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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous!" So the test doesnt cost anything or the infrastructure needed to back testing up, they do know if the test hasn't been in contact with human tissue, | |||
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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous! So the test doesnt cost anything or the infrastructure needed to back testing up, they do know if the test hasn't been in contact with human tissue," This........ | |||
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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous! So the test doesnt cost anything or the infrastructure needed to back testing up, they do know if the test hasn't been in contact with human tissue, This........ " Hmmmm, so why are further tests (if the returning person tests positive) completely free of charge? | |||
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"Thanks to all of you who have commented back channel and then blocked us. Always makes for a good open discussion! " Why would it matter? Surely forum posts are forum posts not an invitation to pm? | |||
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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous!" Maybe they shouldn't go abroad during a pandemic then | |||
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"Dont go abroad, save £420 ... simples." Ye and if you do don't moan about it, but still trying to work out why you would want to abroad in the first place unless it was for work or business | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. " I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. " I'm sure amazon will be in on the act soon. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. " Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank " I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. " New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. " Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. " Understandable. Its certainly been a rough tough year for most people. Enjoy wherever you manage to get off to. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. " Lateral flow test kits are only cheaper if you buy in bulk. Lab tests are a lot higher as there is transportation usually by same day currier dirct to lab and Labs cost a shit load of money to run Staff machienery admin ect. | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year)" this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing " Absolutely. I think people don't appreciate the cost of medicines, particularly new medicines. (I once asked my GP if I could have a certain test, "because X and I know it's not expensive". She was appalled that I would consider the cost of something that I had perfectly good medical justification to ask for, lol) | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing " There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab. | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing ------ There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab." Is the price difference not just to do with exchange rates & taxes/duty? Cal | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing ------ There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab. Is the price difference not just to do with exchange rates & taxes/duty? Cal" I'm sure currency fluctuations have an impact and I really don't know why the variances. However I'm sure I saw an article a while ago that they are just different contractually agreed prices. Logistics costs, security, distribution etc will have an impact too. Here's a little more on Pfizer and Moderna from the same article...and az in South Africa. Oxford University and AstraZeneca also released a joint statement in November pledging to make their vaccine available at cost price “in perpetuity” to low- and middle-incoming nations. But South Africa’s Health Ministry revealed in January that the price being paid there for the Oxford jab was $5.25 (£3.84), AFP reported - far more than the amount paid by most European nations. Pfizer-BioNTech According to the BBC, the Pfizer/BioNTech jab is costing the UK around £15 per dose. Over in Israel, which is leading the global race to vaccinate populations, the authorities initially claimed to be paying the equivalent of £22 per dose of the Pfizer jab - substantially more than the UK is shelling out. And the price paid by the Israelis may be even higher, with a health official later telling public broadcaster Kan that each dose had actually cost his country £34. Moderna The UK is believed to have spent between £24 and £28 per dose on the Moderna jab, the Daily Mail reports. The vaccine’s development was partly subsidised by the US government and will cost the US about $15 (£10.86) a dose, while the EU is paying $18 (£13.03), the BMJ adds. Israel is paying “$23.50 per dose on average” as part of a deal that saw the country “obtain early shipments”, the journal adds. Sputnik V In Russia, the manufacturers of the one-dose Sputnik vaccine said in a statement back in November that the cost of its vaccine “for international markets will be less than $10 per dose starting from February 2021”. “Thus, Sputnik V will be two or more times cheaper than foreign vaccines based on mRNA technology with similar efficacy rates,” the company added. No reliable figures exist on what individual countries have paid for the Russian vaccine, with Hungary and Slovakia becoming the first EU countries to negotiate the purchase of the jab that is yet to be given approval by the European Medicines Agency. | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab." presumably for the vial of vaccine itself? then we have storage, transport, next lot of storage, the cost of the vaccine centres, the cost of the vaccinators and additional medical staff , the cost of the admin behind it - the people doing the orders and sorting the distribution and sending the letters going out, paying the bills and the paperwork for the centres, the HR admin for all the employees doing all the other elements, the call centre for people to make appointments and ask queries, an operation this size it really is endless the amount of folk involved to be fair when someone quoted £120 above i took it at face value - that might be for the pfizer vaccine or something , but the cost still amounts to much much more than the $3 each | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. " Buying in bulk, with a regular commitment to do so, is always going to be considerably cheaper than buying a one off product Also “luxury” products are usually dearer that day-to-day things because it’s a different market and less demand. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. Buying in bulk, with a regular commitment to do so, is always going to be considerably cheaper than buying a one off product Also “luxury” products are usually dearer that day-to-day things because it’s a different market and less demand." Pretty sure these companies are bulk buying with a view to testing millions of travelers | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab. presumably for the vial of vaccine itself? then we have storage, transport, next lot of storage, the cost of the vaccine centres, the cost of the vaccinators and additional medical staff , the cost of the admin behind it - the people doing the orders and sorting the distribution and sending the letters going out, paying the bills and the paperwork for the centres, the HR admin for all the employees doing all the other elements, the call centre for people to make appointments and ask queries, an operation this size it really is endless the amount of folk involved to be fair when someone quoted £120 above i took it at face value - that might be for the pfizer vaccine or something , but the cost still amounts to much much more than the $3 each" Absolutely I think the Gps and the companies delivering the vaccine are being paid about 120 quid a dose.... And as you said theres a lot more involved that layers in costs on top of the cost of the medication itself. I should have probably been more precise first time around. My point was... If a flu vaccine can be delivered and costs me the end user 15 quid (I'm making an assumption that is the full cost, but perhaps it is being subsidised?)... | |||
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" Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. New and/or branded medicines tend to cost more. In Oz where you pay a portion of the cost of the medicine you're prescribed, antidepressants are $30-40 a month, but $10-15 if you go generic brand. (Applies across all medicines where a generic exists) And some medicines cost more to produce than others (at one point my autoimmune disorder treatment was something like $20 for the year) this is usually because the branded version are the ones that poured all the money into the research to develop the drug , they then have to recoup that and are give a few years patent protection where they are the sole provider to try make back that research cost and start to turn a profit, then a generic brand can come in who have none of that back cost and under cut them also different vaccines will have a different cost, ive had hep b for going abroad which was about £25 but had to have 2 shots of japanese encephalitis at £85 a go - the ingredients, manufacture process, storage and transport wont be the same for each vaccine , possibly even different training to administer so why do we assume that because the flu vaccine is £15 the covid one is a rip off, the oxford vaccine is being done at cost so if its costing £120 then thats genuinely what it is costing There's a good article in "this week" about vaccine costs. The domestically produced Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine costs the government around $3 (£2.17) per jab, according to the BMJ in January. The EU is paying $2.15 (£1.56) per dose of the UK-developed vaccine, the journal added, while the US is paying marginally more than the UK at $4 (£2.90) per jab. presumably for the vial of vaccine itself? then we have storage, transport, next lot of storage, the cost of the vaccine centres, the cost of the vaccinators and additional medical staff , the cost of the admin behind it - the people doing the orders and sorting the distribution and sending the letters going out, paying the bills and the paperwork for the centres, the HR admin for all the employees doing all the other elements, the call centre for people to make appointments and ask queries, an operation this size it really is endless the amount of folk involved to be fair when someone quoted £120 above i took it at face value - that might be for the pfizer vaccine or something , but the cost still amounts to much much more than the $3 each Absolutely I think the Gps and the companies delivering the vaccine are being paid about 120 quid a dose.... And as you said theres a lot more involved that layers in costs on top of the cost of the medication itself. I should have probably been more precise first time around. My point was... If a flu vaccine can be delivered and costs me the end user 15 quid (I'm making an assumption that is the full cost, but perhaps it is being subsidised?)... " The flu jab won't now have much R&D costs, just general production and distribution costs, at huge volume via existing channels. Unlike the covid 1, which has used significant development costs, yet to be returned, for most of them and needing new channels and infrastructure etc. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. Buying in bulk, with a regular commitment to do so, is always going to be considerably cheaper than buying a one off product Also “luxury” products are usually dearer that day-to-day things because it’s a different market and less demand. Pretty sure these companies are bulk buying with a view to testing millions of travelers " I still don't know the details of the service being provided - is it PCR testing or a different type, for example? Is it a very fastrack results service, which may use dedicated couriers to labs per test etc? | |||
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"Keeping you safe in your own country = free or at cost Keeping your country safe from you choosing to travel abroad = cost to you. Makes perfect sense. You aren't just paying for the swab and other bits and bobs. You are paying for the lab tech time and resources to process a test you wouldn't have ordinarily needed had you stayed in the UK. " And I imagine there's immemse pressure on resources and expertise to do these things. Scarcity drives prices up. | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. Buying in bulk, with a regular commitment to do so, is always going to be considerably cheaper than buying a one off product Also “luxury” products are usually dearer that day-to-day things because it’s a different market and less demand. Pretty sure these companies are bulk buying with a view to testing millions of travelers " The end customer isn’t buying in bulk though. They’re buying once or twice a year. | |||
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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous!" to answer your question yes I have seen way worse value for money the humble 99with a flake is a prime example touching £3 now robbing bastards, at least dick turpin wore a mask | |||
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"Has anyone here ever seen worse value for money than what a couple returning from abroad get for £420? 4 x cotton swab 4 x plastic bag 4 x small phial of liquid 4 x absorbent pad 4 x small pre-cut cardboard box Sort of thing that in Home Bargains would cost about 99p Adding insult to injury, they don't even know whether the swabs have been anywhere near your nose or tonsils! All this to tell you that when you did the test ' you probably didn't have Covid'. Iniquitous! to answer your question yes I have seen way worse value for money the humble 99with a flake is a prime example touching £3 now robbing bastards, at least dick turpin wore a mask" Three quid for a 99? Bloody hell what is the world coming to. I remember a time when you could go out with thruppence ha'penny in your pocket, take your best girl for a slap up meal, get two tickets for the pictures, give her a 99 in the interval, catch the bus home and still have thruppence change... | |||
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"You have every right to be upset, it shouldn't be a money making scheme. The price is absolutely shocking. My husband has the same test at work every week, they only cost a few quid. You also have every right to enjoy a holiday in the sun once Boris allows you. Some people work hard all year for that little pleasure. People are acting like idiots right here in Britain, with riots, protests, d*unk in parks ect... I will also be on the first flight out, following all the rules, and yes grumbling about the costs of the covid tests. Take no notice of the negative comments here, it's good to chat about a topic, not try to stop it with their own negative thoughts and attitude. I'd have thought it's a perfect opportunity for a money making scheme. People want something... They expect to pay for it. Your flight isn't free. Your airport parking isn't free. Your beers or s in the airport lounge aren't free. Your bottle of water for the flight isn't free. Your hotel at the other end isn't free. Supply and demand will set the price just like everything else we do. These are private Companies one assumes are setting the price they believe they can achieve. Don't disagree, morally it doesn't sit well with me though. I didn't know it was a money making business, should it be profitable? I dunno. Anyway I'll be paying it, with a grudge I guess. It's not optional so I better raid the piggy bank I agree it seems a lot. But not many of us know the man hours that go behind it. I imagine there's a healthy profit in their for someone. But it's the expectation that it will be free (and therefore someone else is paying for it) that I find odd. When we are happy to pay for everything else. Vaccines 120 quid per shot as another example. Plenty of people are making plenty of money out of this and not all due to the big bad govt. Flu shots cost 15 quid... Why covid ones are being charged to govt at 120 each heaven knows. But I'm sure once people start thinking more normally again prices will drop. Nobody said it should be free. My husband has the same test in work weekly. Each test is less than £10 each, so it angers me they chose to rip off people who are seeking a bit of fun in life after a desperately miserable year. Buying in bulk, with a regular commitment to do so, is always going to be considerably cheaper than buying a one off product Also “luxury” products are usually dearer that day-to-day things because it’s a different market and less demand. Pretty sure these companies are bulk buying with a view to testing millions of travelers I still don't know the details of the service being provided - is it PCR testing or a different type, for example? Is it a very fastrack results service, which may use dedicated couriers to labs per test etc? " NO. It's a Royal Mail post service, worth about a pound. | |||
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