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By *ustforfun49 OP   Man
over a year ago

chesterfield

Why are people still dieing from covid.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

Because it's a deadly disease.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

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By *ustforfun49 OP   Man
over a year ago

chesterfield


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity."

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

and?

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon. "

Fewer and fewer will die but I don't think people will stop dying from covid

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There's typically a lag from someone picking up the virus, before they may show symptoms if their immune system didn't fight it off. There's then typically another delay before their symptoms become severe and they get to hospital. And another delay before they may die. Some people have been treated in hospital for months but you're probably looking at about a month or so from being infected until a death - you can find the mean averages if you look for them.

A month ago infection levels were much higher than now and fewer people had received a vaccine - the vaccine should typically be expected to take 3 weeks to provide immunity. 7 weeks ago far, far fewer had been vaccinated.

As time progresses, infection levels are falling and ever more possible have been vaccinated and had enough time to develop immunity. This whole process is not instant.

Behaviour and choices today affect the actual results in a few weeks into the future.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon. "

As infection levels fall, fewer people will get ill and die. As ever more people have the vaccine and develop their immunity, which takes upto 3 weeks to acquire, evef fewer will get seriously unwell and ever fewer of them will die. It's possible that a tiny number of vaccinated people could die but if we continue to reduce the level of infection in the country, this becomes decreasingly a possibility. The risk is for those who haven't been vaccinated but there are fewer of them each week and our lockdown is helping to stop infections being caught.

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By *ustforfun49 OP   Man
over a year ago

chesterfield


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

As infection levels fall, fewer people will get ill and die. As ever more people have the vaccine and develop their immunity, which takes upto 3 weeks to acquire, evef fewer will get seriously unwell and ever fewer of them will die. It's possible that a tiny number of vaccinated people could die but if we continue to reduce the level of infection in the country, this becomes decreasingly a possibility. The risk is for those who haven't been vaccinated but there are fewer of them each week and our lockdown is helping to stop infections being caught. "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

Fewer and fewer will die but I don't think people will stop dying from covid "

Agreed

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

They are dying because they have not had the jab. Get off your backsides and get it done. Save the NHS and your family and friends.

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

As infection levels fall, fewer people will get ill and die. As ever more people have the vaccine and develop their immunity, which takes upto 3 weeks to acquire, evef fewer will get seriously unwell and ever fewer of them will die. It's possible that a tiny number of vaccinated people could die but if we continue to reduce the level of infection in the country, this becomes decreasingly a possibility. The risk is for those who haven't been vaccinated but there are fewer of them each week and our lockdown is helping to stop infections being caught. "

I think infection is too tame a word to describe a disease that can kill you if you contract it.

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By *irty_DeedsMan
over a year ago

Teesside


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

As infection levels fall, fewer people will get ill and die. As ever more people have the vaccine and develop their immunity, which takes upto 3 weeks to acquire, evef fewer will get seriously unwell and ever fewer of them will die. It's possible that a tiny number of vaccinated people could die but if we continue to reduce the level of infection in the country, this becomes decreasingly a possibility. The risk is for those who haven't been vaccinated but there are fewer of them each week and our lockdown is helping to stop infections being caught.

I think infection is too tame a word to describe a disease that can kill you if you contract it. "
You also get infected by Ebola

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

As infection levels fall, fewer people will get ill and die. As ever more people have the vaccine and develop their immunity, which takes upto 3 weeks to acquire, evef fewer will get seriously unwell and ever fewer of them will die. It's possible that a tiny number of vaccinated people could die but if we continue to reduce the level of infection in the country, this becomes decreasingly a possibility. The risk is for those who haven't been vaccinated but there are fewer of them each week and our lockdown is helping to stop infections being caught.

I think infection is too tame a word to describe a disease that can kill you if you contract it. "

So what word do you recommend?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke

Now it’s here, ppl will always die from it, just like the flu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate."

Fair point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/"

So you would rather risk getting COVID and suffering a long painful death ?

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By *TJxComboMan
over a year ago

birmingham

People die every day it's called nature get used to it

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Its natural for people to die from all sorts of reasons, remember they are dying with Covid-19 not of Covid-19.

The vaccine is not going to stop all stage 5 diseases, its trying to lessen the complications Covid-19 causes, so the nhs is not overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon. "

People will alweays die it's just the maner of dying

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"People die every day it's called nature get used to it "
It’s the only thing we can all be assured off, we are all going to die

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

The numbers are very low when you consider we have a population of 65million and they are potentially dying with covid not necessarily because of covid.

Its sad but people will still be dying from covid even after everyone is vaccinated.

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By *avid4olderMan
over a year ago

North Coast


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "

Because there is no cure.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "

Because people are still wondering why people are still dieing from Covid.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South

I waved my magic wand, and Covid vanished, instantly.

Why people don't understand why people are still dieing is beyond me.

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate."

But if they also wont get tested then they wouldnt have had a diagnosis in the last 28 days so they wouldnt come up in the stats

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

But if they also wont get tested then they wouldnt have had a diagnosis in the last 28 days so they wouldnt come up in the stats"

I would have thought if you're close to dying you would still go to hospital even if you're living off radar?

Or even if not, theres going to be a body to explain somewhere along the line? Not sure

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By *ickerMan
over a year ago

Preston


"I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/"

What if a dominant woman tells you to have it?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/"

The long term effects are known for some. Those who don't have the vaccine, who get infected and die will be very dead in the long term. Vaccination is reducing the numbers of people getting the virus and who may get that option.

If you are someone who is looking for 100% safety in your life, you will find that it's a life not worth living, as you will never be able to do anything at all. You probably are not aware of the sexually transmitted infections that you have caught as well as passed on to others, so I don't buy that what you are saying matches with having any such certainty about it whatsoever.

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By * Plus ECouple
over a year ago

The South


"I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/"

What were the long term effects of every other vaccine you've taken?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

Fair point "

Will they then be "on the radar"?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "
Use your brain work it out not rocket science,why do people die from the flu etc?

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I wont be getting the vaccine for as long as I can. No one knows the long term effects :/

So you would rather risk getting COVID and suffering a long painful death ? "

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

Fair point

Will they then be "on the radar"?"

They've been offered the vaccine no questions asked

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

Fair point

Will they then be "on the radar"?

They've been offered the vaccine no questions asked"

There are outreach teams making contact with those who may have otherwise possibly missed out. It's an inclusive country and plan.

And great steps with the homeless, including in Manchester

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By *aith boyMan
over a year ago

Worthing


"Because it's still spreading, the vaccines aren't 100% effective, and we don't yet have herd immunity.

So do you think people will stop dieing soon.

Fewer and fewer will die but I don't think people will stop dying from covid "

Really !!!?... more will die because there are still billions on the planet, and THEY ARE ALL going to die !

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "

Why do people still die from the flu? Why do people still die from many illnesses?

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By *unbunsCouple
over a year ago

Swansea


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Because people are still wondering why people are still dieing from Covid. "

Remember, if you get knocked down by a bus but have had a positive covid test within the last 28 days you have officially died of covid, even though any fool knows that it was the bus hitting you at high speed that was the likely rout cause.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Whilst there are numerous factors linked to it, (not everyone will get covid) the biggest one is that the vaccine wont cure it, just lowering the symptoms for it, which does help and is good.

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By *appycouple300Couple
over a year ago

North Dorset


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "

Is this question serious? Really cant be that stupid to ask that

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

People dying of Covid aged over 80 is down 86%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plus there are approx 1.5 million people who are living off the radar in this country, who won't get vaccinated, so will add to the death rate.

Fair point

Will they then be "on the radar"?

They've been offered the vaccine no questions asked

There are outreach teams making contact with those who may have otherwise possibly missed out. It's an inclusive country and plan.

And great steps with the homeless, including in Manchester "

Its the same here, the local walk in Center is offering people who are not registered with a GP or have an address walk in appointments for the jab plus the homeless day centre has a vaccine clinic twice a week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why are people still dieing from covid. "

Underlying conditions.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Whilst there are numerous factors linked to it, (not everyone will get covid) the biggest one is that the vaccine wont cure it, just lowering the symptoms for it, which does help and is good."

Fortunately it reduces transmission in line with other vaccines, as is being shown in growing evidence

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Is this question serious? Really cant be that stupid to ask that "

Harsh !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down "

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!

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By *inkynudeMan
over a year ago

London

There’s still people catching covid so, obviously some people die of it... hopefully this will be less and less as more people become immune and the transmission rate drops.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s like asking why are people still dying from flu...

Disease can kill.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!"
That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up. "

But they do prove it to the standards expected of all other diseases. The 28 day death number is corroborated by other ONS measurements.

You see, unlike the asleeple sheeple still spouting the same tired gotcha line about being hit by a bus, I did my research

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up.

But they do prove it to the standards expected of all other diseases. The 28 day death number is corroborated by other ONS measurements.

You see, unlike the asleeple sheeple still spouting the same tired gotcha line about being hit by a bus, I did my research "

Perhaps the bus that keeps killing all these people is the number 19 to COVentry? It's about time that the police stopped that bus and locked up the driver!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up.

But they do prove it to the standards expected of all other diseases. The 28 day death number is corroborated by other ONS measurements.

You see, unlike the asleeple sheeple still spouting the same tired gotcha line about being hit by a bus, I did my research

Perhaps the bus that keeps killing all these people is the number 19 to COVentry? It's about time that the police stopped that bus and locked up the driver!!"

The penny drops.

The conspiracy becomes clear.

Cov (entry) id (entified) bus.

Ban cars! Stop this slaughter! Or at least send them to Coventry!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Cars and buses, because of course we can't be sure, rather than me fucking up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up.

But they do prove it to the standards expected of all other diseases. The 28 day death number is corroborated by other ONS measurements.

You see, unlike the asleeple sheeple still spouting the same tired gotcha line about being hit by a bus, I did my research "
We all know other things are on the death certificate but the BBC give you the figures in which covid was on the certificate, so numbers may never go down using that rule.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down "

My word, the intelligence people exhibit on these pages truly astounds me.

How many people get run over within 28 days of testing positive for covid? Probably zero in truth.

If you’re looking to sensationalise “the figures” perhaps consider how many people are missing from the “with covid” figures. Bearing in mind people can remain on ventilation for months after diagnosis, people can suffer major organ failure weeks after that virus has gone yet the trail of destruction it causes remains in the lung, heart and other key organs.

There’s no doubt the figures understate this countries true death rates. Add to that the suicides, the undiagnosed fatal conditions that are all a knock on from enforced lockdowns and limitations of the services the health system can provide.

They are in one way or another all deaths caused by this virus, the sooner everyone realised that the better tbh

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

Yes, when we stop testing numbers will go down.

If we deny it exists then the records won't reflect its existence.

Should we do that for all diseases? Medical issues are cured, because we don't record them. HIV no longer exists, no one dies in childbirth. We'd save a fortune, if no medical problems exist we wouldn't need an NHS.

Brilliant!That makes no sense if you die if hiv they prove it, if you die now and had a positive test it goes on the figures. They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up.

But they do prove it to the standards expected of all other diseases. The 28 day death number is corroborated by other ONS measurements.

You see, unlike the asleeple sheeple still spouting the same tired gotcha line about being hit by a bus, I did my research We all know other things are on the death certificate but the BBC give you the figures in which covid was on the certificate, so numbers may never go down using that rule. "

Goodness, are you relying on the BBC? How very mainstream of you.

I did my own research on the death rate, as I'm not going to rely on the MSM.

The 28 day measure is not the only one, and the other two corroborate the kind of figure indicated by the 28 day figure.

But I won't deprive you. Maybe you should do your own research and not parrot the lines you picked up from your mainstream media source. But first maybe a coffee to help you wake up?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"People still being recorded as dying with covid, not necessarily of covid. So if tested positive and get run over within 28 day's, you go on the covid list .When we stop testing unless showing signs the numbers won't go down

My word, the intelligence people exhibit on these pages truly astounds me.

How many people get run over within 28 days of testing positive for covid? Probably zero in truth.

If you’re looking to sensationalise “the figures” perhaps consider how many people are missing from the “with covid” figures. Bearing in mind people can remain on ventilation for months after diagnosis, people can suffer major organ failure weeks after that virus has gone yet the trail of destruction it causes remains in the lung, heart and other key organs.

There’s no doubt the figures understate this countries true death rates. Add to that the suicides, the undiagnosed fatal conditions that are all a knock on from enforced lockdowns and limitations of the services the health system can provide.

They are in one way or another all deaths caused by this virus, the sooner everyone realised that the better tbh"

Or, less sarcastically, this. The toll, direct and indirect, is huge. Stopping the tests and denying the problem won't make it go away. And unlike many others, I also care about the indirect toll too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" They dont have to investigate if covid killed you, god wake up. "

I think you're going to have to provide some evidence for this claim.

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By *irthy RobMan
over a year ago

Mobile

Covid (corona viruses are the common cold virus) doesn't kill. Underlying issues kill. Pneumonia is the main killer.

Pneumonia is a bacteria, it lives within most of us h the time we reach 30. All pneumonia needs is a weak or distracted immune system to allow it to grow and become a fatal illness.

Covid19 opens the door to the thing that would eventually get us in the end.

Most who have/are dying are at the end zone of their lives, covid just tipped the balance.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Covid (corona viruses are the common cold virus) doesn't kill. Underlying issues kill. Pneumonia is the main killer.

Pneumonia is a bacteria, it lives within most of us h the time we reach 30. All pneumonia needs is a weak or distracted immune system to allow it to grow and become a fatal illness.

Covid19 opens the door to the thing that would eventually get us in the end.

Most who have/are dying are at the end zone of their lives, covid just tipped the balance.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Underlying conditions. "

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Covid (corona viruses are the common cold virus) doesn't kill. Underlying issues kill. Pneumonia is the main killer.

Pneumonia is a bacteria, it lives within most of us h the time we reach 30. All pneumonia needs is a weak or distracted immune system to allow it to grow and become a fatal illness.

Covid19 opens the door to the thing that would eventually get us in the end.

Most who have/are dying are at the end zone of their lives, covid just tipped the balance.

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For some Covid tips the balance a long f img way, in some cases by 30 years or more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it "

These vaccines are very very safe. Do the right thing for yourself and those around you.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

People who have decided they are not getting the vaccine can do what they like, it is still a free country so far.

Whether in time you will have to get it to travel abroad as you do other vaccinations (to some countries) it remains to be seen and if it happens then they will either get jabbed or not travel, again their choice.

It is unlikely that their minds will change, but i just wish some of them they would stop trying to convince others not to because it is 'unsafe' - says who ? and i dont mean the world health who !!

just like we will not change the minds of those still meeting for sex off here, partying the night away or going to grannies for tea, their lives, their families and their consciences and i am sure they are all clear ones, whether they are right, or wrong who knows and i for one dont care i do what i want and let them do what they want as long as they stay away from me (but then everyone stays away from me anyway).

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England

Room temperature iq.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it "

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it. "

I don't know the answer, but I think it's important to communicate risk and what's happening. Obviously, as noted, the risk of blood clots has not actually been elevated by the vaccine.

People are free to make their own choices, but it's important that they're in full possession of facts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A lot of people will wish to wait and see the stats of side effects, and there are many, some insignificant, some debilitating for a few days and some life threatening or deadly. That risk may be more than judged sensible in those at risk or those who’d rather be cautious.

Nobody has the right to condemn another’s choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it.

I don't know the answer, but I think it's important to communicate risk and what's happening. Obviously, as noted, the risk of blood clots has not actually been elevated by the vaccine.

People are free to make their own choices, but it's important that they're in full possession of facts."

I haven’t said the risks of blood clots has been elevated. I simply stated that because of the press coverage people are deciding to not have the vaccine.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it.

I don't know the answer, but I think it's important to communicate risk and what's happening. Obviously, as noted, the risk of blood clots has not actually been elevated by the vaccine.

People are free to make their own choices, but it's important that they're in full possession of facts.

I haven’t said the risks of blood clots has been elevated. I simply stated that because of the press coverage people are deciding to not have the vaccine. "

No, I know you didn't.

I'm reading, because people have been scared by the press coverage, which is not a true representation of the risk, they're not getting the vaccine.

So we (society) have a duty to give people the best information to make their choices.

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By *ittlekinks38Woman
over a year ago

outside belfast x

Ppl die all the time! But definitely covid will go on killing for some time am sure it's not just gonna disappear overnight its a deadly virus and even getting the jabs don't make you ammune...it's a right bitch but what can ya do?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it.

I don't know the answer, but I think it's important to communicate risk and what's happening. Obviously, as noted, the risk of blood clots has not actually been elevated by the vaccine.

People are free to make their own choices, but it's important that they're in full possession of facts.

I haven’t said the risks of blood clots has been elevated. I simply stated that because of the press coverage people are deciding to not have the vaccine.

No, I know you didn't.

I'm reading, because people have been scared by the press coverage, which is not a true representation of the risk, they're not getting the vaccine.

So we (society) have a duty to give people the best information to make their choices."

They have decided to take a wait and see approach. Which is their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Because it's a deadly disease.

"

With a 98% survival rate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Because people are still wondering why people are still dieing from Covid.

Remember, if you get knocked down by a bus but have had a positive covid test within the last 28 days you have officially died of covid, even though any fool knows that it was the bus hitting you at high speed that was the likely rout cause."

Exactly this, so actually the statistics are wrong for covid deaths. Some big cheese even admitted this a few weeks ago. I can't remember who unfortunately

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Recent press coverage in the news on taking the vac is now putting people off, I am not sure I want it now, I know some have point blanked refused.

I would rather stay isolated than take it

I know at least 4 people who are now not getting the jab after the recent coverage regarding the blood clots.

Most of them have no plans to travel abroad this year so said they will wait til at least next year even if they do get it.

I don't know the answer, but I think it's important to communicate risk and what's happening. Obviously, as noted, the risk of blood clots has not actually been elevated by the vaccine.

People are free to make their own choices, but it's important that they're in full possession of facts.

I haven’t said the risks of blood clots has been elevated. I simply stated that because of the press coverage people are deciding to not have the vaccine.

No, I know you didn't.

I'm reading, because people have been scared by the press coverage, which is not a true representation of the risk, they're not getting the vaccine.

So we (society) have a duty to give people the best information to make their choices.

They have decided to take a wait and see approach. Which is their choice. "

Of course.

Society has a duty to give people the information to make truly informed choices. It sounds like society has failed in this case.

That's a separate question to their right to make their own choices.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Some big cheese even admitted this a few weeks ago. I can't remember who unfortunately "

That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. Sorry.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Because people are still wondering why people are still dieing from Covid.

Remember, if you get knocked down by a bus but have had a positive covid test within the last 28 days you have officially died of covid, even though any fool knows that it was the bus hitting you at high speed that was the likely rout cause.

Exactly this, so actually the statistics are wrong for covid deaths. Some big cheese even admitted this a few weeks ago. I can't remember who unfortunately "

The death from COVID are listed at 250 for the whole of Scotland, with that total being extrapolated from the healthboards that submitted. The deaths with COVID on the DC are around 6000.

Source ONS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think through, that concentrating deaths removes or diverts the narrative of the reason why we should vaccinate. The greatest dangers from this virus is its potential for causing life long conditions that are debilitating and May be life threatening, to all ages. Mutations may be even more deadly. Vaccination will not stop this but will certainly reduce the possibilities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why are people still dieing from covid.

Because people are still wondering why people are still dieing from Covid.

Remember, if you get knocked down by a bus but have had a positive covid test within the last 28 days you have officially died of covid, even though any fool knows that it was the bus hitting you at high speed that was the likely rout cause.

Exactly this, so actually the statistics are wrong for covid deaths. Some big cheese even admitted this a few weeks ago. I can't remember who unfortunately

The death from COVID are listed at 250 for the whole of Scotland, with that total being extrapolated from the healthboards that submitted. The deaths with COVID on the DC are around 6000.

Source ONS "

Should add, was for 2020

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I think through, that concentrating deaths removes or diverts the narrative of the reason why we should vaccinate. The greatest dangers from this virus is its potential for causing life long conditions that are debilitating and May be life threatening, to all ages. Mutations may be even more deadly. Vaccination will not stop this but will certainly reduce the possibilities"

I do think not enough has been said about long Covid, but it's definitely both death and disability

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By *irtyold manMan
over a year ago

barnsley

Covid is hear to stay. Like all virus its constantly changing like the cold virus.we can never stop it so we have to get used to it like we got used to hundreds dying from the flu every year.just hop that one mutation dosent kill in 24hrs .if you ask virus profesionals that is what they feer the most

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Because it's a deadly disease.

With a 98% survival rate "

So with a UK population of 67.6 million and a 2% death rate (your quote above) that’s 1.35 million people dying of the virus. And your think that’s an eye roll? Jeez

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Because it's a deadly disease.

With a 98% survival rate

So with a UK population of 67.6 million and a 2% death rate (your quote above) that’s 1.35 million people dying of the virus. And your think that’s an eye roll? Jeez "

I think people think in terms of individual risk not community death toll when they say things like that. (If hospitals are overwhelmed, 2% apparently might be as much as 10%)

And they don't mention that some people who contracted it a year ago are still fighting symptoms of long Covid, including those who had a mild initial infection.

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