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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke

Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you should be more concerned that you read the Daily Mail, there’s no recovering from that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK."

If you want the vaccine have it. If you don't want to have then don't.

There really is no conspiracy.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

Hello op welcome to the forum.

Has your friend conducted the magnet experiment himself?

I think people are extremely gullible and will believe what to me anyway, are quite incredible theories. Mainly I reckon because they're afraid of what the truth might mean.

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By *olymalelincsMan
over a year ago

southend


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK."

Well I have had the Pfizer vaccine and have to say I still can't get fridge magnets to stick and don't get better WiFi from the chip that it was ment to contain either lol

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

The new mutations that have arisen in India are deeply troubling the WHO and national experts.

If the current vaccines do not provide protection against these mutations, we may have to start again!

As regards the crackpot conspiracy theories, ignore their delusional nonsence.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.

Well I have had the Pfizer vaccine and have to say I still can't get fridge magnets to stick and don't get better WiFi from the chip that it was ment to contain either lol"

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Hello op welcome to the forum.

Has your friend conducted the magnet experiment himself?

I think people are extremely gullible and will believe what to me anyway, are quite incredible theories. Mainly I reckon because they're afraid of what the truth might mean. "

Actually, the other sceptic ofnthe group took a fridge magnet and tried it on the vaccinated arm of her mother. It did not stick. Her mother”s stare was priceless.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

People need to feel in control. For some reason some feel "everyone's evil, they're all out to get you, and no one will believe me" more comforting than "the government aren't always the most competent and shit is out of control"

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

All I can say is, common sense is not something many people seem to possess.

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By *nergeticlemurMan
over a year ago

wiltshire

I'm confused, how is a magnet test proof of anything?

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.

Well I have had the Pfizer vaccine and have to say I still can't get fridge magnets to stick and don't get better WiFi from the chip that it was ment to contain either lol

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If the Wifi did not improve with the Pfizer, then it is time to change internet provider.

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By *AABMan
over a year ago

Not far

I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I can say is, common sense is not something many people seem to possess. "

You'd be surprised how uncommon it actually is.

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"All I can say is, common sense is not something many people seem to possess. "

Then again, almost everyone has a fridge magnet at home.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"All I can say is, common sense is not something many people seem to possess.

Then again, almost everyone has a fridge magnet at home."

Hmm.

Brb

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit."

I think the antidote to conspiracy theorists is to shoot every single one of the fuck muppets.....drastic I know, but serious times call for serious action.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I saw a YouTube video of a cat with stockings and heels on. It must be true. I'm waiting for pussy as we speak.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit.

I think the antidote to conspiracy theorists is to shoot every single one of the fuck muppets.....drastic I know, but serious times call for serious action. "

That's a bit dramatic

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

It could be true, had my second at the centre I was at this afternoon and not long had a Chinese take away..

Left arm jabbed and when eating with my right hand the fork veered in that direction, until my mouth intervened possibly saving me from a good covered left upper arm..

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"I'm confused, how is a magnet test proof of anything? "

It works a treat for the conspiracy theorists and makes a number of sceptics share the video. Think, they say.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm confused, how is a magnet test proof of anything?

It works a treat for the conspiracy theorists and makes a number of sceptics share the video. Think, they say."

That one weird trick Big Pharma don't want you to know

Housewives in Your Area taking advantage now!

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"It could be true, had my second at the centre I was at this afternoon and not long had a Chinese take away..

Left arm jabbed and when eating with my right hand the fork veered in that direction, until my mouth intervened possibly saving me from a good covered left upper arm.."

This is why you should have used chopsticks.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"It could be true, had my second at the centre I was at this afternoon and not long had a Chinese take away..

Left arm jabbed and when eating with my right hand the fork veered in that direction, until my mouth intervened possibly saving me from a good covered left upper arm..

This is why you should have used chopsticks."

Good call..

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit.

I think the antidote to conspiracy theorists is to shoot every single one of the fuck muppets.....drastic I know, but serious times call for serious action. "

Shoot them with a jab, you mean.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit.

I think the antidote to conspiracy theorists is to shoot every single one of the fuck muppets.....drastic I know, but serious times call for serious action.

Shoot them with a jab, you mean."

No....with a bullet.

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"I saw a YouTube video of a cat with stockings and heels on. It must be true. I'm waiting for pussy as we speak. "

Not long ago, Rudy Giuliani said “Truth isn’t Truth”.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People who believe and spread conspiracy theories, do it because it gives them some self importance. Makes them feel they know more than everyone else. Of course, they don't. But they can't accept that there is something they don't understand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Then again, almost everyone has a fridge magnet at home."

It’s probably a London thing.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport

The problem with truth is that, well, it's true. Which means it has fuzzy edges, and can be interpreted and emphasized in different way by different people. Truth is the elephant casting shadows from the flickering lamp, and everyone seeing a different little bit of the picture. Truth isn't always warm and comforting, it's difficult to understand and sometimes downright nasty in its consequences.

But everyone likes a nice fairy story, especially if it pushes the blame for all the world's woes onto somebody else. And fairy stories are endlessly adaptable, every time that the truth trips up the story, another bit can be added saying "well of course, THEY will have changed that in order to trick us...".

Conspiracy theories are the result of the unscrupulous taking advantage of the uneducated; while ever there is somebody seeking to buy snake oil, there will be somebody selling it; real medicine that cannot promise miracles will be pushed to the side.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic."

Well i can feel a slight attraction

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"I think the antidote to conspiracies is a simple thought experiment. For any conspiracy to be true it would require a level of intelligence planning and competency that is way way beyond the average government dimwit."

Acknowledging the race to beat it spreading further, the Prime Minister said second doses of vaccines will be accelerated for the over-50s and the clinically vulnerable across the country, so they are given eight weeks after the first dose instead of the current 12 weeks.

I do not mind if a dimwit thought of this. Brings my second dose much closer!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The variants and original came from suspected of China. However why aren't the Chinese at the fore front of analysis and cure of this virus. Seems that they have kept very quiet about covid19. However their economy has been on the rise where everyone else is still in decline

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By *ob08Man
over a year ago

Macclesfield

The most scary thing about all this is the amount of gullible halfwits who's only news source is Facebook or Twitter that have been brought to light.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK."
I gave up reading this post after about ten words, think I did well to get that far,

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic."

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"I think you should be more concerned that you read the Daily Mail, there’s no recovering from that."

I am reading other papers too, like the Guardian. But I never rely on sources like Facebook and TikTok for info and I always ask for the source if they post something without the source.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


". I always ask for the source,"

HP or Daddies brown?

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"The most scary thing about all this is the amount of gullible halfwits who's only news source is Facebook or Twitter that have been brought to light."

That’s the thing! They get stuff that one can not get on the mainstream media!

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality "

And a beautiful deriere!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.I gave up reading this post after about ten words, think I did well to get that far,"

Is that a special warm NW welcome to the OP?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality

And a beautiful deriere!"

Thank you

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK."

Seem like that person is doing better than me as I have a metal plate in my arm and I thought about the unbelievable magic tricks I could've done but guess I most probably have to keep rubbing a magnet to produce a magnetic force wish the specialists had advised me before had as it seems a little bit difficult through the skin

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.I gave up reading this post after about ten words, think I did well to get that far,

Is that a special warm NW welcome to the OP? "

I do not mind fast readers

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


". I always ask for the source,

HP or Daddies brown?"

Neither! Maybe it is because of Tamarind.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality "

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Hello everyone. This is my first thread.

I have this small group of friends on messenger and we have different opinions on whether the covid19 vaccines are good or bad. One of my friends, who thinks the vaccine is bad, posted in our group today this ridiculous (in my opinion) video that has gone viral. In the video, someone applies a magnet to the arm of someone who got vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine and the magnet sticks to the arm whereas it does not stick to the other (unvaccinated) arm. Apparently, this proves that the vaccine has enough metals and therefore it is bad for people...

I also read on Daily Mail about the Indian variant. The Mail says: What is the Indian variant?

B.1.617 has three strains or sub-types that are genetically similar – B.1.617.1, B.1.617.2 and B.1.617.3. It has 13 mutations that separate it from the original Chinese virus, but the E484Q and L452R mutations are of most interest.

And it made me think. Conspiracies are so widespread and believable because they claim something simple. But try to say the truth, that the Indian variant has 3 sub-types and 13 mutations. Not many people pay attention and do not think it is anything of importance even though it seems that is spreading fast, here in the UK.

Seem like that person is doing better than me as I have a metal plate in my arm and I thought about the unbelievable magic tricks I could've done but guess I most probably have to keep rubbing a magnet to produce a magnetic force wish the specialists had advised me before had as it seems a little bit difficult through the skin "

But do you get stopped everytime you have to go through a scanner?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Wait, the vaccine magnetism is on our metal plates?

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"The variants and original came from suspected of China. However why aren't the Chinese at the fore front of analysis and cure of this virus. Seems that they have kept very quiet about covid19. However their economy has been on the rise where everyone else is still in decline"

They keep quiet because the whole mess started from there. If only they had moved faster to contain it and chose not to keep quiet. Now they want the whole world to forget about it. I do not believe that they had the number of cases and casualties reported but their draconian measures certainly worked. Should their lockdowns were like the ones in Europe or in UK, they would be in deep sh1t even now.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I think you should be more concerned that you read the Daily Mail, there’s no recovering from that."
Try to make imtelligent or at least funny comments please instead of trying to prove your thick

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"The variants and original came from suspected of China. However why aren't the Chinese at the fore front of analysis and cure of this virus. Seems that they have kept very quiet about covid19. However their economy has been on the rise where everyone else is still in decline

They keep quiet because the whole mess started from there. If only they had moved faster to contain it and chose not to keep quiet. Now they want the whole world to forget about it. I do not believe that they had the number of cases and casualties reported but their draconian measures certainly worked. Should their lockdowns were like the ones in Europe or in UK, they would be in deep sh1t even now."

There's been a new outbreak in Eastern China and they've locked the areas down, including quarantining whole apartment blocks

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/mainland-china-reports-first-local-covid-19-cases-more-than-3-weeks-2021-05-14/

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic."

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!"

Doesnt heat de-magnetize? Try a kettle of hot water......NO, WAIT..bad idea

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!"

At least you'll be well fed

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!

Doesnt heat de-magnetize? Try a kettle of hot water......NO, WAIT..bad idea"

You could have warned me!

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!

Doesnt heat de-magnetize? Try a kettle of hot water......NO, WAIT..bad idea

You could have warned me! "

I did...I said NO, WAIT. Not my fault you were impulsive.....that's why you're stuck to the fridge. Get me a cold beer while you're there please, cheers

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!

Doesnt heat de-magnetize? Try a kettle of hot water......NO, WAIT..bad idea

You could have warned me!

I did...I said NO, WAIT. Not my fault you were impulsive.....that's why you're stuck to the fridge. Get me a cold beer while you're there please, cheers "

Bloody rude!

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By *ockdownerMan
over a year ago

Preston


"I think you should be more concerned that you read the Daily Mail, there’s no recovering from that.

Try to make imtelligent or at least funny comments please instead of trying to prove your thick"

I deduce you read the Dailly Mail then

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

So being a scientist (educationally if not vocationally) I had to try this despite being sure of the outcome.

I have had both Pfizer vaccines and I can confirm that magnets do not stick to my arm, despite my magnetic personality

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By *ddmanMan
over a year ago

Norwich

Humans are narrative, not rational. You have to train them to be rational, to understand risk by probability and the world by objectivity, not gut instinct.

It doesn't help that, to the public, what scientists and technologists do is functionally indistinguishable from magic. The language is arcane and strictly defined and there's a barrier to entry into discussions that require significant existing understanding to contribute.

Disinformation is crafted to satisfy that story impulse in people. It doesn't have to justify it's falsehoods, they just have to sound plausible. They rely on an expert taking time to refute them, even though bybthe tine you're done, they'be invented more to rebutt.

The memes play to the crowd, not the facts - a friend-of-a-friend's youtube editorial of a third parties "amazing discovery" has, strangely, more relatable value than the words of a group of people who've spent two decades immersed in a career specialising in the topic, backed by reams of peer reviewed data and conclusions, even working products.

The public doesn't trust experts becuase they think experts literally don't think like them. They feel powerless and in the hands of forces directed by groups whom they don't relate to.

A conspiracy theory gives them back thier power. They connect to it and it gives them "secret knowledge" and a model of the world they can grasp even if it's warped and twisted. They may even invest in the alternate reality that they've become citizen heroes against 'them', and, at that point you can't reach them with facts and figures because that attacks a identity they've adopted. They've rejected the rational for the "common sense" and will actively seek to misunderstand it, if only to confirm thier pet biases.

Scientific communicators need to learn how to convert thier research into better stories. I'm sadly not sure how to achieve that.

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

I tried it and now I'm stuck to the fridge, send help!

Doesnt heat de-magnetize? Try a kettle of hot water......NO, WAIT..bad idea

You could have warned me!

I did...I said NO, WAIT. Not my fault you were impulsive.....that's why you're stuck to the fridge. Get me a cold beer while you're there please, cheers

Bloody rude! "

Waited that long for a beer, had to get my own. Now I am stuck to the fridge door.....thank you very much. Now, where is that kettle?

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"So being a scientist (educationally if not vocationally) I had to try this despite being sure of the outcome.

I have had both Pfizer vaccines and I can confirm that magnets do not stick to my arm, despite my magnetic personality "

Lucky you! You had both vaccines already. Your stockings and suspenders look great. You wear them well.

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Any girl a magnet sticks to is surely a 'keeper'!

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By *traight_no_ice OP   Man
over a year ago

Stoke


"Humans are narrative, not rational. You have to train them to be rational, to understand risk by probability and the world by objectivity, not gut instinct.

It doesn't help that, to the public, what scientists and technologists do is functionally indistinguishable from magic. The language is arcane and strictly defined and there's a barrier to entry into discussions that require significant existing understanding to contribute.

Disinformation is crafted to satisfy that story impulse in people. It doesn't have to justify it's falsehoods, they just have to sound plausible. They rely on an expert taking time to refute them, even though bybthe tine you're done, they'be invented more to rebutt.

The memes play to the crowd, not the facts - a friend-of-a-friend's youtube editorial of a third parties "amazing discovery" has, strangely, more relatable value than the words of a group of people who've spent two decades immersed in a career specialising in the topic, backed by reams of peer reviewed data and conclusions, even working products.

The public doesn't trust experts becuase they think experts literally don't think like them. They feel powerless and in the hands of forces directed by groups whom they don't relate to.

A conspiracy theory gives them back thier power. They connect to it and it gives them "secret knowledge" and a model of the world they can grasp even if it's warped and twisted. They may even invest in the alternate reality that they've become citizen heroes against 'them', and, at that point you can't reach them with facts and figures because that attacks a identity they've adopted. They've rejected the rational for the "common sense" and will actively seek to misunderstand it, if only to confirm thier pet biases.

Scientific communicators need to learn how to convert thier research into better stories. I'm sadly not sure how to achieve that. "

Great comment. Although I believe that there are also some mean conspiracy theorists who promote such stories for profit. For example, someone who makes a living from alternative therapies (for covid cure...) and scams people has promotes such stories with every opportunity.

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By *AM2214Man
over a year ago

Manchester Area


"The variants and original came from suspected of China. However why aren't the Chinese at the fore front of analysis and cure of this virus. Seems that they have kept very quiet about covid19. However their economy has been on the rise where everyone else is still in decline"
they are too busy intimidating The Philippines over the Sprately Islands..

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By *AM2214Man
over a year ago

Manchester Area


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality

And a beautiful deriere!"
and the leggings make it look like it's encased in a Faraday Cage...

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By *AM2214Man
over a year ago

Manchester Area


"... nope. Experimental vaccine does not make me magnetic.

The only thing magnetic about me is my personality

And a beautiful deriere!

Thank you "

It's them leggings.. Magnetizifigant

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By *uyfrombristolMan
over a year ago

Bristol

I had my first dose last Friday and side effects include better 5G reception and 100% more Bill Gates sleeping in my sofa during hard times.

Fuck's sake. What really annoys me about this is that it all plays to people's (legitimate) concerns. You're right to ask questions, but not to be stupid. I haven't been ill throughout this whole thing, so I perhaps rightly thought 'I don't need this'. Then I thought, 'this isn't actually all about me', so I took the injection based on the infinitesimally small risk factor. Most of you play the lottery with worse odds.

Honestly though, all of this shit is based on spurious YouTube and Facebook videos that profess to know better than world-reknowened virologists and the like. Stop listening to Tucker Carlson.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I had my first dose last Friday and side effects include better 5G reception and 100% more Bill Gates sleeping in my sofa during hard times.

Fuck's sake. What really annoys me about this is that it all plays to people's (legitimate) concerns. You're right to ask questions, but not to be stupid. I haven't been ill throughout this whole thing, so I perhaps rightly thought 'I don't need this'. Then I thought, 'this isn't actually all about me', so I took the injection based on the infinitesimally small risk factor. Most of you play the lottery with worse odds.

Honestly though, all of this shit is based on spurious YouTube and Facebook videos that profess to know better than world-reknowened virologists and the like. Stop listening to Tucker Carlson."

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

The interesting thing is how the next generations develop out of this, how the virus/ vaccines affect the new borns.

Are we seeing a Prometheus scenario in the beginning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"All I can say is, common sense is not something many people seem to possess. "

You can say that again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I had my first dose last Friday and side effects include better 5G reception and 100% more Bill Gates sleeping in my sofa during hard times.

Fuck's sake. What really annoys me about this is that it all plays to people's (legitimate) concerns. You're right to ask questions, but not to be stupid. I haven't been ill throughout this whole thing, so I perhaps rightly thought 'I don't need this'. Then I thought, 'this isn't actually all about me', so I took the injection based on the infinitesimally small risk factor. Most of you play the lottery with worse odds.

Honestly though, all of this shit is based on spurious YouTube and Facebook videos that profess to know better than world-reknowened virologists and the like. Stop listening to Tucker Carlson."

lol

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman
over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks

The trouble with the truth is its just not that sexy is it? Sex sells, and conspirators want the eXcitement factor, not mundane common sense.

I blame Simon Cowell, he's the king of the beavers, he cannot deceive us...

https://youtu.be/M8el_P4yvfc

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Critical thinking and vaccines are good. As are appropriate restrictions, to minimise the impact of the virus and dangerous untruths that jeopardise safety and well-being

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Hello op welcome to the forum.

Has your friend conducted the magnet experiment himself?

I think people are extremely gullible and will believe what to me anyway, are quite incredible theories. Mainly I reckon because they're afraid of what the truth might mean. "

Was he standing close to a 5G mast at the time?

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By *andy 1Couple
over a year ago

northeast


"People who believe and spread conspiracy theories, do it because it gives them some self importance. Makes them feel they know more than everyone else. Of course, they don't. But they can't accept that there is something they don't understand. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I deduce you read the Dailly Mail then "

The Bible of the Bigot.

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