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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

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By *acDreamyMan
over a year ago

Wirral

I'd just take what's available!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well the WHO says there is no evidence of problems with the AstraZeneca?

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By *dam_TinaCouple
over a year ago

Hampshire

Too late. I had the Astra Zeneca one this morning

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You can't request. You have to take what's available on the day.

Kier Starmer just had the AstraZeneca

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You shouldn't be telling anyone what vaccine they should have.

If in the future there is a problem with Pfizer i hope you ld be less pushy.

I have had what was offered to me . And i ll add , im extremely grateful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can’t choose.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

What were you right about ?

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By *ljamMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Just take what you're given. They've all been through the same stringent testing process and have had to meet the same standards to be approved.

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By *olgateMan
over a year ago

on the road to nowhere in particular

I have had the Pfizer vaccine and had side effects. given the choice given the choice I would have had the Oxford vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was given the Pfizer. Wasn't given a choice. Everyone I know has had the other one. We're all grateful and well.

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By *iya2015Man
over a year ago

Sutton

I had the Pfizer jab in January, I’m having my second jab tomorrow morning. There is no way in hell I’d of turned down what ever vaccine was offered to me. Thankfully after jab one I suffered no side effects, fingers crossed for tomorrow x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had Astra 2 weeks ago, tired and felt nausea the next day but other than that, all good

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

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You do not get a choice and you are wrong

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By *udewhennudeMan
over a year ago

newport

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You do realise that back in January Norway was expressing concern that 29 people had died after having the Pfizer vaccine. People get clots all the time and it’s been shown that the incidence of clots in vaccinated people is no more than those who haven’t been vaccinated.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd just take what's available! "

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You can't request. You have to take what's available on the day.

Kier Starmer just had the AstraZeneca "

No I don't have to take what's available... FFS are you for real

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You can't request. You have to take what's available on the day.

Kier Starmer just had the AstraZeneca

No I don't have to take what's available... FFS are you for real

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I shall wait... For the best Pzeizer

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By *acDreamyMan
over a year ago

Wirral

Do you choose which flu vaccine you get?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you choose which flu vaccine you get? "

Never needed it thankfully... I'm in no rush. But I want the best. OK.

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By *oomarangMan
over a year ago

Chester

I’ve had my first jab off pfizer two weeks ago and now they have ran out so I have to have my second booster of a different one which I don’t know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

I J have had the Oxford vaccine,,,a little tired next day but fine after that, considering millions in the UK have had the Oxford vaccine and no bad reports....doesnt it sound suspicious that Europe is still bad mouthing it..a week or so ago they was bad mouthing UK for not supplying them..but does seem really odd that they promote the most expensive vaccines available..are they on commission ? Certainly questions need asking..for a start how many have had the various vaccines in Europe and how many have had bloodclots ? Where was it made ? Who checked it for quality ? Who ensured storage and distribution was temperature controlled etc etc...your going off half cock without the facts..just press releases and sensationalism....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Do you choose which flu vaccine you get? "

Never needed it thankfully... I'm in no rush. But I want the best. OK.

As regards C19 vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had the AZ several weeks ago. I wanted to avoid travelling, i wanted the AZ vaccine so I'm pleased.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had the AZ several weeks ago. I wanted to avoid travelling, i wanted the AZ vaccine so I'm pleased.

Ammmmmmmmm you wanted to avoid traveling???

I don't understand... I thought the reason to get vaccinated was so you could travel

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By *ifi and dunkieCouple
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Had the AZ last week. Felt a bit rough the next day but fine after that. Weren't offered a choice but just grateful to get one anyway. If your thrown a lifeline then just take it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are not right.

Sky News (16.45) suggests risk of blood clots is actually reduced not raised after the Oxford vaccine.

Why on earth would you be bragging about what you see as some kind of victory?

Let people decide for themselves just as you are obviously doing!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more. "

France, Italy and Germany have suspended use of Astrazeneca vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You are not right.

Sky News (16.45) suggests risk of blood clots is actually reduced not raised after the Oxford vaccine.

Why on earth would you be bragging about what you see as some kind of victory?

Let people decide for themselves just as you are obviously doing!"

I'm not `Bragging` Jassssssuuusss.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more.

France, Italy and Germany have suspended use of Astrazeneca vaccine."

Ha, I knew this would become the next vaccine hysteria with the extremely kneejerk overcautious approach from a few countries without normal people actually really understanding anything relating to the bloodclot reporting.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Had the AZ last week. Felt a bit rough the next day but fine after that. Weren't offered a choice but just grateful to get one anyway. If your thrown a lifeline then just take it."

Very much so. This is not the time to ask for a specific vaccine - they have all passed the tests and the stories around them change almost hourly.

To me (and I am actually pro European in every sense) this is a game of politics played by the European community which really nobody can afford to play.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more.

France, Italy and Germany have suspended use of Astrazeneca vaccine."

Suspended based on the precautionary principle. Hence no evidence that there is an increase in blood clots but they want to study the data. There have been less that 40 reported blood clot cases after 17 million vaccinations with the AZ vaccine. If you randomly take 17 million people without the vaccine and monitor them over 2 months, greater than 40 people will get blood clots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not `Bragging` Jassssssuuusss.

“Wasn’t I right? Choose your vaccine”

Yes you were.

The UK has administered 11million doses of the Oxford vaccination and will continue to use it. WHO is recommending its usage.

Your thread is promoting fear and uncertainty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Had the AZ last week. Felt a bit rough the next day but fine after that. Weren't offered a choice but just grateful to get one anyway. If your thrown a lifeline then just take it.

Very much so. This is not the time to ask for a specific vaccine - they have all passed the tests and the stories around them change almost hourly.

To me (and I am actually pro European in every sense) this is a game of politics played by the European community which really nobody can afford to play. "

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more. "
this is political as opposed to actually being about safety. Its already been addressed several times that your no more likely to get blood clots with the vaccine than If you didn't have it.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more.

France, Italy and Germany have suspended use of Astrazeneca vaccine.

Exactly, someone's fucked up on reading the data and gone into hysteria mode and it's gone viral

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

Boom boom!

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By *lad21Man
over a year ago

Northumberland

Did you ask which company made your measles, smallpox or tetanus vaccine? Polio?

According to Professor Spiegelhalter no alarm or surprise at all with what's been reported and the numbers are well within normal occurrences of blood clots with how many have been vaccinated. But he's just a leading scientist so there's no point listening to him...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Although I'm unsure about the vaccine for possible unknown side effects in the future (particularly the Pfizer one), this just strikes me as nasty politics/game playing by those in charge in europe.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

What if you don't have a choice?

I don't think they give you a menu.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

I know in the UK that you can’t choose which vaccine you get. I assume from your post that this is not the case in the ROI

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down.

I know in the UK that you can’t choose which vaccine you get. I assume from your post that this is not the case in the ROI"

Ahh maybe, didn't notice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just tune into Sky News. I'll say no more.

France, Italy and Germany have suspended use of Astrazeneca vaccine."

This has more to do with a Europe wide shortage of vaccines and politics than safety but as you don’t appear to be the brightest spark you can make your own opinion.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

I've had the, pfizer vaccine. Didn't feel a thing and, no side, effects at all. I've also got 3 relatives, who had the oxford vaccine and each one of them has been ill. One cousin was ill for 3 days,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There are cases of people having blood clots who have had the Pfizer vaccine, the amount is similar to those who have had the AZ vaccine however there is no evidence yet that any Covid vaccine is causing blood clots.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

Interesting the media outlets have purged the word “Oxford”

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By *r-OreoMan
over a year ago

telford

Sorry what do you mean? So you think European countries have stopped using the Oxford vaccine so they can get more quantities of the Pfizer one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you choose which flu vaccine you get?

Never needed it thankfully... I'm in no rush. But I want the best. OK."

I'm intrigued what you base "the best" on? What are your deciding factors to make your choice the best in your opinion?

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By *ale_seeking_funMan
over a year ago

reading

Correct ! Well said original poster just scaremongering.

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

Bit of scaremongering going on in this thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My experience of any vaccine is that you have a reaction which is natural as your body responds to something foreign. If it didn't then it usually indicates there's something wrong with your natural immune system.

Hysteria is the new phenomena.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

25 cases in the Pfizer vaccine 28 in the oxford one in the uk, which is no higher than people who have not had one at all. Seems like the eu are looking for another excuse.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I actually think allowing people to opt for the vaccine they are most comfortable recieving, will help increase vaccine uptake.

I know some G.Ps do discuss both and allow you to have the one you're most confident with.

I suspect it's simply impractical for vaccination centres to be able to offer a more tailored service as yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

What are you ‘right ‘ about?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You are not right.

Sky News (16.45) suggests risk of blood clots is actually reduced not raised after the Oxford vaccine.

Why on earth would you be bragging about what you see as some kind of victory?

Let people decide for themselves just as you are obviously doing!"

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"You are not right.

Sky News (16.45) suggests risk of blood clots is actually reduced not raised after the Oxford vaccine.

Why on earth would you be bragging about what you see as some kind of victory?

Let people decide for themselves just as you are obviously doing!

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

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So what makes you think the Pfizer one is better?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

Which vaccine are you referring to then?

The AstraZeneca/Oxford is the same thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I had the AZ several weeks ago. I wanted to avoid travelling, i wanted the AZ vaccine so I'm pleased.

Ammmmmmmmm you wanted to avoid traveling???

I don't understand... I thought the reason to get vaccinated was so you could travel"

I didn't want to travel far to get my jab. If i wanted a choice of vaccine i would have to go to a hospital that was offering the vaccine that i chose.

I wanted the AZ vaccine, my GP offered it so i went there ... 5 mins walk from home.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had the AZ several weeks ago. I wanted to avoid travelling, i wanted the AZ vaccine so I'm pleased.

Ok now I understand. Hope your well etc... X

Ammmmmmmmm you wanted to avoid traveling???

I don't understand... I thought the reason to get vaccinated was so you could travel

I didn't want to travel far to get my jab. If i wanted a choice of vaccine i would have to go to a hospital that was offering the vaccine that i chose.

I wanted the AZ vaccine, my GP offered it so i went there ... 5 mins walk from home."

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

There is no evidence that one is any less of a risk than every other vaccine that is out there

Stop spreading miss information pls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Right about what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do you choose which flu vaccine you get?

Never needed it thankfully... I'm in no rush. But I want the best. OK."

Did you know Oxford is better than Pfizer at preventing hospitalisation and death after one dose?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I had the AZ several weeks ago. I wanted to avoid travelling, i wanted the AZ vaccine so I'm pleased.

Ok now I understand. Hope your well etc... X

Ammmmmmmmm you wanted to avoid traveling???

I don't understand... I thought the reason to get vaccinated was so you could travel

I didn't want to travel far to get my jab. If i wanted a choice of vaccine i would have to go to a hospital that was offering the vaccine that i chose.

I wanted the AZ vaccine, my GP offered it so i went there ... 5 mins walk from home."

Ok, now I understand. I hope you're well X Best Wishes

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

"I’ve had my first jab off pfizer two weeks ago and now they have ran out so I have to have my second booster of a different one which I don’t know "

You will receive Pfizer. They are holding it back for those needing 2nd vaccinations.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

Which vaccine are you referring to then?

The AstraZeneca/Oxford is the same thing."

Jeez I didn't realise that. Thanks for info

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest. "

Don’t sweat it

we all get em from time to time

Just report the messages then block em

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest. "

Disagreeing is one thing but that’s totally unnecessary.

Report for sure.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS
over a year ago

paisley

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest. "

Yes ive had tons of pms telling me im uneducated or i am the reason lockdowns arent lifted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest. "

Why are they wishing you dead.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

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have all the answers and data do you ?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

You mean the hysteria you're helping to spread?

Hopefully you won't catch covid and become seriously ill while you're sitting on that high horse waiting for the 'best' vaccine.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

Which vaccine are you referring to then?

The AstraZeneca/Oxford is the same thing.

Jeez I didn't realise that. Thanks for info

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/the-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-what-you-need-to-know"

Wait, so you literally don't know what you're talking about but seem to think giving out advice is a good idea?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You are not right.

Sky News (16.45) suggests risk of blood clots is actually reduced not raised after the Oxford vaccine.

Why on earth would you be bragging about what you see as some kind of victory?

Let people decide for themselves just as you are obviously doing!

I NEVER mentioned the Oxford vaccine

So what makes you think the Pfizer one is better?"

Pzeizer is 95% effective...While Astrazeneca/Oxford is 63% effective against Covid. That's Why.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

*Pfizer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry OP, I’m losing patience with this now. Every time someone asks you a reasonable question you skirt around the subject and are unable to give an answer based on facts.

You have quoted Sky News on a number of occasions and mentioned the Astrazeneca vaccine being suspended in some parts of Europe. Now when people are challenging you on your views you are saying you want the Pfizer simply because it’s more effective?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Sorry OP, I’m losing patience with this now. Every time someone asks you a reasonable question you skirt around the subject and are unable to give an answer based on facts.

Yes of course I'll request the most effective vaccine. It's been proven in clinical trials Pfizer is 95-97% effective while Azaranaca/Oxford is 63% effective against Covid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes of course I'll request the most effective vaccine. It's been proven in clinical trials Pfizer is 95-97% effective while Azaranaca/Oxford is 63% effective against Covid. "

Yes, you’ve already quoted those figures. Anyone can source them.

What was the original point of your thread and what exactly were you “shot down in flames” about on another thread?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Good luck choosing your brand of medicine. That isn't how it works in this country. That was the extent of the "shooting down" I did.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m done with this. I can’t work out whether you’re just being evasive or genuinely naive OP.

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By *ranfondoMan
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

They gave me the Pfizer one 3 weeks ago... dunno if the current AZ stuff is relevant for all or just one batch.... I see many countries are being cautious while doing extra testing, Belgium say they will give a verdict on it's use on Thursday latest.....

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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago

Shrewsbury

Too late we both had the astra

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By *radleyandRavenCouple
over a year ago

Herts

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest. "

How unfortunate and extremely uncalled for.

It is a highly emotive subject and there are obviously some with genuine fear regarding this vaccine, so people are understandably rather riled up when misinformation is spread.

People really need to be fact-checking and make up their own minds without all of the bullying or scaremongering.

I hope you get what you're hoping for if it makes you feel more comfortable about the vaccine, although I know just as many people who have been unwell with the Pfizer as they have with AstraZenaca.

I do have to ask though, what do you mean by "Survival of the fittest" at the end of your post?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for the Trolls in DM ... Wishing Me Dead. Thanks. What a lovely bunch.

Survival of the Fittest.

How unfortunate and extremely uncalled for.

It is a highly emotive subject and there are obviously some with genuine fear regarding this vaccine, so people are understandably rather riled up when misinformation is spread.

People really need to be fact-checking and make up their own minds without all of the bullying or scaremongering.

I hope you get what you're hoping for if it makes you feel more comfortable about the vaccine, although I know just as many people who have been unwell with the Pfizer as they have with AstraZenaca.

I do have to ask though, what do you mean by "Survival of the fittest" at the end of your post?"

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. The best vaccine is the one you're offered and get treated with.

They all have very good safety profiles and deliver good immunity.

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London

My understanding of the Astra-zenica vaccine was that it was an adapted flu vaccine that’s been used before so it’s been proven in the past. The Pfizer vaccine is a totally new type of cell generation vacation that’s breaking new ground for this reason I wanted to get to Astra-Zeneca but I took what I was given. Pfizer

When our children were being given the MMR vaccine we had the scare stories of it causing Autism in children this over the years has been proven to be “bs” but we’re getting out breaks of rubella now. We all have to trust the judgment of the medical profession from birth to old age.

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By *elleshellsCouple
over a year ago

North Manchester

I had the Astra Zeneca this afternoon despite hearing the horror stories on the news. I’m grateful that I’ve had it & I’m one step closer to keeping me & my family safe.

Take care everyone! And please make sure you report the dreadful people who have sent such vile messages OP xxxxx

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

Good for you but when you arrive for the jab you will be offered the one that’s there. Take it or leave it, it’s a vaccination clinic not a radio station taking requests

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By *irth VaderMan
over a year ago

glasgow

Is it just me that finds this whole scenario suspicious. Only a matter of weeks ago Europe were cajoling the U.K. for not supplying enough vaccines to them and now all of a sudden they let this news out. Looks like sabotage to me. Less than 10 people per 10m vaccines have died. I’m sure more would have died if they hadn’t had the vaccine.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

Because you're contributing to the hysteria you mentioned.

You do realise that the oxford vaccine is actually showing as more effective after one dose?

You should be grateful you live in a country where multiple vaccines are available and instead of picking fault with the one you think is worse, you should have what you're given or don't bother at all. People are sat at home counting down the minutes until they can see loved ones again and it's people like you that will slow down the vaccine roll-out and make this horrible experience last longer.

Either have a vaccine or don't, but don't spread misinformation then act like a victim when you don't get praised for your rubbish advice.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Is it just me that finds this whole scenario suspicious. Only a matter of weeks ago Europe were cajoling the U.K. for not supplying enough vaccines to them and now all of a sudden they let this news out. Looks like sabotage to me. Less than 10 people per 10m vaccines have died. I’m sure more would have died if they hadn’t had the vaccine. "

The EU banned bent bananas.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

Because you're contributing to the hysteria you mentioned.

You do realise that the oxford vaccine is actually showing as more effective after one dose?

Either have a vaccine or don't, but don't spread misinformation then act like a victim when you don't get praised for your rubbish advice."

Thank you Keeley.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

It's posts like this that help create hysteria in the first place. But then I guess some people just get a kick from creating chaos even if it damages other people. If you're worried OP, then talk to your GP and not try to spread unfounded rumours.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

I've been reading about the Oxford vaccine.

I had my 1st dose today.

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You dont get that choice...you are given what they have on the day...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

Because you're contributing to the hysteria you mentioned.

You do realise that the oxford vaccine is actually showing as more effective after one dose?

Either have a vaccine or don't, but don't spread misinformation then act like a victim when you don't get praised for your rubbish advice."

I was trying to phrase my reply... but this says it all! Thanks

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You dont get that choice...you are given what they have on the day..."

Potential exception: if your GP has reason to believe that your personal medical situation warrants one vaccine or another, that might happen.

But that's not, "I, patient, want X or Y brand". It's "X vaccine might interact badly with your medical stuff, so I, a doctor with the power to do this stuff, am requesting you get not-X vaccine"

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By *onedbodMan
over a year ago

co Galway

All the vaccine experts are out in force as usual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

Because you're contributing to the hysteria you mentioned.

You do realise that the oxford vaccine is actually showing as more effective after one dose?

Either have a vaccine or don't, but don't spread misinformation then act like a victim when you don't get praised for your rubbish advice."

Spot on post. I had the Oxford and was bloody glad to get it. I see it as a step nearer returning to normal life where I can once again enjoy my family. Scaremongering, selfish attitudes such as the OP has displayed rip my knitting!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"*Astrazeneca

I don't know why you're losing your patience with me...

Because you're contributing to the hysteria you mentioned.

You do realise that the oxford vaccine is actually showing as more effective after one dose?

Either have a vaccine or don't, but don't spread misinformation then act like a victim when you don't get praised for your rubbish advice.

I know what you nean, it stretched my groundsheet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All the vaccine experts are out in force as usual "

Some of us are experts, I'm a Campanologist.

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By *riskynriskyCouple
over a year ago

Essex.

"Sorry OP, I’m losing patience with this now. Every time someone asks you a reasonable question you skirt around the subject and are unable to give an answer based on facts.

Yes of course I'll request the most effective vaccine. It's been proven in clinical trials Pfizer is 95-97% effective while Azaranaca/Oxford is 63% effective against Covid. "

Just had a look, 67% effectiveness after first jab, 100% effectiveness against serious illness, hospitalisation and death according to the AZ website, bias yes, no more bias than Sky or BBC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Did you ask which company made your measles, smallpox or tetanus vaccine? Polio?

Spiegelhalter is one of the greatest statisticians living in the world right now too and carries a vast swathe of credibility.

If there’s not many people you follow in relation to covid, just make sure he’s one of those few

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've had the, pfizer vaccine. Didn't feel a thing and, no side, effects at all. I've also got 3 relatives, who had the oxford vaccine and each one of them has been ill. One cousin was ill for 3 days, "

That’s a sample size of 4. It takes every so lightly more than that to make scientific decisions

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By *Just meMan
over a year ago

Pontefract

"Well the WHO says there is no evidence of problems with the AstraZeneca?"

Actually I do. his is from a BMJ paper...

A spokesperson for AstraZeneca said, “Patient safety is the highest priority for AstraZeneca. Regulators have clear and stringent efficacy and safety standards for the approval of any new medicine, and that includes Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca.

“An analysis of our safety data of more than 10 million records has shown no evidence of an increased risk of pulmonary embolism or deep vein thrombosis in any defined age group, gender, batch or in any particular country with Covid-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca. In fact, the observed number of these types of events is significantly lower in those vaccinated than what would be expected among the general population.”

I have looked at the data myself. There is "less" incidence of clots with vaccine compared to general population. With vaccine 0.000073% incidence. Without vaccine 0.1%.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Well the WHO says there is no evidence of problems with the AstraZeneca?

Actually I do. his is from a BMJ paper...

I have looked at the data myself. There is "less" incidence of clots with vaccine compared to general population. With vaccine 0.000073% incidence. Without vaccine 0.1%. "

They said the WHO, not asked who lol.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Would be nice to have a choice, but as I can't get the vaccine at the moment, I'll take what I can get

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Oh look, surprise surprise.

Emer Cooke, European Medicines Agency (EMA) executive director, said there was no indication Oxford/AstraZeneca’s coronavirus vaccine was the cause of reported blood clots.

She told a virtual press conference: “I want to also stress at present there is no indication that vaccination has caused these conditions.

“They have not come up in the clinical trials and they are not listed as known side events with this vaccine.

“In clinical trials, both vaccinated people and people who received the placebo have shown some very small number of blood clot developments.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Grateful for both my jabs regardless of which it was

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Absolute rubbish

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By *aptop9Man
over a year ago

Worthing

No your were 100% wrong, latest news is that there are more clot reports from those having had Pfizer, also so Italy has announced this afternoon that its ban was political and not based on fact!!

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"No your were 100% wrong, latest news is that there are more clot reports from those having had Pfizer, also so Italy has announced this afternoon that its ban was political and not based on fact!! "

I think anyone with one ounce of grey matter could see through this EU smokescreen

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"No your were 100% wrong, latest news is that there are more clot reports from those having had Pfizer, also so Italy has announced this afternoon that its ban was political and not based on fact!! "

And I think France banned, but then declared the ban would only be for 24 hours or so... as I said before, I support the concept of the EU but on this occasion things smell a bit of political agenda... sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

take what's offered

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Absolute rubbish "

I'm way down the list of priority to be vaccinated, but when my time arrives I will request which vaccine I want well in advance from my GP.

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By *ifi-01Woman
over a year ago

north west

I am getting my first vaccine on Thursday and am just grateful to be having it, whichever one it is

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I'm way down the list of priority to be vaccinated, but when my time arrives I will request which vaccine I want well in advance from my GP."

I imagine your GP will direct you to your local vaccination centre to take what's on offer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm way down the list of priority to be vaccinated, but when my time arrives I will request which vaccine I want well in advance from my GP.

I imagine your GP will direct you to your local vaccination centre to take what's on offer. "
exactly this

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm way down the list of priority to be vaccinated, but when my time arrives I will request which vaccine I want well in advance from my GP.

I imagine your GP will direct you to your local vaccination centre to take what's on offer. "

No GPs are administering the vaccine also in their private practice here in Ireland.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"I am getting my first vaccine on Thursday and am just grateful to be having it, whichever one it is

Exactly this .... I didn’t know which one I was having until I arrived just so happened to be Pfizer ..... but I’d have welcomed it with open arms no matter which it was. Just grateful tbh

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By *ick_and_BickerCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

No. You wasn't right.

Your scaremongering and false accusations were rightly shot down.

You're welcome to not take a vaccine. In the same way service providers may be welcome to deny you their patronage.

No. You can't request a particular brand, you get what your given.

I had the AZ vaccine nearly a week ago and I've had zero problems. Felt a little shivery in the shoulders the day after.

A warm bath, an early night and a couple of paracetamol fixed that.

I do wish the mods would remove or close dangerous nonsense threads.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

I'm way down the list of priority to be vaccinated, but when my time arrives I will request which vaccine I want well in advance from my GP.

I imagine your GP will direct you to your local vaccination centre to take what's on offer.

No GPs are administering the vaccine also in their private practice here in Ireland."

Might be different in Ireland but it’s not the way it works in England. When you say private you mean you pay?

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By *lbethereMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

"
You know the American’s are reporting blood clots with the Pfizer vaccines too right? The choices seem to be the same but with Covid19 itself 1 in every 200 get clots, Astra Zenica in Europe (not UK) 1 in 167,000. This is pretty much inline with those who get them any way.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You know the American’s are reporting blood clots with the Pfizer vaccines too right? The choices seem to be the same but with Covid19 itself 1 in every 200 get clots, Astra Zenica in Europe (not UK) 1 in 167,000. This is pretty much inline with those who get them any way. "

I didn't realise this until very recently. But I have alot more info now. Like all medicine there's side effects and one wouldn't want to read the leaflets attached to most listing all side effects...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

So... what was been broadcast on all news channels is complete BS

bar the suspension in 4 countries. Astra prevents blood clots apparently

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No. You wasn't right.

Your scaremongering and false accusations were rightly shot down.

You're welcome to not take a vaccine. In the same way service providers may be welcome to deny you their patronage.

No. You can't request a particular brand, you get what your given.

I had the AZ vaccine nearly a week ago and I've had zero problems. Felt a little shivery in the shoulders the day after.

A warm bath, an early night and a couple of paracetamol fixed that.

I do wish the mods would remove or close dangerous nonsense threads.

Totally agree. Luckily most of us do our research before posting half baked nonsense. Sadly some just won’t back down even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary

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By *lbethereMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

So... what was been broadcast on all news channels is complete BS

bar the suspension in 4 countries. Astra prevents blood clots apparently"

to me looks like yet another mess the European union has made for itself, no millions will refuse the Astra Zenica vaccine because of it. They already were after the Germans wrongly said it wasn’t giving too the over 60’s the french and others followed suit. then the learn’t they were wrong, how many has that killed? This will kill more. The EU has made a huge mess of this, it has and will cost them many lives.

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

I think you are right - delay after delay, scaremongering, lack of leadership and decision making will lead to many unnecessary casualties. So sad and unnecessary. I also wish the scaremongering about the different vaccines would stop over here. Let s just be grateful we had available a vaccine as quickly as we did.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

"I have had the Pfizer vaccine and had side effects. given the choice given the choice I would have had the Oxford vaccine "

I had Pfizer vaccine and experienced nothing - now wondering if it will protect me.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

And given the age group most vaccines have been given too, suggests they are all very safe.

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

Not sure it is being used now as first jab. So you could be waiting a longtime. Being the most expensive and hardest to move and store, I suspect it will just dissappear from us in coming months, as the other vaccines come online.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times. "

``Trotting in on my high horse`` Which I'm not...

I'm not ``preventing the professionals from doing their job`` in anyway.

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By *aughtyYorkGentMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"You can’t choose. "

My parents were both asked which one they wanted; the same vaccination centre was doing different vaccines on different days.

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By *ir-spunk-alotMan
over a year ago

Southern England

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

What exactly are you right about?? And is it worth boasting about?

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By *iobhan123Woman
over a year ago

Deal

"I apologise if I have offended anybody in this post.

Good Luck.

I was just voicing my opinion... & Once Again I'll Say I Will Request Pzeizer When Hysteria Calms Down."

Sadly, you may not have a choice, very little of the Pfizer vaccine in circulation now, we only have enough for our second doses. AZ deliveries have really escalated, have 10k doses to deliver next week and we will use every drop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ll take my advice from the WHO thanks.

40 cases in 17 million doses. Think I’ll take my chances.

There is a difference between association and causation x

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By *lbethereMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I’ll take my advice from the WHO thanks.

40 cases in 17 million doses. Think I’ll take my chances.

There is a difference between association and causation x"

I’m not sure you want to be listening to Rodger Daltry and the boys on Covid to be fair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

No. You wasn't right.

Your scaremongering and false accusations were rightly shot down.

You're welcome to not take a vaccine. In the same way service providers may be welcome to deny you their patronage.

No. You can't request a particular brand, you get what your given.

I had the AZ vaccine nearly a week ago and I've had zero problems. Felt a little shivery in the shoulders the day after.

A warm bath, an early night and a couple of paracetamol fixed that.

I do wish the mods would remove or close dangerous nonsense threads.

Agree with you about mods closing threads.

I have no gripe with the op, its her choice what she wants to do, no one here knows if she has or will be given a choice.

What i do think is (not you) there are too many people on the virus forums giving advice, when obviously all they do is sit behind a keyboard and use google to state such bollo**s, unfortunately i cant name them, but im sure we all know who im on about.

These people (well mainly one) shoots people down who don’t agree with her, constantly try to make people feel stupid, gives advice virtually making out shes a scienctist or similar, i think people like that should not be allowed to voice the way they do here.

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By *arney MagrewMan
over a year ago

Taplow

"You can’t choose. "

Indeed. It’s not a cocktail bar.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times.

``Trotting in on my high horse`` Which I'm not...

I'm not ``preventing the professionals from doing their job`` in anyway."

You most certainly have trotted in on a high horse, you just fell off it and face planted.

I havent said you've prevented anyone doing their job, however, you literally have no idea about these vaccines, yet you think you get to choose which is best, you don't. That's why it's best to sit down and let the people that actually know what they are talking about to advise on the vaccines. Either take what you're given or don't take it at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe you’ll have COVID by then and pass it on to loved ones

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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicestershire

If letting people have a choice over which vaccine to have over comes people's fears and get themselves protected is a good idea.

Whether I or other's disagree with the concept on this one or the other one being more effective has very little importance in the grand schemes of things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You can’t choose.

Indeed. It’s not a cocktail bar. "

Very true, you don't get to choose your poison, it's not a bar

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times. "
very well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had the sputnik v

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By *edVelveteenCouple
over a year ago

Heaven in the Midlands

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

You shouldn't be telling anyone what vaccine they should have.

If in the future there is a problem with Pfizer i hope you ld be less pushy.

I have had what was offered to me . And i ll add , im extremely grateful."

This, absolutely. And there is no evidence at the moment that Astra caused the clotting problems. When will people remember every single medicine, vaccine, prophylactic comes with a huge list of side effects ranging from common to very rare, even the panadol that you take, probably without even thinking about it. You choose what you want to take, if any, but don't assume you are qualified to speak for others.

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By *ick_and_BickerCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

"You can’t choose.

Indeed. It’s not a cocktail bar.

Very true, you don't get to choose your poison, it's not a bar

If you don't want to take it, don't take it.

But please don't be implying the vaccine is poison.

That's frankly stupid.

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

Passed Beyond Reach

European Medical Association have said today there are no links between AZ vaccine and blood clots. The medical evidence had said that you stand more chance of pulmonary embolism from covid than AZ vaccine

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By *tue555Man
over a year ago

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"European Medical Association have said today there are no links between AZ vaccine and blood clots. The medical evidence had said that you stand more chance of pulmonary embolism from covid than AZ vaccine"

Correction "European Medicines Agency"

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

This. The levels are actually lower than in a control group.

It’s all politics and nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well the WHO says there is no evidence of problems with the AstraZeneca?"
I had that one a couple weeks ago and I'm fine

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

local, but not too local

I’m pretty sure they’re all fine.

Better for you than Covid, anyway.

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By *empsey and hotpieceMan
over a year ago

North west

After millions of doses given,there’s bound to be a few people get blood clots, there will also be people who die and some who have car crashes, will the vaccine be blamed for anything bad happening to anyone who’s had one?

I’ll be rolling my sleeve up Saturday and don’t give a shit which vaccine it is.

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

Scaremongering going on here, take whichever vaccine available to you. Protect yourself, friends and family

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well the WHO says there is no evidence of problems with the AstraZeneca?"

Because there isn't! I had Astra 2 weeks ago. Not even a sore arm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

What were you right about ? "

Absolutely nothing??

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times.

``Trotting in on my high horse`` Which I'm not...

I'm not ``preventing the professionals from doing their job`` in anyway.

You most certainly have trotted in on a high horse, you just fell off it and face planted.

I haven't ``face planted anywhere`` and as I said earlier I'm not on a ``high horse``.

I have apologised earlier on in this thread and it's just not being accepted in this thread. I'm sensing an air of aggressiveness in your comments.

I will not be told to ``shut up`` as you said earlier and ``let the professionals do their job``, as I said I've no intention of preventing the professionals from do their job. I know what I want and I will get it. What happened to freedom of speech and voicing an opinion...

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS
over a year ago

paisley

Freedom of speech was eradicated June 2020

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s a sample size of 4. It takes every so lightly more than that to make scientific decisions

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Wasn't I Right... Choose your Vaccine

I was shot down here a few weeks ago. I shall not queue for any vaccine. Request from your GP pfizer vaccine

Maybe you ought to get the information before trotting in on your high horse and telling us how right you were.

You were totally wrong and you should take the vaccine you are offered, you're lucky you can even have one, there are many people that would love to have it but can't.

Sometimes the best course of action is to sit down and shut up and let the professionals do their job, this is exactly one of those times.

``Trotting in on my high horse`` Which I'm not...

I'm not ``preventing the professionals from doing their job`` in anyway.

You most certainly have trotted in on a high horse, you just fell off it and face planted.

I haven't ``face planted anywhere`` and as I said earlier I'm not on a ``high horse``.

I have apologised earlier on in this thread and it's just not being accepted in this thread. I'm sensing an air of aggressiveness in your comments.

'I know what I want and I will get it'.

This speaks volumes. You didnt even know that the Oxford vaccine was the same as the astrazeneca vaccine, what on earth makes you think you know which vaccine is better?

Freedom of speech is fine, and so is an opinion, but you spouted nonsense as fact, and told people to go and get a certain vaccine, that's not just an opinion, that is giving advice/orders that were based on information that was incorrect. You were joining in with the hysteria spreading and it helps nobody.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

^^^^^^^ Yes that's correct I didn't realise the AstraZeneca & The Oxford were both the same. I clearly admitted that earlier in thread. I think it's quite understandable why one would think they were both not the same as they were under 2 different names.

I believe one particular vaccine has the highest percentage of efficacy. I have done my research. And from day one I've said that's the one I want. They did manufacture Viagra also and that has proven to be highly successful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please will someone put me out of my misery and get this thread to 175 posts.

I have never witnessed anyone evade responsibility for what they said quite like the OP

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Myself.

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