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By *arkus1812 OP Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands

As top scientist urges older people who have had both jabs to start living again So says the Daily Mirror

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Oh, well, if it's in the Mirror the it must be true, eh?

Every bit as bad as The Sun but aimed at other side of the political spectrum

Although the scientist's view might have some validity, if it's true

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I'm still sticking to hands, face, space and limiting my travel etc.. as for now we are not allowed to do much else

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

It was Prof Van Tam who said this, providing both people have had both vaccinations.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/virus/1149290

The thread on the Professor's comments

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I don't think so.

Can the good professor tell me the following so I can take a decision ?

1. What is my currently immunity / antibody level post 1 vaccination ?

2. What will that be after the second, and how long after ?

3. Am I protected from new variants ? What level of protection ?

4. Regardless, is it possible to be a carrier and affect others unwittingly ?

No thanks. I'll stay inside.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

No thanks. I'll stay inside. "

No one is forcing you to go out. You are welcome to stay inside as long as you want.

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By *igh wide and handsomeMan
over a year ago

Dagenham

Get out there and have some fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I despair.

I really wish people didn’t tell random strangers to

A- go out and do what they want

B- don’t go out and do what I tell you.

Let’s just all stick to the roadmap. For gods sake it’s not long to go now.

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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago

lytham st.annes

"I despair.

I really wish people didn’t tell random strangers to

A- go out and do what they want

B- don’t go out and do what I tell you.

Let’s just all stick to the roadmap. For gods sake it’s not long to go now."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I despair.

I really wish people didn’t tell random strangers to

A- go out and do what they want

B- don’t go out and do what I tell you.

Let’s just all stick to the roadmap. For gods sake it’s not long to go now."

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

It was actual Prof Tim Spector saying this not Prof Van Tam, it's just the article is badly written (suprise!) and starts by mentioning Van Tam.

I also don't think he's saying people actually 'should' be going out and doing that (as I'm encouraging them to), but that the levels are low enough that they 'should' be able to (as in he thinks it's probably safe enough to).

That's two slightly different things.

It still needs confirming and being made legal, which I'm sure is coming soon.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"It was actual Prof Tim Spector saying this not Prof Van Tam, it's just the article is badly written (suprise!) and starts by mentioning Van Tam.

That's two slightly different things.

It still needs confirming and being made legal, which I'm sure is coming soon. "

"(as 'in' encouraging them to)"

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I hate the way everything gets twisted, I think they are basically trying to say it's possibly safe enough to do this now but it still isn't allowed.

We are literally 2 months away from getting our lives back to some semblance of normal, don't fuck it up now by bending the rules to suit yourself.

We have all made sacrifices and suffered, don't let it all have been a waste of time after losing over a year of normal life.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

"As top scientist urges older people who have had both jabs to start living again So says the Daily Mirror"

The mirror.. Lol. Mind you these days hard to find a real newspaper that has an editor who wants to tell the truth :/

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By *iger-NWMan
over a year ago

Preston

You need to wait at least 2 weeks (and probably longer) after your second jab for it to work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had both jabs and am enjoying myself as much as possible

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By *ockdownerMan
over a year ago

Preston

No thanks. I'll stay inside.

No one is forcing you to go out. You are welcome to stay inside as long as you want. "

Bang on!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"I've had both jabs and am enjoying myself as much as possible

Me too.x

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"It was actual Prof Tim Spector saying this not Prof Van Tam, it's just the article is badly written (suprise!) and starts by mentioning Van Tam.

That's two slightly different things.

It still needs confirming and being made legal, which I'm sure is coming soon. "

Actually prof van tam actually was asked a question in yesterday presser and he said please don’t rush to get back to normality yet and stick to the present timeline as not to lose all the gains made… but it was looking promising that dates won’t need to be changed

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

There is light ahead. A time for cautious optimism.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"It was actual Prof Tim Spector saying this not Prof Van Tam, it's just the article is badly written (suprise!) and starts by mentioning Van Tam.

That's two slightly different things.

It still needs confirming and being made legal, which I'm sure is coming soon.

Yep. Pretty certain that's what Prof Tim Spector was trying to say too, but his wording wasn't great and the Mirror's reporting was awful and made it sound like he was encouraging going out when he wasn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was actual Prof Tim Spector saying this not Prof Van Tam, it's just the article is badly written (suprise!) and starts by mentioning Van Tam.

That's two slightly different things.

It still needs confirming and being made legal, which I'm sure is coming soon.

The media twisting and confusing things? I don't believe it!

The papers should be held jointly accountable for a lot of the mixed and confusing messages this last year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go out and have fun... do whatever suits you.

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By *ewfie02Couple
over a year ago

Ayrshire

There are many different diseases and viruses far worse than Covid-19. Life is risky. No one gets out alive. You might as well live life to the full.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It amazes me how scared people are. Snowflakes and wokeness is most of what I see on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a flu jab every year and don't think twice about going out and about. Why is this any different? If it doesn't work why bother giving it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

What and then if she dies your conscience is clear because the government said it was OK to meet?

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed."

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

What and then if she dies your conscience is clear because the government said it was OK to meet?

Rules are there for a reason.

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

What and then if she dies your conscience is clear because the government said it was OK to meet?

Rules are there for a reason.

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed."

What and then if she dies your conscience is clear because the government said it was OK to meet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed."

she would not even be able to recognise my kids faces if I hadn't she's riddled with dementia.. sometimes an illness is worse than death. you sound so compassionate.. i firmly believe I've added to her quality of life and my kids.. hardly been having a fecking orgy

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

" i firmly believe I've added to her quality of life and my kids.. "

I agree you did the right thing. I have seen my mum almost every day too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hopefully going to book pizza express outside on Bank Holiday Monday to get her out she will moan about the cold and prob get a cold lol

tho oddly she doesn't when she tries to walk to the shop in the middle of the night as she thinks it's morning. sundowning in dementia is truely awful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed.

We went through this with our mam if anyone had told me not to go see her I know what they would have been told.

She died of dementia not covid.

But it was horrific to see her go through it and it doesn't bare thinking of none us being there with her at the end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed.

We went through this with our mam if anyone had told me not to go see her I know what they would have been told.

She died of dementia not covid.

But it was horrific to see her go through it and it doesn't bare thinking of none us being there with her at the end.

utterly and totally agree. sending hugs x

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

"I think there are basically two groups.. those who have been shut inside and still had money coming in and those who've had no choice but to go out and work and face this thing

I've bent rules to go and see my mum and took kids and hugged her, pretty sure she would've died without the human contact

I havent seen my mum for 10 months...no hugs no nothing.

Pisses me off when people like you break the rules .

She may have died because of human contact from you and your kids !

I couldnt live with that on my conscience so will wait until visiting inside is allowed."

I haven't seen mine for about 2 years now due to her having COPD, and us having nasty coughs before Covid hit.

However, I have no real issues with others bending / breaking the rules in some cases like this, but do have issues with people breaking them just for fun.

We shouldn't be so eager to throw blame because someone has broken the rules as the rules can't factor in every situation. We need to have a little flexibility and compassion in the way we think.

It's like a mate of mine said, most of us have probably broken the speed limit by a couple of mph or know someone who has and we don't think twice about it, however most will probably also condem someone who goes double the speed limit. At what point does it go from ok to wrong? There is no clear answer and everyone's answer will be different.

So in these cases, let's not get too judgemental when someone has weighed up all the facts and made a difficult choice that may be different to ours.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Dementia wasnt mentioned...changes my thoughts completely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

still bending the rules.. what people do.. its not all about hedonism.. People can die of loneliness too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

also I think what I said about the country is split in two is important

d- those who have been in lockdown because of being financially secure or shielding are now in a mindset where its harder to come out of and people who have been working every day in the outside world may find going out and having fun easier... we all need it tho

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Pick your scientist... There's one for every view that meets your own....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56955105

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hopefully going to book pizza express outside on Bank Holiday Monday to get her out she will moan about the cold and prob get a cold lol

tho oddly she doesn't when she tries to walk to the shop in the middle of the night as she thinks it's morning. sundowning in dementia is truely awful

It's supposed to be rainy & windy on Monday. Can you take her tomorrow instead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol I wanted to but my daughter is positive she's going shopping with her friend... these teenage girls lol.. she'll still bake her a cake tho bless her

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I don't think so.

Can the good professor tell me the following so I can take a decision ?

1. What is my currently immunity / antibody level post 1 vaccination ?

2. What will that be after the second, and how long after ?

3. Am I protected from new variants ? What level of protection ?

4. Regardless, is it possible to be a carrier and affect others unwittingly ?

No thanks. I'll stay inside. "

None of your points can ever be answered with any degree of accuracy anyway ... better get used to staying inside for a very long time.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The time to let our guard down will come. For me it'll be when I'm fully vaccinated and protection levels are high - and it's legal.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

"None of your points can ever be answered with any degree of accuracy anyway ... better get used to staying inside for a very long time."

Que Sera, Sera as the song goes. All things come in time.

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By *onty the martianMan
over a year ago

Censored boy

"I despair.

I really wish people didn’t tell random strangers to

A- go out and do what they want

B- don’t go out and do what I tell you.

Let’s just all stick to the roadmap. For gods sake it’s not long to go now."

Hasnt Boris and his band of merry men (and women) been doing "B" since March 23rd last year? Lol

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

We are more than ready to get out and start living our lives. Every single thing in life involves some sort of risk. Nothing is ever risk free.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"As top scientist urges older people who have had both jabs to start living again So says the Daily Mirror"

Didnt he actually say that all those who have had both jabs, you should go and fuck strangers immediately?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think I'm up to about 30 or so pub visits since 12 April....14 different pubs locally and in/around Cotswolds.

Get out, have fun. Support the local economy....1 vaccine so far for me....

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"Think I'm up to about 30 or so pub visits since 12 April....14 different pubs locally and in/around Cotswolds.

Get out, have fun. Support the local economy....1 vaccine so far for me...."

Blimey...30 pub visits in 21 days....there's dedication for you!

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Didn't we have this last summer? Then the eat out to help out, all of which were thought to have a direct impact on the increase of cases come the autumn.

So forgive me if a little sceptical about being told what to do again this year.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Think I'm up to about 30 or so pub visits since 12 April....14 different pubs locally and in/around Cotswolds.

Get out, have fun. Support the local economy....1 vaccine so far for me...."

30 pub visits in 20 days.... Some going fella!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Didn't we have this last summer? Then the eat out to help out, all of which were thought to have a direct impact on the increase of cases come the autumn.

So forgive me if a little sceptical about being told what to do again this year. "

But we didn't have vaccinations last year.

My butt is still mostly at home, but once I'm fully vaccinated that will change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think I'm up to about 30 or so pub visits since 12 April....14 different pubs locally and in/around Cotswolds.

Get out, have fun. Support the local economy....1 vaccine so far for me....

30 pub visits in 20 days.... Some going fella! "

One tries....added a new one for lunch today and had breakfast at spoons (a repeat) so keeping things going

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Dementia wasnt mentioned...changes my thoughts completely "

My Dad with dementia has been in our bubble but sometimes it's my brother who's had to deal with things. Dad needs someone with him for all medical appointments, for example, because he can't remember things like yes, he's had a knee replacement or yes, he has glaucoma etc. He can't retain any new information at all and is struggling to remember with any accuracy events within the last 20 years and growing rapidly. He chats about his Grandfather, who died in 1947 when he was 8.

There's no way my Dad would be here now if my brother and I had just left him on his own (because he does live alone). I'm all for following the rules but managing family members who are ill, elderly or disabled requires a degree of latitude for the individual situation.

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