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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse " Oh typo, piss to puss | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse " Does she have a separate “mask exempt” lanyard? | |||
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"I really have huge issues with people having to wear identifying marks on the being in order to tell people things about them. L has the green lanyard, yes hates wearing it because of it. I have see a woman wear an exempt lanyard too. It is like watching a leparsy viticn with a cow bell round their neck. I'm now watching people mask less everywhere now...i mean everywhere my job takes me round the country into communities. The problem is we police through consent. Because of this virus we now have social media vigilantes trying to put their pressure of bullying and bile on the public. What boils my piss the must. Are people who insist that we follow the rules... But bend them themselves but then judge others. An example is face masks. People who do not frequently change their mask, not daily, but throughout the day. People who wear them over their chin etc etc. Then insist that people get marked to show them exempt. When in the state of policing by consent it is none of their business. That's my opinion. " 
I see way too many people who are more than happy to bully and slate others for not wearing a face covering while their own "mask" is filthier than my socks.
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard " A separate lanyard for what? I doubt they are "advertising" they have a disability/ exemption. They are probably wearing it so people don't think they are an irate covid denier. | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means..." If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. | |||
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"I really have huge issues with people having to wear identifying marks on the being in order to tell people things about them. L has the green lanyard, yes hates wearing it because of it. I have see a woman wear an exempt lanyard too. It is like watching a leparsy viticn with a cow bell round their neck. I'm now watching people mask less everywhere now...i mean everywhere my job takes me round the country into communities. The problem is we police through consent. Because of this virus we now have social media vigilantes trying to put their pressure of bullying and bile on the public. What boils my piss the must. Are people who insist that we follow the rules... But bend them themselves but then judge others. An example is face masks. People who do not frequently change their mask, not daily, but throughout the day. People who wear them over their chin etc etc. Then insist that people get marked to show them exempt. When in the state of policing by consent it is none of their business. That's my opinion.
I see way too many people who are more than happy to bully and slate others for not wearing a face covering while their own "mask" is filthier than my socks.
All these wannabe covid marshals on their high horse of morality for following rules for greater society often attack ones who may need the most help "I've witnessed loads of these do gooders who cannot follow the rules themselves. I'm sick of it. | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse " OK can I just point out the you are not exempt if you can wear a mask because there isn't actually a list of conditions that make someone exempt. It is simply if you physically cannot wear, put on take or off a face covering or doing so causes severe distress. If you can wear one without this happening then you should. | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. " I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent. | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard " At the moment as some one has already highlighted we police by consent. In the future masks, rules, vaccinations exemptions etc will a be documented and recorded. Likely we will be able to produce some sort of evidence using a phone or something similar if asked or challenged. That way there would be no arguments.. If you get challenged you will be able to prove it. So people genuinely exempt from something or who need to show medical proof of anything can feel a bit less of a pariah. Also those who are just being awkward/ unwilling to join in wouldn't be able to keep doing that Maybe a few issues with learning to use /reliability of software etc | |||
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"I really have huge issues with people having to wear identifying marks on the being in order to tell people things about them. L has the green lanyard, yes hates wearing it because of it. I have see a woman wear an exempt lanyard too. It is like watching a leparsy viticn with a cow bell round their neck. I'm now watching people mask less everywhere now...i mean everywhere my job takes me round the country into communities. The problem is we police through consent. Because of this virus we now have social media vigilantes trying to put their pressure of bullying and bile on the public. What boils my piss the must. Are people who insist that we follow the rules... But bend them themselves but then judge others. An example is face masks. People who do not frequently change their mask, not daily, but throughout the day. People who wear them over their chin etc etc. Then insist that people get marked to show them exempt. When in the state of policing by consent it is none of their business. That's my opinion. " what boils my piss is that we have so many “me , myself and i” folk that the lanyards are required in the first place ... if everyone did their part, to the extent that they were able and we had more community minded attitudes , people wouldn’t need to wear a lanyard to highlight anything to anyone , it would just be known by others that they were unable to wear a mask so were distancing instead its the folk abusing the system that have caused the problems for everyone | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse Does she have a separate “mask exempt” lanyard? " Nope. She wears a mask. She doesn't have to. But she does. She wears her lanyard for the reason it's intended, to alert shop workers that although she looks normal, she may need help. It's why it annoys me that others use it (easy to buy online) and may not actually be exempt. It devalues its importance to ppl like my kid. | |||
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"I have struggled of late to wear a mask. I am exempt but I have really tried to power through but now as I’m going through a particularly challenging phase it’s getting bad. I may break out a lanyard but I’m worried that attitudes toward me and people questioning why will cause me problems as I may react with customary rudeness that I can’t help. " Same. I have a condition which falls under exemption, I'm struggling more than I have been, but I don't want to be associated with the wingnuts. My sunflower lanyard does have a label saying mask exempt. I don't wear it. | |||
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"Starting to feel the urge to begin a thread simply about being pissed off! Doesn’t need to be about anything specific, just being generally pissed off!!!! Everyone seems to be?" I'm in!!   | |||
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"I have struggled of late to wear a mask. I am exempt but I have really tried to power through but now as I’m going through a particularly challenging phase it’s getting bad. I may break out a lanyard but I’m worried that attitudes toward me and people questioning why will cause me problems as I may react with customary rudeness that I can’t help. " You could wear the lanyard but keep a mask in your pocket as back up. Then if you do get abuse and feel the need to be 'invisible' again (by wearing a mask) then you can. If you are rude would you explain why afterwards? I understand the rudeness may be involuntary in a stressful situation. You seem like a nice bloke so I also understand that being rude would make you feel bad. So if they asked nicely you may feel the need to explain or apologise. But if they are being an arsehole ... just be rude back. 
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"I have struggled of late to wear a mask. I am exempt but I have really tried to power through but now as I’m going through a particularly challenging phase it’s getting bad. I may break out a lanyard but I’m worried that attitudes toward me and people questioning why will cause me problems as I may react with customary rudeness that I can’t help. You could wear the lanyard but keep a mask in your pocket as back up. Then if you do get abuse and feel the need to be 'invisible' again (by wearing a mask) then you can. If you are rude would you explain why afterwards? I understand the rudeness may be involuntary in a stressful situation. You seem like a nice bloke so I also understand that being rude would make you feel bad. So if they asked nicely you may feel the need to explain or apologise. But if they are being an arsehole ... just be rude back.
Hope that makes sense."Thanks yes. I don’t mean to be rude I’m just quite blunt without realising as you say in situations that are a bit stressful. I’m doing my best I keep a lanyard in reserve but at the moment if I get over stimulated in a shop I leave rather than use the lanyard. | |||
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"I have struggled of late to wear a mask. I am exempt but I have really tried to power through but now as I’m going through a particularly challenging phase it’s getting bad. I may break out a lanyard but I’m worried that attitudes toward me and people questioning why will cause me problems as I may react with customary rudeness that I can’t help. You could wear the lanyard but keep a mask in your pocket as back up. Then if you do get abuse and feel the need to be 'invisible' again (by wearing a mask) then you can. If you are rude would you explain why afterwards? I understand the rudeness may be involuntary in a stressful situation. You seem like a nice bloke so I also understand that being rude would make you feel bad. So if they asked nicely you may feel the need to explain or apologise. But if they are being an arsehole ... just be rude back.
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I don’t mean to be rude I’m just quite blunt without realising as you say in situations that are a bit stressful. I’m doing my best I keep a lanyard in reserve but at the moment if I get over stimulated in a shop I leave rather than use the lanyard.
"I think leaving is a good plan. You can always go back later. Probably less stressful than messing about with masks and lanyards. I think having an escape plan helps in any stressful situation.  | |||
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"I think its despicable that people have to identify themselves as exempt in the first place. We live in a society where we have to justify ourselves to satiate someone else's curiosity so as not to feel awkward, despite the global pleas for tolerance and compassion. The world is going backwards, frst it was yellow stars on armbands, now its sunflower lanyards. " Except its the state that telling people to this. The government make it very clear you don't have to show or prove you are exempt, its society that is dictating it. | |||
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"Boils my Piss people expecting other people to wear an identifying mark of some sort...... how about all those who been jabbed wear a bright red star on their heads so I know who to keep away from " I wouldn't speak too soon if I was you. Though the veiled referencing people keep using linked to the Nazis and the Jews is getting a bit tedious. This time next year there will be a database of the people in the UK who have been vaccinated /not vaccinated.. That information and how its used will have an impact on everyone's lives going forward in so many different ways .. At the very least there's going to be a lot new rules and restrictions coming in about how non vaccinated people can live, work and mix with those who have been. That will be until /if we get herd immunity . Those who chose to ignore science and government advice are going to need to be ready for some difficult problems in one way or another. | |||
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"I think its despicable that people have to identify themselves as exempt in the first place. We live in a society where we have to justify ourselves to satiate someone else's curiosity so as not to feel awkward, despite the global pleas for tolerance and compassion. The world is going backwards, frst it was yellow stars on armbands, now its sunflower lanyards. " I leave my lanyard at home. I'm so oppressed. Hope this helps. | |||
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"Boils my Piss people expecting other people to wear an identifying mark of some sort...... how about all those who been jabbed wear a bright red star on their heads so I know who to keep away from I wouldn't speak too soon if I was you. Though the veiled referencing people keep using linked to the Nazis and the Jews is getting a bit tedious. This time next year there will be a database of the people in the UK who have been vaccinated /not vaccinated.. That information and how its used will have an impact on everyone's lives going forward in so many different ways .. At the very least there's going to be a lot new rules and restrictions coming in about how non vaccinated people can live, work and mix with those who have been. That will be until /if we get herd immunity . Those who chose to ignore science and government advice are going to need to be ready for some difficult problems in one way or another. " There's already a database. It's called medical records. | |||
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"Boils my Piss people expecting other people to wear an identifying mark of some sort...... how about all those who been jabbed wear a bright red star on their heads so I know who to keep away from I wouldn't speak too soon if I was you. Though the veiled referencing people keep using linked to the Nazis and the Jews is getting a bit tedious. This time next year there will be a database of the people in the UK who have been vaccinated /not vaccinated.. That information and how its used will have an impact on everyone's lives going forward in so many different ways .. At the very least there's going to be a lot new rules and restrictions coming in about how non vaccinated people can live, work and mix with those who have been. That will be until /if we get herd immunity . Those who chose to ignore science and government advice are going to need to be ready for some difficult problems in one way or another. " Hasn't it already been announced that we have heard immunity in England. | |||
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"it absolutely cracks me up when people compare a lanyard which was designed to be a silent aid and make peoples life easier to an identifier put in place by hitler for persecution " 99% of Holocaust comparisons make me laugh. Really? This is really in any way comparable? Wtf  | |||
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"I think its despicable that people have to identify themselves as exempt in the first place. We live in a society where we have to justify ourselves to satiate someone else's curiosity so as not to feel awkward, despite the global pleas for tolerance and compassion. The world is going backwards, frst it was yellow stars on armbands, now its sunflower lanyards. Except its the state that telling people to this. The government make it very clear you don't have to show or prove you are exempt, its society that is dictating it. " *not the state* | |||
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"You can buy the lanyards for a few pound regardless of disability or exception, it's whether or not your are that type of person and feel you are above wearing a mask for no apparent reason other than you don't want to and feel you have beat the system with a cheap lanyard. " Yeah. It's not the lanyards that are the problem, it's the dickheads piggybacking on people with genuine conditions and those who don't understand disability. | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent." Everything, it has everything to do with it. The public are trying to police each other... But not with consent. The bullying disrespectful comments towards each other is horrendous and needs to stop. We are turning on each other. We have a situation where the public are turning on people who choose not to be vaccinated or wear a mask... Then this same public set off on foreign holidays only to bring back the virus as the vaccine we were promised to get us back to normal only masks symptoms and does not stop us carrying it, or passing it on.. So these do gooders bring in a virus yet bang on at the rest of the population. We need to get back to policing with consent, that's all of us. | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent. Everything, it has everything to do with it. The public are trying to police each other... But not with consent. The bullying disrespectful comments towards each other is horrendous and needs to stop. We are turning on each other. We have a situation where the public are turning on people who choose not to be vaccinated or wear a mask... Then this same public set off on foreign holidays only to bring back the virus as the vaccine we were promised to get us back to normal only masks symptoms and does not stop us carrying it, or passing it on.. So these do gooders bring in a virus yet bang on at the rest of the population. We need to get back to policing with consent, that's all of us. " ... The public are not policing. The police are policing. Are people not allowed political opinions now? Opinions on what other people are doing? Are we so pitiful and weak as a society that everyone can do what they want to do and no one is allowed to say anything? We're all special snowflakes? I certainly don't consent to that. The police police by consent. The public have opinions, and free speech, and political franchise | |||
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"Focus on yourself and your own actions and especially don't try to make things more difficult for disabled people or those exempt. It's extremely unusual here to see anyone without a mask and people who I know who are exempt wear them. Many of the reasons for exemption are invisible and include atrocious things that have been done to them. Stop the victim blaming and let businesses etc manage their own systems. If you know someone who is possibly abusing the system, have considerate dialogue with them but be cautious, as they may not be comfortable talking about abuse that they have suffered. Confrontational approaches may harm people. " Perfectly put. | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard A separate lanyard for what? I doubt they are "advertising" they have a disability/ exemption. They are probably wearing it so people don't think they are an irate covid denier. " Perhaps wrong choice of words.. Perhaps I should of said " wearing a lanyard to let others know | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard A separate lanyard for what? I doubt they are "advertising" they have a disability/ exemption. They are probably wearing it so people don't think they are an irate covid denier. " Inthink what I am trying to say os that for those who wearing a sunflower lanyard dog reason such like disabilities as they are used for Then there's those who are taking advantage of these to simply not wear a mask Which in turn discredits the lanyard all together my opiin | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard A separate lanyard for what? I doubt they are "advertising" they have a disability/ exemption. They are probably wearing it so people don't think they are an irate covid denier. Inthink what I am trying to say os that for those who wearing a sunflower lanyard dog reason such like disabilities as they are used for Then there's those who are taking advantage of these to simply not wear a mask Which in turn discredits the lanyard all together my opiin " And that's why it annoys me too. When the lanyard first came out, you applied to a supermarket for it and stated your disability. Now they are available online to buy | |||
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"You can buy the lanyards for a few pound regardless of disability or exception, it's whether or not your are that type of person and feel you are above wearing a mask for no apparent reason other than you don't want to and feel you have beat the system with a cheap lanyard. " Yes exactly and therefore devaluing the lanyard of its use. | |||
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"It was strange wearing a mask at first, now it just seems like second nature. I go into a shop and I am half way home and realise I still have it on in the car. Someone I know didn't like them at all so uses a face shield instead To the OP, I saw someone with one of them on the other day as it happens, now obviously I didn't know the reason why she has it and wouldn't dream of asking, but she was a right pita as she wasn't socially distancing either, not sure if she thought she was exempt from that too "Some of reasons someone might be exempt from wearing a face covering might also be a reason they struggle to understand social distancing. Obviously I have no idea why the woman wasn't wearing a covering or keeping her distance but the two could well be connected. | |||
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"It was strange wearing a mask at first, now it just seems like second nature. I go into a shop and I am half way home and realise I still have it on in the car. Someone I know didn't like them at all so uses a face shield instead To the OP, I saw someone with one of them on the other day as it happens, now obviously I didn't know the reason why she has it and wouldn't dream of asking, but she was a right pita as she wasn't socially distancing either, not sure if she thought she was exempt from that too
Some of reasons someone might be exempt from wearing a face covering might also be a reason they struggle to understand social distancing.
Obviously I have no idea why the woman wasn't wearing a covering or keeping her distance but the two could well be connected. "Sometimes it feels like any reason to defend people who won't do as asked. She did stand to one side when asked to by another person so and said sorry and seemed to understood why | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a separate lanyard " You had me at the very first line. By line 2 I was becoming misty eyed. By line 4, I realised that Jim / Bob won't be fixing this any time soon. Hope that helps | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system..." People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc." Lawrence fox? | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc." You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. Lawrence fox?" Yup He also showed his dinner party early this year when everything was shut, because it's natural and normal and our rights shouldn't be taken away. What's not natural and normal is someone being paid to pretend to be someone else and be transmitted into houses via electricity, nor the ability to communicate via this "internet" thing. Natural is 30% death from smallpox and/or dying in childbirth or from malnutrition. Which is why we have society. To stand together and stop bad things from happening  | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. Lawrence fox? Yup He also showed his dinner party early this year when everything was shut, because it's natural and normal and our rights shouldn't be taken away. What's not natural and normal is someone being paid to pretend to be someone else and be transmitted into houses via electricity, nor the ability to communicate via this "internet" thing. Natural is 30% death from smallpox and/or dying in childbirth or from malnutrition. Which is why we have society. To stand together and stop bad things from happening " | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? " Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. Lawrence fox? Yup He also showed his dinner party early this year when everything was shut, because it's natural and normal and our rights shouldn't be taken away. What's not natural and normal is someone being paid to pretend to be someone else and be transmitted into houses via electricity, nor the ability to communicate via this "internet" thing. Natural is 30% death from smallpox and/or dying in childbirth or from malnutrition. Which is why we have society. To stand together and stop bad things from happening "He does sound like an uber cunt Wasnt he whinging about being cancelled a while ago. | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. Lawrence fox? Yup He also showed his dinner party early this year when everything was shut, because it's natural and normal and our rights shouldn't be taken away. What's not natural and normal is someone being paid to pretend to be someone else and be transmitted into houses via electricity, nor the ability to communicate via this "internet" thing. Natural is 30% death from smallpox and/or dying in childbirth or from malnutrition. Which is why we have society. To stand together and stop bad things from happening
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them." Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations " In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point? | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point?" Do you know if he suffers from anxiety? | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point? Do you know if he suffers from anxiety?" Nope. I do know that he's a monumental bellend who's built a platform on "protecting other people infringes on my rights". Hence I thought it was an easy example of the kind of person who abuses the system. He might be a massive bellend whose political platform is based on being a parasite on society - with anxiety. I neither know nor care. As someone with anxiety, it doesn't excuse the bellend-ness or parasitism. | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point? Do you know if he suffers from anxiety? Nope. I do know that he's a monumental bellend who's built a platform on "protecting other people infringes on my rights". Hence I thought it was an easy example of the kind of person who abuses the system. He might be a massive bellend whose political platform is based on being a parasite on society - with anxiety. I neither know nor care. As someone with anxiety, it doesn't excuse the bellend-ness or parasitism." Maybe there should be a lanyard to identify the condition of bellend-ness. #bellendscanbeanxious | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point? Do you know if he suffers from anxiety? Nope. I do know that he's a monumental bellend who's built a platform on "protecting other people infringes on my rights". Hence I thought it was an easy example of the kind of person who abuses the system. He might be a massive bellend whose political platform is based on being a parasite on society - with anxiety. I neither know nor care. As someone with anxiety, it doesn't excuse the bellend-ness or parasitism. Maybe there should be a lanyard to identify the condition of bellend-ness. #bellendscanbeanxious" Maybe you should take the example as one where people abuse accommodations because they're entitled morons. | |||
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"Who are the entitled people? Am I right I’m thinking it’s a self certifying system... People like that actor who's been so vocal about not following restrictions. He had a word with himself and diagnosed himself with anxiety, etc. You’re not suggesting anxious people should not be allowed to download the certificate and wear a lanyard, are you? Nope. I'm saying that entitled knobs shouldn't hijack accomodations for people who need them. Being an entitled knob doesn’t mean he doesn’t suffer from anxiety... What are the rules on who decides who can use the accommodations In most instances I'd leave well alone and say "I don't know their story". This particular specimen has made a spectacle of himself over a long time and how the rules suck and he's above them. Was there a dinner party exemption early this year? Or is it more evidence that he only cares about himself and his political point? Do you know if he suffers from anxiety? Nope. I do know that he's a monumental bellend who's built a platform on "protecting other people infringes on my rights". Hence I thought it was an easy example of the kind of person who abuses the system. He might be a massive bellend whose political platform is based on being a parasite on society - with anxiety. I neither know nor care. As someone with anxiety, it doesn't excuse the bellend-ness or parasitism. Maybe there should be a lanyard to identify the condition of bellend-ness. #bellendscanbeanxious Maybe you should take the example as one where people abuse accommodations because they're entitled morons." And who decides when someone is abusing the accommodations. Morons may be morons but that doesn’t preclude them from having a condition that allows them not to wear a mask. I wonder how many morons do wear masks . | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. " What is it about the massive drop in people in ICU in hospitals and the reduction in deaths which has coincided with the vaccination roll out do you not understand..? | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. " Because many of the population havent been jabbed? | |||
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"What boils my piss and sousvides my puss is that unless you have a disability that involves having no head, there is an option that can suit all.. If you don't like a face mask, you can wear a face visor which is no worse than wearing a pair of glasses.. And if you are Niki Lauder, there is the visors with a headband so no ears is not a problem. There are other options, a clear cover over your mouth and nose which are popular in Europe.. Why anyone should complain about having to put something over their face to reduce the risk of infecting others or catching the virus themselves is totally beyond me.. Its plain, simple common sense to do so.. it doesn't harm you in any way to do so.. And a final note for all those who refuse to wear a mask without valid reson, if you were not so pig ignorant we may have been out of this cluster a long fucking time before we actually will be!" What about the people who don't wash their hands? Go to South East Asia, even before all of the Covid, very few people touch handrails and door handles.  | |||
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"What boils my piss and sousvides my puss is that unless you have a disability that involves having no head, there is an option that can suit all.. If you don't like a face mask, you can wear a face visor which is no worse than wearing a pair of glasses.. And if you are Niki Lauder, there is the visors with a headband so no ears is not a problem. There are other options, a clear cover over your mouth and nose which are popular in Europe.. Why anyone should complain about having to put something over their face to reduce the risk of infecting others or catching the virus themselves is totally beyond me.. Its plain, simple common sense to do so.. it doesn't harm you in any way to do so.. And a final note for all those who refuse to wear a mask without valid reson, if you were not so pig ignorant we may have been out of this cluster a long fucking time before we actually will be! What about the people who don't wash their hands? Go to South East Asia, even before all of the Covid, very few people touch handrails and door handles. "Or carry durian fruit on public transport. In Asia, they are far more aware of disease transmission and understand the benefits of wearing face masks in public to prevent transmission.. Its also generally accepted for people to wear face masks and seen as a morally good thing to do.. In the west, dor some reason a vocal minority feel that it is an infringement on their rights and that the government is eroding their liberties.. They seem to fail to understand that their liberty could be the cause of someone losing their liberties or life. It is a selfish attitude that seems to permeate the west, being the centre of our own universe and not giving a toss about others.. | |||
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"What boils my piss and sousvides my puss is that unless you have a disability that involves having no head, there is an option that can suit all.. If you don't like a face mask, you can wear a face visor which is no worse than wearing a pair of glasses.. And if you are Niki Lauder, there is the visors with a headband so no ears is not a problem. There are other options, a clear cover over your mouth and nose which are popular in Europe.. Why anyone should complain about having to put something over their face to reduce the risk of infecting others or catching the virus themselves is totally beyond me.. Its plain, simple common sense to do so.. it doesn't harm you in any way to do so.. And a final note for all those who refuse to wear a mask without valid reson, if you were not so pig ignorant we may have been out of this cluster a long fucking time before we actually will be!" face guards are not considered the same as a face covering. | |||
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"What boils my piss and sousvides my puss is that unless you have a disability that involves having no head, there is an option that can suit all.. If you don't like a face mask, you can wear a face visor which is no worse than wearing a pair of glasses.. And if you are Niki Lauder, there is the visors with a headband so no ears is not a problem. There are other options, a clear cover over your mouth and nose which are popular in Europe.. Why anyone should complain about having to put something over their face to reduce the risk of infecting others or catching the virus themselves is totally beyond me.. Its plain, simple common sense to do so.. it doesn't harm you in any way to do so.. And a final note for all those who refuse to wear a mask without valid reson, if you were not so pig ignorant we may have been out of this cluster a long fucking time before we actually will be! What about the people who don't wash their hands? Go to South East Asia, even before all of the Covid, very few people touch handrails and door handles.
Or carry durian fruit on public transport.
In Asia, they are far more aware of disease transmission and understand the benefits of wearing face masks in public to prevent transmission..
Its also generally accepted for people to wear face masks and seen as a morally good thing to do..
In the west, dor some reason a vocal minority feel that it is an infringement on their rights and that the government is eroding their liberties..
They seem to fail to understand that their liberty could be the cause of someone losing their liberties or life.
It is a selfish attitude that seems to permeate the west, being the centre of our own universe and not giving a toss about others..
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"What boils my piss and sousvides my puss is that unless you have a disability that involves having no head, there is an option that can suit all.. If you don't like a face mask, you can wear a face visor which is no worse than wearing a pair of glasses.. And if you are Niki Lauder, there is the visors with a headband so no ears is not a problem. There are other options, a clear cover over your mouth and nose which are popular in Europe.. Why anyone should complain about having to put something over their face to reduce the risk of infecting others or catching the virus themselves is totally beyond me.. Its plain, simple common sense to do so.. it doesn't harm you in any way to do so.. And a final note for all those who refuse to wear a mask without valid reson, if you were not so pig ignorant we may have been out of this cluster a long fucking time before we actually will be! What about the people who don't wash their hands? Go to South East Asia, even before all of the Covid, very few people touch handrails and door handles.
Or carry durian fruit on public transport.
In Asia, they are far more aware of disease transmission and understand the benefits of wearing face masks in public to prevent transmission..
Its also generally accepted for people to wear face masks and seen as a morally good thing to do..
In the west, dor some reason a vocal minority feel that it is an infringement on their rights and that the government is eroding their liberties..
They seem to fail to understand that their liberty could be the cause of someone losing their liberties or life.
It is a selfish attitude that seems to permeate the west, being the centre of our own universe and not giving a toss about others..
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. What is it about the massive drop in people in ICU in hospitals and the reduction in deaths which has coincided with the vaccination roll out do you not understand..?" or is that a direct impact of months of vulnerable people being locked up. Just a question. There is no scientific data to really 100% back up that lockdowns work ( could just have prolonged the overall outcome ) or that vaccines work ( we introduced them during lockdown and as we came out of flu season so could just be a natural decrease ). If vaccines worked in the way the are supposed to by reducing transmission and death / serious illness / hospitalisation in the vulnerable sector then there would now lockdown or restrictions now. And yet we are discussing continued and lengthens restrictions as well as further / localised lockdowns. That to me suggests people in power do not trust the vaccines. | |||
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"As someone who suffers both asthma and COPD I don't understand the majority of "exempts". Yes they are a pain wearing them. But they are necessary. I wear mine for work and shopping and that can be for 10hrs.I change them often as use disposable masks. So this I can't wear as I can't breathe using them is nonsense. Like anything just takes time to get used to them. Yes I am aware that there are genuine people out there who can't wear them. But the others who get exemption card because they just can't be assed. Sorry to them No Masky No entry Sorry for the rant" so I will just say again if wearing masks is to protect others then there surely should be 0 exceptions. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. " a visor is not classed as a face covering and offers no protection to the wearer or others around them it makes me laugh how many people have missed this | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. What is it about the massive drop in people in ICU in hospitals and the reduction in deaths which has coincided with the vaccination roll out do you not understand..?" so you agree with me thanks | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. " What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. Because many of the population havent been jabbed?" but the vulnerable have that's the point, when did they move the goal posts saying everyone? | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. Because many of the population havent been jabbed?but the vulnerable have that's the point, when did they move the goal posts saying everyone?" As the virus mutations become apparent and the impact on not just the elderly and those in society with underlying health issues then it's good clinical practise to adjust to try and protect all ages etc.. The ages in ICU now are not solely the elderly etc, the new varients are affecting the health and causing deaths in much lower age groups.. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. " Yup, and sadly our society is being pushed into being less tolerant and able to accept that everyone is different. | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. Because many of the population havent been jabbed?but the vulnerable have that's the point, when did they move the goal posts saying everyone?" But the vulnerable can still catch covid from someone who hasn't been jabbed. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. " For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place " Why the hell wouldn’t people with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety be allowed out to shop with their family members ? | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place Why the hell wouldn’t people with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety be allowed out to shop with their family members ?" Because according to some and its come up many times on these types of discussions, people that fit into these categories should not be out in public and apparently aren't allowed to be part of society even though there is no reason when reasonable adjustments can't be made as is actually required by law are in place. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place " Also who are "all these people" because the vast majority do wear a face covering. We have travelled on the tube and train today and could count the number of people not wearing a face covering on my fingers. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place Why the hell wouldn’t people with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety be allowed out to shop with their family members ? Because according to some and its come up many times on these types of discussions, people that fit into these categories should not be out in public and apparently aren't allowed to be part of society even though there is no reason when reasonable adjustments can't be made as is actually required by law are in place. " This.. It can have no other basis other than gross ignorance and a pretty low levels of empathy and decency.. | |||
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" Also who are "all these people" because the vast majority do wear a face covering. We have travelled on the tube and train today and could count the number of people not wearing a face covering on my fingers. " i think it depends where you are lorna , i had to take the train for the first time this year today ... last summer everyone had masks on - today i went maybe 5 stops and not one single person i saw was wearing a mask , we don’t have conductors checking tickets at the moment so they know there is nobody of “authority” to challenge them also popped into greggs before i got on the train and there was 4 customers , me and one other with a mask, 2 others without i think sadly some people are mistaking an easing of restrictions for the whole pandemic being over and getting very lax in measures that would control what is left of it ... ironically this in is glasgow, where our cases are too high to go down a tier like everyone else | |||
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"If some of you people would read my earlier quote, I did say I have no issues with people that really do have under laying issues not wearing masks, but I have issues with people that by wearing a lanyard that it’s ok to carry on with there life as nothing has happened, and please don’t tell me I don’t understand, as I know more about this then most people, " I read your quote. You also said ‘ and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place ‘ Which clearly states you don’t think people with autism, learning difficulties, people suffering severe trauma or severe anxiety should be out??! They are there because they have just as much bloody entitlement to be anywhere they want to be as do you. Vile attitude and hard to believe you have more understanding on this then anyone else when you are throwing around comments ‘why are they there in the first place’. | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. For someone who worked in the care sector who knows fall well of the use of mask wearing, but please don’t tell me that all those people you see in shops are people with unseen disabilities, because I’ve worked for many years in that sector as well, there are so many people not taking it seriously enough, and if you say a lot people have these under lying issues, then why are there in the first place Also who are "all these people" because the vast majority do wear a face covering. We have travelled on the tube and train today and could count the number of people not wearing a face covering on my fingers. " It's very rare you see someone without one now. | |||
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"If some of you people would read my earlier quote, I did say I have no issues with people that really do have under laying issues not wearing masks, but I have issues with people that by wearing a lanyard that it’s ok to carry on with there life as nothing has happened, and please don’t tell me I don’t understand, as I know more about this then most people, " And do you distinguish who is "genuine"? | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent. Everything, it has everything to do with it. The public are trying to police each other... But not with consent. The bullying disrespectful comments towards each other is horrendous and needs to stop. We are turning on each other. We have a situation where the public are turning on people who choose not to be vaccinated or wear a mask... Then this same public set off on foreign holidays only to bring back the virus as the vaccine we were promised to get us back to normal only masks symptoms and does not stop us carrying it, or passing it on.. So these do gooders bring in a virus yet bang on at the rest of the population. We need to get back to policing with consent, that's all of us. ... The public are not policing. The police are policing. Are people not allowed political opinions now? Opinions on what other people are doing? Are we so pitiful and weak as a society that everyone can do what they want to do and no one is allowed to say anything? We're all special snowflakes? I certainly don't consent to that. The police police by consent. The public have opinions, and free speech, and political franchise " Tell that to social media, government and the main stream press. They are influencing people to act in a particular way. You just need to listen to radio phone ins as an example. The latest is five live a couple of days ago. It's fine having an opinion. Not a problem with that. The problem is that a people seem to be having a big problem with people with other opinions on certain topics. They then become judge and executioner in an aggressive manner. They just cannot accept that people have their own opinions and leave it at that. They have to keep ramming their opinions down their throats. The virus has really enhanced this position. | |||
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"You can buy the lanyards for a few pound regardless of disability or exception, it's whether or not your are that type of person and feel you are above wearing a mask for no apparent reason other than you don't want to and feel you have beat the system with a cheap lanyard. Yeah. It's not the lanyards that are the problem, it's the dickheads piggybacking on people with genuine conditions and those who don't understand disability." yep this
Our kids have em for the disabilities...only used anytime we went on flights away on holiday....they are a god send...such a great things to have for ppl with known and unseen disabilities...shame on the folk who buybthem and use them for purposes they shouldnt be entitled too....karma will get em soon or later in some way or another. | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent. Everything, it has everything to do with it. The public are trying to police each other... But not with consent. The bullying disrespectful comments towards each other is horrendous and needs to stop. We are turning on each other. We have a situation where the public are turning on people who choose not to be vaccinated or wear a mask... Then this same public set off on foreign holidays only to bring back the virus as the vaccine we were promised to get us back to normal only masks symptoms and does not stop us carrying it, or passing it on.. So these do gooders bring in a virus yet bang on at the rest of the population. We need to get back to policing with consent, that's all of us. ... The public are not policing. The police are policing. Are people not allowed political opinions now? Opinions on what other people are doing? Are we so pitiful and weak as a society that everyone can do what they want to do and no one is allowed to say anything? We're all special snowflakes? I certainly don't consent to that. The police police by consent. The public have opinions, and free speech, and political franchise Tell that to social media, government and the main stream press. They are influencing people to act in a particular way. You just need to listen to radio phone ins as an example. The latest is five live a couple of days ago. It's fine having an opinion. Not a problem with that. The problem is that a people seem to be having a big problem with people with other opinions on certain topics. They then become judge and executioner in an aggressive manner. They just cannot accept that people have their own opinions and leave it at that. They have to keep ramming their opinions down their throats. The virus has really enhanced this position. " Yup | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. " Lorna I quite agree with you on that point. Yes I understand that it is very difficult for them and agree. These exemptions should always be treated with the utmost respect and dignity | |||
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"I'm not sure that's what policing by consent means... If you are not sure look it up. It's the standard agreed policing policy within the UK. Without it we are a police state. I did, ta. I'm not sure what policing by consent has to do with anything here. The public generally thinks that the police operates legitimately. And... some people take the piss. And the police still operate under policing by consent. Everything, it has everything to do with it. The public are trying to police each other... But not with consent. The bullying disrespectful comments towards each other is horrendous and needs to stop. We are turning on each other. We have a situation where the public are turning on people who choose not to be vaccinated or wear a mask... Then this same public set off on foreign holidays only to bring back the virus as the vaccine we were promised to get us back to normal only masks symptoms and does not stop us carrying it, or passing it on.. So these do gooders bring in a virus yet bang on at the rest of the population. We need to get back to policing with consent, that's all of us. ... The public are not policing. The police are policing. Are people not allowed political opinions now? Opinions on what other people are doing? Are we so pitiful and weak as a society that everyone can do what they want to do and no one is allowed to say anything? We're all special snowflakes? I certainly don't consent to that. The police police by consent. The public have opinions, and free speech, and political franchise Tell that to social media, government and the main stream press. They are influencing people to act in a particular way. You just need to listen to radio phone ins as an example. The latest is five live a couple of days ago. It's fine having an opinion. Not a problem with that. The problem is that a people seem to be having a big problem with people with other opinions on certain topics. They then become judge and executioner in an aggressive manner. They just cannot accept that people have their own opinions and leave it at that. They have to keep ramming their opinions down their throats. The virus has really enhanced this position. " What's the difference between freedom of expression and ramming opinions down people's throats? | |||
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"I find hard to believe that when I’m food shopping you can see a whole family wearing a lanyard, sometimes mother, father and two teenage kids or, even older, for a start if you are all that poorly that you can’t wear a mask then, in my mind why the hell are you all out as if it’s a family outing to Thorpe Park, I can understand a single parent out with her young kids and, has no other choice but to take the kids along, but when you see a whole family out, where is the thinking it’s out just to wear a lanyard, it doesn’t stop you spreading it or catching it, if you can’t wear a mask then either stay at home or wear a visor, I’m not having a dig here about those who can not for a real reason wear a mask, BUT I’m when people are taking the piss. And yes it Boils my Piss and grips my shit. What boils my piss is that people don't realise that it is often nothing to do with breathing ability in most cases or being ill! People with autism, learning difficulties, suffering severe trauma, severe anxiety ect... These people often find the world hard to navigate at the best of times without others judging what they do or don't put on their face. Lorna I quite agree with you on that point. Yes I understand that it is very difficult for them and agree. These exemptions should always be treated with the utmost respect and dignity "I totally get that their are people who abuse and play the system but I think its best to assume anyone who wears a sunflower lanyard with or without a face covering on needs a bit more time and patience and maybe some help rather than assume they are trying it on and brought it off Amazon to get out of wearing a covering. | |||
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" I totally get that their are people who abuse and play the system but I think its best to assume anyone who wears a sunflower lanyard with or without a face covering on needs a bit more time and patience and maybe some help rather than assume they are trying it on and brought it off Amazon to get out of wearing a covering. " | |||
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"If people go back and check , the government said we have to wear a mask to stop spreading the virus. To protect the vulnerable and save the NHS, well the vulnerable are all jabbed now so why we still wearing them? . Oh could it be they lied again, and the jab doesn't work just asking . No one seems to be asking questions anymore, stop fighting amongst ourselves and start fighting for our rights and children's future. Because if this carries on they won't have one, and it will be our fault the government never take the blame. " It's really simple. The evidence for the vaccines' effectiveness is available in freely accessible, published research evidence. The vaccines have also been studied in real-world use - this information is, again, freely available. It's not necessary to create alarmist scare stories about the 'vaccines not working', especially at a time when increased vaccine take up is in everyone's interest, to help to thwart the Indian variant, which is more than doubling infection levels in a week. Masks help to reduce infections. The cumulative effects of all measures, including masks and vaccines, are obviously best. We have 2 approaches to reduce the damage to us all and our society, firstly restrictions and secondly, vaccines. People who are exempt from mask wearing need our thoughtful consideration. Wearing the sunflower lanyard, for example, could give us pause for thought about how we may potentially support them. | |||
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"Personally I would think that if you had to wear a lanyard to say you have an illness that prevents you wearing a mask, either you wear one or you basically get Covid19 and die ! Extreme I know from me here, but the main reason for not wearing a mask is they suffer from asthma or have a respiratory illness, isn’t that what this virus likes best ? " Far and away not the only reason. I have a qualifying condition. I'm not considered to be clinically vulnerable per the NHS. | |||
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"Personally I would think that if you had to wear a lanyard to say you have an illness that prevents you wearing a mask, either you wear one or you basically get Covid19 and die ! Extreme I know from me here, but the main reason for not wearing a mask is they suffer from asthma or have a respiratory illness, isn’t that what this virus likes best ? " Abuse victims, learning difficulties, anxiety just to name a few legit reasons why people may not be able to cover their faces. All of the above have nothing to do with respiratory illnesses. | |||
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"Personally I would think that if you had to wear a lanyard to say you have an illness that prevents you wearing a mask, either you wear one or you basically get Covid19 and die ! Extreme I know from me here, but the main reason for not wearing a mask is they suffer from asthma or have a respiratory illness, isn’t that what this virus likes best ? " Is ignorance as blissful as they say? | |||
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"This 0ne is starting to boil my piss As I understand that these lanyards are for those that want to advertise their hidden disability( what ever it is) Yet aee people wearing same lanyards because they want to advertise they are mask exempt Why not have a seperate lanyard " I can't help finding that when I go to the supermarket to buy one item, and I respect social distance to the person in front of me, I place my one single item on the conveyor belt only to find the daisy bell lanyard wearing person behind me is loading the conveyor belt whilst invading my social distancing space behind me. | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse Does she have a separate “mask exempt” lanyard? Nope. She wears a mask. She doesn't have to. But she does. She wears her lanyard for the reason it's intended, to alert shop workers that although she looks normal, she may need help. It's why it annoys me that others use it (easy to buy online) and may not actually be exempt. It devalues its importance to ppl like my kid. " But being exempt she would have been supplied with a separate (than the sunflower)‘mask exempt’ lanyard? | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse Does she have a separate “mask exempt” lanyard? Nope. She wears a mask. She doesn't have to. But she does. She wears her lanyard for the reason it's intended, to alert shop workers that although she looks normal, she may need help. It's why it annoys me that others use it (easy to buy online) and may not actually be exempt. It devalues its importance to ppl like my kid. But being exempt she would have been supplied with a separate (than the sunflower)‘mask exempt’ lanyard? " My sunflower lanyard has an extra label saying mask exempt. (I was given it in the ways that existed before it became a commodity ) | |||
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"Try visiting London it's so liberating to find hardly anyone wearing masks anymore, it's like being in Sweden or Miami. Seeing smiles again and people's expressions is priceless. Returning back to the countryside is like being in an English Middle East. People will only put up with so much before making up their own minds. " Well we must be living in different London's because I see far more people wearing face coverings than I do in other towns and cities. | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. " I think 99.9% of Holocaust comparisons are bullshit. Is it really comparable to industrialised genocide? No? Maybe not? It used to be a low visibility way of noting yourself to sympathetic staff, hey, I might need extra help, I have an invisible disability. Now it's morphed into a whole other thing because of the pandemic and it sucks. | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. " I get your point but its obvious if someone isn't wearing a mask so wearing a lanyard/badge often makes the person wearing it feel more comfortable. | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. I think 99.9% of Holocaust comparisons are bullshit. Is it really comparable to industrialised genocide? No? Maybe not? It used to be a low visibility way of noting yourself to sympathetic staff, hey, I might need extra help, I have an invisible disability. Now it's morphed into a whole other thing because of the pandemic and it sucks." Problem is a lot of staff didn't know what the sunflower lanyard was for and now its meaning seems to have been devalued. | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. I think 99.9% of Holocaust comparisons are bullshit. Is it really comparable to industrialised genocide? No? Maybe not? It used to be a low visibility way of noting yourself to sympathetic staff, hey, I might need extra help, I have an invisible disability. Now it's morphed into a whole other thing because of the pandemic and it sucks. Problem is a lot of staff didn't know what the sunflower lanyard was for and now its meaning seems to have been devalued. " Yes, but some definitely did, I've seen and heard of in action. And now - yes. I think I'm going to throw mine away because of what it's become associated with. I'd rather suffer. | |||
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"Ordered a sunflower lanyard and a card that attaches to it saying "mask exempt" online Cost a few quid, anyone can order them. I wrap it around my hand in my pocket and if questioned about a mask flash it. As yet once it's been seen I'm left alone. I'm generally only approached in major super markets and recently less and less." It's a pity that someone officially exempt would need to pay for it. At least you are helping the protection of others' wellbeing and lifesaving, as much as you are able to. | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. I think 99.9% of Holocaust comparisons are bullshit. Is it really comparable to industrialised genocide? No? Maybe not? It used to be a low visibility way of noting yourself to sympathetic staff, hey, I might need extra help, I have an invisible disability. Now it's morphed into a whole other thing because of the pandemic and it sucks. Problem is a lot of staff didn't know what the sunflower lanyard was for and now its meaning seems to have been devalued. " It's sickening that some misuse by the morally bankrupt has led to people who genuinely, and often desperately, need help and support from others, may now be left without this and have their lives trashed. | |||
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"This weekend in Blackpool they have been selling them on the market stalls for £5 " I didn't see them, when I was there - were they prolifically available? I hope that just those deserving of the support they can secure, actually go on to wear them. With huge growth in the Indian variant around some of the North West and elsewhere, the last thing that we need are people callusesly putting others and themselves in harm's way. | |||
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"Must wear a mask when going to the toilet but not when sitting down, does anyone see the bullshit no ok keep wearing the mask like good little sheep haha " I shall keep wearing mine thankyou. Been doing so since March last year. Not sure how that makes me a sheep though.. seeing as that was long before masks were required x | |||
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"I think its despicable that people have to identify themselves as exempt in the first place. We live in a society where we have to justify ourselves to satiate someone else's curiosity so as not to feel awkward, despite the global pleas for tolerance and compassion. The world is going backwards, frst it was yellow stars on armbands, now its sunflower lanyards. Except its the state that telling people to this. The government make it very clear you don't have to show or prove you are exempt, its society that is dictating it. " It is indeed society. I was in an urgent dash yesterday to get to hospital and needed change to park. It was pouring with rain and my head was up my ass. Went into my local Co-op to buy a drink in order to get cashback and simply forgot the need for a mask or lanyard and had only picked up my phone to pay with. The staff said nothing but customers gave me some filthy looks! | |||
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"I have heard people say why don't we wear a star like the Jews were forced to do by the nazis during the war. We really have to be carefull here labelling people for all the right or wrong reasons. I think 99.9% of Holocaust comparisons are bullshit. Is it really comparable to industrialised genocide? No? Maybe not? It used to be a low visibility way of noting yourself to sympathetic staff, hey, I might need extra help, I have an invisible disability. Now it's morphed into a whole other thing because of the pandemic and it sucks. Problem is a lot of staff didn't know what the sunflower lanyard was for and now its meaning seems to have been devalued. It's sickening that some misuse by the morally bankrupt has led to people who genuinely, and often desperately, need help and support from others, may now be left without this and have their lives trashed. " | |||
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"My eldest has a sunflower lanyard. She don't have to wear a mask because of their illnesses/disabilities, but she does wear one. Mainly because catching covid would be really bad for her. So boils my puss too that so many use it as an excuse " The usage of face masks is not to protect the user, it's to protect others from the user. | |||
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