FabSwingers.com forum: Full.lockdown

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Given the current low rates is now not the perfect time for a full and proper lockdown to see off the virus for good...or as good as we can get. Easing restrictions is obviously going to spark a huge increase, so why not take the opportunity now to lockdown one last time rather than let things drift and increase once more. Lock the borders over summer.

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By *amesoflondonMan
over a year ago

London

Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

The only main problem is those who haven't received a vaccine it's only going to increase that way not those who have been vaccinated so weighing up what is more vaccinated or not whose going to be infected.

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By *etwifeandhim69Couple
over a year ago

Darlington

Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Yep, lots of suggestions and opinions thanks. Definitely not shy. Lockdown, close the borders, make vaccines compulsory, fine or prison for those who don't or won't, certainly no job. Military on the streets for those who break lockdown, one warning to go home and if they don't then terminate. All anti vax, anti mask, anti restriction etc etc posts to be traced and the originators imprisoned. A statue for Boris, Hancock, Witty, Van Tam and that lady whose name I cant recall right now. Need i go on?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

Oh god I hope so. Heaven. What a perfect excuse to avoid the unwashed, Ill educated public.

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By *eavy-Metal-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Ok im gonna come from this trying to see it like this should we lockdown due to cases rising up who to to say. I think we should more concentrate on the vaccine roll out and get more on the first dose at lest. Also in my opinion I think the country would riot if there was even a suggestion of locking down as most including us are fed up to the back teeth of all the restrictions the mounting mental health problems of not seeing friends family etc. As some that has been affected by this I rater see this end of this quicker thne most but as with most viruses it gonnna mutate and we have to ask when is closing the country down and affecting mental health worse and affecting our country businesses then a virus we are starting to get a hold off and beating .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ok im gonna come from this trying to see it like this should we lockdown due to cases rising up who to to say. I think we should more concentrate on the vaccine roll out and get more on the first dose at lest. Also in my opinion I think the country would riot if there was even a suggestion of locking down as most including us are fed up to the back teeth of all the restrictions the mounting mental health problems of not seeing friends family etc. As some that has been affected by this I rater see this end of this quicker thne most but as with most viruses it gonnna mutate and we have to ask when is closing the country down and affecting mental health worse and affecting our country businesses then a virus we are starting to get a hold off and beating ."

Ahhhh, the old mental health excuse.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The virus spreads by contact. Stop contact equals stop transmission equals stop virus equals stop positive results equals stop illness equals stop people in hospital equals stops death equals stop restrictions. How difficult is it? Lockdown, close borders, stop travel, stop contact, one month everyone all in, done.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Erm.....the vaccine doesn't stop the spread it reduces the effects of the virus. You still need a face mask and wash hands and distance.

I do agree lockdown now as more interaction can occur during the summer.

Aerosoles can accumulate in outdour areas where there is no breeze.

Borders definitely shut down, why was it still open to India in April?

Yet Abu Dhabi has been red listed since Feb and they have a way lower rates.

As said on LBC yesterday the Government doesn't know what it's doing still.

They keep pinning their hopes on the vaccine. Let's hope that doesn't effect fertility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Erm.....the vaccine doesn't stop the spread it reduces the effects of the virus. You still need a face mask and wash hands and distance.

I do agree lockdown now as more interaction can occur during the summer.

Aerosoles can accumulate in outdour areas where there is no breeze.

Borders definitely shut down, why was it still open to India in April?

Yet Abu Dhabi has been red listed since Feb and they have a way lower rates.

As said on LBC yesterday the Government doesn't know what it's doing still.

They keep pinning their hopes on the vaccine. Let's hope that doesn't effect fertility.

The vaccine reduces the spread as well. As been proved by the vaccination of Serrana.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Shall we not just bring back hanging you know that your advice wouldn't get you results in the forum you need to email Boris

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Shall we not just bring back hanging you know that your advice wouldn't get you results in the forum you need to email Boris"

Its not advice, its an opinion. Seems logical to me. Stop the virus by stopping transmission.....therefore stop social contact. As rates are relatively low it seems like a good opportunity to put the final nail in.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Why not just ban sex and put it as a punishable crime.

I recently heard China couple's were only allowed to have 2 children because how the country is populated it's a law punishable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why not just ban sex and put it as a punishable crime.

I recently heard China couple's were only allowed to have 2 children because how the country is populated it's a law punishable

That law has been about for years, they have only just started changing it to 3 children. If I remember correctly it was only one child till 2016

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Shall we not just bring back hanging you know that your advice wouldn't get you results in the forum you need to email Boris

Only way to control and contain is locking boarders limited access for supplies and employment it's never going to happen so look forward to 2022 extra bank holiday then 2023 hopefully things back to some normality.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Why not just ban sex and put it as a punishable crime.

I recently heard China couple's were only allowed to have 2 children because how the country is populated it's a law punishable

That law has been about for years, they have only just started changing it to 3 children. If I remember correctly it was only one child till 2016"

Still shocking to be controlled in this manner

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What data set is that? I’m waiting to see that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

He clearly does not understand what the difference is from suppressed and end. Covid is here to stay. Lockdowns only suppressed it. It’s never going away. Clearly in need of a good education.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Lockdown prevented people being infected if people listened it would've worked better but we live in a country that has so many that lack common sense no wonder a majority of children are smarter than their parents I'd say that's why in past the population has been wiped out lacking knowledge but think they know everything because either someone on FB said or someone in the pub or Dan up the street knows everything said so

and they have a degree in stupidity

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By *aulo9424Man
over a year ago

hull

Dear me cant believe youve written that. You have too much time on your hands

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"He clearly does not understand what the difference is from suppressed and end. Covid is here to stay. Lockdowns only suppressed it. It’s never going away. Clearly in need of a good education. "

Their can't be any data to know anything how long any virus is going to stay just like never knowing when it's going to arrive every country got hit by this unexpectedly even though most have done better by controlling it and keeping number of deaths very low

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

"Good god, shut up you clown

Thats rather rude. Its an opinion. Rather than just be abusive make some sensible comment.

Most have had enough. The lies and the bullshit don't help matters. Lockdown was never properly implemented in the first place so what is the point in going through the same sham again? Just shut the fuck up about lockdown please

Certainly the case that for lockdowns to work properly they should have been implemented properly. It's all the dithering and doing everything in a half assed manner that has prolonged the agony. Johnson being terrified of losing support, so trying to keep one side happy by saying he's doing something, and trying to keep the other side happy by not actually enforcing anything he says he's doing. We get the worst of all possible worlds - crippling economic problems for the ones that obey all the rules, trying to do their bit to fight the virus, but sufficient numbers just totally ignoring the regulations to make all the effort nearly worthless.

If it wasn't for the vaccine program we really would have been up shit creek. Which has gone very well purely due to the efforts of many thousands of ordinary people and the knowledge and skill of some very clever people (none of whom are in the government).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"He clearly does not understand what the difference is from suppressed and end. Covid is here to stay. Lockdowns only suppressed it. It’s never going away. Clearly in need of a good education. "

I think you will find I had one of the finest educations in the world having attended one of the top 10 UK schools in Britain. My education and analytical ability is second to none and certainly at a level above someone who runs away to hide in a Spanish enclave because they can't cut it in the real world or make it work in the uk. You haven't made a worthwhile, coherent or statistically correct point all night. Enjoy your ignorance. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do hope you get a refund on that education. First off it’s a Spanish archipelago, not enclave. I take it geography was not a strong point.

Also there has been nothing analytical about any of your posts. You come across as a very fatuous Individual. Someone that needs attention, as life has passed you by.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The virus spreads by contact. Stop contact equals stop transmission equals stop virus equals stop positive results equals stop illness equals stop people in hospital equals stops death equals stop restrictions. How difficult is it? Lockdown, close borders, stop travel, stop contact, one month everyone all in, done."

Hahaha...

You have absolutely no idea!

You mean be like parts of Australia? Lockdown for nearly a year, no travel, no schools, businesses shut, masks everywhere. And now just going back into yet another lockdown after two tested positive in a nursing home.

Sheer lunacy

Lockdowns Do Not Work!!

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By *lwaysup4it69Couple
over a year ago

Kirkby in Ashfield

Ahhhh, the old mental health excuse. "

Well OP that comment just shows you lack of intelligence

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By *stbury DavenportMan
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

I was with you right up until the statues of Johnson and Hancock. They both need to be in prison.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"He clearly does not understand what the difference is from suppressed and end. Covid is here to stay. Lockdowns only suppressed it. It’s never going away. Clearly in need of a good education.

How would you know this person hasn't cut it or made it work in the UK? I'm sorry but there seems to be no evidence of a analytical, coherent approach in the comments you've made. Far from it.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Lockdowns doesnt work, also, it is a big strain on the economy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please stop, even the word LOCKDOWN upsets me, if I never hear that word again it will still be to soon

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The virus is not going away rates will increase when things re open be that minor in 5 years, we have the ‘vaccination’ so the vulnerable are protected they need to stop pissing about an open up, yes more people will get sick some might die but that’s going to happen either way and I got one am sick of being forced I’m under house arrest for the crime of living

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By *ee And MikeCouple
over a year ago

Cannock

Of course lockdowns work because you are sanitising society, it’s not real life !

In the meantime Covid19 will have killed circa 150,000 but people not being diagnosed with cancer or had treatment will be 500,000.

Our children are some of the most poorly educated compared to other countries but have almost lost a year of schooling.

When furlough ends in October it’s anticipated that we will have around 2 million more unemployed than when this pandemic started, add to that 19,000 hospitality businesses that have been lost.

Finally add the 20 million that flew in and out of our country during this pandemic, borders supposedly locked down, most to the Indian sub-continent, Africa and the Middle-east, everyone afraid to say anything for fear of being called a racist !

Lockdowns are brilliant we should have more !!!!!

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Gonna completely ignore your other list of suggestions further down.

A full lockdown over a period of approx 4-6 weeks would probably eradicate the virus from UK. However, as long as borders are open the virus will just continue to be reintroduced on a regular basis.

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By *ee And MikeCouple
over a year ago

Cannock

Gonna completely ignore your other list of suggestions further down.

A full lockdown over a period of approx 4-6 weeks would probably eradicate the virus from UK. However, as long as borders are open the virus will just continue to be reintroduced on a regular basis."

We have friends in Balham, London, their next door neighbour has flown to Pakistan and back three times since Christmas, the last time return last week.

We don’t know his affairs but surely this has to be madness when the government and their scientists are pissing their pants over variants !

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

Now correct me here if I'm wrong. But hasn't it been said all along lockdown was never about eradicating covid?!

It was about reducing pressure on the NHS and reducing deaths, etc.

Now if hospitalizations are low and vaccines prevent serious illness. No I don't see the reason to lockdown.

The way I see it is if you have say 30000 cases a day but hospitalised cases remain low it doesn't matter. If people are protected we don't need to lockdown?

If you decide not to have the vaccine quite frankly that's your lookout. Unless of course you can't have it, those people need protecting, that's what herd immunity is for

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Gonna completely ignore your other list of suggestions further down.

A full lockdown over a period of approx 4-6 weeks would probably eradicate the virus from UK. However, as long as borders are open the virus will just continue to be reintroduced on a regular basis.

We have friends in Balham, London, their next door neighbour has flown to Pakistan and back three times since Christmas, the last time return last week.

We don’t know his affairs but surely this has to be madness when the government and their scientists are pissing their pants over variants !"

So Pakistan is, I believe, on the red list. So this neighbour should be strictly quarantining for two weeks after every trip. Wonder if he is?

Also wonder when his flight arrives at Heathrow/Gatwick/Stansted whether he and his fellow passengers are being kept apart in the arrivals area from other passengers from other flights from non-red list countries? Evidence suggests not!

Wonder if he uses public transport to return home from airport?

THIS is why we will continue to have outbreaks of the virus in the UK regardless of how many are vaccinated. The majority of the rest of the world simply cannot afford the same vaccine coverage, so mutations WILL happen and they WILL enter the UK.

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By *xploring_FunWoman
over a year ago

Visiting Scotland

It’s not going to work though - for the exact same reasons only isolating them vulnerable wouldn’t work.

You can’t have total lockdown. People need to buy food. They need to see doctors and dentists.

People still need to mix in care homes, and fire stations and hospitals.

Essential services, even if you cut them to the bone, still have to go on so you are still going to have transmission.

It’s not going to go away completely. Rising numbers is inevitable as restrictions loosen. It’s expected and, as long as it doesn’t go crazy high, it’s ok.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

So no hospitals working, no food in the shops and no shops open, no police, no fire brigade, no ambulances, no power, no water.

Oh dear not really thought this through

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

You stay home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I kind of don’t understand why they didn’t do a world wide 4 week lockdown in the beginning. That would have stopped this virus from the start. The only way we are going to stop it is of all countries work together but we can’t even get the people of this country to follow rules so we are just going to have to live with it.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"I kind of don’t understand why they didn’t do a world wide 4 week lockdown in the beginning. That would have stopped this virus from the start. The only way we are going to stop it is of all countries work together but we can’t even get the people of this country to follow rules so we are just going to have to live with it. "

Countries can’t / won’t agree on cutting carbon emissions, so little chance of working together on this!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

It's behaviour and attitude like this that not only the people in the house of commons should use but in society is the reason why we are in the position we're in still, no compassion it's a screwed up world but I'd say doesn't help taking chunks out of each other

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Just get vaccinated, the more that do, the better protected we all are.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Just get vaccinated, the more that do, the better protected we all are.

Yes, and before that, each one of us maintaining physical distancing makes a difference

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Just get vaccinated, the more that do, the better protected we all are.

This

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By *igDickSwansMan
over a year ago

Swansea City Centre

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

They haven't had a plan for elimination yet, so it would be novel.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Given what is already in place with monitoring by the police of people coming back from holiday their wouldn't be any logical reasoning for anything further zones have been marked as well

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman
over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks

Ooo i know this one...Handmaids Tale right!

Promiscuous and/or single mothers rounded up and made to have babies for the posh folk...hung or shot if attempts to leave are made...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"They haven't had a plan for elimination yet, so it would be novel. "

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

Like fixing a leaky bucket with sellotape.

The virus is here for good. In time it will be viewed the same as the flu, we’ll just learn to live with it.

Moving forward, more lockdowns would have more negative ramifications than the virus itself, the economy, mental health etc etc, and even if the government tried to impose them, do you really think the British public would take any notice? I doubt that very much.

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

"Just get vaccinated, the more that do, the better protected we all are.

Agree completely but unfortunately not everyone thinks that logically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously? Or is this a wind up. We dnt need anymore lockdownd. Just people with a modicum of common sense. Lockdowns are pointless now. WEVE ALL HAD ENOUGH.

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

Seriously? Or is this a wind up. We dnt need anymore lockdownd. Just people with a modicum of common sense. Lockdowns are pointless now. WEVE ALL HAD ENOUGH."

Reading some of the OP’s responses, I think he was just in need of a little attention

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Lockdowns or vaccinations - some people have wanted neither, expecting magic

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Lockdowns or vaccinations - some people have wanted neither, expecting magic

Either magic or other people to do the work for them.

It's just ridiculous.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

"Lockdowns or vaccinations - some people have wanted neither, expecting magic

Covidius Eliminatius!!

Nope, didn't work. Perhaps it's all in the pronunciation?

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend

"Lockdowns or vaccinations - some people have wanted neither, expecting magic

Covidius Eliminatius!!

Nope, didn't work. Perhaps it's all in the pronunciation?"

Maybe a different wand?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Lockdowns or vaccinations - some people have wanted neither, expecting magic

Covidius Eliminatius!!

Nope, didn't work. Perhaps it's all in the pronunciation?"

I think it's pronounced Ostrich head in sandus

And the follow up spell is snowflakes fix it for us

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

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They keep pinning their hopes on the vaccine. Let's hope that doesn't effect fertility.

Why not? Is there a worldwide shortage of people?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

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They keep pinning their hopes on the vaccine. Let's hope that doesn't effect fertility.

Why not? Is there a worldwide shortage of people?"

Hmm careful we might start hearing about The Handmaids Tale and Children of Men (both very good BTW).

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Hahaha...

You have absolutely no idea!

Sheer lunacy

Lockdowns Do Not Work!!

I notice "parts of Australia"

What about the other parts, where Draconian measures have killed outbreaks stone dead, and they have their lives back with almost no death or illness?

How awful it must be

I'll have to tell my family how much better it is in the UK. I'm sure they'll send help for my addled mind

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By *rgasmickMan
over a year ago

Visting

Yawn, get a life.

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By *LIRTWITHUSCouple
over a year ago

Chester

There's fair few think should lockselves down permanently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What an odd thing to want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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They keep pinning their hopes on the vaccine. Let's hope that doesn't effect fertility.

Why not? Is there a worldwide shortage of people?"

the opposite. over population. over polluted. the petri dish of Covid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i think everyone has gone in hard on the OP like he is a lunatic to be honest when the premise isn’t all that broken

its effectively what Australia and New Zealand did last year - complete lockdown while cases were low, entirely eradicated it from their country and then went back to pretty much normal life

the reason i disagree OP with this for the UK is down to a few things -

1. we have so much lockdown fatigue now after this long and our enforcement is rubbish , so even if we decided that was the strategy it would only be the people following the rules that get penalised, the flaunters will continue to flaunt, we wont get 100% lockdown, therefore not 100% eradication so its wasted effort

2. our border control is shocking - even if we did eradicate it we would let it right back in the door the day after, we did nothing about changing how trade / supply is brought to the UK so even if we close the airports we still have entry points wide open, unless the whole world did the same lockdown at the same time and it went away globally, again aiming for eradication in the uk is wasted effort

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gonna completely ignore your other list of suggestions further down.

A full lockdown over a period of approx 4-6 weeks would probably eradicate the virus from UK. However, as long as borders are open the virus will just continue to be reintroduced on a regular basis."

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By *omerset1976Man
over a year ago

Burnham

Let’s just close everything down for good! Lock ourselves in our homes permanently, until we get evicted! I don’t like work anyway.... who needs money?

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Given the current low rates is now not the perfect time for a full and proper lockdown to see off the virus for good...or as good as we can get. Easing restrictions is obviously going to spark a huge increase, so why not take the opportunity now to lockdown one last time rather than let things drift and increase once more. Lock the borders over summer."
don’t be so ridiculous covid will not go away if we have another lockdown it’s here to stay and lockdowns have not been proved to stop one death with covid . We should be back open and getting on with life

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"i think everyone has gone in hard on the OP like he is a lunatic to be honest when the premise isn’t all that broken

its effectively what Australia and New Zealand did last year - complete lockdown while cases were low, entirely eradicated it from their country and then went back to pretty much normal life

the reason i disagree OP with this for the UK is down to a few things -

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By *omerset1976Man
over a year ago

Burnham

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By *omerset1976Man
over a year ago

Burnham

"Given the current low rates is now not the perfect time for a full and proper lockdown to see off the virus for good...or as good as we can get. Easing restrictions is obviously going to spark a huge increase, so why not take the opportunity now to lockdown one last time rather than let things drift and increase once more. Lock the borders over summer. don’t be so ridiculous covid will not go away if we have another lockdown it’s here to stay and lockdowns have not been proved to stop one death with covid . We should be back open and getting on with life "

Well said!!!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So how does a total lockdown work for keyworkers ? Just canon fodder are we ? Aslong as the majority are safe an secure in thier palaces huh ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i think everyone has gone in hard on the OP like he is a lunatic to be honest when the premise isn’t all that broken

its effectively what Australia and New Zealand did last year - complete lockdown while cases were low, entirely eradicated it from their country and then went back to pretty much normal life

the reason i disagree OP with this for the UK is down to a few things -

you can’t compare New Zealand and Australia to us "

did you read beyond the second line of my post

. where i discussed the reasons i dont think it would work for us because of how uk june 2021 differs to australia in march 2020

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

The problem is everyone on the planet must do the same but that’s never going to happen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

what i will say i am learning more and more from this virus forum is as the lockdown fatigue grows people are getting so angry, there is no appetite for discussion anymore , no ability to see the logic in someone elses argument while still disagreeing and rebutting it

ITS JUST ALL ANGRY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS AND LOTS OF PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!! or maybe an occasional “shut up you talk crap” style

and really if that is representative of the mood and tension level of the general public, god help us if we do see another spike and end up with another lockdown

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

In a word NO!! X

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Ha ha! Some might think u serious lol x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So how does a total lockdown work for keyworkers ? Just canon fodder are we ? Aslong as the majority are safe an secure in thier palaces huh ?"

I stay the fuck at home so I'm not a disease vector to threaten you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Absolutely close the borders, we can’t get moving for caravans & motorhomes from down south. Given that flights are still coming in to your airports from India, our border should be closed to non essential travel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So how does a total lockdown work for keyworkers ? Just canon fodder are we ? Aslong as the majority are safe an secure in thier palaces huh ?

I stay the fuck at home so I'm not a disease vector to threaten you."

Would be nice to have that option

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"So how does a total lockdown work for keyworkers ? Just canon fodder are we ? Aslong as the majority are safe an secure in thier palaces huh ?

I stay the fuck at home so I'm not a disease vector to threaten you.

Would be nice to have that option"

I do what I can. That's all I can do.

I'm sorry I'm not a key worker?

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By *S2004Man
over a year ago

Bromsgrove

"So how does a total lockdown work for keyworkers ? Just canon fodder are we ? Aslong as the majority are safe an secure in thier palaces huh ?"

I am a key worker but don’t think like this. Some of us have jobs that require us to be at work, some have jobs that can be completed equally well without travelling. There have always been those that work from hone, even pre covid, we have just adapted working practices to allow more to work this way, surely this is a good thing. Why expose more people to risk than is necessary throughout this whole pandemic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly and think of the economy , money not spent on offices etc, less commuting, keep it that way, less hands for me to hold when their relatives are gasping for their last breaths

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

Oh god I hope so. Heaven. What a perfect excuse to avoid the unwashed, Ill educated public."

My ironyometer blew a fuse at "ill educated public"

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

Oh god I hope so. Heaven. What a perfect excuse to avoid the unwashed, Ill educated public.

My ironyometer blew a fuse at "ill educated public"

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

The current economic situation the UK is in, a lockdown to the OP's proportions is not feasable.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"what i will say i am learning more and more from this virus forum is as the lockdown fatigue grows people are getting so angry, there is no appetite for discussion anymore , no ability to see the logic in someone elses argument while still disagreeing and rebutting it

ITS JUST ALL ANGRY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS AND LOTS OF PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!! or maybe an occasional “shut up you talk crap” style

and really if that is representative of the mood and tension level of the general public, god help us if we do see another spike and end up with another lockdown

I’ve felt that way for a long time and at times openly challenge tribalist binary arguments, just because! I truly hate the absolutism displayed by some, the passive aggressive nature of others, and the stating of FACT by others who subsequently fail to provide a source for their info.

I reckon everyone should get in a room together and try talking to each other in the same way as they do on social media - might be a few black eyes!

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over a year ago

ITS JUST ALL ANGRY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS AND LOTS OF PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!! or maybe an occasional “shut up you talk crap” style

and really if that is representative of the mood and tension level of the general public, god help us if we do see another spike and end up with another lockdown

I reckon everyone should get in a room together and try talking to each other in the same way as they do on social media - might be a few black eyes!"

its more than even just not being very nice how we speak to each other

its got me thinking if this is indicative of the tension and discontent levels - if we have to lockdown again , even legitimately because of another huge wave of hospitalisations, i expect to see riots in the streets

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

I think that ship has sailed OP, sadly. Here in Scotland I fear we are going to go on a week by week basis moving tiers up and down like a yo-yo for a long time time to come. I really want to see the light at the end of the tunnel but it’s still very hazy!

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By *omerset1976Man
over a year ago

Burnham

ITS JUST ALL ANGRY RESPONSES IN CAPITALS AND LOTS OF PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!! or maybe an occasional “shut up you talk crap” style

and really if that is representative of the mood and tension level of the general public, god help us if we do see another spike and end up with another lockdown

I reckon everyone should get in a room together and try talking to each other in the same way as they do on social media - might be a few black eyes!

its more than even just not being very nice how we speak to each other

I don’t think they’ll be riots... just people not doing what they’re being asked to do. Lockdown again! People will just ignore it... can’t blame them really. This virus is here and it will be ere for years to come. Live with it.

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By *ichardjjCouple
over a year ago

telford

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

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By *dgeofheaven71Man
over a year ago

Portsmouth and Blackpool

Though I am not in favour of a full lock down again as home schooling is a balls ache, I did venture out to Thorpe Park yesterday as a surprise for someone and as they are meant to be working at reduced capacity to lessen the risk, why did it still take 2 hours to get on a ride plus the car park was bloody full and there was no social spacing which was very frightening and stacks of people wearing no masks , shoot the lot of them I say ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we get another lockdown in three days I will be back on painkillers as I will not be able to go to the swimming pool my pain will be bad and it will flare up prostatitis then I will not be able to work. I have not long got back to work after the last lockdown. If it happens again I could lose my job I can only work two days a week due to my disability

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"Though I am not in favour of a full lock down again as home schooling is a balls ache, I did venture out to Thorpe Park yesterday as a surprise for someone and as they are meant to be working at reduced capacity to lessen the risk, why did it still take 2 hours to get on a ride plus the car park was bloody full and there was no social spacing which was very frightening and stacks of people wearing no masks , shoot the lot of them I say ????

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the government has done a good job scaring you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Sure build guard towers and turn the place into a big prison

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Sure build guard towers and turn the place into a big prison

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We need communism now , let’s inform on one another , no free speech , State monitor your every move , can’t leave your own Borders , you know it makes sense

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Oh my, nice post, I'm going to get popcorn and watch. OP. Please do you suggest anything else? You're being shy surely?

Sure build guard towers and turn the place into a big prison

We need communism now , let’s inform on one another , no free speech , State monitor your every move , can’t leave your own Borders , you know it makes sense "

Some people shouldn't have the gift of free speech, the silly nonsense they come out with.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do hope you get a refund on that education. First off it’s a Spanish archipelago, not enclave. I take it geography was not a strong point.

Also there has been nothing analytical about any of your posts. You come across as a very fatuous Individual. Someone that needs attention, as life has passed you by. "

Funny that.... i actually have a degree in geography and geology with a masters degree and a PhD in the study of earthquake zones which involved analysis of global seismic data from the last 60 years. I don't need attention, I need wider society to wake up and take responsibility for their actions and how those actions affect others. Life has certainly not passed me by. I have travelled the world during my studies and career...places most don't even know exist. The whole point of my post is that I wish to return to those freedoms instead of bumbling along in green, Amber, red zones which change weekly. Lockdown now, make a final effort. If we don't we will go on in limbo for the foreseeable.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I do hope you get a refund on that education. First off it’s a Spanish archipelago, not enclave. I take it geography was not a strong point.

Also there has been nothing analytical about any of your posts. You come across as a very fatuous Individual. Someone that needs attention, as life has passed you by.

It's amazing that people will reject an idea as attention seeking (or insanity, or virtue signalling, or whatever) just because it sits outside what they've contemplated.

I get where you're coming from, OP.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I do hope you get a refund on that education. First off it’s a Spanish archipelago, not enclave. I take it geography was not a strong point.

Also there has been nothing analytical about any of your posts. You come across as a very fatuous Individual. Someone that needs attention, as life has passed you by.

It's amazing that people will reject an idea as attention seeking (or insanity, or virtue signalling, or whatever) just because it sits outside what they've contemplated.

I get where you're coming from, OP."

Thankyou for your comment. I dont want lockdown in an ideal world but we are where we are. Cause and effect, actions and reactions. The government is apparently data led and the best way to convert the data is to lockdown and kill the numbers. If we carry on as we are the numbers of infections will continue to rise, deaths will continue to rise and ad hoc restricrions, tier systems, local restrictions will be reintroduced.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have never been truly lockdown. First one roads were pretty empty and Cummings screwed it all up by going to get his eyes tested. Second lockdown and suddenly everyone was a key worker. Flights still entering the country from red zones. Its here to stay get used to it and get on with your lives.

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By *ngel696969Woman
over a year ago

Farnworth

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

Oh god I hope so. Heaven. What a perfect excuse to avoid the unwashed, Ill educated public."

And of course the weirdos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

No, that's taking off and nuking the whole site from orbit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Given that the virus has spread World wide and the UK's reliance on imports then there is no way to totally avoid any re-infection. Add to that the fact the UK is a global travel hub. The only way to totally stop any infection would be to totally isolate the uk from the world...as the UK isn't self sufficient on food and many other products and relies on imports and exports to survive economically then it's not possible...a lockdown now would probably only delay any re-emergence of infections. Add to that the huge financial and mental health issues associated with lockdown then is it worth it ? The vaccine is showing it reduces the infection rate and serious cases among those who do become infected. So no another lockdown isn't the answer in our opinion.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"Maybe we should all stay home forever?

After all it's the only way to be 100% sure right?

No, that's taking off and nuking the whole site from orbit."

Sneaky Aliens reference!

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By *ee And MikeCouple
over a year ago

Cannock

Based on the fact that we have 5 flights a day from India coming into Heathrow and we’ve allowed 20 million through our borders this last year during a supposed lockdown our government have proved that they are just a bunch of brainwashing scum that have handled the whole pandemic worse than a third world dictatorship !

Now we have a Nepal variant that the WHO claim they know nothing about, who’s lying ?

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"Given that the virus has spread World wide and the UK's reliance on imports then there is no way to totally avoid any re-infection. Add to that the fact the UK is a global travel hub. The only way to totally stop any infection would be to totally isolate the uk from the world...as the UK isn't self sufficient on food and many other products and relies on imports and exports to survive economically then it's not possible...a lockdown now would probably only delay any re-emergence of infections. Add to that the huge financial and mental health issues associated with lockdown then is it worth it ? The vaccine is showing it reduces the infection rate and serious cases among those who do become infected. So no another lockdown isn't the answer in our opinion."

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"I do hope you get a refund on that education. First off it’s a Spanish archipelago, not enclave. I take it geography was not a strong point.

Also there has been nothing analytical about any of your posts. You come across as a very fatuous Individual. Someone that needs attention, as life has passed you by.

It's amazing that people will reject an idea as attention seeking (or insanity, or virtue signalling, or whatever) just because it sits outside what they've contemplated.

I get where you're coming from, OP.

Still won’t work! You would need global cooperation on an unprecedented scale (it won’t happen) with all countries doing a full lockdown simultaneously for the same duration. All borders would need to be closed for that period. To achieve that, all countries would need a stockpile of food that has been distributed to their population (no perishable goods). Import/export activity would need to stop. Due to loss of income for many people during this period all countries would need to provide a grant to everyone, should probably mandate utility companies provide gratis for the lockdown period and so on and so on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sometimes laugh to myself when reading these serious forums and imagine the group of people doing this in person. Tits out, cock only on show, a bloke in the corner saying shut the borders whilst bending his wife over. Just a lighthearted moment of realisation thats all. Carry on

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By *ark Knight 2017Man
over a year ago

Ware

Are you deranged?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"I sometimes laugh to myself when reading these serious forums and imagine the group of people doing this in person. Tits out, cock only on show, a bloke in the corner saying shut the borders whilst bending his wife over. Just a lighthearted moment of realisation thats all. Carry on"

best pub quiz ever!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

best pub quiz ever!"

book on contagion. I'm doing fine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wrong wrong wrong! Lockdowns do not work never have never will, even if you have the vaccine you can still contract it, it doesn't stop you from catching it! Think before you speak! Or at least do some research!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

best pub quiz ever!"

Imagine haha

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

My ironyometer blew a fuse at "Or at least do some research!"

Clearly, you've done none.

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

Nobody stopping you living the life of a hermit OP. Let everyone else decide for themselves what would be best for them x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m sick of all this now , no more lock downs , we need to get on with living , I’ve had my jabs I still wear my mask at work and in public , why should I. Have to suffer even more to help the selfish idiots who refuse to have the jabs or wear masks , fuck them , if they catch it good , let them rot , wouldn’t even let them near a hospital, it’s the selfish few that has made this pandemic last as long as it has .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m sick of all this now , no more lock downs , we need to get on with living , I’ve had my jabs I still wear my mask at work and in public , why should I. Have to suffer even more to help the selfish idiots who refuse to have the jabs or wear masks , fuck them , if they catch it good , let them rot , wouldn’t even let them near a hospital, it’s the selfish few that has made this pandemic last as long as it has . "

Even though this post has a lot of (justified) anger behind it, I think it's a conversation that needs to be had. We cannot live like this forever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ranting and blaming others won't help resolve anything. Covid does not care what any individual thinks. The number of cases has trebled in last two weeks - another full lockdown now is the only way to get back on track.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nobody stopping you living the life of a hermit OP. Let everyone else decide for themselves what would be best for them x"

As long as people understand that individual choices may have individual consequences I completely agree.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Ranting and blaming others won't help resolve anything. Covid does not care what any individual thinks. The number of cases has trebled in last two weeks - another full lockdown now is the only way to get back on track. "

Just this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just this

Just no. What a load shit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just this

Just no. What a load shit. "

Any objective reason or are you just going to leave it at 'what a load of shit'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just this

Just no. What a load shit.

Any objective reason or are you just going to leave it at 'what a load of shit'. "

Cases of covid is what? A reason to end the world? The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just this

Just no. What a load shit.

Any objective reason or are you just going to leave it at 'what a load of shit'.

Cases of covid is what? A reason to end the world? The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many? "

All this is is a reason to be watching the data. Hospitalisations, ventilation and deaths have so far not increased dramatically. If they do a conversation needs to be had. Otherwise we risk running for the bunker every time we hear a loud bang. I know as I did the exact same thing a few days ago.

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Just this

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another lockdown don’t be so ridiculous. Lockdown make little or no difference

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect."
lockdowns have not been proved to save any life’s or even make much of a difference to infection rates

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect. lockdowns have not been proved to save any life’s or even make much of a difference to infection rates "

Just looking at the UK's figures, it is very obvious the effect that the lockdowns had on both infection rates and deaths. Each time we locked down, the infection rate dropped rapidly a week or so after the lockdown began... and began to rise again following the lockdown ending.

So yes there most certainly IS proof that lockdowns save lives AND reduce the infection rates. The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'd like to know the mechanism by which lockdowns fail to work.

The disease is spread predominantly by respiratory droplets in close contact.

Lockdowns mean you stay the eff away from people a lot more.

Therefore less spit and snot sprayed at each other, therefore less germs.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect.

lockdowns have not been proved to save any life’s or even make much of a difference to infection rates "

You're kidding, right?

The worldwide evidence that lockdowns work is irrefutable.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Communism is coming

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

So far covid has cost the uk £372bn, thats about £5600 each to come back thru taxes. We can’t afford another lockdown.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"So far covid has cost the uk £372bn, thats about £5600 each to come back thru taxes. We can’t afford another lockdown. "
You can afford if left wing money grows

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"So far covid has cost the uk £372bn, thats about £5600 each to come back thru taxes. We can’t afford another lockdown. You can afford if left wing money grows "

Where can you get some of this left wing money exactly?

Do the notes have a picture of lenin as opposed to the queen?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming "

Outstanding

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Communism is coming

Outstanding "
Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom "
A communist way total control

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control "

The oaf camt even control his hair.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control

The oaf camt even control his hair. "
maybe better than left wing crap

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By *sussexyMan
over a year ago

Lewes

"So far covid has cost the uk £372bn, thats about £5600 each to come back thru taxes. We can’t afford another lockdown. "

The lockdowns don't cost much - it is the delays before them that ramp up the cost. Locking down and closing the borders in early March last year was deemed too expensive. Might have cost us 6bn or so. So we went for the cheap option.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control

The oaf camt even control his hair. maybe better than left wing crap"

What like giving out a free vaccine?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control

The oaf camt even control his hair. maybe better than left wing crap

What like giving out a free vaccine?"

And putting the needs of the masses above the profits of a few "friends"

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control

The oaf camt even control his hair. maybe better than left wing crap

What like giving out a free vaccine?"

Free medicine? How communist

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom "

What freedoms have you lost?

I respectfully you take a look at how communist country's "operate" then compare that to the UK.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble (Not that you'd have bothered anyway) communist country's and the UK have sweet fanny Adams in common.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom A communist way total control

The oaf camt even control his hair. maybe better than left wing crap

What like giving out a free vaccine?

Free medicine? How communist

Tbf its quite amusing to see some one bang on about how much They hate socialism, and watch their reaction when you point out that a free vaccination programme is about as left wing as you can get.

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By *antingmore72Woman
over a year ago

Hastings

Oh good lord op. So how would you support business with a total lockdown now?! What about education? The health sector?! Clearly you don't have to work, have children in school or have anyone working in hospitals?! Dear oh dear! Lol

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom

What freedoms have you lost?

I respectfully you take a look at how communist country's "operate" then compare that to the UK.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble (Not that you'd have bothered anyway) communist country's and the UK have sweet fanny Adams in common.

Often communist countries are mired in corruption and the leaders do want they want.

So yep no comparison..

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *eetingupMan
over a year ago

london

Iam going in June not letting the government tell me when and were to spend my money they get enough taxes form me

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By *sussexyMan
over a year ago

Lewes

"The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal"

To you and me, maybe... to the libertarian who wants his holiday on the Costa....nah, sorry. They need the name of an individual and absolute proof that had if not been for lockdown the virus would have wafted their way and they would have met their maker. Those numbers are circumstantial. Slippery little buggers.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal

The evidence doesn't care

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

You should just stay indoors anyway generally.

And why is there never a virus to make us social distance from social media.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh good lord op. So how would you support business with a total lockdown now?! What about education? The health sector?! Clearly you don't have to work, have children in school or have anyone working in hospitals?! Dear oh dear! Lol"

This is the ultimate false dichotomy. You need a healthy population to have a healthy economy. OECD predicts the UK will exit Covid far worse than any other similar sized economy because we have not controlled Covid- and some countries are shedding out much more money than the UK

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom

What freedoms have you lost?

I respectfully you take a look at how communist country's "operate" then compare that to the UK.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble (Not that you'd have bothered anyway) communist country's and the UK have sweet fanny Adams in common.

Often communist countries are mired in corruption and the leaders do want they want.

So yep no comparison.."

Yup, I saw a few councillors arrested for fraud a few months back.

Disgraceful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect. lockdowns have not been proved to save any life’s or even make much of a difference to infection rates "

Thank you!!!

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

Ahhhh, the old mental health excuse. "

Are you suggesting mental health isn't an issue with lockdowns!

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Watching, as the goverment fall flat on their face with coming lifting of restrictions, and changing greens to amber's without notice knowing the potential of the new variants....erm following the science?

Wait for the disclaimer speil, at the forthcoming announcements.

Passing the can and owness onto the public.

Personally I'm not going out or on holiday even in this country, I'll continue to hibernate.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Communism is coming

Outstanding Hope not but it’s heading that way , no freedom

What freedoms have you lost?

I respectfully you take a look at how communist country's "operate" then compare that to the UK.

Actually, I'll save you the trouble (Not that you'd have bothered anyway) communist country's and the UK have sweet fanny Adams in common.

Often communist countries are mired in corruption and the leaders do want they want.

So yep no comparison..

Yup, I saw a few councillors arrested for fraud a few months back.

Disgraceful.

Yep..shame The rules dont seem to apply to everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are just as unhealthy as before. Prove me wrong because I don't see any difference.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal

How does "stopping people spread germs" possibly fail to prevent the spread of disease? Please?

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

Have done my research. Lots of research. So much research.

You're incorrect. lockdowns have not been proved to save any life’s or even make much of a difference to infection rates

So yes there most certainly IS proof that lockdowns save lives AND reduce the infection rates. The evidence is irrefutable.

Cal"
Your wrong the first lockdown figures began to drop before we went into lockdown and a week into lockdown is too early for the lockdown to have had a chance to make a difference .

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"I'd like to know the mechanism by which lockdowns fail to work.

The disease is spread predominantly by respiratory droplets in close contact.

Lockdowns mean you stay the eff away from people a lot more.

Therefore less spit and snot sprayed at each other, therefore less germs."
lockdowns don’t work look at country’s which have had no or little restrictions to country’s with hard lockdown same as states in America which act independently deaths are infection rates are the same

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I'd like to know the mechanism by which lockdowns fail to work.

The disease is spread predominantly by respiratory droplets in close contact.

Lockdowns mean you stay the eff away from people a lot more.

Therefore less spit and snot sprayed at each other, therefore less germs. lockdowns don’t work look at country’s which have had no or little restrictions to country’s with hard lockdown same as states in America which act independently deaths are infection rates are the same "

Please explain the biological mechanism by which lockdowns fail to prevent the spread of germs.

I'm asking for evidence, not the repetition of rhetoric.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Let us be honest, it does not matter what anyone on Fab thinks it does not matter what the people of this country think, it does not matter what the science says, all that matters is what fucking BJ and his cronies think.

I was a supporter of lockdown when hundreds (if not thousands) of people were dying and being admitted to hospital seriously ill, but the death rate is low, and whilst the infection rate is rising again deaths and serious cases are not.

However if BJ and his pals think there is more money to be made from keeping us as we are, or tightening lockdown again HE WILL and he wont give a fuck what anyone else thinks or says !

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By *ilancsguyMan
over a year ago

Burnley

Another factor is how does the country continue to keep funding lockdowns?

As the Government has previously said - there isn't a magic money tree.

Also - a far greater time bomb is starting to go off... mental health caused by the last 15 months.

Irrespective of whether we like it or not there has to come a point where we have to try and live with Covid around as there will ALWAYS be new variants.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Let us be honest, it does not matter what anyone on Fab thinks it does not matter what the people of this country think, it does not matter what the science says, all that matters is what fucking BJ and his cronies think.

However if BJ and his pals think there is more money to be made from keeping us as we are, or tightening lockdown again HE WILL and he wont give a fuck what anyone else thinks or says !

To me the science matters, but what will determine what happens is a) what the politicians decide, b) if it's communicated effectively, and c) if the country comply.

I will follow my understanding of the science, because it's not about me. Hopefully I'll be safe soon - less than three weeks until I have a full immune response. I'll do what I can for others.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I think the ship has sailed for full lockdown, but the idea that we just let it rip, after all we've done, after all we don't yet know... Risking all that sacrifice...

It just beggars belief.

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By *orny andy yorkMan
over a year ago

york

"I'd like to know the mechanism by which lockdowns fail to work.

The disease is spread predominantly by respiratory droplets in close contact.

Lockdowns mean you stay the eff away from people a lot more.

Please explain the biological mechanism by which lockdowns fail to prevent the spread of germs.

I'm asking for evidence, not the repetition of rhetoric."
in theory they should work but they you only have to compare country’s and us states but what ever proof you get you will not believe it because your obsessed with pushing the government narrative about this virus which to the vast majority of people people is not deadly and for the vast majorty they won’t even need any medical intervention. The fact are out there in plain site . I’ve worked right through this as have most people I know and we’ve carried in as normal seeing elderly relatives etc with no problem . Try listening to some of the experts the MSM won’t have on .

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