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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The church isn't unfamiliar with creating chaos though.

They're possibly trying to create some relevance today, knowing that there's fairly widespread opposition to the idea.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

A vaccine passport doesn't enable spying or control. If everyone is vaccinated or exempt there will only be one tier.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?"

Charlotte ?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?"

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere..

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


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All of them have clubbed together..

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At Angels - Melksham ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere.. "

Think they're following Jesus... he never kept out of politics.

#ragingsocialist

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere.. "

Great thing about living here is anyone can comment on whatever they like i happen to agree with them about the passports.when i get invited for a jab i will have it but i will not be having a vax passport

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By *orders CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Kelso


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere.. "

Amen

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's."

Salad perhaps?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts.. "

When I was a kid I used to respect the church.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Salad perhaps?"

Refer to the gospels

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The Church, in my opinion, should leave the running of the country to the politicians, the interference by the Church is not required, they should be looking at their own problems

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

"

Irony ???

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's."

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The church as we know it is near extinction and the current census will expose the decline. They are one of the richest organisations yet always bleating about the church roof fund and asking us to donate to feed the poor when they alone could feed the poor. People in church are coming to realise that there are new gods on the block now.

Social Media, Reality TV, Apple and designer clothes. All of these are worshipped by the masses more than they worship the church..

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!"

Fortunately it's a metaphor these days

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!

Fortunately it's a metaphor these days "

I don't know if he has realised that yet, he IS obsessed with Latin so please don't encourage him

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!

Fortunately it's a metaphor these days

I don't know if he has realised that yet, he IS obsessed with Latin so please don't encourage him"

... I'm pretty obsessed with the classics too, don't judge me

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The church as we know it is near extinction and the current census will expose the decline. They are one of the richest organisations yet always bleating about the church roof fund and asking us to donate to feed the poor when they alone could feed the poor. People in church are coming to realise that there are new gods on the block now.

Social Media, Reality TV, Apple and designer clothes. All of these are worshipped by the masses more than they worship the church.."

You're probably right. Sadly the gospel according to St boohoo or Simon Cowell and apples new parthenon app will not still be being worshipped in 2000 years time. Quicker and easier is not always better.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!

Fortunately it's a metaphor these days

I don't know if he has realised that yet, he IS obsessed with Latin so please don't encourage him

... I'm pretty obsessed with the classics too, don't judge me "

I won't just so long as never you promise not to start demanding sacrifices or gladiatorial contests in your honour!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"They should leave to Caesar that which is Caesar's.

Don't say that too loudly, Boris may start wanting us to refer to him as Emperor!

Fortunately it's a metaphor these days

I don't know if he has realised that yet, he IS obsessed with Latin so please don't encourage him

... I'm pretty obsessed with the classics too, don't judge me

I won't just so long as never you promise not to start demanding sacrifices or gladiatorial contests in your honour!"

Don't judge my cosplay dude

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


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Don't judge my cosplay dude "

I have you down as Adepta Sororitas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A vaccine passport doesn't enable spying or control. If everyone is vaccinated or exempt there will only be one tier."

this is what i was thinking , what spying can they do ? just if you had the vaccine or not which is already connected to your CHI number

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere.. "

it will be a cold day in hell before the “churches” club together

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere..

it will be a cold day in hell before the “churches” club together "
the only thing the "churches" agree on is the brushing of sexual abuse under the carpet and turning a blind eye.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I think you also need to distinguish between the author of the letter, and the congregants of any church. Who will very likely have nuanced or entirely different opinions but the over riding one I suspect is whatever they consider keeps them and theirs healthy wealthy and wise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere..

it will be a cold day in hell before the “churches” club together the only thing the "churches" agree on is the brushing of sexual abuse under the carpet and turning a blind eye. "

ive finally found the link between football and religion that they all seem to be obsessed with in scotland its all despicable

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts.. "

Churches generally tend to disagree with each other.. So this is a bit difficult to believe..

Though there is maybe a general agreement between every church that creating an obvious ' have not' social underclass may not be a good idea.That usually involves £ at the root of any decision making etc

However, again because the advantages of getting some kind of proof of being healthy far outweighs ' winging it' as strategy I can't see the church saying that..

This has nothing to do with people being poor? Tests are provided free? And are I believe due to be made cheaper for international travel etc..

The fact that A big family can't go and sun themselves on the Costa for a fortnight as it may incur some charges in my opinion isn't creating any form of underclass.. Let's face it booze, fags, , dodgy label sportswear and the like seems easy to find so why not a few quid to add for security checks?

It's not going to make much difference at all

Sorry OP but I think your post is maybe a bit false.. The church wouldn't say anything like that.. Unless they didn't understand the situation

And that's entirely possible I suppose as they have a past history of doing that for sure..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

Churches generally tend to disagree with each other.. So this is a bit difficult to believe..

Though there is maybe a general agreement between every church that creating an obvious ' have not' social underclass may not be a good idea.That usually involves £ at the root of any decision making etc

However, again because the advantages of getting some kind of proof of being healthy far outweighs ' winging it' as strategy I can't see the church saying that..

This has nothing to do with people being poor? Tests are provided free? And are I believe due to be made cheaper for international travel etc..

The fact that A big family can't go and sun themselves on the Costa for a fortnight as it may incur some charges in my opinion isn't creating any form of underclass.. Let's face it booze, fags, , dodgy label sportswear and the like seems easy to find so why not a few quid to add for security checks?

It's not going to make much difference at all

Sorry OP but I think your post is maybe a bit false.. The church wouldn't say anything like that.. Unless they didn't understand the situation

And that's entirely possible I suppose as they have a past history of doing that for sure.. "

i think (but i may be wrong) that the OP does genuinely find these things online - its not false in terms of he just made it up, but it is usually based on clickbait headline from some fringe media outlet where the real story doesn’t quite match the headline - the racist cheese being another example from this week

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

Churches generally tend to disagree with each other.. So this is a bit difficult to believe..

Though there is maybe a general agreement between every church that creating an obvious ' have not' social underclass may not be a good idea.That usually involves £ at the root of any decision making etc

However, again because the advantages of getting some kind of proof of being healthy far outweighs ' winging it' as strategy I can't see the church saying that..

This has nothing to do with people being poor? Tests are provided free? And are I believe due to be made cheaper for international travel etc..

The fact that A big family can't go and sun themselves on the Costa for a fortnight as it may incur some charges in my opinion isn't creating any form of underclass.. Let's face it booze, fags, , dodgy label sportswear and the like seems easy to find so why not a few quid to add for security checks?

It's not going to make much difference at all

Sorry OP but I think your post is maybe a bit false.. The church wouldn't say anything like that.. Unless they didn't understand the situation

And that's entirely possible I suppose as they have a past history of doing that for sure..

i think (but i may be wrong) that the OP does genuinely find these things online - its not false in terms of he just made it up, but it is usually based on clickbait headline from some fringe media outlet where the real story doesn’t quite match the headline - the racist cheese being another example from this week "

The Church of the great white shark

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

Churches generally tend to disagree with each other.. So this is a bit difficult to believe..

Though there is maybe a general agreement between every church that creating an obvious ' have not' social underclass may not be a good idea.That usually involves £ at the root of any decision making etc

However, again because the advantages of getting some kind of proof of being healthy far outweighs ' winging it' as strategy I can't see the church saying that..

This has nothing to do with people being poor? Tests are provided free? And are I believe due to be made cheaper for international travel etc..

The fact that A big family can't go and sun themselves on the Costa for a fortnight as it may incur some charges in my opinion isn't creating any form of underclass.. Let's face it booze, fags, , dodgy label sportswear and the like seems easy to find so why not a few quid to add for security checks?

It's not going to make much difference at all

Sorry OP but I think your post is maybe a bit false.. The church wouldn't say anything like that.. Unless they didn't understand the situation

And that's entirely possible I suppose as they have a past history of doing that for sure..

i think (but i may be wrong) that the OP does genuinely find these things online - its not false in terms of he just made it up, but it is usually based on clickbait headline from some fringe media outlet where the real story doesn’t quite match the headline - the racist cheese being another example from this week "
was it wenslydale because that always comes across as a bigot and racist

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By * AND R 777Couple
over a year ago

Teesside

The Church follow there made up book, that sends one set of people to hevan and another set to hell, I think they mite have invented the two tier system

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke.


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts.. "

Maybe the Church should first deal with the two tier system of 'Astonishing Wealth v's Astonishing Poverty' that they are so 'called' to assist before considering commenting on anything anyone else is doing.

"Endowment. The Church of England has a large endowment of £8.7 billion which generates approximately £1 billion a year in income (2019), this is their largest source of revenue."

"Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market. The Vatican has big investments in banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, real estate."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts..

Maybe the Church should first deal with the two tier system of 'Astonishing Wealth v's Astonishing Poverty' that they are so 'called' to assist before considering commenting on anything anyone else is doing.

"Endowment. The Church of England has a large endowment of £8.7 billion which generates approximately £1 billion a year in income (2019), this is their largest source of revenue."

"Bankers' best guesses about the Vatican's wealth put it at $10 billion to $15 billion. Of this wealth, Italian stockholdings alone run to $1.6 billion, 15% of the value of listed shares on the Italian market. The Vatican has big investments in banking, insurance, chemicals, steel, construction, real estate."

"

interestingly people always make out like the catholic church are vastly more wealthy than any other religion, but based on current exchange rates it would put them at £7.2billion to 10.8 which is broadly in line then with the church of england

also how on earth are they making 11.5% return per year

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke.

Let's ad the mormons then too lol

"In 2020 it managed about $100 billion in assets. Ensign employs 70 employees. In 2019, a former employee of Ensign made a whistleblower report to the IRS alleging that the church held over $100 billion of assets in a large investment fund."

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Pass the collection plate...

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's all over the news folks..

I do not make this up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion was originally a means to control the masses

Hence the saying

'To put the fear of god '

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Church follow there made up book, that sends one set of people to hevan and another set to hell, I think they mite have invented the two tier system "

Possibly the most persuasive argument here

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By *mooth tongue 4uMan
over a year ago

edinburgh


"The Church follow there made up book, that sends one set of people to hevan and another set to hell, I think they mite have invented the two tier system "

The church in whatever guise ,,, struggles nowadays with the fact it doesn’t control its masses ,,,,,preaching its propaganda

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


""The Church" is very broad, Tom. Which denomination has written the letter?

All of them have clubbed together..

In my world they are welcome to pray and sing on a Sunday but keep out of politics and stop trying to interfere..

it will be a cold day in hell before the “churches” club together "

That’s what The Eagles said too!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These church leaders are evil buggers...

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Before the church starts meddlimg in politics and trying to advise us how to live they need to get their own house in order. Religion and politics do not mix. Just look at what happens through history. For an organisation that preaches love harmony and peace they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Close them...

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By *ifty69Man
over a year ago

north tyneside

The church is such a controversial subject and ......

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Before the church starts meddlimg in politics and trying to advise us how to live they need to get their own house in order. Religion and politics do not mix. Just look at what happens through history. For an organisation that preaches love harmony and peace they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history "

Have they really? Or is that just an I'll informed and glib throw away line to get the mob charged up? Let's start with ww1 and ww2? Or the crimean or the boer...

Desert storm.... Vietnam...

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors "

So you're still sticking by your original quote that religion is responsible for...

".. they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history"?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The crusades ?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The crusades ?"

The punic wars?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"The crusades ?

The punic wars? "

Wars of hate

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The crusades ?

The punic wars?

Wars of hate"

Wars of expansion

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea


"Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors

So you're still sticking by your original quote that religion is responsible for...

".. they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history"? "

Yes i am

Slums the church of england through various shell companies own some of the most run down areas in the uk

And don t get us started on the child abuse. Too many church representatives have been found out but protected by the church on the hope the problem would go away.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors

So you're still sticking by your original quote that religion is responsible for...

".. they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history"?

Yes i am

Slums the church of england through various shell companies own some of the most run down areas in the uk

And don t get us started on the child abuse. Too many church representatives have been found out but protected by the church on the hope the problem would go away.

"

I'm not defending them nor saying that the various religions have done some shitty things down the ages. They've also done some good things. I'm objecting to the very glib and inaccurate statement that they are responsible for the majority of wars, slums and child harming throughout history. Its too easy to say inaccurate things like that. The war with the most casualties was about empire building and nothing to do with religion at all.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

So we while creating an empire we didn t kill anyone who opposed us or did not convert to our accepted religion?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors

So you're still sticking by your original quote that religion is responsible for...

".. they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history"?

Yes i am

Slums the church of england through various shell companies own some of the most run down areas in the uk

And don t get us started on the child abuse. Too many church representatives have been found out but protected by the church on the hope the problem would go away.

I'm not defending them nor saying that the various religions have done some shitty things down the ages. They've also done some good things. I'm objecting to the very glib and inaccurate statement that they are responsible for the majority of wars, slums and child harming throughout history. Its too easy to say inaccurate things like that. The war with the most casualties was about empire building and nothing to do with religion at all. "
Have to disagree yes many reasons for wars but many are caused by religion and fought in the name of god

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Throught history man has always fought over land, resourses or because someone did not have the same religion (beliefs) as us.

If we could remove the last one from mankind i think the world may be a safer place

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Throught history man has always fought over land, resourses or because someone did not have the same religion (beliefs) as us.

If we could remove the last one from mankind i think the world may be a safer place"
Definately would solve the problems in the middle east and most african wars be a better world

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Ww1 and ww2 were about a country trying to take more than was its own and religion became part of the reasons. persecution of the jews Vietnam was admittedly not much to do with religion but more the yanks trying to stop communism and getting involved in a war that france lost many years before. But as for desert storm it was not just weapoms of mass destruction they also used the excuse of helping the kurdish people who were a differrnt religion to most of iraq but i am not a history teacher so may have some errors

So you're still sticking by your original quote that religion is responsible for...

".. they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history"?

Yes i am

Slums the church of england through various shell companies own some of the most run down areas in the uk

And don t get us started on the child abuse. Too many church representatives have been found out but protected by the church on the hope the problem would go away.

I'm not defending them nor saying that the various religions have done some shitty things down the ages. They've also done some good things. I'm objecting to the very glib and inaccurate statement that they are responsible for the majority of wars, slums and child harming throughout history. Its too easy to say inaccurate things like that. The war with the most casualties was about empire building and nothing to do with religion at all. "

The Church had a good go ..

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke.

The estimate for death in the name of religion is around 40 million in the last thousand years.

That's just a quick google scan non researched but many sources estimate at least 30 million.

We have to remember to that many of our wars were in the name of god. (whichever that one was at the time.).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Religion is regarded by the believers as true, by the inquisitive as nonsense and by politicians as very useful. The very thought that a ministry would challenge the concept of political science is just nuts?

If you have any doubt about God and revenue spend half an hour watching GOD TV and see how some ministries seek funding from those watching the box. The new buzz words are media missionaries! Or pay us a monthly stipend and God will love you.

When the churches give all their vast wealth to good causes, the leftfooters elect a black woman lesbian pope and all denominations come together to worship Linda Lusardi we may have something in common!

Until then I will continue to worship my deity on my wall which is a rather faded copy of the Sun (page 3) from 1984 showing Linda posing on a beach enjoy the Margate sun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A vaccine passport doesn't enable spying or control. If everyone is vaccinated or exempt there will only be one tier."

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Did we not make God too complicated?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Did we not make God too complicated? "

That sentence says so much

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Religion is regarded by the believers as true, by the inquisitive as nonsense and by politicians as very useful. The very thought that a ministry would challenge the concept of political science is just nuts?

If you have any doubt about God and revenue spend half an hour watching GOD TV and see how some ministries seek funding from those watching the box. The new buzz words are media missionaries! Or pay us a monthly stipend and God will love you.

When the churches give all their vast wealth to good causes, the leftfooters elect a black woman lesbian pope and all denominations come together to worship Linda Lusardi we may have something in common!

Until then I will continue to worship my deity on my wall which is a rather faded copy of the Sun (page 3) from 1984 showing Linda posing on a beach enjoy the Margate sun!

"

This

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By *eoeclipseWoman
over a year ago

glasgow


"A vaccine passport doesn't enable spying or control. If everyone is vaccinated or exempt there will only be one tier."

Erm no because medical choices are personal & cannot be forced or coerced.

Bear in mind this has a 99% survival rate and you cannot go zero covid, flu or any other damn thing because they are living beings that evolve, live with it.

Death especially in older ages i.e. 60+ the risk of death through some form of natural degradtion on the body occurs...guess what its natural for old people to die.

Humans are mortal, means you die at some point usually of a virus, disease or old age i.e body shutdown.

Quality of life? Being kept alive is not living. There is a difference.

The letter has been written to describe exactly this

Vax/non vax'd being seperate venues (if any to non vax'd) similar to those experienced in the past with white/black.

We really need to gt away from this homosapienophobia that has been created over the past year.

Btw it means thinking all humans are dangerous until proven healthy.

Healthy being an open ended term that can be driven by the next 'new pandemic' fear.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Did we not make God too complicated?

That sentence says so much "

Not really as in the beginning man created god?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"A vaccine passport doesn't enable spying or control. If everyone is vaccinated or exempt there will only be one tier.

Erm no because medical choices are personal & cannot be forced or coerced.

Bear in mind this has a 99% survival rate and you cannot go zero covid, flu or any other damn thing because they are living beings that evolve, live with it.

Death especially in older ages i.e. 60+ the risk of death through some form of natural degradtion on the body occurs...guess what its natural for old people to die.

Humans are mortal, means you die at some point usually of a virus, disease or old age i.e body shutdown.

Quality of life? Being kept alive is not living. There is a difference.

The letter has been written to describe exactly this

Vax/non vax'd being seperate venues (if any to non vax'd) similar to those experienced in the past with white/black.

We really need to gt away from this homosapienophobia that has been created over the past year.

Btw it means thinking all humans are dangerous until proven healthy.

Healthy being an open ended term that can be driven by the next 'new pandemic' fear."

I like the idea of a pub, plane or hotel where everyone is vaccinated...those other plonkers not welcome

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

We’ve carried yellow cards for years to travel around Africa and the Middle East, it’s nothing new , you want freedoms it comes at a small price , get your jabs and paperwork in order

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Anti vaxers are fine...live with the your decision.

.just not on my pub

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Throught history man has always fought over land, resourses or because someone did not have the same religion (beliefs) as us.

If we could remove the last one from mankind i think the world may be a safer place"

That’s factually incorrect. The history of war is around 15,000 - 25,000 years only , for millions of years there was no such thing as war.

And wars are all about capital and resources not beliefs - man made things.

Multiple religions lived very happily together in places like Iraq for a long time until the west interfered in things it doesn’t understand

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"Throught history man has always fought over land, resourses or because someone did not have the same religion (beliefs) as us.

If we could remove the last one from mankind i think the world may be a safer place

That’s factually incorrect. The history of war is around 15,000 - 25,000 years only , for millions of years there was no such thing as war.

And wars are all about capital and resources not beliefs - man made things.

Multiple religions lived very happily together in places like Iraq for a long time until the west interfered in things it doesn’t understand "

They lived in peace but controlled by fear from Saddam..

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

The church, should keep it's nose out of medicine as it did its best to silence Leonardo da Vinci and the rest of the renaissance.

If he was allowed to go public, would cancer be extinct by now?

That's why churches have lightening conductors on the roofs. Prayer doesn't work. Physics does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The church, should keep it's nose out of medicine as it did its best to silence Leonardo da Vinci and the rest of the renaissance.

If he was allowed to go public, would cancer be extinct by now?

That's why churches have lightening conductors on the roofs. Prayer doesn't work. Physics does.

"

Best post of the day!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Throught history man has always fought over land, resourses or because someone did not have the same religion (beliefs) as us.

If we could remove the last one from mankind i think the world may be a safer place

That’s factually incorrect. The history of war is around 15,000 - 25,000 years only , for millions of years there was no such thing as war.

And wars are all about capital and resources not beliefs - man made things.

Multiple religions lived very happily together in places like Iraq for a long time until the west interfered in things it doesn’t understand

They lived in peace but controlled by fear from Saddam..

"

Saddam is last century mate nor 25000 years ago.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The church, should keep it's nose out of medicine as it did its best to silence Leonardo da Vinci and the rest of the renaissance.

If he was allowed to go public, would cancer be extinct by now?

That's why churches have lightening conductors on the roofs. Prayer doesn't work. Physics does.

"

You think Leonardo "going public" would have cured all cancers?

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By *eedsmale36Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"Before the church starts meddlimg in politics and trying to advise us how to live they need to get their own house in order. Religion and politics do not mix. Just look at what happens through history. For an organisation that preaches love harmony and peace they have been responsible for the majority of wars slums and child harming throughout history

Have they really? Or is that just an I'll informed and glib throw away line to get the mob charged up? Let's start with ww1 and ww2? Or the crimean or the boer...

Desert storm.... Vietnam... "

JFK blown away what else do I have to say, we didn’t start the fires......sorry thought you were reciting the Billy Joel song

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts.. "
briliant well done to the church

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By *00STERMan
over a year ago

nearby


"The Church have written an open letter condemning vaccine passports in the UK because it will create a two tier division in society and pave the way for government spying and control. A company participating in a pilot vaccine passport cinema trial is being harassed by activists. In my world the church should leave the creating of chaos to the experts.. "

I assume that only the church are allowed to implant ways to control people then. Or perhaps only they want to be the ones that are allowed to offer a “passport” to a place based on someones actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this the same church who rejected any science that didn’t agree with their way of thinking and declared scientists as atheists?

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By *eerobCouple
over a year ago

solihull

If they had a word with their ultimate boss they could get him to stop the virus...hence no need for passports.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

The same church that persecuted so called witches and sent army to the middle east to reclaim the holy grail and that depicts jesus as a white man?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its bollox cos anyone under 30 will be seen as scum utter bullshit the future is dark war is coming

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These Church buggers want us all vaccinated...

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