FabSwingers.com forum: India and covid

By *lder A Wiser Passion OP Woman
over a year ago

morecambe

So come on folk dose anyone think like me that its going to get really out of hand over there and what we seeing is the tip in the Ice berg. That is only a matter of time we see the likes in afica and countrys like Brazil and who thinks like me how is the world going to help them all

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"So come on folk dose anyone think like me that its going to get really out of hand over there and what we seeing is the tip in the Ice berg. That is only a matter of time we see the likes in afica and countrys like Brazil and who thinks like me how is the world going to help them all

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again"

I think you're right... We are doing OK in our country at the moment. But given how porous our border control is.. We are a long way from out of this.. We have a long autumn and winter ahead of us. Unless we have more effective test and trace and quarantine I think we still have a risk of bringing it back from our travels.

The vaccine does seem to be working for now so need to manufacture test distribute and administer best part of 5 million more doses of that plus boosters.

Lastly, for what it's worth... Thoughts and prayers to whatever being to help Brazil and India populations... It looks truly awful.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

I've been in West Africa for the majority of the pandemic, and they have had a better reaction time in implementing restrictions than what the UK have.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I've been in West Africa for the majority of the pandemic, and they have had a better reaction time in implementing restrictions than what the UK have.

They were faster and more strict in some respect like curfews but people are less compliant, and much more quickly went back to normal , in Lagos other than the city/VI 30 million people basically ignored advice and carried in as normal

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"I've been in West Africa for the majority of the pandemic, and they have had a better reaction time in implementing restrictions than what the UK have.

Lagos is its own entity. I was moved fro VI to Ghana as the company policies changed.

I was supposed to return last month however there is a hold on STR's within our company.

Not complaining I could be back down PH lol

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London

"I've been in West Africa for the majority of the pandemic, and they have had a better reaction time in implementing restrictions than what the UK have.

That's true, most countries in West Africa have handled the pandemic a lot better. Quicker reactions and effective measures.

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By *irtyold manMan
over a year ago

barnsley

England open door attitude to foreign travelers plus the 200 to 500 unknown imigrants coming over every day in boats means whatever is going round in the world we will get.since so many are unemployed in the country at the moment wouldent it be a good idea to give everyone a job in border controle and customs and close the holes in oure open borders.pity the gove dont see whats coming

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By *veragecouple321Couple
over a year ago

Leamington Spa

What is happening in India is tragic, but there government needs to step up and help, they are not poor, they have a space program and are planning on building their own version of the iss, why are they not putting that on the back burner and spending the money on something to actually help their citizens

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Things will only improve if the 2 courses of action are taken -

Social restrictions, including lockdown type measures here.

Vaccinations.

Things can get worse, without these, including by having huge levels of infections fuelling greater numbers of mutations, some of which may be much more of a severe impact to life as we've known it, a greater range of the types of people infected and getting very ill, disabled or losing lives, increasing infectivity of the virus and more.

India's population is enormous and thus vaccine productivion for them will take a long time. Without them, only strict adherence to limited contact between people, alongside mask use etc, is all that will limit the spread of the virus. It certainly needs the appropriate engagement of leadership, which has been missing in Brazil and was in the USA. In the meantime, it requires massive health provision offerings, above the scope of the country.

As we've seen in the UK, some people resist the very measures that help to stop the UK from becoming like India and Brazil. Some still want us to stop all restrictions now, come what may. We're fortunate that some of our measures have paid off, with sufficient agreement by the population to face restrictions and to have a vaccine for the common good.

The future is uncertain, in part due to the complexity of governments, population levels and the ability of the virus to mutate. Ee can each do what is in the best interests of our fellow citizens and not just to pretend that only we matter.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I've not heard an update on the Dyson ventilators that he asked us to give a tax break on. Has the technology been redirected to help the likes of India, does anyone know?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I've not heard an update on the Dyson ventilators that he asked us to give a tax break on. Has the technology been redirected to help the likes of India, does anyone know? "

I don't think they were ever actually built. They made prototypes etc and invested in the idea but no production of them. I doubt they'd get many made quickly enough to help India any time soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i worked in india for a bit, its very much a 3rd 2o4ld coutry, in ways alot of westan people would not belive, people living on the streets, very poor hygine etc, so im not suprised

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

UK already has sent ventilators and oxygen producing equipment.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

UK already has sent ventilators and oxygen producing equipment."

Hopefully more countries are doing the same

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

Bursting population, religious beliefs, poor sanitation and living standards. Make this an impossible fix. I dread to think how many will eventually die

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

Me thinks a little bit can be learnt from the situation in India lots over here seem to be convinced they got a higher chance of being killed in a car accident than getting covid,

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"i worked in india for a bit, its very much a 3rd 2o4ld coutry, in ways alot of westan people would not belive, people living on the streets, very poor hygine etc, so im not suprised"

And this is due to the government not looking after it's population which has led to things as bad as they are plus people lack of understanding

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By *ermite12ukMan
over a year ago

Solihull and Brentwood

"i worked in india for a bit, its very much a 3rd 2o4ld coutry, in ways alot of westan people would not belive, people living on the streets, very poor hygine etc, so im not suprised

And this is due to the government not looking after it's population which has led to things as bad as they are plus people lack of understanding"

They are also exporting most of the world's vaccines. Which at best, is a bit ironic and at worst could result in a change of government.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

And there by the grace of god ...and to think only a short while ago everyone was cheering or seemed to be the Governments pledge to cut the over seas aid budget ??

Perhaps now we can have some real grown ups or even adults point out the more than obvious that what happens over there ...effects us all here ..eventually ..and so all this flag waving etc etc etc ...until EVERYONE is safe from this NO ONE ( including us) is safe ..simple really

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

And do away with the Department that's deals with the aid to countries who are now being ravaged ??? all pointless point scoring and it's such a good point ...Until everyone's safe from this ..no one is safe

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"i worked in india for a bit, its very much a 3rd 2o4ld coutry, in ways alot of westan people would not belive, people living on the streets, very poor hygine etc, so im not suprised

And this is due to the government not looking after it's population which has led to things as bad as they are plus people lack of understanding

They are also exporting most of the world's vaccines. Which at best, is a bit ironic and at worst could result in a change of government. "

It's been long overdue for change that's why it's as bad as things are too much corruption

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

" And there by the grace of god ...and to think only a short while ago everyone was cheering or seemed to be the Governments pledge to cut the over seas aid budget ??

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

Good also point out the fact ..India was part of our Empire ?? and ..but i'm guessing that's way to many dots to join up ?? and only a short while ago weren't our Dearest Leaders praising the very same Government ( praising them in the vain attempt to get a trade deal and the praise heaped on their prime ministers head ) they are playing the blame game with???

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

It's not black and white... Like most of life it's shades of gray... Below a few items to reflect on...

The report said, "India's economy is the fifth largest in the world with a GDP of $2.94 trillion, overtaking the UK and France in 2019 to take the fifth spot". The UK economy amounts to $2.83 trillion and France with $2.71 trillion. ... Since 1995, the country's nominal GDP has jumped more than 700 per cent"

As was also the case in 2018, only five OECD member countries reached the UN target of spending 0.7 percent of gross national income on international development: Luxembourg, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and the UK. The average across OECD members is 0.3 percent.

The United States, Germany, and the UK were the largest donors in dollar terms, representing half the total. Despite periodic calls for reductions in aid from the White House, US aid spending dropped by only 0.4 percent.

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Although the UK does not technically send aid to India, in 2018 the Government announced plans to provide £98million to invest in technical enterprises over the next two years. Despite India being on course to become one of the third largest economies by 2030, the UK sent the money to help stimulate jobs in India. While underfunded research initiatives received the funding, the Indian government has announced the launch of the Shukrayaan orbiter.

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By *J swingCouple
over a year ago

North

Its amazing India have millions in money being spent on space technology, but they are not willing to sort out vacations for there own purpose, yet again they asked uk to bail them out .

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Its amazing India have millions in money being spent on space technology, but they are not willing to sort out vacations for there own purpose, yet again they asked uk to bail them out ."

We have millions to spend on trident yet have school kids going hungry.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

One thing people may not understand that to receive any kind of treatment in India you have to pay or loose out and I'm sure it's still ongoing with the virus

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By *elshcouple18Couple
over a year ago

Cardiff

"i worked in india for a bit, its very much a 3rd 2o4ld coutry, in ways alot of westan people would not belive, people living on the streets, very poor hygine etc, so im not suprised"
I hope you weren't teaching English over there!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to give some perspective on India. the population of India is 23x that of the UK. The UKs highest daily death toll for Covid was 1325, Indias would need to be 30475 to equate to that on a pro rata population basis. Currently they are only on 2624 deaths per day.

So no it is not getting out of hand. Just more fear porn from the news!!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Just to give some perspective on India. the population of India is 23x that of the UK. The UKs highest daily death toll for Covid was 1325, Indias would need to be 30475 to equate to that on a pro rata population basis. Currently they are only on 2624 deaths per day.

So no it is not getting out of hand. Just more fear porn from the news!! "

Apart from they are woefully undercounting the numbers of infected and dead. If you die in the streets or at home, especially if you're too poor to have been seen by any medical professional, you aren't being counted in India. I think the funeral pyres, which are a very clear outward example of the sudden jump in deaths, demonstrates that. Many medics in India are saying the same about under counting.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

So no it is not getting out of hand. Just more fear porn from the news!! "

Shush..people are trying to convince themselves we have handled it well here..do you mind!

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By *lack_BBCMan
over a year ago

INDIAN

I am in India now and situation is not that bad or wrose here as you are thinking. Hoping for the best

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

So no it is not getting out of hand. Just more fear porn from the news!!

Shush..people are trying to convince themselves we have handled it well here..do you mind!"

It's not a Contest to see who has the most deaths though is it? We are doing better.. India is not doing so well... We are helping a bit as I hope are others. Nobody wants the India or Brazil situations or what we had back in Dec and jan.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I am in India now and situation is not that bad or wrose here as you are thinking. Hoping for the best

If it's not that bad, why are multiple countries sending medical aid, why is the Indian Government ramping up oxygen production, why are people being turned away from hospitals and why are railway carriages, sports stadiums and other facilities being turned into makeshift treatment facilities? For fun?? What is being burnt on all the extra funeral pyres, if not additional dead people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bursting population, religious beliefs, poor sanitation and living standards. Make this an impossible fix. I dread to think how many will eventually die "

Now on news that real figures anything from 2x to 20x what is being reported. They only count hospital deaths. Sky reporter saw 100 bodies taken to a crematorium but the official only recorded 12....

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

"Bursting population, religious beliefs, poor sanitation and living standards. Make this an impossible fix. I dread to think how many will eventually die

Now on news that real figures anything from 2x to 20x what is being reported. They only count hospital deaths. Sky reporter saw 100 bodies taken to a crematorium but the official only recorded 12...."

Situation looks utterly hopeless tbh

Would take a million new health workers on the ground to make a dent in the figures.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

And to think a month or so ago they were playing international cricket to crowded stadia.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"I am in India now and situation is not that bad or wrose here as you are thinking. Hoping for the best

When a country is shipping in bulk containers of oxygen, when the death rate is being deliberately grossly under reported, when the price of any medication or anything associated with the issue has been allowed to be profiteered from to the score of ten times, when the reporting of the issue is blocked by the government then it's bad..

To say it's 'not bad' is either naive, ignorance or something sinister..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Bursting population, religious beliefs, poor sanitation and living standards. Make this an impossible fix. I dread to think how many will eventually die

Similar in just one facility in Uttar Pradesh, 94 bodies cremated and the state said only 3 were covid..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

India is a very complex place.. They have over 19000 languages to work through lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"And to think a month or so ago they were playing international cricket to crowded stadia. "

i don't think that's the cause tho .. its mostly always poverty related

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The rather huge elephant in the room - population control. Until we accept that there are a few billion too many of us ruining the planet and heading for destruction - then expect this to berepeated time and again.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

Reading this I do wonder how meany have travelled India

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The actual deaths per capita are much lower than the UK.

Recent politics and huge reduction of pricing for rural economy, of which 53% of the population live in the countryside, has dispossessed a huge number of people who have migrated to cities but this doesn’t explain the rise in cases which came six months later. New variant, possibly.

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By *ubal1Man
over a year ago

Newry Down

The amazing thing about India is that it functions; albeit extraordinarily chaotically.

It is astonishing that famine does not occur more frequently.

Crucially, administrative government is utterly disorganised; the rate of Covid infections is much much worse, as are the number of deaths, than being publicly reported.

It will remain the epicentre of Covid for a long time.

Consider the logistical nightmare of vaccinating 1,400,000,000 people, and the impossibility of locking down such a country.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"The rather huge elephant in the room - population control. Until we accept that there are a few billion too many of us ruining the planet and heading for destruction - then expect this to berepeated time and again. "

Careful the conspiracy theorists will start shouting “Agenda 21”

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

I read it somewhere that India will be holding large religious festivals, as some believe that angry gods have caused the virus to spread.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"I read it somewhere that India will be holding large religious festivals, as some believe that angry gods have caused the virus to spread. "

I am the god of hell fire and I bring you....

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"I read it somewhere that India will be holding large religious festivals, as some believe that angry gods have caused the virus to spread. "

No different from the moron's going to the pub I guess as alcohol is really good at times like this when a virus attacks the breathing apparatus

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By *igdog15Man
over a year ago

Bedhampton

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st"

Sure but it can still mean that we have surplus to our requirements that can help us save lives in India today, that we have no immediate need for here. We're not going to be sending all of our vaccines and all NHS assets.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st

I don't see why helping people in dire straits is in any way a bad thing.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st

We did, and we are.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st

We did, and we are. "

I think we're already pulling out all stops in the UK, and anyone worried about not doing enough in the UK is welcome to help themselves.

India is in an utterly desperate situation - and if nothing else, the variant potentially threatens us and all the work we've done, too.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Given there's one 'double mutation' in India potentially other variations will the longer it's running at the rate it is also be found..

It's a global issue to dampen it before the inferno it is there is everywhere..

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By *lder A Wiser Passion OP Woman
over a year ago

morecambe

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

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I bet you they dont

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

The vaccine does seem to be working for now so need to manufacture test distribute and administer best part of 5 million more doses of that plus boosters.

Lastly, for what it's worth... Thoughts and prayers to whatever being to help Brazil and India populations... It looks truly awful. "

Porous is putting it lightly.

There's more holes on our border control than a colander.

But you're right. I hope people don't start taking it lightly again and think that we've beaten the virus.

Need to stay on our toes.

I know a few people in India, and honestly...it's really heartbreaking to hear some of the stories.

Hope all countries suffering make it out of this period asap.

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By *igdog15Man
over a year ago

Bedhampton

"What's happening in India is tragic.

I hope the UK government sends any equipment that is surplus to our requirements to them.

Charity starts at home. Let’s get us sorted 1st

I don't see why helping people in dire straits is in any way a bad thing."

No but the likes of Africa who we do charity events for every year it hardly goes to the people that need it cause it’s all corrupt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reading this I do wonder how meany have travelled India "

Personal space just isn't something Indian people have the luxury of or understand.

Basic hygiene is often misunderstood and not practiced too.

Whatever money and resources that are being sent over there won't be going to the people that really need it.

Don't believe everything you see and read - especially if it's on the BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reading this I do wonder how meany have travelled India

Personal space just isn't something Indian people have the luxury of or understand.

Basic hygiene is often misunderstood and not practiced too.

Whatever money and resources that are being sent over there won't be going to the people that really need it.

Don't believe everything you see and read - especially if it's on the BBC"

Where will the money and resources go instead?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I wouldn't normally watch Andrew Marr. But just hopped on and surprisingly enough the topic was India and covid. While we twiddle our thumbs and trot out the usual bollocks about how there is no evidence it is dangerous blablabla and yet the Indian variant is killing 4k a day in India.. I'm not sure why there is even a discussion. I digress.

But the point was... Whilst we have a healthy scepticism of politicians and that the India trade deal delayed putting India on the Red list (what does that actually even mean? Given we have pretty much zero policing and enforcing of any of these rules... They may as well put them on the red carpet list.)

20k passengers from India arrived in the 4 days from April 19 to 23rd.

Bangladesh and Pakistan, with lower numbers had been put on the mythical red list 3 weeks previously.

Now I'm not one to call for resignations but some fucker better pay for this. Its scandalous.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Any theories why the daily new case figures for India have started to come down again so soon? I believed (and still do) that they are still a long way from herd immunity and I expected further weeks of cases doubling every few days. What’s changed?

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

It doesn't help when millions of idiots go to a river to worship fake gods and out themselves at risk. If you can't keep yourself safe and do the right thing then they shouldn't be receiving the help they currently are.

Same as aid for them. Billions sent to help poverty etc and yet they have their own nuclear program and space programs. Bollox to them is my attitude.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I wouldn't normally watch Andrew Marr. But just hopped on and surprisingly enough the topic was India and covid. While we twiddle our thumbs and trot out the usual bollocks about how there is no evidence it is dangerous blablabla and yet the Indian variant is killing 4k a day in India.. I'm not sure why there is even a discussion. I digress.

20k passengers from India arrived in the 4 days from April 19 to 23rd.

Bangladesh and Pakistan, with lower numbers had been put on the mythical red list 3 weeks previously.

Now I'm not one to call for resignations but some fucker better pay for this. Its scandalous. "

Accountability is overdue.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Reading this I do wonder how meany have travelled India

Personal space just isn't something Indian people have the luxury of or understand.

Basic hygiene is often misunderstood and not practiced too.

Whatever money and resources that are being sent over there won't be going to the people that really need it.

Don't believe everything you see and read - especially if it's on the BBC

Where will the money and resources go instead?"

I don't know - but the Needy rarely benefit.

It's a very corrupt place.

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

Why did they not close the Borders earlier with India, when they knew abput this variant. Boris and his crew are so incompetent. And now again pehaps everyone is going to suffer yet again with our daily lives.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

We're easing restrictions, when we should be keeping them.

You can see the writing on the wall.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And now the inept and clueless Government are allowing the Indian and Pakistan cricket teams to fly in this week to take part in the cricket tour

Unbelievable doesn’t cover it

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

"And now the inept and clueless Government are allowing the Indian and Pakistan cricket teams to fly in this week to take part in the cricket tour

Unbelievable doesn’t cover it "

I think inept and clueless people are far more to blame for the spread over the past 16 months than any government.

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over a year ago

" And there by the grace of god ...and to think only a short while ago everyone was cheering or seemed to be the Governments pledge to cut the over seas aid budget ??

the aid thing is odd, india has plenty of money, they just dont spend it on everyone, us giving them more doesnt help

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over a year ago

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Gov. source told Sunday Times: "Very clear we should have closed border to India earlier & Boris did not do so because he didn't want to offend Modi"

Sorry folks but there really are only two words to describe Boris Johnson.

1st = Incompetent

2nd = rhymes with runt

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Hancock has been fact checked by the bbc

A prize for anyone who can guess if he was telling the truth or not.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

" And there by the grace of god ...and to think only a short while ago everyone was cheering or seemed to be the Governments pledge to cut the over seas aid budget ??

the aid thing is odd, india has plenty of money, they just dont spend it on everyone, us giving them more doesnt help"

I think the idea that we simply give India money and nothing back in return, I find quite hard to believe.

No doubt there are plenty of deals going on behind the scenes.

I remember an Indian company belmg given a juicy gmnt contract a few years ago.

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over a year ago

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again"

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"Gov. source told Sunday Times: "Very clear we should have closed border to India earlier & Boris did not do so because he didn't want to offend Modi"

Sorry folks but there really are only two words to describe Boris Johnson.

1st = Incompetent

2nd = rhymes with runt "

Prat Handcock, stood up in the commons the other day slimming his way out of the lack of government action on India. Saying travel restrictions came in when they knew about the new variant. Complete bull. Should have put India on the red list same time as Pakistan and Bangladesh. But no, just because Boris is trying to set up a trade deal he is prepared to scupper the whole nations health and wellbeing again just to justified lies to the nation again. The bloke is just toxic to this country and population.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now. "

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now. "

Why do you think the govt want us in lockdown? What does the govt gain or anybody in govt gain from having the nation in lockdown?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

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Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

Why do you think the govt want us in lockdown? What does the govt gain or anybody in govt gain from having the nation in lockdown? "

In response to my post, somebody chose to send me a pm... Of a picture of something purporting to be about a new world order. Presumably because the phrase new world order has been bastardised in the same way as the word gay has been changed from meaning happy to meaning homosexual.

New World order... Curtis Mayfield was singing about this 30 years ago. And it wasn't anything sinister.

Its good that we have freedom of expression. But we need to be awake to those that would do us harm by using it.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

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over a year ago

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions. "

Cures like ivermectin have to be suppressed as they wouldn't be allowed to issue emergency covid vaccines if there is a cure alternative.

Money and politics are always a lot more important than saving lives.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"I've been in West Africa for the majority of the pandemic, and they have had a better reaction time in implementing restrictions than what the UK have.

Lagos is its own entity. I was moved fro VI to Ghana as the company policies changed.

I was supposed to return last month however there is a hold on STR's within our company.

Not complaining I could be back down PH lol"

Just sorting my visa will be heading to VI soon probably July just for 30 days initially , I’m actually excited missed the place , that airport, traffic on 3rd mainland bridge, where else can you do your weekly shopping out your car window......

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

A little late but here in support of some of the comments in this thread this article reporting on sage and other science behind our choices of border control...

Some snippets...

In Feb 21 50k passengers flew between UK and India.

On one day.. May 19th... 4 flights from India.. Now on red no fly list... Landed at Heathrow only (add other hubs Manchester, Glasgow etc for more flights)

Direct flights from many Red list countries are banned except for India Pakistan Bangladesh and Kenya.

Just under half of people with the India variant of concern in England had been travelling, according to a 13 May briefing from Public Health England.

One study found the virus was introduced to the UK "well over a thousand times in early 2020", with a third of transmission chains brought in from Spain, followed by 29% from France, neither of which faced any restrictions. China accounted for just 0.4% of imported cases.

At the end of February 2020, the World Health Organization (WHO) advised against travel bans, saying they were "usually not effective in preventing the importation of cases but may have a significant economic and social impact".

And regarding closing the borders it said...

It argued that by mid-March 2020 there was "significant transmission" in the UK and any extra travel restrictions at that time would have had a "very marginal" impact.

At a meeting in February 2020, the government advisory committee Sage suggested that cutting the number of infections entering the UK by half would only delay the epidemic by five days.

The scientists estimated that a 95% reduction in imported cases, which would have required "draconian" travel restrictions, would have pushed things back by a month.

But at its meeting in January 2021, Sage said: "No intervention, other than a complete, pre-emptive closure of borders, or the mandatory quarantine of all visitors upon arrival in designated facilities, irrespective of testing history, can get close to fully preventing the importation of cases or new variants."

In a game of marginal gains and risk mitigation it seems complete bollocks that on the one hand wearing a mask that reduces infections by percentages is recommended but reducing travel is not.... But hey I'm not a scientist.

The Full article can be found here...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55659926

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

Cures like ivermectin have to be suppressed as they wouldn't be allowed to issue emergency covid vaccines if there is a cure alternative.

Money and politics are always a lot more important than saving lives."

Right

. So why are countries with no financial skin in the vaccines paying for expensive vaccines if far far far cheaper Ivermectin works as well as you claim?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions. "

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read. "

Thanks, it is a good read. I wonder whether the ‘promoters’ will bother to read it, or if it will change their minds

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read.

Thanks, it is a good read. I wonder whether the ‘promoters’ will bother to read it, or if it will change their minds

Or whether they'll think that gavi... Have conspiratorially got some interest in discrediting non vaccine, cheaper, existing protocols?

I personally believe it but can't say it's from an unbiased source can we?

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

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Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read. "

Link not recognised for me? So cannot read article grrr!

I am not commenting on whether Ivermectin is good/bad solution as I don’t know enough. However, I would urge caution referencing GAVI as your only source as they will clearly have a pro-vaccine nothing else works agenda - simply by the nature of their reason to exist!

Might be worth seeking out a variety of sources to try and get a more balanced view.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It was an article originally posted on The Conversation (I got through), which is not, as far as I'm aware, particularly associated with vaccines.

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"It was an article originally posted on The Conversation (I got through), which is not, as far as I'm aware, particularly associated with vaccines."

Really hard when I can’t see it myself (weird) but if the article is supportive of the viewpoint of GAVI then that’s why they would link to it or republish. Doubt they would do the same if conclusions went against their position right?

As I say, not commenting on the medicine/drug etc only the referencing to sources with a single viewpoint.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read.

Link not recognised for me? So cannot read article grrr!

Might be worth seeking out a variety of sources to try and get a more balanced view."

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"It was an article originally posted on The Conversation (I got through), which is not, as far as I'm aware, particularly associated with vaccines."

The Conversation is an online area where professionals and researchers in a variety of fields can publish articles. It's often a very good source of "layman's" information and not just on Science topics.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Who thinks like me we not out of the woods yet

Could be 2025 before we are

so going to open this but before I do and again need to ask about quertine who thinks like we should be going over seas till we know it safe to once again

Nope the rates are falling massively over there since the introduction of Ivermectin and Hydroxy. Please just research some Indian sources to find this out.

Our lying piliticians are aiming to use this to lock us down yet again and remove our rights even further. This just has to stop now.

The evidence for HCQ and ivermectin is nil or negative

Not true. Ivermectin is being successfully used by millions.

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/ivermectin-why-potential-covid-treatment-isnt-recommended-use

Makes a good read.

Thanks, it is a good read. I wonder whether the ‘promoters’ will bother to read it, or if it will change their minds

Or whether they'll think that gavi... Have conspiratorially got some interest in discrediting non vaccine, cheaper, existing protocols?

I personally believe it but can't say it's from an unbiased source can we? "

Exactly. The vaccines would have only gotten emergency approval if there was no viable treatment approved and Ivermectin is indeed being used with apparent great success in several poor countries, It has a known safety record of decades, so they are not risking their patients in running field trials, especially once infected.

Medicine often makes advances out in the field 'where the rubber hits the road' years before the academics finally catch up.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg"

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true. "

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

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over a year ago

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Well watched it, and..........

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?"

Is English not your first language?

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?"

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

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By *ajobMan
over a year ago

Newtownabbey

Dr jon campbell updates are a good watch....def full of good up to date information from him and other folk through out the world

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying. "

Please feel free to clarify?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?"

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own. "

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

Oh dear

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand. "

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't."

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?"

Why, are you racist?

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

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By *astlincscoupleCouple
over a year ago

Tinsel Town

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?"

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all."

Yet here you are.

Your previous comments were offence, obviously not only to me.

Now you are playing tit for tat trying to justify it.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all.

Yet here you are.

Your previous comments were offence, obviously not only to me.

Now you are playing tit for tat trying to justify it.

Nope, merely stating the truth. You wanna make facetious remarks, you should expect them back.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all.

Yet here you are.

Your previous comments were offence, obviously not only to me.

Now you are playing tit for tat trying to justify it.

Nope, merely stating the truth. You wanna make facetious remarks, you should expect them back."

Facetious yes, racist and offensive no.

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all.

Yet here you are.

Your previous comments were offence, obviously not only to me.

Now you are playing tit for tat trying to justify it.

Nope, merely stating the truth. You wanna make facetious remarks, you should expect them back.

Facetious yes, racist and offensive no.

You're just bullshitting.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Why are you so aggressive and rude to people?

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

From what I read Ivermectin has been show to inhibit covid19 in in vitro experiments.. at concentrations equal to 100 times the human approved dose... much like alcohol would inhibit Covid in vitro at sufficient concentration... perhaps we should just all get well pissed once a week?

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Someone messaged me and pointed out the excellent videos including this summary of Dr Lawrie's work on Ivermectin from Dr Jon Campbell who seems very sensible and logical and is a good communicator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix8i7dfsCJg

If its on YouTube then it must be true.

It's an idiot guide for sex site members - take a look, you might learn something.

Are saying people are idiots for not watching it?

Is English not your first language?

No it's not. So twice with the attacks now

Ah ok. So no, that's not what I'm saying.

Please feel free to clarify?

Nah, my cost benefit analysis suggests it's not worth my while, so you'll just have to ponder on your own.

So it was a direct attack calling me and idiot the making fun because my first language is not English.

No. You misunderstand.

No I don't. I asked you to clarify and you replied with a sarcastic comment.

I see it as deliberately making fun out of myself and others who's first language is not English.

No you don't.

Do you think it's ok to be racist?

Why, are you racist?

You made fun of someone because they couldn't speak good English.

Now you are being pedantic because you are being called out for it.

You are incorrect. I answered someone's facetious remark with a sarcastic one - my fault was in bothering to reply at all.

Yet here you are.

Your previous comments were offence, obviously not only to me.

Now you are playing tit for tat trying to justify it.

Nope, merely stating the truth. You wanna make facetious remarks, you should expect them back.

Facetious yes, racist and offensive no.

You're just bullshitting."

No. I'm not unfortunately.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"From what I read Ivermectin has been show to inhibit covid19 in in vitro experiments.. at concentrations equal to 100 times the human approved dose... much like alcohol would inhibit Covid in vitro at sufficient concentration... perhaps we should just all get well pissed once a week?

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

I've been getting pissed once a week for months, can confirm, it works, I haven't had covid!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

I've been getting pissed once a week for months, can confirm, it works, I haven't had covid!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

I've been getting pissed once a week for months, can confirm, it works, I haven't had covid!

Do I get a Nobel Prize?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

I've been getting pissed once a week for months, can confirm, it works, I haven't had covid!

Do I get a Nobel Prize? "

Absolutely

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

The side effect profile for ivermectin isn’t any more appealing than those of the vaccines either!

I've been getting pissed once a week for months, can confirm, it works, I haven't had covid!

Do I get a Nobel Prize?

Absolutely"

Score!

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