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"Seeing as I can't even hug my own children yet I'm damned if I'm going to touch a stranger" It's occurred to me that casual sex is more attainable to me than hugging my parents | |||
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"I've been asked this a lot. I don't know when that date will be. And even when I do feel comfortable, there are far too many friends and family members I want to see before someone from Fab. " This totally | |||
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"Seeing as I can't even hug my own children yet I'm damned if I'm going to touch a stranger It's occurred to me that casual sex is more attainable to me than hugging my parents " Right? I could get laid today if I wanted to (I don’t), but I can’t see my mum. | |||
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"I don’t understand why people still think there’s flexibility in this. When the law changes and social distancing is removed will be the time when people can plan on meeting for sex. " 100% this | |||
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"Covid is exponentially easier to catch than HIV and potentially more devastating. Anyone wanting to take the risk now should understand that. " STI's and covid will be rife. People out shagging everything that moves. No sex here for the foreseeable future. | |||
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"I don’t understand why people still think there’s flexibility in this. When the law changes and social distancing is removed will be the time when people can plan on meeting for sex. " Because they want the answer to be ten o clock tonight... | |||
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"I don’t understand why people still think there’s flexibility in this. When the law changes and social distancing is removed will be the time when people can plan on meeting for sex. " | |||
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"Seeing as I can't even hug my own children yet I'm damned if I'm going to touch a stranger It's occurred to me that casual sex is more attainable to me than hugging my parents Right? I could get laid today if I wanted to (I don’t), but I can’t see my mum." I mean, when it's legal. The logistics of seeing my parents (Australia, so both UK and Australia regarding each other as safe, plus any refueling destination regarded as safe by both) is like... 2022 at the earliest. (I believe the UK is listed by the Australian government as being the same level of dangerousness which is normally reserved for North Korea. A year ago even New Zealand got that designation and I was shook) | |||
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"Seeing as I can't even hug my own children yet I'm damned if I'm going to touch a stranger It's occurred to me that casual sex is more attainable to me than hugging my parents Right? I could get laid today if I wanted to (I don’t), but I can’t see my mum. I mean, when it's legal. The logistics of seeing my parents (Australia, so both UK and Australia regarding each other as safe, plus any refueling destination regarded as safe by both) is like... 2022 at the earliest. (I believe the UK is listed by the Australian government as being the same level of dangerousness which is normally reserved for North Korea. A year ago even New Zealand got that designation and I was shook)" My family is in Ireland, so not as difficult as it is for you, but still not just popping to the next town over. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init" Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init" Not really. We just think with our big brain | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init" Sadly yes some are! I know of older people older than me ha ha that have decided they never leaving their homes again!?? so sad x | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit" Each to there own, value is subjective I guess | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Sadly yes some are! I know of older people older than me ha ha that have decided they never leaving their homes again!?? so sad x" Really sad how much this pandemic has impacted a lot of people's mental health. Just hope confidence can grow back over time. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess " Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? | |||
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"I've received both jabs, which was a prerequisite. But I won't be looking to attend clubs or meet anyone until it's legal, and until they have been jabbed too. Prevalence of cases must be low and we'd likely chat about risk factors such as how many other people we'd both met, if we have spouses/partners who are meeting others. In time I'm sure I'll be less cautious but I don't ever see myself having sex with someone who isn't vaccinated or medically exempt." This ^^^ | |||
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" In time I'm sure I'll be less cautious but I don't ever see myself having sex with someone who isn't vaccinated or medically exempt." Yes, hard pass. | |||
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"When it's legal. When I have had both vaccinations. When my close family have had both vaccinations. I don't consider myself unreasonably fearful, but I am clinically vulnerable and have high risk people in my bubble. It's not fair to put others at risk for casual sex." I do community work and I value the people I serve over my libido. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess " Yes and relative to our development frame. Not all values are equal though. Egocentric values are not as valuable as Ethnocentric, that are not as valuable as Worldcentric, that are not as valuable as Cosmocentric. We can all evolve beyond the most primitive values if we choose. | |||
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"When it's legal. When I have had both vaccinations. When my close family have had both vaccinations. I don't consider myself unreasonably fearful, but I am clinically vulnerable and have high risk people in my bubble. It's not fair to put others at risk for casual sex." This. I have gone over a year without kissing someone I'm deeply in love with because she's extremely vulnerable and gets hospitalised with colds....covid would kill her, without any doubt. I'm also not going to put my cousin, who has just had major surgery and will have ongoing treatment for cancer, an risk. Or my nigh on 80 year old mother. An orgasm or even a great sexual experience isn't worth that risk. I work in a school and I don't especially want to put mi colleagues or the kids here at risk either. So I'll probably not be rushing to the clubs in late June. But quite likely before the end of the year if things continue to improve. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? " Bold of you to assume I have a family | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family " OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Sadly yes some are! I know of older people older than me ha ha that have decided they never leaving their homes again!?? so sad x Really sad how much this pandemic has impacted a lot of people's mental health. Just hope confidence can grow back over time. " I know very sad! We need to just get on after 21st june! But sadly for some they will never regain that confidence to live again rather than excist! Know which I would choose! I've even seen some saying they will only meet with vaccinated! each to their own I suppose! X | |||
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"I find it bemusing that community minder is misconstrued as fear." Mindedness Auto carrot | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy " So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. " True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. " Protecting others against our own interests and desires is the opposite of fear. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. " Feel free to assume it’s just when you do you make a (ass) of (u) and (me) Whether you find my attitude shitty or not is up to you doesn’t change the fact people are scared stiff during this time. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. Protecting others against our own interests and desires is the opposite of fear." Lol | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. Feel free to assume it’s just when you do you make a (ass) of (u) and (me) Whether you find my attitude shitty or not is up to you doesn’t change the fact people are scared stiff during this time. " I'm not scared stiff,I'm just not stupid. | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Wow so if you brought it back to a family member you'd be OK telling them it was worth it cos you got your dick wet? Bold of you to assume I have a family OK... Friends then, people you care about.... Oh wait, you probably don't have any of those just so you can seem edgy So much assuming without knowing your just throwing things out there lol. How have I tried to seem ‘edgy’? People I care for could all be vaccinated for all you know, what would be the issue then? I’m sure you’ll find one. True. They could be. I'll assume (again) that right now they have not had both jabs. Just find your attitude towards those who are following the guidelines as scared stiff pretty shitty to be honest when in fact we are looking after those we care about rather than our own selfish needs. Feel free to assume it’s just when you do you make a (ass) of (u) and (me) Whether you find my attitude shitty or not is up to you doesn’t change the fact people are scared stiff during this time. " Your not wrong some are actually scared stiff! My daughter has a gardening business and 2 of her clients are never going out again ever! One his choice being to scared the other scared by his family which I find even sader! But one little lady just wants to get out there! She is a feisty lovely lady in her 90s! Have been out on garden visits with her pre covid! She is adorable! X | |||
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"We can still protect people by putting ourselves into a 2 week quarantine before we meet them. I do this for my elderly mother even though we have both been vaccinated. I work from home so it may not be as possible for those who don't. " Sod that not one single fab shag is worth two weeks of me not seeing friends and family outside. | |||
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"It's currently at the levels of flu, for deaths, which is good to hear that measure - but covid is much worse, leaving longer term problems for people. In a couple of months it should be safer, if the government are guided by the data. So I'm thinking later summer but it's too early to plan yet. " I got an email recently suggesting that 1.1 million people in the UK are suffering from long Covid. I just... It doesn't bear thinking about. | |||
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"Covid "over"? Will it ever be ??" I think at some stage it'll be a similar threat to measles or the flu. | |||
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"You see the above still on most people's profiles, curious to know, at what point are you deeming us to be after Covid? What has to have happened? Your 2nd jab, their 2nd jab? Cases at lower levels than now? Clubs re-open as per guidelines? Curious and asking for a friend of course " My guess would be,when that individual or couple deems it safe to meet. Untill then,respect their wishes,it's their fab life,how they conduct it is up to them. | |||
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"Seeing as I can't even hug my own children yet I'm damned if I'm going to touch a stranger" This exactly xx | |||
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"I've put im not meeting till I've had full vaccine, I've had people telling me I'm being stupid and that I'm using it as a excuse or being told that I'll be waiting a long time because I'm 29. People think it's funny I'm wait till im fully vaccinated and think its acceptable to mock me over it" Funny how personal choice is only sacrosanct when it's not in favour of public health | |||
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"Lol people are scared stiff init Lots of people are valuing responsibility over orgasms innit Each to there own, value is subjective I guess Yes and relative to our development frame. Not all values are equal though. Egocentric values are not as valuable as Ethnocentric, that are not as valuable as Worldcentric, that are not as valuable as Cosmocentric. We can all evolve beyond the most primitive values if we choose." Not to mention egotistical Lol | |||
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"Never! I’m thinking that I’m never going to have casual encounters ever again. I’ve received so many selfish messages over the course of the pandemic that it’s left a bad taste in my mouth. I’m probably only ever gonna meet my current friends, as I can trust them. X" That’s probably just cum | |||
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"There’s the small matter of the law to consider as well." The law wil lag behind reality | |||
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"When fab remove the COVID-19 report button then it be friends only to start with" Your living your life through when fab makes decisions?? | |||
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"Once all restrictions lifted will maybe, maybe start to drift along to a local pub. Try an afternoon drink at first. The thought of going into a bustling pub on a Friday/Saturday night is a bit overwhelming at present. So we will be taking it slowly at first, see how it goes." I had a coffee, sitting on the grass outside my gym today. That was nice | |||
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"Once all restrictions lifted will maybe, maybe start to drift along to a local pub. Try an afternoon drink at first. The thought of going into a bustling pub on a Friday/Saturday night is a bit overwhelming at present. So we will be taking it slowly at first, see how it goes." If you can go midweek afternoons very pleasant in the sun,not busy round here | |||
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"Once all restrictions lifted will maybe, maybe start to drift along to a local pub. Try an afternoon drink at first. The thought of going into a bustling pub on a Friday/Saturday night is a bit overwhelming at present. So we will be taking it slowly at first, see how it goes.If you can go midweek afternoons very pleasant in the sun,not busy round here" I overlook a pub. Heaving since it reopened | |||
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"Once all restrictions lifted will maybe, maybe start to drift along to a local pub. Try an afternoon drink at first. The thought of going into a bustling pub on a Friday/Saturday night is a bit overwhelming at present. So we will be taking it slowly at first, see how it goes.If you can go midweek afternoons very pleasant in the sun,not busy round here I overlook a pub. Heaving since it reopened " Will play it by ear, saw a nice pub in Chester with new outdoor space, give that a whirl. Once summer shows up, a weekend in Barmouth, on the nude beach. | |||
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"I've received both jabs, which was a prerequisite. But I won't be looking to attend clubs or meet anyone until it's legal, and until they have been jabbed too. Prevalence of cases must be low and we'd likely chat about risk factors such as how many other people we'd both met, if we have spouses/partners who are meeting others. In time I'm sure I'll be less cautious but I don't ever see myself having sex with someone who isn't vaccinated or medically exempt." Congrats on both vaccinations. What was the secret to getting them both so early? | |||
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"I've been asked this a lot. I don't know when that date will be. And even when I do feel comfortable, there are far too many friends and family members I want to see before someone from Fab. " This exactly x | |||
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"I've received both jabs, which was a prerequisite. But I won't be looking to attend clubs or meet anyone until it's legal, and until they have been jabbed too. Prevalence of cases must be low and we'd likely chat about risk factors such as how many other people we'd both met, if we have spouses/partners who are meeting others. In time I'm sure I'll be less cautious but I don't ever see myself having sex with someone who isn't vaccinated or medically exempt. Congrats on both vaccinations. What was the secret to getting them both so early?" Being old helps lol | |||
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"There’s the small matter of the law to consider as well." That hasn't stopped people so far. Just looking at the local updates, not to mention the webcams and photo section. | |||
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" Congrats on both vaccinations. What was the secret to getting them both so early?" Partly luck, I know several people in my area who have had both jabs. Things are really moving fast. Partly because I'm part time carer for someone on the Clinically Extremely Vulnerable shielding list. Partly because I was unexpectedly declared CEV myself in February. Then luck, my GP arranged the second jab just five weeks after the first. So I've been double Pfizered. No ill-effects. | |||
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"We are meeting soon as , less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid , message us you sexy couples " One of the few sensible posts I've seen on this thread. If people don't want to meet its their choice but sick of seeing people being preachy against those who do. | |||
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"less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid " So you admit that Covid is more dangerous than traffic accidents? And you can’t catch an RTA off someone you meet either. | |||
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"We are meeting soon as , less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid , message us you sexy couples One of the few sensible posts I've seen on this thread. If people don't want to meet its their choice but sick of seeing people being preachy against those who do." Personally sick of seeing people being so entitled, selfish, and wilfully ignorant. Which bit of "highly contagious global pandemic with limited protection" do you not quite get after a year of it? | |||
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"less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid So you admit that Covid is more dangerous than traffic accidents? And you can’t catch an RTA off someone you meet either." | |||
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"less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid So you admit that Covid is more dangerous than traffic accidents? And you can’t catch an RTA off someone you meet either." Bore off | |||
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"less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid So you admit that Covid is more dangerous than traffic accidents? And you can’t catch an RTA off someone you meet either. Bore off " You kinda did say that though. | |||
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"We are meeting soon as , less chance Of being killed in a road accident than Covid , message us you sexy couples " Agreed! Let us make our own decisions! Those who want to stay shut away once we are free to meet let them! And those of us that dont let us get on with things so many judgy people around! X | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x" Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X" This year has shown that people are very bad at making their own decisions. This is why we have government. | |||
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"You see the above still on most people's profiles, curious to know, at what point are you deeming us to be after Covid? What has to have happened? Your 2nd jab, their 2nd jab? Cases at lower levels than now? Clubs re-open as per guidelines? Curious and asking for a friend of course " It's a personal risk assessment, along with gov guidance and as such a movable feast. For me probably not until late summer I suspect | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X This year has shown that people are very bad at making their own decisions. This is why we have government." But the government consistently make bad decisions and have to apologise after lol | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X This year has shown that people are very bad at making their own decisions. This is why we have government. But the government consistently make bad decisions and have to apologise after lol " Well, yes. But the idea that we should let people just do what they like is mind boggling. | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X This year has shown that people are very bad at making their own decisions. This is why we have government. But the government consistently make bad decisions and have to apologise after lol Well, yes. But the idea that we should let people just do what they like is mind boggling. " But that's how it has to b after june! X | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X" Well you crack on. Just remember, the vaccinations don’t stop you from catching or spreading CV. | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X Well you crack on. Just remember, the vaccinations don’t stop you from catching or spreading CV. " Of course I think everyone knows that ! X | |||
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"Is Covid just going to disappear in June then? Has it received a memo? As I’ve said before, my mum ended up hospitalised with CV at Christmas and is only just well enough to go back to work. And T has had a stem cell transplant following cancer treatment. We’re in no rush to meet anyone even though we both have our 2nd vaccines this week. J x Yes got my second this week! And once end of june comes and restrictions are lifted then will b back out there! How long shd we wait ? End of year ? Next june? June after! At end of day people must make their own decisions! X This year has shown that people are very bad at making their own decisions. This is why we have government. But the government consistently make bad decisions and have to apologise after lol Well, yes. But the idea that we should let people just do what they like is mind boggling. But that's how it has to b after june! X" I'm not sure that's the case at all. If things go well then business restrictions will end. Data not dates. | |||
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"When we feel comfortable. We both have our 2nd jabs in the next fortnight but it doesn’t stop you getting CV or passing it on J x" So why have it? Asking for a friend | |||
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"I've been asked this a lot. I don't know when that date will be. And even when I do feel comfortable, there are far too many friends and family members I want to see before someone from Fab. This exactly x " This | |||
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"When we feel comfortable. We both have our 2nd jabs in the next fortnight but it doesn’t stop you getting CV or passing it on J x So why have it? Asking for a friend " Because it almost eliminates hospitalisation or death, and (data still coming) radically reduces the chance of any illness with Covid and indeed passing it on. | |||
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"When we feel comfortable. We both have our 2nd jabs in the next fortnight but it doesn’t stop you getting CV or passing it on J x So why have it? Asking for a friend Because it almost eliminates hospitalisation or death, and (data still coming) radically reduces the chance of any illness with Covid and indeed passing it on." Not only this, some people are unable to have the vaccine due to medical issues, by having the vaccine, you are also protecting vulnerable people that can't have it. | |||
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"When we feel comfortable. We both have our 2nd jabs in the next fortnight but it doesn’t stop you getting CV or passing it on J x So why have it? Asking for a friend Because it almost eliminates hospitalisation or death, and (data still coming) radically reduces the chance of any illness with Covid and indeed passing it on. Not only this, some people are unable to have the vaccine due to medical issues, by having the vaccine, you are also protecting vulnerable people that can't have it. " Yup | |||
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"Some people seem to fall into the same trap as those who say "condoms aren't 100% effective so I won't use them". No vaccine in the history of medicine is 100% effective. Not smallpox, not BCG, not polio....but do we have rampant smallpox, TB and polio? No. Because the vaccines are highly effective, and vastly reduce the chance of getting the illness, and of passing it on if you do get it. Same with the covid vaccines. They vastly reduce your chances of catching it if you are exposed. It is now two weeks since I received my 2nd Pfizer jab. All the evidence shows now that even if I am exposed to a decent amount of the virus, my chances of actually "catching" Covid are reduced by 70-90%. If I then do get the illness, my chances of dying are reduced by 98%. My chances of getting hospitalised are reduced by 95%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is not vaccinated are reduced by over 60%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is fully vaccinated are reduced by 90%. So it's not difficult to see that while this won't eradicate Covid, it will *drastically* reduce transmission in our towns and cities, make all activities much safer. The aim was never to eradicate Covid, but to drastically suppress it so that it becomes like flu...a disease which remains deadly for some but which we accept. For swingers, who presumably want to go to clubs and parties...and be in close contact with others including sex, hugs, kisses etc...it ought to be pretty obvious that vaccines are the answer. And yes, we're also protecting those who cannot take these vaccines on medical advice. They will almost certainly additionally have health conditions which make Covid a big problem should they get ill, and at present there is no safe vaccine for them. I personally know just one person in this position but she organises socials, and she can't do that and be safe herself until there's *very* low amounts of this virus about. The proof is really Israel, the only country ahead of the UK in the vaccine stakes....they just recorded zero covid deaths in a day for the first time since the pandemic hit. The data coming from Israel and the UK is showing even better reduction in transmission of the virus than we expected/hoped. We won't eradicate it but we can keep it at very low prevelence. TL:DR...the vaccines do seriously reduce transmission and chances of getting covid...and if you are unlucky enough to get it, they drastically improve your "covid experience"." Great post | |||
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"Some people seem to fall into the same trap as those who say "condoms aren't 100% effective so I won't use them". No vaccine in the history of medicine is 100% effective. Not smallpox, not BCG, not polio....but do we have rampant smallpox, TB and polio? No. Because the vaccines are highly effective, and vastly reduce the chance of getting the illness, and of passing it on if you do get it. Same with the covid vaccines. They vastly reduce your chances of catching it if you are exposed. It is now two weeks since I received my 2nd Pfizer jab. All the evidence shows now that even if I am exposed to a decent amount of the virus, my chances of actually "catching" Covid are reduced by 70-90%. If I then do get the illness, my chances of dying are reduced by 98%. My chances of getting hospitalised are reduced by 95%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is not vaccinated are reduced by over 60%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is fully vaccinated are reduced by 90%. So it's not difficult to see that while this won't eradicate Covid, it will *drastically* reduce transmission in our towns and cities, make all activities much safer. The aim was never to eradicate Covid, but to drastically suppress it so that it becomes like flu...a disease which remains deadly for some but which we accept. For swingers, who presumably want to go to clubs and parties...and be in close contact with others including sex, hugs, kisses etc...it ought to be pretty obvious that vaccines are the answer. And yes, we're also protecting those who cannot take these vaccines on medical advice. They will almost certainly additionally have health conditions which make Covid a big problem should they get ill, and at present there is no safe vaccine for them. I personally know just one person in this position but she organises socials, and she can't do that and be safe herself until there's *very* low amounts of this virus about. The proof is really Israel, the only country ahead of the UK in the vaccine stakes....they just recorded zero covid deaths in a day for the first time since the pandemic hit. The data coming from Israel and the UK is showing even better reduction in transmission of the virus than we expected/hoped. We won't eradicate it but we can keep it at very low prevelence. TL:DR...the vaccines do seriously reduce transmission and chances of getting covid...and if you are unlucky enough to get it, they drastically improve your "covid experience"." Brilliant post, unfortunately the inherently selfish people who show themselves on these threads won’t (or maybe can’t) actually read that many words in one go... | |||
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"Some people seem to fall into the same trap as those who say "condoms aren't 100% effective so I won't use them". No vaccine in the history of medicine is 100% effective. Not smallpox, not BCG, not polio....but do we have rampant smallpox, TB and polio? No. Because the vaccines are highly effective, and vastly reduce the chance of getting the illness, and of passing it on if you do get it. Same with the covid vaccines. They vastly reduce your chances of catching it if you are exposed. It is now two weeks since I received my 2nd Pfizer jab. All the evidence shows now that even if I am exposed to a decent amount of the virus, my chances of actually "catching" Covid are reduced by 70-90%. If I then do get the illness, my chances of dying are reduced by 98%. My chances of getting hospitalised are reduced by 95%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is not vaccinated are reduced by over 60%. My chances of passing it onto someone who is fully vaccinated are reduced by 90%. So it's not difficult to see that while this won't eradicate Covid, it will *drastically* reduce transmission in our towns and cities, make all activities much safer. The aim was never to eradicate Covid, but to drastically suppress it so that it becomes like flu...a disease which remains deadly for some but which we accept. For swingers, who presumably want to go to clubs and parties...and be in close contact with others including sex, hugs, kisses etc...it ought to be pretty obvious that vaccines are the answer. And yes, we're also protecting those who cannot take these vaccines on medical advice. They will almost certainly additionally have health conditions which make Covid a big problem should they get ill, and at present there is no safe vaccine for them. I personally know just one person in this position but she organises socials, and she can't do that and be safe herself until there's *very* low amounts of this virus about. The proof is really Israel, the only country ahead of the UK in the vaccine stakes....they just recorded zero covid deaths in a day for the first time since the pandemic hit. The data coming from Israel and the UK is showing even better reduction in transmission of the virus than we expected/hoped. We won't eradicate it but we can keep it at very low prevelence. TL:DR...the vaccines do seriously reduce transmission and chances of getting covid...and if you are unlucky enough to get it, they drastically improve your "covid experience". Brilliant post, unfortunately the inherently selfish people who show themselves on these threads won’t (or maybe can’t) actually read that many words in one go... " | |||
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"Excellent post thank you for sharing ..I'm not meeting till I'm ready all jabbed up ,or even further down the line , until I'm able to visit my mum again my dad passed two yrs ago and she has struggled mentally grieving and the loneliness of covid as well ,sticking to the sheilding rules ,when I have my second I'm going to go and get a hug..x" Pleasure mi duk x | |||
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"I can't imagine how Covid could be more devastating than HIV? " We have treatment for HIV. Also, I can choose not to have unprotected sex with random people, which reduces my chances of getting HIV significantly. I can't choose not to breathe the same air as random strangers. | |||
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"I can't imagine how Covid could be more devastating than HIV? " Oh dear lord, they are two totally different illnesses, they cannot be compared at all. | |||
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"The level of covid infected people is very near as low as it’s going to get in this country, at approximately 25 per 100,000 people on average, it’s about 50 per 100,000 around my local area. Once pubs, restaurants and large gatherings start taking place, especially the return of students to university, the number of cases will inevitably increase, the monitoring of this rate of increase is the reason for Boris putting 5 weeks between steps. Vaccines are going to make a big difference to how ill you get if you get covid, the government is not too concerned over how many infections there are, it’s how many require hospital intervention that concerns them, as long as hospitalisation rates stay within reason they will continue to open up the country. In a normal year around 15,000 people die from influenza, covid, if we are successful in controlling it will be just another respiratory disease to be aware of...." That's the hope. I'm not taking my chances, personally, until after I'm fully vaccinated, and probably not until after all adults have been fully vaccinated. | |||
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"So many people still,confused Yet still do as they please X" Common sense has become a rarity post Covid | |||
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"So many people still,confused Yet still do as they please X Common sense has become a rarity post Covid " I have common sense enough to make my own mind up! Once restrictions are lifted! Some people just like to b negative I suppose! X | |||
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"When fab remove the COVID-19 report button then it be friends only to start with" same here | |||
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"You see the above still on most people's profiles, curious to know, at what point are you deeming us to be after Covid? What has to have happened? Your 2nd jab, their 2nd jab? Cases at lower levels than now? Clubs re-open as per guidelines? Curious and asking for a friend of course " Covid won’t go away for many years so... | |||
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"There is no "after covid" Theres a reason they called it "the new normal" "Build back better" from the start. Turn off the TV take off the mask (the UK gov have no evidence they help still unless your symptomatic - check ou the FOI Reference: FOI2020/18048 with the cabinet office dated 3rd Dec 2020 admitting this, they didnt even do a risk assessment on long term mask wearing) once your no longer afraid, you'll feel a lot better & think straight & those are the 1st two steps. Its time to get on with life." That’s a very sensible advice ,you having nothing to fear except fear itself | |||
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"There is no "after covid" Theres a reason they called it "the new normal" "Build back better" from the start. Turn off the TV take off the mask (the UK gov have no evidence they help still unless your symptomatic - check ou the FOI Reference: FOI2020/18048 with the cabinet office dated 3rd Dec 2020 admitting this, they didnt even do a risk assessment on long term mask wearing) once your no longer afraid, you'll feel a lot better & think straight & those are the 1st two steps. Its time to get on with life." Tbh I've never been afraid! Just stuck to the rules even if I think some of them mad x | |||
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