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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " This has already been proven to not be the case. So not sure why they would suspend it. | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later." I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) | |||
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"How do complications compare to background levels? My understanding is that no signal of serious side effects other than allergies has been detected in any of the vaccines so far. The safest, most effective, and quickest vaccines in human history. Science is wonderful "the article i saw last night is that research is exactly why it has been suspended they want to take a pause to make sure the clots are line with what would be normal levels in the population and checking that there is not an issue is not confirmation that they think there currently is it also said that covid as a vascular illness (is that the right terminology) can also lead to similar issues so even if a link can be found we would still need to weigh up the risk vs reward of the vaccine since contracting the illness could have the same outcome anyway plus additional complications | |||
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"How do complications compare to background levels? My understanding is that no signal of serious side effects other than allergies has been detected in any of the vaccines so far. The safest, most effective, and quickest vaccines in human history. Science is wonderful
the article i saw last night is that research is exactly why it has been suspended
they want to take a pause to make sure the clots are line with what would be normal levels in the population and checking that there is not an issue is not confirmation that they think there currently is
it also said that covid as a vascular illness (is that the right terminology) can also lead to similar issues so even if a link can be found we would still need to weigh up the risk vs reward of the vaccine since contracting the illness could have the same outcome anyway plus additional complications "It may be an appropriate precaution. I just dislike "precautions are being taken therefore vaccines are bad", or "vaccines have risks therefore they shouldn't be allowed". | |||
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"How do complications compare to background levels? My understanding is that no signal of serious side effects other than allergies has been detected in any of the vaccines so far. The safest, most effective, and quickest vaccines in human history. Science is wonderful
the article i saw last night is that research is exactly why it has been suspended
they want to take a pause to make sure the clots are line with what would be normal levels in the population and checking that there is not an issue is not confirmation that they think there currently is
it also said that covid as a vascular illness (is that the right terminology) can also lead to similar issues so even if a link can be found we would still need to weigh up the risk vs reward of the vaccine since contracting the illness could have the same outcome anyway plus additional complications
It may be an appropriate precaution.
I just dislike "precautions are being taken therefore vaccines are bad", or "vaccines have risks therefore they shouldn't be allowed"."agree 100% | |||
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"The cynic might also say that stalling vaccination in the ROI might take some of the heat off their rather lacklustre performance in its rollout" | |||
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"Mr here. Or that the Oxford vaccine has turned into some sort of post brexit political football between the UK and Europe. " This | |||
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"This is the EU being anti British again pathetic" Love to agree...but!! Norway, Denmark (therefore Iceland), Latvia and Austria  have temp suspended use of Astra as after 5 000 000 vaccinations throughout Europe there have been 30 reported blood clots.
In the general population out of 5 000 000 people then on average you would expect about 200 in a year. So over a 2 month period about 1/6 of that.....hey...my matches makes that about 30. Who would have thought it.
It is the "experts" in individual countries that have hot the jitters....the EU drug agencies have clearly said there is no evidence of a link and vaccinations should continue.
Maybe these countries "experts" need to follow the facts and ignore Karen from facebook?? | |||
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"How do complications compare to background levels? My understanding is that no signal of serious side effects other than allergies has been detected in any of the vaccines so far. The safest, most effective, and quickest vaccines in human history. Science is wonderful
the article i saw last night is that research is exactly why it has been suspended
they want to take a pause to make sure the clots are line with what would be normal levels in the population and checking that there is not an issue is not confirmation that they think there currently is
it also said that covid as a vascular illness (is that the right terminology) can also lead to similar issues so even if a link can be found we would still need to weigh up the risk vs reward of the vaccine since contracting the illness could have the same outcome anyway plus additional complications "Yeah pretty much this. It's also A possible reason why a lot of the reported side effects are blood related. Important to note though that the incidence in relation to those vaccinated is very very small. Other countries seem to be scared of the political backlash rather than the pros and cons. For the UK this could end up as a very good thing as could see us as one of the first Western countries to go back to normal. | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists)" Please have it as soon as possible! | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) Please have it as soon as possible!" Don't worry, I will  | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) Please have it as soon as possible! Don't worry, I will "For someone promoting it so aggressively and shooting everyone else down who has doubts, I thought you would have been one of the first to have it? Or are you holding back to see how everyone else you have encouraged to have it gets on? Very cunning Baldrick! | |||
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"So that is 30 out of how many millions of doses given . Bit of scaremongering again i think " Well Italy, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Latvia, Ireland and now Thailand according to The Telegraph have suspended it. Scaremongering? | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) Please have it as soon as possible! Don't worry, I will
For someone promoting it so aggressively and shooting everyone else down who has doubts, I thought you would have been one of the first to have it?
Or are you holding back to see how everyone else you have encouraged to have it gets on?
Very cunning Baldrick!"I'm 35 with no relevant health conditions and I don't work in healthcare or social services. Why might I not have had the jab yet, where it's being rolled out oldest to youngest or for people with medical or occupational need? ... Obvs a conspiracy  | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) Please have it as soon as possible! Don't worry, I will
For someone promoting it so aggressively and shooting everyone else down who has doubts, I thought you would have been one of the first to have it?
Or are you holding back to see how everyone else you have encouraged to have it gets on?
Very cunning Baldrick!
I'm 35 with no relevant health conditions and I don't work in healthcare or social services.
Why might I not have had the jab yet, where it's being rolled out oldest to youngest or for people with medical or occupational need?
... Obvs a conspiracy "Pricesless | |||
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"So that is 30 out of how many millions of doses given . Bit of scaremongering again i think Well Italy, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Latvia, Ireland and now Thailand according to The Telegraph have suspended it. Scaremongering?" The report also asked a question about the eu and their ongoing argument with oxford az and how some of the eu countried listed are trying to back out of the central vaccine conglomerate and source their own vaccines due to the slow roll out by the eu | |||
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"What looks like the worst vaccine to get currently might end up being the safest long term. Nobody will know until later. I'll take any of them, and I'd be happy for my medically fragile relatives to have any of them. (Including the one who had a life threatening vaccine reaction years ago - yeah, the risk exists) Please have it as soon as possible! Don't worry, I will
For someone promoting it so aggressively and shooting everyone else down who has doubts, I thought you would have been one of the first to have it?
Or are you holding back to see how everyone else you have encouraged to have it gets on?
Very cunning Baldrick!
I'm 35 with no relevant health conditions and I don't work in healthcare or social services.
Why might I not have had the jab yet, where it's being rolled out oldest to youngest or for people with medical or occupational need?
... Obvs a conspiracy "So you have the same medical qualifications as Bill Gates? Do you both think you are better qualified than these - Professsor Sucharit Bhakdi MD, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology, Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene, Johannes Gutenberg University of Mainz (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and Thailand) Dr Marco Chiesa MD FRCPsych, Consultant Psychiatrist and Visiting Professor, University College London (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Italy) Dr C Stephen Frost BSc MBChB Specialist in Diagnostic Radiology, Stockholm, Sweden (Medical Doctor) (United Kingdom and Sweden) Dr Margareta Griesz-Brisson MD PhD, Consultant Neurologist and Neurophysiologist (studied Medicine in Freiburg, Germany, speciality training for Neurology at New York University, Fellowship in Neurophysiology at Mount Sinai Medical Centre, New York City; PhD in Pharmacology with special interest in chronic low level neurotoxicology and effects of environmental factors on brain health), Medical Director, The London Neurology and Pain Clinic (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Germany and United Kingdom) Professor Martin Haditsch MD PhD, Specialist (Austria) in Hygiene and Microbiology, Specialist (Germany) in Microbiology, Virology, Epidemiology/Infectious Diseases, Specialist (Austria) in Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine, Medical Director, TravelMedCenter, Leonding, Austria, Medical Director, Labor Hannover MVZ GmbH (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Austria and Germany) Professor Stefan Hockertz, Professor of Toxicology and Pharmacologym, European registered Toxicologist, Specialist in Immunology and Immunotoxicology, CEO tpi consult GmbH. (Scientist) (Germany) Dr Lissa Johnson, BSc BA(Media) MPsych(Clin) PhD, Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Psychologist, Expertise in the social psychology of torture, atrocity, collective violence and fear propaganda, Former member Australian Psychological Society Public Interest Advisory Group (Clinical Psychologist and Behavioural Scientist) (Australia) Professor Ulrike Kämmerer PhD, Associate Professor of Experimental Reproductive Immunology and Tumor Biology at the Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, University Hospital of Würzburg, Germany, Trained molecular virologist (Diploma, PhD-Thesis) and Immunologist (Habilitation), Remains engaged in active laboratory research (Molecular Biology, Cell Biology (Scientist) (Germany) Associate Professor Michael Palmer MD, Department of Chemistry (studied Medicine and Medical Microbiology in Germany, has taught Biochemistry since 2001 in present university in Canada; focus on Pharmacology, metabolism, biological membranes, computer programming; experimental research focus on bacterial toxins and antibiotics (Daptomycin); has written a textbook on Biochemical Pharmacology, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada (Medical Doctor and Scientist) (Canada and Germany) Professor Karina Reiss PhD, Professor of Biochemistry, Christian Albrecht University of Kiel, Expertise in Cell Biology, Biochemistry (Scientist) (Germany) Professor Andreas Sönnichsen MD, Professor of General Practice and Family Medicine, Department of General Practice and Family Medicine, Center of Public Health, Medical University of Vienna, Vienna (Medical Doctor) (Austria) Dr Michael Yeadon BSc (Joint Honours in Biochemistry and Toxicology) PhD (Pharmacology), Formerly Vice President & Chief Scientific Officer Allergy & Respiratory, Pfizer Global R&D; Co-founder & CEO, Ziarco Pharma Ltd.; Independent Consultant (Scientist) (United Kingdom) | |||
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No. I'm not at the front of the queue yet. The NHS is rolling out the vaccine by age and need, it's not my turn yet (as evidenced by my age, health conditions and occupation).
I have no idea what a copy paste of random people has to do with me, this conversation, or anything. | |||
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"Report on the radio say 30 people worldwide reported bloodclots. But no direct link to vaccine as already had undrrlying conditions ?????" yup. And if you look at the Pfizer one there has been some reports of blood clots too.. although not as many but no one stopping that | |||
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No. I'm not at the front of the queue yet. The NHS is rolling out the vaccine by age and need, it's not my turn yet (as evidenced by my age, health conditions and occupation).
I have no idea what a copy paste of random people has to do with me, this conversation, or anything. "I thought with your in-depth knowledge of this subject you would have heard of all these professionals? They have formed an organisation called Doctors for Covid Ethics and have written an open letter to Emer Cooke, Executive Director of the European Medicines Agency. In the letter they voice their joint concerns over the 'vaccines' and have 7 questions that they would like answered. This letter is available to all on line. They are not what you would call 'anti-vaxxers' or 'conspiracy nuts', but some of the most qualified in their profession. However, I am sure you will try and dismiss this letter and the people who put their name to it as you do with anything you don't agree with. Good luck with this one though! | |||
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No. I'm not at the front of the queue yet. The NHS is rolling out the vaccine by age and need, it's not my turn yet (as evidenced by my age, health conditions and occupation).
I have no idea what a copy paste of random people has to do with me, this conversation, or anything.
I thought with your in-depth knowledge of this subject you would have heard of all these professionals?
They have formed an organisation called Doctors for Covid Ethics and have written an open letter to Emer Cooke, Executive Director of the European Medicines Agency.
In the letter they voice their joint concerns over the 'vaccines' and have 7 questions that they would like answered. This letter is available to all on line.
They are not what you would call 'anti-vaxxers' or 'conspiracy nuts', but some of the most qualified in their profession.
However, I am sure you will try and dismiss this letter and the people who put their name to it as you do with anything you don't agree with.
Good luck with this one though!"I don't give a monkey's. Hope this helps | |||
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"Got mine Friday. Still alive, seems safe enough to me haha lol " Early days, hope you stay well though. | |||
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"Keep it civil please If you don't want people to converse with you, please ignore their posts" I will re-phrase my reply to her, would that be ok? | |||
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"Keep it civil please If you don't want people to converse with you, please ignore their posts I will re-phrase my reply to her, would that be ok?" No, just ignore each other please | |||
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"Keep it civil please If you don't want people to converse with you, please ignore their posts I will re-phrase my reply to her, would that be ok? No, just ignore each other please" I am used to being ignored on here but you answered me and the carried on anyway on other posts so it seems a bit strange 
For future reference to anyone it applies to, if you are going to post answer the post rather than attack the poster
Also for others this applies to....if you don't want a persons attention then don't answer their posts where they may reply
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"30 people out of 33 million vaccinated I will take those odds "I did last Friday, feel great and pleased to have it. Roll on normal life. | |||
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"Keep it civil please If you don't want people to converse with you, please ignore their posts I will re-phrase my reply to her, would that be ok? No, just ignore each other please I am used to being ignored on here but you answered me and the carried on anyway on other posts so it seems a bit strange
For future reference to anyone it applies to, if you are going to post answer the post rather than attack the poster
Also for others this applies to....if you don't want a persons attention then don't answer their posts where they may reply
Back to the OP"I just wanted to hear others views or concerns just to compare to my own. Didn't want an argument about it...we are all entittled to our own views but that dosen't mean any of us are right or wrong  | |||
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No. I'm not at the front of the queue yet. The NHS is rolling out the vaccine by age and need, it's not my turn yet (as evidenced by my age, health conditions and occupation).
I have no idea what a copy paste of random people has to do with me, this conversation, or anything.
I thought with your in-depth knowledge of this subject you would have heard of all these professionals?
They have formed an organisation called Doctors for Covid Ethics and have written an open letter to Emer Cooke, Executive Director of the European Medicines Agency.
In the letter they voice their joint concerns over the 'vaccines' and have 7 questions that they would like answered. This letter is available to all on line.
They are not what you would call 'anti-vaxxers' or 'conspiracy nuts', but some of the most qualified in their profession.
However, I am sure you will try and dismiss this letter and the people who put their name to it as you do with anything you don't agree with.
Good luck with this one though!"Mike Yeadon signed it. That's all I need to know. He's a brilliant pseudoscientist and professional bullshitter. In October 2020, he stated "the Covid pandemic is effectively over and there's no need for vaccines" and he denies a bunch of perfectly well proven things, like the efficacy of PCR. He made up random statistics to try and argue for a "herd immunity" approach and has acted absolutely in opposition to the principles of the scientific method throughout the pandemic. The fact he used to work for Pfizer is irrelevant. Max Clifford used to work in media relations, but (if he were alive) you wouldn't ask him to represent you now, would you? Discredited, the same as Yeadon. Nothing with his name on it is credible. I've read the letter and the "science" is highly dubious at best. | |||
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"So that is 30 out of how many millions of doses given . Bit of scaremongering again i think Well Italy, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Latvia, Ireland and now Thailand according to The Telegraph have suspended it. Scaremongering?" These stupid countries have definitely not consulted the fab sage forum, and should definitely plow on, regardless of there silly experts having fears. | |||
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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " The blood clot issue is ridiculous. There have been 15 cases of people who have had a vaccination getting a DVT. With the number of people who have had the vaccine, if you work out the statistics you would expect more than 15 to have had a dvt anyway! Taking into account the age and vulnerability of those that have had the vaccine up to now the figures should be considerably more! | |||
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"I believe the statistics show the rate of people suffering clots is actually higher in the general population than in the group of recently vaccinated! It’s more political than it is about science." This is what I've taken away from the information I've read. | |||
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"I believe the statistics show the rate of people suffering clots is actually higher in the general population than in the group of recently vaccinated! It’s more political than it is about science. This is what I've taken away from the information I've read." Same here | |||
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"Got mine Friday. Still alive, seems safe enough to me haha lol " Got mine Friday. Still alive User no longer on site Worrying  | |||
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"According to a senior Norwegian physician the people who have had a reaction to the vaccine are "young individuals". Assuming the Norwegians are vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable first this would probably suggest that these young individuals have underlying conditions that are more likely to be the cause of clotting." I had raised D-dimer in November (I think it was) and had to have scans for possible thrombosis. I have reduced mobility due to disability. This is obviously before I had my vaccine. Anyway, all negative, no clots, but it was heavily suspected and I'm young. It happens, some clots in young women especially are linked with contraceptive pills (rare, but still happen) or occur during or due to pregnancy, post surgery etc. As far as I have managed to deduce, the frequency of clotting events is no higher now than it was before the vaccines were approved. It's just everyone is hyper aware and are logging everything. Thrombosis is not a notifiable condition so it's unlikely the true frequency of them pre vaccines is even properly recorded. | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension " Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better "personally speaking,I think it’s sour grapes | |||
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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " Looks like Europe are all slowly suspending this jab, based on 30 people. similar the the Pfizer one in the states, In the mean time this will halt a few hundred thousand vaccines per day in Ireland and other European countries. Who are still at the older people vaccinations. That will sure mean more than 30 people will die of covid. Looks like odd way of thinking to me especially as the WHO have also backed the vaccine | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better "And far more for the Covax program and other countries will have better access to it now. The EU will continue to play it's politics at the expense of their citizens and others. | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better
And far more for the Covax program and other countries will have better access to it now. The EU will continue to play it's politics at the expense of their citizens and others." | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better
And far more for the Covax program and other countries will have better access to it now. The EU will continue to play it's politics at the expense of their citizens and others."I’m not sure it is ‘playing politics’. I think it is just that they are useless, a bureaucratic mess chef after chef looking to ruin the broth | |||
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"So that is 30 out of how many millions of doses given . Bit of scaremongering again i think Well Italy, Austria, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Latvia, Ireland and now Thailand according to The Telegraph have suspended it. Scaremongering?" Absolutely! | |||
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"Every time you get a prescription from the doctors you take it to the pharmacy and when you open it and read the leaflet it gives you a list of side effects. It's done in numbers ie 1 in 10 then 1 in 50 1 in 100 and so on. 30 cases in 17 million vaccinations work that out at 1 in .... At the end of the day it's a personal decision wether having read that leaflet you take the medicine. But if I was prescribed something that will cure me of whatever the medicine was prescribed for I'm going to take it. I went for my vaccination at dinner time I was given the Astra Zenica I took it without apprehension Absolutely, approximately 1 in 1000 people get DVTs during their lifetime and around 100,000 people die on blood clots every year in the US, the number of so called cases which ‘ may be’ associated with the vaccine is tiny. Unfortunately it would seem that a few mainly European governments are doing what they can to discredit the AZ vaccine as they have completely screwed up their vaccine programmes. If it means more for the UK all the better
And far more for the Covax program and other countries will have better access to it now. The EU will continue to play it's politics at the expense of their citizens and others."And there are many on these forums who would wish us to rejoin this barmy bunch..... | |||
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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " Put the vaccine in the beer and open up all the pubs on Thursday and I'll guarantee everyone over 16 in Ireland will be vaccinated by the weekend. | |||
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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " COBBLERS!!! QUOTE from my Royal Free Hospital Pharmacy earlier today in an email to me when i queried blood clots. With regards to clots, a total of 15million vaccine doses have been given in the UK. Of these, only 3 case reports with Astra Zeneca (AZ) and 7 with the Pfizer vaccine of patients complaining of increased bruising with the vaccine (this can be the case in patients who are anti-coagulated). | |||
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"We see ireland has suspended covid vachine due to reports of serious bloodclots sip let us see what other complications develope over comming months " Also didnt the bloke at Press cp ference today read side effects of Asprin... how many gonna stop taki those now | |||
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"All the things this country has done, it could have done as an EU member." Get over it. We have left whether you, me or Big Dave from the pub like it or not... | |||
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"I posted a humorous post to the extreme flag waving brexiteers boasting about the UK raceing ahead with vaccine rollout, implying the cautious approach by the EU was a reason that Britain had voted to leave the EU, anyway I laughing joked to the extreme brexiters, thanks for being our Guinea pigs," How does being proud of the rollout make someone a brexiteer? Let alone and “extreme brextieer” (whatever that means). And the public are not Guinea pigs when it’s using well established and proven scientific methodology. Stop politicising a drug rollout. Why do people keep doing it? It’s odd, let alone extremely negative. Imagine standing at a hospital and saying to everyone “haha guinea pigs” as they get their vaccine. Disgusting behaviour. | |||
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