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"Isn't the national prevalence in Germany fairly low, despite them extending restrictions? " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56460696 "Coronavirus cases are rising exponentially in Germany, officials warn, as continental Europe braces for a third wave of infections." | |||
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"They are trialling bubble holidays . Only people in same household can stay in the same room. There’s no borders in Europe so people can go where they like pretty much these days. " Covid means there are currently some boarders in some countries in Europe, both external and internal.. more will be put in place if the upwards trends continue | |||
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" Prob negative test before travel and before return . Or even better proof of vaccine. As we know from research being carried out that the vaccines do not stop you catching, carrying or circulating the virus surely the better of these options is the testing not a piece of paper saying that you have been vaccinated? " the research has shown that the vaccine does indeed help lower transmission and also reduce the risk of catching it... but mostly it stops the severity of the virus if you still manage to catch it. .I won't be going on holiday while you have to add 2 to 3 tests to go as simply cant afford the extra £250 plus each person. | |||
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"We will most definately(sic) not be going abroad this year." I'm surprised that so far we haven't had anyone post that they will be 'defiantly' going abroad this year. I like to see a bit of defiance on any forum. One definitely comes to expect it! | |||
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"Does going to Wales count as going abroad?? If it does, then I will be this year." If overlord dripford gets his way you won t be allowed ( wales for the welsh ) Self contained holiday lets can open for easter but only for the welsh as it is still stay local ????? | |||
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"We will most definately(sic) not be going abroad this year. I'm surprised that so far we haven't had anyone post that they will be 'defiantly' going abroad this year. I like to see a bit of defiance on any forum. One definitely comes to expect it!" I’ve booked 3 holidays abroad for later in the year  | |||
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"We will most definately(sic) not be going abroad this year. I'm surprised that so far we haven't had anyone post that they will be 'defiantly' going abroad this year. I like to see a bit of defiance on any forum. One definitely comes to expect it! I’ve booked 3 holidays abroad for later in the year "We have just rebooked all of ours for next year. Yes its looking probable that some international travel may be allowed but most countries have some form of restrictions and the uncertainty and how quickly things can change we just wouldn't be able to relax so seems like a waste of money. Also both the holidays we had booked changed the airport and one changed twice to there is just too much uncertainty. | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws." Sounds like another abuse of power | |||
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"I wonder what qualifies as essential as I need to go home. The declaration form for international travel is open to a lot of interpretation. " Work, education, caring responsibilities, dying and dead relatives.... | |||
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"I wonder what qualifies as essential as I need to go home. The declaration form for international travel is open to a lot of interpretation. Work, education, caring responsibilities, dying and dead relatives...." Cheers. It fits. | |||
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"I wonder what qualifies as essential as I need to go home. The declaration form for international travel is open to a lot of interpretation. Work, education, caring responsibilities, dying and dead relatives.... Cheers. It fits. "  | |||
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"I wonder what qualifies as essential as I need to go home. The declaration form for international travel is open to a lot of interpretation. Work, education, caring responsibilities, dying and dead relatives.... Cheers. It fits. "Don’t forget to fill the delegation form in before you travel. | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power" Sounds like sensible prevention. | |||
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"don't think we will bother this year let them have the beds" | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention." If you think using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is appropriate. | |||
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"... Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. ... Sounds like another abuse of power" Welcome to the fine based economy. Covid to the exchequer's rescue! | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. " Won't other party supporters be able to go to their second homes then? | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. " Do you have to be a tory to have a second home now? | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. Do you have to be a tory to have a second home now?" We have 2 homes and iv never voted torie in my life so the answer is no. | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention. If you think using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is appropriate." The nut in this case is huge .... and therefore a proportionate response? Or is the news about the large third wave coming from overseas falling on deaf ears? | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention. If you think using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is appropriate. The nut in this case is huge .... and therefore a proportionate response? Or is the news about the large third wave coming from overseas falling on deaf ears? " What is the point of threatening people with a big fine when the prospect of having a non refundable flight and holiday booking is enough of a deterrent. Unless this country is now so skint that we are resorting to funding ourselves by fining anybody for anything? | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention. If you think using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is appropriate. The nut in this case is huge .... and therefore a proportionate response? Or is the news about the large third wave coming from overseas falling on deaf ears? What is the point of threatening people with a big fine when the prospect of having a non refundable flight and holiday booking is enough of a deterrent. Unless this country is now so skint that we are resorting to funding ourselves by fining anybody for anything?" The point is that at the moment there are loads of people going on holiday who claim it is an essential trip and very little that the law can do to stop it. Now it will be very clear and a very strong incentive not to break the law. | |||
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"They are trialling bubble holidays . Only people in same household can stay in the same room. There’s no borders in Europe so people can go where they like pretty much these days. " Actually the last bit is not quite true... a European country is allowed to close borders in cases of national emergency... so for example you can only get into Germany at the moment after a negative COVID test | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. " Wonder why they havent closed that loophole? | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. Do you have to be a tory to have a second home now?" I have a second home but they wont let me in to get to the bar  | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. " I’m not Tory and I have a second home. | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention. If you think using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is appropriate. The nut in this case is huge .... and therefore a proportionate response? Or is the news about the large third wave coming from overseas falling on deaf ears? What is the point of threatening people with a big fine when the prospect of having a non refundable flight and holiday booking is enough of a deterrent. Unless this country is now so skint that we are resorting to funding ourselves by fining anybody for anything? The point is that at the moment there are loads of people going on holiday who claim it is an essential trip and very little that the law can do to stop it. Now it will be very clear and a very strong incentive not to break the law." It's not a strong incentive, it's a vindictive and petty punishment. A strong incentive is the mandatory quarantine measures or the new forms required for travel. The prospect of being turned away from the airport without a refund for not having the correct paperwork is deterrent enough. These new measures only serve to diminish the faith in government and scientists in the eyes of the general public. | |||
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"I wonder what qualifies as essential as I need to go home. The declaration form for international travel is open to a lot of interpretation. " my understanding was its the same as the terms now, but when the stay at home order ends they needs something replace it to keep the restrictions over the border , i night be wrong though | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. Wonder why they havent closed that loophole?" because if you have a second property that needs ongoing maintenance it would be wrong to ban you from getting to it | |||
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" because if you have a second property that needs ongoing maintenance it would be wrong to ban you from getting to it " So the virus knows not to infect second home owners ? | |||
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" because if you have a second property that needs ongoing maintenance it would be wrong to ban you from getting to it So the virus knows not to infect second home owners ?" well we both know that’s a ridiculous nonsensical suggestion, but would you rather we also had to start dishing out government money as compensation for deterioration and devaluation of assets we didn’t let people maintain? they still need to fill out all the paperwork and follow any quarantine rules to reduce risk from the visit, we just haven’t banned them from flying out , the same way that we haven’t banned people going for business | |||
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"On sky news tonight. Maybe coming into force on Monday. Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws. Sounds like another abuse of power Sounds like sensible prevention." | |||
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"Everything comes to he who waits. When there's doubt, there is no doubt." | |||
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"Visiting popular UK holiday destinations ,without booked accommodation this year,is likely to be banned.LOL How that will be enforceable is questionable?" So you are saying no day trips out for a walk along the coast, through a national park, a stroll around a city? How would that work? | |||
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" So you are saying no day trips out for a walk along the coast, through a national park, a stroll around a city? How would that work? " Car numberplate recognition if you leave your locality ? | |||
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" So you are saying no day trips out for a walk along the coast, through a national park, a stroll around a city? How would that work? Car numberplate recognition if you leave your locality ?" Seems far fetched to me, not everyone drives how would you track cyclists ? | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. Wonder why they havent closed that loophole? because if you have a second property that needs ongoing maintenance it would be wrong to ban you from getting to it " Sutely if you can Afford a 2nd home you can stretch to a cleaner? | |||
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"Allowed to travel to 2nd homes. Tories gonna tory. Wonder why they havent closed that loophole? because if you have a second property that needs ongoing maintenance it would be wrong to ban you from getting to it Sutely if you can Afford a 2nd home you can stretch to a cleaner?" | |||
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"Visiting popular UK holiday destinations ,without booked accommodation this year,is likely to be banned.LOL How that will be enforceable is questionable? So you are saying no day trips out for a walk along the coast, through a national park, a stroll around a city? How would that work? " A couple were stopped on the promenade here in Maldon a few days back by police. Asked where are you from, they replied “Chelmsford “. Eight miles away, both were fined £150 | |||
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" Sutely if you can Afford a 2nd home you can stretch to a cleaner?" It was so vital for Boris' dad to clean his second home in Greece that he hired a private plane to fly there (via Bulgaria) | |||
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"We should all just holiday in the uk this year... keep safe, and boost our home economy at the same time... " The best thing I havd read today! Stay in the UK, keep our money local ! | |||
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"Visiting popular UK holiday destinations ,without booked accommodation this year,is likely to be banned.LOL How that will be enforceable is questionable? So you are saying no day trips out for a walk along the coast, through a national park, a stroll around a city? How would that work? A couple were stopped on the promenade here in Maldon a few days back by police. Asked where are you from, they replied “Chelmsford “. Eight miles away, both were fined £150" That makes sense as under the stay at home order. Even when that is lifted on 29 March it is advised you stay local. However, come 18 April (if that date remains the same) you are allowed to stay overnight in self contained accommodation, so I can’t see them stopping others travelling for a day. There are plenty of places you can go and keep your distance. | |||
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"Personally, I don't believe we will be allowed to leave the UK till atleast next year if then.Europe has major problems, not only with the vaccine roll,but I believe civil unrest will become frequent problem for European countries. Yes UK maybe able to stop the spread of variations of covid,but Europe won't due to land borders." People don't just go on holiday to Europe. There are plenty of other destinations in the world. | |||
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" A couple were stopped on the promenade here in Maldon a few days back by police. Asked where are you from, they replied “Chelmsford “. Eight miles away, both were fined £150 " Every incident resulting in a fine must represent massive free publicity for the police/system/government. If they are smart, the police should concentrate on fining people who appear to be joined at the hip to a smartphone. Word of the incident will be all over soshul meejah in seconds flat. Propaganda job done as well as collecting some much needed money for the coffers. | |||
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"We should all just holiday in the uk this year... keep safe, and boost our home economy at the same time... The best thing I havd read today! Stay in the UK, keep our money local ! " Whilst I understand your point we will be going to Turkey for 2 weeks in August if we're able to and if not we'll stay at home or see if there's availability for camping, which I highly doubt there will be. | |||
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"Until such time as the population of an entire country is vaccinated, travel to and from that entity should be banned. This highly transmissible virus is no respector of political boundaries, but will exploit any opportunity to infect another host.Simple biological fact. The effects of a draconian ban is damaging to the pattern of economic and social activity that has emerged over the last 500 years, namely international trade and recent mass travel by plane, but until such time as this pandemic is brought under control, we have to curtail what we formerly considered to be normal life. If we don't we're simply going to experience wave after wave of Covid-19 and its inevitable mutations. For as long as it takes, 'normal' life has to be suspended!" That's for ever then because too many people think Bill Gates will have control over them from the Windows C-19 chips in the vaccines | |||
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"I think its better to stay in this country this year and help business here. some lovely places around the weather might not be as good but a couple of years isn't going be that bad staying in this country surely Just my thought. Fox "I want to do the NC500. hopefully the rules will let me do it | |||
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"They are trialling bubble holidays . Only people in same household can stay in the same room. There’s no borders in Europe so people can go where they like pretty much these days. " Jammy bastards | |||
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"I think its better to stay in this country this year and help business here. some lovely places around the weather might not be as good but a couple of years isn't going be that bad staying in this country surely Just my thought. Fox
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"We should all just holiday in the uk this year... keep safe, and boost our home economy at the same time... " well said | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-german-tourists-flock-to-balearic-islands-as-spain-hopes-to-see-summer-boost-in-tourism-12253591 "Tens of thousands of German tourists reportedly arrived in the Balearic Islands at the weekend, in a welcome boost for local businesses." Just how is the German Government allowing this to happen? Much less the Spanish for taking them. "^^^^^^^ I don't understand this... Where I live there's a 5km distance. I do know some people were travelling to a certain part of Spain, stating dental treatment and had evidence to prove it. What happened then was... The dental professionals in a certain part of Spain contacted the Irish Government stating... We have many Irish people making Dental appointments, but they don't show up... & the apparent Dental `patients` received Email confirmation that yes, they have Dental appointments in Spain. Hence they were allowed travel. | |||
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"https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-german-tourists-flock-to-balearic-islands-as-spain-hopes-to-see-summer-boost-in-tourism-12253591 "Tens of thousands of German tourists reportedly arrived in the Balearic Islands at the weekend, in a welcome boost for local businesses." Just how is the German Government allowing this to happen? Much less the Spanish for taking them.
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"Does going to Wales count as going abroad?? If it does, then I will be this year." I'm going to Morfa Dyffryn a few times this year it seems... | |||
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