in the Uk "We were thinking of going camping. Sites close to us that we went to were around £20/25 a night. That has now increased to £40/50 a night. Dont think well bother at those prices! Other accommodation has increased dramatically too. Well make the most of day trips to visit family instead. | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks What if you book a green list holiday for 4 weeks, or more, time? How can you be sure that that destination won't end up on the red list 3 weeks after you've booked it? Basically, you can't. I know. That is my point" You would get a refund so no problem apart from not going | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. We've taken the chance and booked Canaries in September. Hoping even if numbers increase they won't transfer too much to CC /ITU beds. In a few months those wanting vaccine will have been double jabbed. Think in 4 to 6 weeks will see if the increase numbers, age variant and vaccine protection comes into play.
I can see the Spanish & Greek island reopening July/August time these countries GOVs will probably bring in a requirement that no matter the nationality (inc their own) you must be tested prior to going there it’s the only way they’ll reopen. The GOVs around the world need to start basing restrictions on hospital admission, deaths and vaccination progress if hospital/death figures are low and vaccine rates are high then we need to start getting back to a greater sense of normality and not constantly screw the economy and people’s life’s "Too true many islands have 0 cases | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok…" Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok… Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money " Clearly missed the point there didn’t you, the fact is beaches abroad are no more dangerous than beaches here the worst place I go is the shops, daily | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok… Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money " We moved both holidays from last year to this Have worked all through including overtime so why shouldn't we of had something to look forward too other than work Vaccines are doing there job old n vulnerable are protected so we were lied to again Let's all hol in the UK flood the beaches and have everyone moaning that we are causing another lockdown Many islands in Spain n Greece have no cases Everything the government does from now on is about control | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok… Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money We moved both holidays from last year to this Have worked all through including overtime so why shouldn't we of had something to look forward too other than work Vaccines are doing there job old n vulnerable are protected so we were lied to again Let's all hol in the UK flood the beaches and have everyone moaning that we are causing another lockdown Many islands in Spain n Greece have no cases Everything the government does from now on is about control " I sympathise but you aren't the only ones who have worked pretty much all through this..even more reason to make sure whatever is happening with the virus in the UK stays in the UK and doesn't start getting cross nominated with other viruses and strains of it in different countries.. If everyone just shut their borders for a couple of months we could deal with this I think.. | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok… Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money Clearly missed the point there didn’t you, the fact is beaches abroad are no more dangerous than beaches here the worst place I go is the shops, daily" No I didn't miss the point..the beaches abroad ARE potentially more dangerous for a variety if reasons..the most obvious bring ' strains and variants' .. Or have you not been watching/reading much news lately? | |||
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"I just wont be going on holiday.. will spend the money on the garden or days away at motorsport events. UK holidays are just too expensive compared to abroad... although still may go to Iceland x" Yeah the only thing i would go abroad for would be the N24 and Spa 24hr Am debating going to the Silverstone GT 500. Plus I have Santa Pod literaly walking distance away | |||
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"I'm still planning on getting away either summer or early autumn. Foreign travel is one of the things I enjoy the most and Gibraltar is a place that looks very interesting " Gibraltar is a brilliant place, hard to explain, it has a special vibe especially once the daytrippers have left in the evening. | |||
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"Funny how the fresh air is the safest place to be but if I visit a beach in Spain I’m at risk of death but a beach in Wales which is a different country to England I’m ok… Wales enjoys the same climate as the rest of the UK..so I would say you are fairly safe..besides welsh tourism and the rest of the UK tourist industry needs the money We moved both holidays from last year to this Have worked all through including overtime so why shouldn't we of had something to look forward too other than work Vaccines are doing there job old n vulnerable are protected so we were lied to again Let's all hol in the UK flood the beaches and have everyone moaning that we are causing another lockdown Many islands in Spain n Greece have no cases Everything the government does from now on is about control I sympathise but you aren't the only ones who have worked pretty much all through this..even more reason to make sure whatever is happening with the virus in the UK stays in the UK and doesn't start getting cross nominated with other viruses and strains of it in different countries.. If everyone just shut their borders for a couple of months we could deal with this I think.. " No need shut anything for people who have had vaccine only people suffering at moment are ones who haven't had a jab | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks " I think there's no guarantee that countries move only from Green to Amber. They could be pushed into Red, if the risk levels were sufficient. Portugal is moving with 3 or 4 days notice, which is quicker than the travel industry was led to believe apparently. | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. We've taken the chance and booked Canaries in September. Hoping even if numbers increase they won't transfer too much to CC /ITU beds. In a few months those wanting vaccine will have been double jabbed. Think in 4 to 6 weeks will see if the increase numbers, age variant and vaccine protection comes into play.
I can see the Spanish & Greek island reopening July/August time these countries GOVs will probably bring in a requirement that no matter the nationality (inc their own) you must be tested prior to going there it’s the only way they’ll reopen. The GOVs around the world need to start basing restrictions on hospital admission, deaths and vaccination progress if hospital/death figures are low and vaccine rates are high then we need to start getting back to a greater sense of normality and not constantly screw the economy and people’s life’s "What restrictions are Spain and Greece placing on uk ? I thought it was fine to book now, admit I don’t watch Boris / news etc but thought the only limitation was you have to isolate when back home and this can be sped up to just a few days with a test | |||
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" Gibraltar is a brilliant place, hard to explain, it has a special vibe especially once the daytrippers have left in the evening. "I don't think Gibraltar could accommodate all the British people wanting a holiday abroad this summer. | |||
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"I just wont be going on holiday.. will spend the money on the garden or days away at motorsport events. UK holidays are just too expensive compared to abroad... although still may go to Iceland x Yeah the only thing i would go abroad for would be the N24 and Spa 24hr Am debating going to the Silverstone GT 500. Plus I have Santa Pod literaly walking distance away " I'm planning for moto gp in September xx | |||
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"I'm still planning on getting away either summer or early autumn. Foreign travel is one of the things I enjoy the most and Gibraltar is a place that looks very interesting Gibraltar is a brilliant place, hard to explain, it has a special vibe especially once the daytrippers have left in the evening. "I love the feeling you get wandering along Main Street or Irish Town in the evening. Lovely part of the world to be. Bit hectic during the day but has a nice outlook. | |||
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 look at the amount of football fans that went out there last week to watch the Champs' League final...at the time Portugal was in Covid restrictions..let's hope no more variants have come back with them  The UK really does have some beautiful places to visit..we should all support our Island's Beauty and the people that accommodate tourists.  | |||
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"I think we will take a trip to Tristan de Cunha *nods* Or Ascension Island. We shall swim *nods again* Or South Sandwich? Can anyone recommend? "Ascension Island does actually look pretty cool ngl Nice beach and fishing. | |||
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"I think we will take a trip to Tristan de Cunha *nods* Or Ascension Island. We shall swim *nods again* Or South Sandwich? Can anyone recommend?
Ascension Island does actually look pretty cool ngl
Nice beach and fishing. "I wonder what wheelchair access is like? | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!!" Is Wales foreign enough? Or Scotland? | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!! Is Wales foreign enough? Or Scotland? "Yorkshire | |||
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"Or South Sandwich? Can anyone recommend? "Actually, yes I can! Very beautiful, but not exactly sandy beaches and streets full of bars. | |||
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"Or South Sandwich? Can anyone recommend?
Actually, yes I can! Very beautiful, but not exactly sandy beaches and streets full of bars."It's on the list! | |||
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"I just wont be going on holiday.. will spend the money on the garden or days away at motorsport events. UK holidays are just too expensive compared to abroad... although still may go to Iceland x" They deliver if you spend over £35, save your legs, lol. | |||
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"It's all a load of bollocks and has been planned for years to limit travel for the masses, while the elite carry on as normal. Climate change lockdowns next. This Covid1984 nonesense is the biggest scam in history. I'm surprised more people haven't woken up to it yet. Perhaps they should switch of their TVs and radios." Truth | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return " Totally agree. | |||
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"It's all a load of bollocks and has been planned for years to limit travel for the masses, while the elite carry on as normal. Climate change lockdowns next. This Covid1984 nonesense is the biggest scam in history. I'm surprised more people haven't woken up to it yet. Perhaps they should switch of their TVs and radios." Climate change lockdown is an interesting thought | |||
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"It's all a load of bollocks and has been planned for years to limit travel for the masses, while the elite carry on as normal. Climate change lockdowns next. This Covid1984 nonesense is the biggest scam in history. I'm surprised more people haven't woken up to it yet. Perhaps they should switch of their TVs and radios." . I find that rather unlikely. Such a conspiracy would require a level of competence and unity very rarely exhibited by any single government in the world let alone all of them in unison. I think you should consider treatment to wake you from your paranoia.  . | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return " You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return " you may catch a nasty virus you may pass it on to your nearest & dearest | |||
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"It's all a load of bollocks and has been planned for years to limit travel for the masses, while the elite carry on as normal. Climate change lockdowns next. This Covid1984 nonesense is the biggest scam in history. I'm surprised more people haven't woken up to it yet. Perhaps they should switch of their TVs and radios. . I find that rather unlikely. Such a conspiracy would require a level of competence and unity very rarely exhibited by any single government in the world let alone all of them in unison. I think you should consider treatment to wake you from your paranoia. . " | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return you may catch a nasty virus you may pass it on to your nearest & dearest" You may catch a virus. Just as you may catch it here in the UK. You may pass it on, just as you may if you stay in the UK. BUT I can’t fly home without taking a test and showing negative. And also then testing a further 3 times when Back. So I’d actually say it’s the opposite, less likely to pass anything on than if I don’t travel. As I’m not testing at home unless I have symptoms | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. " You both forgot an even bigger one.... Most Travel insurance will NOT pay out if FCO advice is do not travel. So you are effectively travelling without healthcare insurance at a time when you *may* need it more than ever. | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. You both forgot an even bigger one.... Most Travel insurance will NOT pay out if FCO advice is do not travel. So you are effectively travelling without healthcare insurance at a time when you *may* need it more than ever." Nope, u just use one that does cover. So that’s not an issue at all. | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. You both forgot an even bigger one.... Most Travel insurance will NOT pay out if FCO advice is do not travel. So you are effectively travelling without healthcare insurance at a time when you *may* need it more than ever. Nope, u just use one that does cover. So that’s not an issue at all. " But most do not cover. Also the case that you must self isolate on return from an Amber country, it is not optional. | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. You both forgot an even bigger one.... Most Travel insurance will NOT pay out if FCO advice is do not travel. So you are effectively travelling without healthcare insurance at a time when you *may* need it more than ever. Nope, u just use one that does cover. So that’s not an issue at all. " Some airlines are offering cover too. | |||
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"Just having the best holiday in Cornwall, superb weather, the best beaches, great pubs..who needs the Greek Islands ? Xx" | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next." I have not been on Holiday for 2 + years and quite honestly it doesn’t bother me. All the f@cking about for hours at the airport, those delays ETC, stuff it, far too much hassle!  | |||
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"while i can understand people that booked up hoping to get away, i cant understand the ones on the tv and radio “gobsmacked” and raging that countries have moved about categories ... i think one news show today referred to it as caught up in the travel crisis - give me strength! booking up is always going to be a gamble , you win some, you lose some but you cant honestly pretend you didnt know there was high risk of change "Exactly my point. Don’t book unless you are prepared it’s gonna change. If you can’t handle that, then book within the UK !! | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return You forgot one: you may get turned around on arrival. They’re doing that now - Majorca to name one. You both forgot an even bigger one.... Most Travel insurance will NOT pay out if FCO advice is do not travel. So you are effectively travelling without healthcare insurance at a time when you *may* need it more than ever. Nope, u just use one that does cover. So that’s not an issue at all. But most do not cover. Also the case that you must self isolate on return from an Amber country, it is not optional. " When you book your insurance if it doesn’t cover you it won’t take the booking. So, speaking from experience, not just forum speculation. You then use someone who DOES cover. So it’s another non issue. | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!!" have you seen how much a staycation can be ??? We were hoping to go.to.croatia for 2 qeeks i. Aug. Hotel pool bar 4star on the beach fullboard £1800..for us both ok not flightz... 2 weeks bnb in cornwall 4 star almost 4 grand...!!!! We the brits are going to suffer with staycation as they need.to make up.lost.revenue somehow but even so. K  | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks " Go tell that to the Brits who made a last minute booking for half term to Portugal (Algarve etc) | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks Go tell that to the Brits who made a last minute booking for half term to Portugal (Algarve etc)" it only moved from green to amber , and they were well aware it could happen | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. Nah there wud be at least 6 wks between green and red as travel is reviewed every 3 weeks Go tell that to the Brits who made a last minute booking for half term to Portugal (Algarve etc)" They can claim a refund so have not lost nothing or could book a later date | |||
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"It's all a load of bollocks and has been planned for years to limit travel for the masses, while the elite carry on as normal. Climate change lockdowns next. This Covid1984 nonesense is the biggest scam in history. I'm surprised more people haven't woken up to it yet. Perhaps they should switch of their TVs and radios." | |||
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"We are still flying abroad next month for a 2 weeks stay in an amber country. So you have to self isolate when home, it’s no big deal. Work your trip so you land on a Friday, you can be back out of isolation the following Friday with test to release. I don’t understand the talk in the papers of people ‘furious’ with the change from green to amber causing holiday cancellations. We all know the system is volatile. Don’t book an overseas holiday unless you accept the following :- You may lose your money You might not be able to go You might have to self isolate upon return Totally agree. " | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " Hmm. Tests are paid for by taxes when required for public health in the UK. When required for leisure purposes, taxes do not pay for them. Seems logical to me. | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " Just out of curiosity, if you get to the airport and the traffic light says no, how do you intend to get to or from your destination? Steal an airplane? | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " It's worth checking a few facts before posting. All tests in the UK are not free. A range of organisations, including Boots, organises them privately and not just at airports. People also have to have paid for their return tests before being allowed to travel back. If you have a health problem, you are entitled to NHS treatment here but nobody should be travelling with suspected Covid. The UK system may change, as will foreign states, including what they expect travellers to provide, before boarding of planes is permitted. | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " not all tests are. The ones you need for travel are not free | |||
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" We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. " So if necessary on your return you will both pay £1750 for a stay in a quarantine hotel ? | |||
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"No extra countries going on the green list….. Portugal coming off the green list… Means no holiday destination on at all….. Staycation it is!!!!!!! Come on. We all know restrictions will ease for the start of the parliamentary summer recess. Same as happened last year. Cynical, moi? " Your Kidding... didnt notice . | |||
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" We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. So if necessary on your return you will both pay £1750 for a stay in a quarantine hotel ?" Nobody has to go into hotels, just go to other country on amber eg. Greece on your return for 10 days then isolate at home. Simples | |||
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" Nobody has to go into hotels, just go to other country on amber eg. Greece on your return for 10 days then isolate at home. Simples " Cunning ! | |||
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"Anyone planning a foreign holiday this year is both selfish and a bell-end. Anywhere that is attractive to holidaymakers is likely to be well behind most other countries in terms of vaccine roll out. Sitting on a plane and/or a bus with hundreds of other people?! Have you learned nothing? It’s ludicrous. I shall happily Block and ignore anyone doing it. Form a queue " I am not sure that will deter anyone from a holiday? | |||
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"Anyone planning a foreign holiday this year is both selfish and a bell-end. Anywhere that is attractive to holidaymakers is likely to be well behind most other countries in terms of vaccine roll out. Sitting on a plane and/or a bus with hundreds of other people?! Have you learned nothing? It’s ludicrous. I shall happily Block and ignore anyone doing it. Form a queue I am not sure that will deter anyone from a holiday?" It isn’t supposed to. But it helps me work out those who have W conscious , and it’s a deal breaker for me. Cheers! | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles." That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them " If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is "Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS People can't have it both ways | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways "I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars "People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars
People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected "As I said if your vaccinated and so sure in the vaccine what are you worried about..still waiting | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars
People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected As I said if your vaccinated and so sure in the vaccine what are you worried about..still waiting "Not worried we intend taking a holiday as soon as we are allowed Only thing we worry about is NHS having to deal with non vaccinated people when they should be getting back to other non covid issues | |||
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"spend the money in the uk, the hospo industery has had it really bad, they could use our money" That's why they have hiked up prices Really great way of getting people to waste money | |||
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Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars
People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected As I said if your vaccinated and so sure in the vaccine what are you worried about..still waiting
Not worried we intend taking a holiday as soon as we are allowed
Only thing we worry about is NHS having to deal with non vaccinated people when they should be getting back to other non covid issues"like dancing tik tok videos | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars
People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected As I said if your vaccinated and so sure in the vaccine what are you worried about..still waiting
Not worried we intend taking a holiday as soon as we are allowed
Only thing we worry about is NHS having to deal with non vaccinated people when they should be getting back to other non covid issueslike dancing tik tok videos "They work really hard. Please do not put them down | |||
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"All covid tests are free of charge. Unless you go to an Airport then you have to pay £££ welcome to the rip off UK then the dicks on here are saying holiday in the UK. Trust you buy the hats saying MUPPET We are off for 2 months in November regardless of any stupid traffic light. Why should the NHS (the taxpayer) pay for tests for people who want to travel? Tests for essential health reasons are free, yes. Tests for choosing to travel need to be paid for privately. Quite right. The NHS doesn't pay for breast enlargement surgery for cosmetic reasons, you have to pay for it privately. The NHS is there to treat and prevent illness, not to enhance lifestyles. That could also be said to the people refusing the vaccine The vaccine is designed to stop the hospitalisation of people who have covid so if people refuse the vaccine why should the NHS treat them if they become sick Said it before and say it again bring in covid passports Ones who want the jab or have already had it can go about their lives Ones who refuse it should remain restricted from moving around any public places to protect them Sadly people don't want the jab but also moan when restrictions are placed on them If your vaccinated then there is no reason for you to know or care who is or isn't vaccinated,unless you don't trust your vaccine that is
Don't care to be fair but most people moaning about people wanting a holiday or no restrictions don't want the jab
Although that's their choice we are confident in the vaccine figures show it reduces the risk hospitalisation
And like I've said before bring in a covid passport people who have been jabbed are free to move around where ever unvaccinated restricted movements to non public places to protect them and NHS
People can't have it both ways I'll ask my Jewish friends I'd they hav any spare yellow stars
People have the choice to take it or not so why should vaccinated have to have same restrictions as non its them that need to be protected As I said if your vaccinated and so sure in the vaccine what are you worried about..still waiting
Not worried we intend taking a holiday as soon as we are allowed
Only thing we worry about is NHS having to deal with non vaccinated people when they should be getting back to other non covid issueslike dancing tik tok videos "So what's your point You think everyone should be restricted just because others won't protect themselves | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. " Totally agree make it mandatory to be vaccinated to travel or move around in public places Protect the vulnerable | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. " except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed." Post trial monitoring, how scary | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed." So don't get vaccinated it's your choice but don't moan at people who have been for wanting no restrictions or foreign travel It's the non vaccinated that need protecting so simply stop the contact with others | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. Totally agree make it mandatory to be vaccinated to travel or move around in public places Protect the vulnerable " So forced vaccinations...last i looked Europe hadn't fallen to dictatorship... | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary "Nice to see we are on same page with this one and want to say well done for volunteering for trials More people should do so | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed." This statement is offensive to all of the scientists and researchers who worked tirelessly to produce this vaccine. The profess of designing and developing vaccines are well known. It is also well known - abs accepted - that almost every vaccine has side affects, that are similar to conditions that present in patients who have the virus itself. You’re always taking a risk - Pharma could have trialled the vaccine for a year and uncovered/identified one or two other “extreme” reactions. And we would still take it, because we always have. But during that period you can have expected several more million people to have died. Is that your preferred outcome? | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. Totally agree make it mandatory to be vaccinated to travel or move around in public places Protect the vulnerable So forced vaccinations...last i looked Europe hadn't fallen to dictatorship..." No one is forcing anyone Just protecting the vulnerable and our NHS system | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary
Nice to see we are on same page with this one and want to say well done for volunteering for trials
More people should do so
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary "curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. This statement is offensive to all of the scientists and researchers who worked tirelessly to produce this vaccine. The profess of designing and developing vaccines are well known. It is also well known - abs accepted - that almost every vaccine has side affects, that are similar to conditions that present in patients who have the virus itself. You’re always taking a risk - Pharma could have trialled the vaccine for a year and uncovered/identified one or two other “extreme” reactions. And we would still take it, because we always have. But during that period you can have expected several more million people to have died. Is that your preferred outcome?" All scientists ?????????? | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. This statement is offensive to all of the scientists and researchers who worked tirelessly to produce this vaccine. The profess of designing and developing vaccines are well known. It is also well known - abs accepted - that almost every vaccine has side affects, that are similar to conditions that present in patients who have the virus itself. You’re always taking a risk - Pharma could have trialled the vaccine for a year and uncovered/identified one or two other “extreme” reactions. And we would still take it, because we always have. But during that period you can have expected several more million people to have died. Is that your preferred outcome?" Most anti vaccers are happy to let someone else be Guinea pigs until they get a 100% safety guarantee But want all the freedom without the risks If everyone had said the same many more 1000s would of died look at countries who are behind on vaccinations | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not."No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time. I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published. As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. This statement is offensive to all of the scientists and researchers who worked tirelessly to produce this vaccine. The profess of designing and developing vaccines are well known. It is also well known - abs accepted - that almost every vaccine has side affects, that are similar to conditions that present in patients who have the virus itself. You’re always taking a risk - Pharma could have trialled the vaccine for a year and uncovered/identified one or two other “extreme” reactions. And we would still take it, because we always have. But during that period you can have expected several more million people to have died. Is that your preferred outcome? Most anti vaccers are happy to let someone else be Guinea pigs until they get a 100% safety guarantee But want all the freedom without the risks If everyone had said the same many more 1000s would of died look at countries who are behind on vaccinations " | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. This statement is offensive to all of the scientists and researchers who worked tirelessly to produce this vaccine. The profess of designing and developing vaccines are well known. It is also well known - abs accepted - that almost every vaccine has side affects, that are similar to conditions that present in patients who have the virus itself. You’re always taking a risk - Pharma could have trialled the vaccine for a year and uncovered/identified one or two other “extreme” reactions. And we would still take it, because we always have. But during that period you can have expected several more million people to have died. Is that your preferred outcome?All scientists ??????????" Look at how the scientific method and the scientific consensus works. Then look up the Galileo gambit fallacy. | |||
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"It's too risky to book a holiday abroad this year. Green list one minute, red the next. We've taken the chance and booked Canaries in September. Hoping even if numbers increase they won't transfer too much to CC /ITU beds. In a few months those wanting vaccine will have been double jabbed. Think in 4 to 6 weeks will see if the increase numbers, age variant and vaccine protection comes into play. "you got stay positive and hopefully the jabs will work time will tell there good at telling us where we can and can't go but don't stop flights coming from high risk areas straight away what will be will be | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe " | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??"We're mostly on the same side | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??
We're mostly on the same side "Think so vaccine has saved so many lives and reduced hospitalisation | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??
We're mostly on the same side
Think so vaccine has saved so many lives and reduced hospitalisation "Is that fact? I am asking as I do not know, I am not disputing | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. Post trial monitoring, how scary curious to know if you would be so fippent towards the poor mother's who have lost a pregnancy after taking the covid vaccine...or am i just making that up...the cdc says I'm not.
No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??
We're mostly on the same side
Think so vaccine has saved so many lives and reduced hospitalisation
Is that fact? I am asking as I do not know, I am not disputing "Only going on hospitalisation figures and death rate since vaccines have been rolled out and restrictions eased | |||
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No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??
We're mostly on the same side
Think so vaccine has saved so many lives and reduced hospitalisation
Is that fact? I am asking as I do not know, I am not disputing "Yes it is a fact. | |||
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No, VAERS says it. VAERS also says that any report cannot be taken as a cause, merely something that happens at the same time.
I'm afraid I will be flippant about lies - the fact is that all approved vaccines in the West have concluded their phase 3 trials and published.
As someone on a phase 3 trial, they finish the trial, work on the data, then keep an eye on you afterwards. Extra monitoring. How unsafe
At this rate we will becoming friends ??
We're mostly on the same side
Think so vaccine has saved so many lives and reduced hospitalisation
Is that fact? I am asking as I do not know, I am not disputing "In The Lancet, Impact and effectiveness of mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 infections and COVID-19 cases, hospitalisations, and deaths following a nationwide vaccination campaign in Israel: an observational study using national surveillance data by Haas et al - Suggests prevention of death after full Pfizer vaccine (two doses plus 14 days) is 98.1%, and even infection at all is 96.5% | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% " So you're disputing the science on the survival rate | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate" I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through" | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. Totally agree make it mandatory to be vaccinated to travel or move around in public places Protect the vulnerable So forced vaccinations...last i looked Europe hadn't fallen to dictatorship..." You know that thing about “decisions” and “consequences”…. Well.. that! No one is forcing you to have the vaccine… but you know the potential consequence if you decide not to! | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"" and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage "The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%. And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease. Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown "a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate" So I am guessing that you decided not to give your children the mmr booster… because… you know…. Science! Just curious to see if your convictions go as far as endangering others as well … | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate So I am guessing that you decided not to give your children the mmr booster… because… you know…. Science! Just curious to see if your convictions go as far as endangering others as well …" That is not nice. My children have had all their vaccinations. I am not sure of having the covid one | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health."So viruses run scared when people go to the gym and eat vegetables? ... I mean submit your paper if you have the evidence, and await your Nobel prize | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate So I am guessing that you decided not to give your children the mmr booster… because… you know…. Science! Just curious to see if your convictions go as far as endangering others as well …" I answered this ready go back through the thread..but they have had their shots ( you know properly trialed vaccines )....they WON'T be given this vaccine...IF you have kids you do as you see fit with yours. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health.
So viruses run scared when people go to the gym and eat vegetables?
... I mean submit your paper if you have the evidence, and await your Nobel prize "I guess being obese or overweight is a lifestyle choice to aspire to eh...especially as covid effects those the most unless there is underlying health issues that are sadly out off their control | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health.
So viruses run scared when people go to the gym and eat vegetables?
... I mean submit your paper if you have the evidence, and await your Nobel prize I guess being obese or overweight is a lifestyle choice to aspire to eh...especially as covid effects those the most unless there is underlying health issues that are sadly out off their control "I protect those who need protection. I have no need to shame people for their weight or health conditions. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health.
So viruses run scared when people go to the gym and eat vegetables?
... I mean submit your paper if you have the evidence, and await your Nobel prize I guess being obese or overweight is a lifestyle choice to aspire to eh...especially as covid effects those the most unless there is underlying health issues that are sadly out off their control
I protect those who need protection. I have no need to shame people for their weight or health conditions."But your OK shaming people into taking a vaccine..OK | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed. there is always one, this is probably the most tested drug we take these days, keep your tin foil hat to yourself 98% survival rate tell that to the families of the 2% So you're disputing the science on the survival rate I believe the statement is more along the lines of "those 2% dead are still dead and that's horrible to go through"and the deaths that will follow as a consequence off the economic fallout from lockdown,the mental fallout and suicides that are sure to come along with the deaths from delayed and cancelled surgery's and cancer treatments they are what...collateral damage
The 2% figure is with a functional healthcare system - without it's more like 10%.
And you know how we stop all of the "collateral damage"? We get people vaccinated and control the spread of disease.
Vaccination will help the economy, mental health, and cancer patients and end lockdown a functional healtcare system...Wouldn’t be that hard to get if people took ( what you are claiming for in a covid jab )...responsibility for their health.
So viruses run scared when people go to the gym and eat vegetables?
... I mean submit your paper if you have the evidence, and await your Nobel prize I guess being obese or overweight is a lifestyle choice to aspire to eh...especially as covid effects those the most unless there is underlying health issues that are sadly out off their control
I protect those who need protection. I have no need to shame people for their weight or health conditions."on a side note who was shaming,when it's known obese and overweight fall into the covid risk category..but ok there too | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed."
Oh not that guff again. The vaccines are approved by the states where they are administered. Over 2 billion doses now given. Keep up and steer clear of social media spouted nonsense. Get vaccinated to help the country's recovery. | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed.
Oh not that guff again. The vaccines are approved by the states where they are administered. Over 2 billion doses now given. Keep up and steer clear of social media spouted nonsense. Get vaccinated to help the country's recovery. "Ah so there approved by the sates which means they MUST be ok then ...as a famous or infamous ( on your point off view ) likes to say...my body my choice | |||
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. We are planning to go to Florida and visit universal and stay in the hard rock hotel but for the time being UK will do | |||
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"For many countries, vaccinations are a condition of entry, for example: Yellow Fever Cholera Typhoid Hep A Hep B Encephalitis Etc Covid is no different to this, it is just more widespread. It is perfectly reasonable to expect people to show a recognised vaccine certificate to get into a country and also to come back home. except covid is an experimental vaccine ( for a virus so bad it has a 98% survival rate )..until 2023...along with the fact pharmaceutical companies will not be held accountable for any side effects from the vaccines they produce...I'm not anti vaccine..I'm anti experimental vaccine that hasn't been properly trialed.
Oh not that guff again. The vaccines are approved by the states where they are administered. Over 2 billion doses now given. Keep up and steer clear of social media spouted nonsense. Get vaccinated to help the country's recovery. Ah so there approved by the sates which means they MUST be ok then ...as a famous or infamous ( on your point off view ) likes to say...my body my choice
Saying ‘state’ is the same as saying the ‘country’, it does not mean the USA.
By all means don’t get vaccinated, but expect that travel abroad will be more restrictive for you. As it would be if you needed a Yellow Fever or Hep A/B jab.
It isn’t ‘picking on’ those not vaccinated, just following what the world has always done for infectious & deadly diseases. " | |||
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"UK has some beautiful places,Me and Angela went to skegness not long ago, had a fantastic time... Arcades walks on the beach, ice cream, s/D session in the hotel room at night... awesome . We are planning to go to Florida and visit universal and stay in the hard rock hotel but for the time being UK will do"Surely the first time beautiful and skegness were ever used in the same sentence | |||
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"Those vaccinations quoted above to go abroad are not compulsory as far as I know, you don't have to show proof to travel do you? " I refer you to this previous thread: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/virus/1162633 | |||
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"Those vaccinations quoted above to go abroad are not compulsory as far as I know, you don't have to show proof to travel do you? I refer you to this previous thread: https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/virus/1162633" Can't see anything relevant to standard holiday vaccinations in that thread??? | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple " Well said | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple " So in your logic, people who are not worried by the risk and are quite happy to continue living as before should be banned from public places and foreign travel - for not worrying about becoming unwell. Do you hold the same theory for people that get injured in sports or hobby's? They accept the risk of waterskiing for example, should they be banned from entering water and be refunded treatment if they break a leg? If someone wants to take the risk and not be vaccinated because they are not afraid of catching the virus, that is their call and if you are vaccinated by a vaccine that apparently gives you 90% safety - why do you care what they do, vaccinated or not - and more importantly what has it for to do with you what risks they choose to take?? Do you call out people as irresponsible for skydiving or running a marathon? They have a higher risk of needing hospitalisation then not having a vaccine surely. It is not so simple eh... | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple So in your logic, people who are not worried by the risk and are quite happy to continue living as before should be banned from public places and foreign travel - for not worrying about becoming unwell. Do you hold the same theory for people that get injured in sports or hobby's? They accept the risk of waterskiing for example, should they be banned from entering water and be refunded treatment if they break a leg? If someone wants to take the risk and not be vaccinated because they are not afraid of catching the virus, that is their call and if you are vaccinated by a vaccine that apparently gives you 90% safety - why do you care what they do, vaccinated or not - and more importantly what has it for to do with you what risks they choose to take?? Do you call out people as irresponsible for skydiving or running a marathon? They have a higher risk of needing hospitalisation then not having a vaccine surely. It is not so simple eh..." don't be at that here...your talking logic mate. | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple So in your logic, people who are not worried by the risk and are quite happy to continue living as before should be banned from public places and foreign travel - for not worrying about becoming unwell. Do you hold the same theory for people that get injured in sports or hobby's? They accept the risk of waterskiing for example, should they be banned from entering water and be refunded treatment if they break a leg? If someone wants to take the risk and not be vaccinated because they are not afraid of catching the virus, that is their call and if you are vaccinated by a vaccine that apparently gives you 90% safety - why do you care what they do, vaccinated or not - and more importantly what has it for to do with you what risks they choose to take?? Do you call out people as irresponsible for skydiving or running a marathon? They have a higher risk of needing hospitalisation then not having a vaccine surely. It is not so simple eh..." Don't care what they do to be fair But when the vaccine is helping stop the NHS being over run again or death toll raising Over a hundred thousand dead in a year don't think you can compare that figure with the accidental deaths from sports really It's your choice not to be vaccinated so why expect us vaccinated to want to remain restricted to help protect you When a simple solution is restrict unvaccinated and let us get on with life until a solution comes that suits you | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple So in your logic, people who are not worried by the risk and are quite happy to continue living as before should be banned from public places and foreign travel - for not worrying about becoming unwell. Do you hold the same theory for people that get injured in sports or hobby's? They accept the risk of waterskiing for example, should they be banned from entering water and be refunded treatment if they break a leg? If someone wants to take the risk and not be vaccinated because they are not afraid of catching the virus, that is their call and if you are vaccinated by a vaccine that apparently gives you 90% safety - why do you care what they do, vaccinated or not - and more importantly what has it for to do with you what risks they choose to take?? Do you call out people as irresponsible for skydiving or running a marathon? They have a higher risk of needing hospitalisation then not having a vaccine surely. It is not so simple eh... Don't care what they do to be fair But when the vaccine is helping stop the NHS being over run again or death toll raising Over a hundred thousand dead in a year don't think you can compare that figure with the accidental deaths from sports really It's your choice not to be vaccinated so why expect us vaccinated to want to remain restricted to help protect you When a simple solution is restrict unvaccinated and let us get on with life until a solution comes that suits you "Funny how people want all the choice and none of the consequences. I'm quite looking forward to leaving consequences - for actions that weren't mine - behind when my immune response reaches its peak. Having a life again. I've earned it, I've done my part. (No I'm not trying to go overseas during a damn pandemic, but I might have sex or go to the gym without a mask on or have a hug. I can't wait) | |||
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"Really cant see an issue with a covid passport People who don't want a jab can remain safe and with restrictions in place to avoid contact with infected Vaccinated can be free to visit public places as less likely to become seriously ill It's a simple choice other countries have it in place to protect visitors and their own people Trouble is anti vaxers want both no restrictions and no infection this ain't gonna happen Isolating un vaccinated from public areas helps stop the risk of them becoming seriously ill and at same time frees the NHS up to carry on with non covid illnesses It's so simple So in your logic, people who are not worried by the risk and are quite happy to continue living as before should be banned from public places and foreign travel - for not worrying about becoming unwell. Do you hold the same theory for people that get injured in sports or hobby's? They accept the risk of waterskiing for example, should they be banned from entering water and be refunded treatment if they break a leg? If someone wants to take the risk and not be vaccinated because they are not afraid of catching the virus, that is their call and if you are vaccinated by a vaccine that apparently gives you 90% safety - why do you care what they do, vaccinated or not - and more importantly what has it for to do with you what risks they choose to take?? Do you call out people as irresponsible for skydiving or running a marathon? They have a higher risk of needing hospitalisation then not having a vaccine surely. It is not so simple eh... Don't care what they do to be fair But when the vaccine is helping stop the NHS being over run again or death toll raising Over a hundred thousand dead in a year don't think you can compare that figure with the accidental deaths from sports really It's your choice not to be vaccinated so why expect us vaccinated to want to remain restricted to help protect you When a simple solution is restrict unvaccinated and let us get on with life until a solution comes that suits you "What I do care about though is hospital beds being used for covid patients when time and resources could be used better for cancer treatments and other illnesses that have taken a back seat due to lack of staff and beds | |||
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