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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. " I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high?" I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ? | |||
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" I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high?" Because it is sad to say but people die, always have and always will. This is a fact most people seem to forget. | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ?" I dont know Do we get a breakdown of the people who are dying from it? | |||
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" I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? Because it is sad to say but people die, always have and always will. This is a fact most people seem to forget." Yes but we have vaccinated a huge chunk of the most vulnerable. But the numbers are still relatively high. | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ? I dont know Do we get a breakdown of the people who are dying from it?" I don't think we do, it always says 'with' it, so although it goes on their death , and I think counted in the figures, some have died from other conditions. Deaths are always higher in the winter months, I would think. | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ? I dont know Do we get a breakdown of the people who are dying from it? I don't think we do, it always says 'with' it, so although it goes on their death , and I think counted in the figures, some have died from other conditions. Deaths are always higher in the winter months, I would think." death *certificate* | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ? I dont know Do we get a breakdown of the people who are dying from it? I don't think we do, it always says 'with' it, so although it goes on their death , and I think counted in the figures, some have died from other conditions. Deaths are always higher in the winter months, I would think." The deaths we are quoted daily are those where folks have died within 28 days of a positive covid test. The number of deaths where covid is simply mentioned on the certificate is actually around 145K at the moment so significantly higher. The ONS figures show the number of deaths is currently around 40% higher than would usually be expected at this time of year. That's the impact of CV19  | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over. "
this ... and we are still so early in the vaccination stages - you are not instantaneously and 100% protected as soon as you get one jab - we are a long way off 2nd jabs and the appropriate grace period for immunity to build in that vulnerable group
plus it takes people time to get sick enough to die - no point looking at todays death figure alongside todays vaccine figure and wondering why they don’t correlate - its going to take at least a month for today vaccine figures to filter through a meaningful impact on death numbers | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over.
this ... and we are still so early in the vaccination stages - you are not instantaneously and 100% protected as soon as you get one jab - we are a long way off 2nd jabs and the appropriate grace period for immunity to build in that vulnerable group
plus it takes people time to get sick enough to die - no point looking at todays death figure alongside todays vaccine figure and wondering why they don’t correlate - its going to take at least a month for today vaccine figures to filter through a meaningful impact on death numbers "Someone we know (English but living in France) actually went down with CV19 eleven days after they were given the phizer vaccine. She must have picked it up a few days before her injection and it took two weeks to develop. She's recovered now but it just goes to show | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over. " Learning? You make a virus sound like an intelligent being  | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over.
this ... and we are still so early in the vaccination stages - you are not instantaneously and 100% protected as soon as you get one jab - we are a long way off 2nd jabs and the appropriate grace period for immunity to build in that vulnerable group
plus it takes people time to get sick enough to die - no point looking at todays death figure alongside todays vaccine figure and wondering why they don’t correlate - its going to take at least a month for today vaccine figures to filter through a meaningful impact on death numbers
Someone we know (English but living in France) actually went down with CV19 eleven days after they were given the phizer vaccine. She must have picked it up a few days before her injection and it took two weeks to develop. She's recovered now but it just goes to show"It has been very widely communicated that it takes at least three weeks after the jab for the body to create anti-bodies. That means you have little to no extra protection for three weeks. | |||
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" I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? Because it is sad to say but people die, always have and always will. This is a fact most people seem to forget." | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over. Learning? You make a virus sound like an intelligent being "Hence the inverted commas! | |||
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" I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ?" The issue is how you interpret the numbers. They are people who died with covid not of covid. The vaccine stops people getting ill from covid but they still test positive. Previous a lot of the deaths were due to covid I would guess though now there are more with than from. The numbers will get to a level and then flatline. We will get to a point of no exces deaths but still covid deaths. Once’s this happens nearly all of those will be with. There will of course still be some of due to flu numbers bring so low. But we need to get to a point where we focus on excess deaths not covid deaths. | |||
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"Because it's not just the most vulnerable who this thing kills. There are lots of people out there with asthma or diabetes or who are simply overweight who are susceptible to it. Even folks without any additional factors have died from it. Some of the new variants are also "learning" to get around the protection offered by previous infection or vaccines. Sadly this is a long way from being over.
this ... and we are still so early in the vaccination stages - you are not instantaneously and 100% protected as soon as you get one jab - we are a long way off 2nd jabs and the appropriate grace period for immunity to build in that vulnerable group
plus it takes people time to get sick enough to die - no point looking at todays death figure alongside todays vaccine figure and wondering why they don’t correlate - its going to take at least a month for today vaccine figures to filter through a meaningful impact on death numbers
Someone we know (English but living in France) actually went down with CV19 eleven days after they were given the phizer vaccine. She must have picked it up a few days before her injection and it took two weeks to develop. She's recovered now but it just goes to show
It has been very widely communicated that it takes at least three weeks after the jab for the body to create anti-bodies. That means you have little to no extra protection for three weeks."I was told between 1-2 weeks....10 days was mentioned when i got my 1st jab recently....but again....you have to kerp your wits about you at all times and dont let your guard down when out and about | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ?" A lot of people can be in hospital for treatment for a considerable length of time, some of them sadly losing their struggle against the onslaught the virus has caused. Those people - and I have no numbers, with the mean time between infection and deaths being closer to a month, so a couple of months or more are outliers - would not have benefitted from the mass vaccine rollout, which requires 3 weeks to develop immunity. Those are my thoughts, notwithstanding that more elderly people have Comorbidities that can leave them much more vulnerable | |||
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"Whilst our daily numbers of infections and deaths and hospitalisations are still ridiculously high. They are heading in the right direction. Let's not let them head the other way again folks. Today's hospitalisations 757 are the lowest since 10 october last year. Good work people. It's hard work but keep it going. Rather worrying that deaths continue to be so high though. Given 20m of the most vulnerable have been vaccinated. I dont really get that..if we have vaccinated the most vulnerable..why are the figures still relatively high? I don't get it either. Supposedly 93% of deaths were in the vulnerable groups which have now been vaccinated. So why still so high ?" Because you have to remember that you only have a certain amount of protection with the 1st dose and only after 2 to 3 weeks. Most of the people that are dying in hospital now will have either not yet had the vaccination or not a had it long enough to have enough protection. | |||
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