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By *lirty and fun OP   Man
over a year ago

Redditch

Interesting to see how this one plays out in Europe.

Oxford scientists have analysed data and results show that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have the same blood clot risk as AZ!

In addition...your risk of a blood clot from Covid is vastly higher than the chance of a clot from the vaccines.

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By *pices69Couple
over a year ago

Gravesend

Clots being a side effect of a covid immune response - i can’t help but wonder if the people affected would get a clot in either scenario.

11% of USA ICU admirations involve clots.

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By *mateur100Man
over a year ago

nr faversham


"Interesting to see how this one plays out in Europe.

Oxford scientists have analysed data and results show that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have the same blood clot risk as AZ!

In addition...your risk of a blood clot from Covid is vastly higher than the chance of a clot from the vaccines. "

Even if the penny has dropped I suspect the commission will take it's time before grudgingly accepting the obvious

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

Would guess more chance of a clot from a long hall flight but there is no warning when you book that just told to wiggle you feet when seated.

No mention of aspirin before it to reduce the risk ( strange )

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Probably true but women take the pill with a greater risk crazy.

I read the EU is going to drop AZ and Johnson vaccines they will be totally trapped in lockdown cycle for year.

Good news for us as all the vaccine we want.

I will miss Euro holidays maybe wee need to invade Spain and vaccinate the there whole population then we can have our cheap risk free holidays back.

We can attack from Gibralter getting all the nice sunny areas first

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

Has a link been proven yet, last I heard it was potential. In which case it is no surprise the clot risk is no different for different vaccine types. Don't need to be Oxford boffin to predict that.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Blood clots race through females in my family ,my had 3 my nan had 2 and my cousin droped down dead with one ,i still had vaccine no trouble..

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By *outhlondon_guyMan
over a year ago

London


"Interesting to see how this one plays out in Europe.

Oxford scientists have analysed data and results show that Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have the same blood clot risk as AZ!

In addition...your risk of a blood clot from Covid is vastly higher than the chance of a clot from the vaccines.

Even if the penny has dropped I suspect the commission will take it's time before grudgingly accepting the obvious"

The commission isn't making any decisions, there's a regulator who I believe has said it's safe, and individual countries are implementing different policies, as is their right as being an EU member. They can authorise and purchase medicines independently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Probably true but women take the pill with a greater risk crazy.

I read the EU is going to drop AZ and Johnson vaccines they will be totally trapped in lockdown cycle for year.

Good news for us as all the vaccine we want.

I will miss Euro holidays maybe wee need to invade Spain and vaccinate the there whole population then we can have our cheap risk free holidays back.

We can attack from Gibralter getting all the nice sunny areas first

"

Talking common sense will not go down well lol

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I was on the pill and multiple other similar drugs for 23 years, I never had a blood clot so I'm happy to risk my second AZ vaccine as the risk is miniscule.

Alot of this drama was politically motivated by the EU, if people bothered to read the numbers instead of just panicking, they would see that the vaccine is far less risky than having covid.

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By *lirty and fun OP   Man
over a year ago

Redditch


"I was on the pill and multiple other similar drugs for 23 years, I never had a blood clot so I'm happy to risk my second AZ vaccine as the risk is miniscule.

Alot of this drama was politically motivated by the EU, if people bothered to read the numbers

instead of just panicking, they would see that the vaccine is far less risky than having covid. "

Well said Keeley. I think you are spot on...so many people just don't read the data.

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By *aralewisCouple
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

This may be only the start of problems

Like ive always said ypu can make a vaccine in 10 month but usually takes years to make sure its safe with all test.

.my concern is so much money and politics has gone into they will still role it out and cover up some major issues

Until some whistle blower comes out they want SILINCE

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone have any data on number of clots caused by Covid.

I have never heard Covid caused clots until clots appeared apparently caused by the vaccine.

I had the vaccine and no symptoms at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone have any links about this?

KJ

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By *aybobdubMan
over a year ago

D9


"I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more"

Exactly! Thank you. Highly doubt its even been peer reviewed. Just trying to save the az contract

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more"

This

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more

Exactly! Thank you. Highly doubt its even been peer reviewed. Just trying to save the az contract"

The scientists are not from the AZ development team, they are an independent body.

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By *aybobdubMan
over a year ago

D9

Any links, evidence or otherwise? Otherwise it’s just heresay


"I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more

Exactly! Thank you. Highly doubt its even been peer reviewed. Just trying to save the az contract

The scientists are not from the AZ development team, they are an independent body."

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By *portyndNaughtyMan
over a year ago

Nearby Hinckley

BMJ risks of blood cloths per 1 million people:

AZ vaccine: 0.0004%;

Birth control pill: 0.05% to 0.12%;

Smoking:0.18%;

COVID infection:16.5%.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"I’m very inclined to call bullshit on the oxford scientists finding the exact result they wanted, I’ll believe an impartial source more"

You have a valid point but I don't think it's the same scientists that produced the vaccine.

Even so, the risk of clots from the vaccine is miniscule, especially when compared to other causes.

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By *eryBigGirlWoman
over a year ago

East Yorkshire


"Does anyone have any data on number of clots caused by Covid.

I have never heard Covid caused clots until clots appeared apparently caused by the vaccine.

I had the vaccine and no symptoms at all "

I’ve followed this closely as I suffer clots but now am medicated. I have still had both vaccines and had AZ. Last I read 79 had reported clots of which 19 died. Sad anyone dying but a minuscule number in comparison to the millions who have had the vaccine!!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Does anyone have any data on number of clots caused by Covid.

I have never heard Covid caused clots until clots appeared apparently caused by the vaccine.

I had the vaccine and no symptoms at all "

Covid has been well known to cause significant cardiovascular complications, including blood clots in the lungs, brain (causing stroke) and other major organs. This has been known since very early in the pandemic.

Example, this article from the Heart Research Institute:

"People with coronavirus are at risk of blood clots and strokes"

This was originally published on the website The Conversation on 30th April 2020.

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By *overtMan
over a year ago

Preston

You mean those ‘Rare blood clots’

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"You mean those ‘Rare blood clots’"

Blood clots caused by the vaccines are rare.

Blood clots caused by Covid disease itself are very common.

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By *overtMan
over a year ago

Preston

They are ‘Experimental’

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

One wonders if many people have read the contra indications of simple paracetamol before they decided to swallow them ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

CORONAVIRUS COVID-19 linked to serious leg blood clots (Source: diabetes.co.uk) ok, now let’s compare every day life, pre CVD-19 and look at strokes (source: https://www.world-heart-federation.org/resources/stroke-blood-clots/)

I have a family member that has a clot in her neck, she is 83... has had both Astra Zeneca injections and is still here... I’m a medic, I’ve had both injections and no side effects.

The point is this, that until CVD-19 came along, we.. the general public never took any notice of death rates via influenza. Equally, nobody took any notice of the general public having suffered a stroke, ischemic attack, DVT, clots resulting from diabetes. Why? Because it was never main stream news.

Now if anyone cares to research comparative data (if they are publicly available) I think the sceptics will be in for a shock as the clotting rates for ‘normal patient groups’ is far higher than the clotting as a result of the vaccines.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"CORONAVIRUS COVID-19 linked to serious leg blood clots (Source: diabetes.co.uk) ok, now let’s compare every day life, pre CVD-19 and look at strokes (source: https://www.world-heart-federation.org/resources/stroke-blood-clots/)

I have a family member that has a clot in her neck, she is 83... has had both Astra Zeneca injections and is still here... I’m a medic, I’ve had both injections and no side effects.

The point is this, that until CVD-19 came along, we.. the general public never took any notice of death rates via influenza. Equally, nobody took any notice of the general public having suffered a stroke, ischemic attack, DVT, clots resulting from diabetes. Why? Because it was never main stream news.

Now if anyone cares to research comparative data (if they are publicly available) I think the sceptics will be in for a shock as the clotting rates for ‘normal patient groups’ is far higher than the clotting as a result of the vaccines.

"

But that doesn't tie into the facebook drama that the vaccine will kill us all and that all the countries in the world joined together to kill off the population and destroy the economy! How could you use common sense at a time like this?!

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea


"Does anyone have any data on number of clots caused by Covid.

I have never heard Covid caused clots until clots appeared apparently caused by the vaccine.

I had the vaccine and no symptoms at all "

My best mate was in icu for 3 mths after catching covid and getting blood clots on his lungs. Still unable to walk for more thsn 5 minutes at a time and still on medication but thankfuly on the mend

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