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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

I mean it’s not exactly a secret that being obese is incredibly bad for you and makes it harder for your body to fight of infections...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately being overweight doesn't help any illness and a lot of overweight people also have undiagnosed illnesses but so do slim people and the older you get the more likely they are!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

d"

Its upto you who you want to blame

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

oh yes and restricting access to beaches, hills and gyms has really helped..

it prob is a factor but i think only if it effects your repository system

lots of other factors

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By *ilver_StarMan
over a year ago

Warwickshire


"is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

d"

I believe that many people don't make it to old-age due to significant weight and ischaemic heart disease (IHD), especially men.

Ischaemic heart disease + obesity makes you very vulnerable.

"UK leading causes of death for those aged 50 to 64 years

From 2001 to 2018, IHD has been the leading cause of death in males aged 50 to 64 years. Males in this age group had over three times the number of deaths from IHD than females throughout the years observed"

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/causesofdeath/articles/leadingcausesofdeathuk/2001to2018

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

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By *ilver_StarMan
over a year ago

Warwickshire


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines."

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes, there is a link between it and covid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers. "

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh yes and restricting access to beaches, hills and gyms has really helped..

it prob is a factor but i think only if it effects your repository system

lots of other factors

d"

There are lots of exercises you can do at home, you don't need gyms or machines.

As well as walking and cycling.

All good for mind, body and soul

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Sars-cov-2 replicates very very easily in fat cells, the more fat cells you have the potential higher vital load you have, which can cause complications of any existing illness

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"oh yes and restricting access to beaches, hills and gyms has really helped..

it prob is a factor but i think only if it effects your repository system

lots of other factors

d

There are lots of exercises you can do at home, you don't need gyms or machines.

As well as walking and cycling.

All good for mind, body and soul

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Exactly this ^^^

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not "

I would agree with what you wrote.

But throwing around heavy weights in a gym does wonders for my mental health.

I still train but not as hard as I would in a gym.

So my mental health is starting to suffer.

Seriously can't wait to get back in a gym.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not

I would agree with what you wrote.

But throwing around heavy weights in a gym does wonders for my mental health.

I still train but not as hard as I would in a gym.

So my mental health is starting to suffer.

Seriously can't wait to get back in a gym."

Same

I compensate somewhat by walking, running, lifting moderate weights at home, online classes etc

But none of them have anywhere near the positive mental or physical impact that training in a gym does for me

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers. "

I can't hike, run, cycle or walk without aids. Not everyone can use their legs in the way you can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm obviously fat - always have been, apart from when I had a borderline class A addiction (funny how everyone told me how healthy I looked then when the utter opposite was true)....

However so much of my weight gain has been down to a chronic health condition I have. So sometimes it is a bit chicken and egg....my weight is affected by my illness, my illness affected by my weight...I think the same is true for a lot of fat people and so we are more vulnerable, whether down to the cause or effect of the weight xx

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

d

Its upto you who you want to blame"

Can I blame someone else please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a scapegoat. Just fact. Obesity isn't good for your health. Whatever you think. *shrugs*

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

The reason why obesity is a huge issue for Covid is because actually, the mode of pathogenicity of the disease is cardiovascular.

The receptors that the virus uses to enter cells (ACE2) are, in normal circumstances, involved in the regulation of blood pressure. To put it simply, dysfunction and interference with your ACE2 receptors can (and does) lead to inappropriate blood pressure regulation.

This can lead to fluid leaving the bloodstream and building up in the tissues (hence much of the respiratory symptoms of very low O2 stats - fluid buildup can inhibit efficient gas exchange). It can lead to dysfunction of the kidneys, which rely on a certain pressure to filter out the waste products in the glomerulus (part of the kidney).

Very high or low blood pressure and the effects of trying to regulate blood pressure inappropriately are very serious and can result in all sorts of body systems failing.

Obesity is linked to high blood pressure and issues with organs such as the kidneys and cardiovascular system so it is unsurprising that countries with high levels of obesity have poorer stats on Covid deaths and hospitalisations.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London


"The reason why obesity is a huge issue for Covid is because actually, the mode of pathogenicity of the disease is cardiovascular.

The receptors that the virus uses to enter cells (ACE2) are, in normal circumstances, involved in the regulation of blood pressure. To put it simply, dysfunction and interference with your ACE2 receptors can (and does) lead to inappropriate blood pressure regulation.

This can lead to fluid leaving the bloodstream and building up in the tissues (hence much of the respiratory symptoms of very low O2 stats - fluid buildup can inhibit efficient gas exchange). It can lead to dysfunction of the kidneys, which rely on a certain pressure to filter out the waste products in the glomerulus (part of the kidney).

Very high or low blood pressure and the effects of trying to regulate blood pressure inappropriately are very serious and can result in all sorts of body systems failing.

Obesity is linked to high blood pressure and issues with organs such as the kidneys and cardiovascular system so it is unsurprising that countries with high levels of obesity have poorer stats on Covid deaths and hospitalisations."

Reading this has just given me motivation to lose weight.

Thank you

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Some reading on the ACE2 receptors and Covid, for anyone interested is below. Some of the references to treatment options might be now a little out of date with developments since May last year, but the science behind the normal role of ACE2 and the virus' interaction with it is unchanged.

Title: What is the ACE2 receptor, how is it connected to coronavirus and why might it be key to treating COVID-19? The experts explain

Website name: The Conversation

Authors: Krishna Sriram, Paul Insel, Rohit Loomba, University of California San Diego

Date: May 14, 2020

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

I can't hike, run, cycle or walk without aids. Not everyone can use their legs in the way you can."

no but you could still lift arm weights without a gym and i imagine getting about in the chair unless it is motorised is a workout in itself

they might have centred around examples that require the use of legs but the point that exercise without a gym is possible still stands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm obviously fat - always have been, apart from when I had a borderline class A addiction (funny how everyone told me how healthy I looked then when the utter opposite was true)....

However so much of my weight gain has been down to a chronic health condition I have. So sometimes it is a bit chicken and egg....my weight is affected by my illness, my illness affected by my weight...I think the same is true for a lot of fat people and so we are more vulnerable, whether down to the cause or effect of the weight xx"

I hear this.

For me, it's so complicated. I have an underactive thyroid, which makes losing weight difficult. I take multiple medications - mostly psychiatric meds - that have weight gain as an unfortunate side effect, however I come very ill without them. I have an eating disorder that I receive no support or treatment for. I have a physical health issue that leads to chronic pain that makes exercising hard, and I suffer from severe mental health issues that make getting out of bed a challenge most days.

I do my best to eat well and exercise as and when I can - mostly because I have diabetes - but it is a constant battle of trying to balance so many different things.

I envy people who find losing weight to be a simple process, since it really isn't for some of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms..."

It's like in Wales

You can drive anywhere to get a McDonald's drive thru

But can't drive any distance for exercise

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

I can't hike, run, cycle or walk without aids. Not everyone can use their legs in the way you can.

no but you could still lift arm weights without a gym and i imagine getting about in the chair unless it is motorised is a workout in itself

they might have centred around examples that require the use of legs but the point that exercise without a gym is possible still stands "

Lifting small hand weights is possible but does absolutely nothing for me. I usually lift on an incline bench in the gym but don't have this equipment (or space) for it at home. I have resistance bands too, but my chair moves when I try to use them anchored to a door etc, even with the brakes on.

Going out in the chair in winter to do anything resembling exercise is actually quite hard. Any wetness on the rims means you have little to no grip (no matter what you wear on your hands) and so bouncing up kerbs (because that's necessary due to lack of dropped kerbs), trying to push uphill etc is nigh on impossible.

Colleagues from wheelchair basketball who have upper limb impairments struggle to get from A to B in a manual chair unless it's on a totally smooth surface. Like an indoor court, but these have been closed.

It's not as easy as you'd like to think, I can assure you! I'm lucky that I do have the upper body strength to, in dry conditions, push uphill, on uneven pavements and up kerbs. My chair is wrecked from doing it and I don't qualify for an NHS chair so I have to be careful not to trash it completely.

I live in a hilly area so I can't go anywhere from my house without going uphill.

Also I had gynaecological surgery in August and was told not to push uphills for six months!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm obviously fat - always have been, apart from when I had a borderline class A addiction (funny how everyone told me how healthy I looked then when the utter opposite was true)....

However so much of my weight gain has been down to a chronic health condition I have. So sometimes it is a bit chicken and egg....my weight is affected by my illness, my illness affected by my weight...I think the same is true for a lot of fat people and so we are more vulnerable, whether down to the cause or effect of the weight xx

I hear this.

For me, it's so complicated. I have an underactive thyroid, which makes losing weight difficult. I take multiple medications - mostly psychiatric meds - that have weight gain as an unfortunate side effect, however I come very ill without them. I have an eating disorder that I receive no support or treatment for. I have a physical health issue that leads to chronic pain that makes exercising hard, and I suffer from severe mental health issues that make getting out of bed a challenge most days.

I do my best to eat well and exercise as and when I can - mostly because I have diabetes - but it is a constant battle of trying to balance so many different things.

I envy people who find losing weight to be a simple process, since it really isn't for some of us. "

I lost a huge chunk of weight a few years back

Nearly a third of my body weight

It is anything but easy, believe me

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms..."

And that's where the proper outrage should be... The non stop advertising everywhere we look and move to all age groups... Making a quadruple burger of 3000 calories a desirable thing...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

And that's where the proper outrage should be... The non stop advertising everywhere we look and move to all age groups... Making a quadruple burger of 3000 calories a desirable thing... "

It seems socially acceptable though to promote obesity over a healthy lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

And that's where the proper outrage should be... The non stop advertising everywhere we look and move to all age groups... Making a quadruple burger of 3000 calories a desirable thing... "

Not all fat people binge on McDonald's. Some of us prefer to binge on wine and crisps

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

It's like in Wales

You can drive anywhere to get a McDonald's drive thru

But can't drive any distance for exercise

"

Because you don’t need to drive to exercise

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

And that's where the proper outrage should be... The non stop advertising everywhere we look and move to all age groups... Making a quadruple burger of 3000 calories a desirable thing... "

But everyone sees the advertisements but not everyone eats it

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

And that's where the proper outrage should be... The non stop advertising everywhere we look and move to all age groups... Making a quadruple burger of 3000 calories a desirable thing...

Not all fat people binge on McDonald's. Some of us prefer to binge on wine and crisps "

No of course I appreciate that... I'm just saying it is so ridiculously easy to get bad calories into our bodies... And so much harder (and mostly a whole lot less desirable) to get the good stuff into us.... As the lady said.. We can drive miles to get a big mac but can't drive to exercise... Eat out to help out 2 will be coming soon.... We need a reset of advertising and culture and make it a shit load cooler to be fit and healthy and encourage that much more. And before I get jumped on that's not to say its easy or other should be targeted... But let's start being healthy. In mind and body.

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By *oojCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

Surely the pandemic will make folk aspire to a healthier lifestyle after the virus has been shown to like the less healthy lifestyle people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

It's like in Wales

You can drive anywhere to get a McDonald's drive thru

But can't drive any distance for exercise

Because you don’t need to drive to exercise "

You don't need to drive to a McDonalds drive thru to eat either

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"9/10 deaths linked to obesity but McDonald’s opened before the gyms...

It's like in Wales

You can drive anywhere to get a McDonald's drive thru

But can't drive any distance for exercise

Because you don’t need to drive to exercise

You don't need to drive to a McDonalds drive thru to eat either "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being obese means you qualify for a jab as clinically vulnerable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being obese means you qualify for a jab as clinically vulnerable."

I think you have to have a BMI of 40 or above to fall into this category

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Surely the pandemic will make folk aspire to a healthier lifestyle after the virus has been shown to like the less healthy lifestyle people."

I admire your optimism. But it's been going a year and we knew this a year ago. Best thing we could do is open all the gyms swims clubs and make it compulsory 7 days a week. Being the contrarian twats we are they'd stay empty.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being obese means you qualify for a jab as clinically vulnerable.

I think you have to have a BMI of 40 or above to fall into this category "

I got given a jab because of my weight.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Being obese means you qualify for a jab as clinically vulnerable.

I think you have to have a BMI of 40 or above to fall into this category

I got given a jab because of my weight. "

The official NHS guidance is a BMI of 40+ but GPs have some latitude if they think a patient qualifies as having a qualifying health condition.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

I can't hike, run, cycle or walk without aids. Not everyone can use their legs in the way you can.

no but you could still lift arm weights without a gym and i imagine getting about in the chair unless it is motorised is a workout in itself

they might have centred around examples that require the use of legs but the point that exercise without a gym is possible still stands

Lifting small hand weights is possible but does absolutely nothing for me. I usually lift on an incline bench in the gym but don't have this equipment (or space) for it at home. I have resistance bands too, but my chair moves when I try to use them anchored to a door etc, even with the brakes on.

Going out in the chair in winter to do anything resembling exercise is actually quite hard. Any wetness on the rims means you have little to no grip (no matter what you wear on your hands) and so bouncing up kerbs (because that's necessary due to lack of dropped kerbs), trying to push uphill etc is nigh on impossible.

Colleagues from wheelchair basketball who have upper limb impairments struggle to get from A to B in a manual chair unless it's on a totally smooth surface. Like an indoor court, but these have been closed.

It's not as easy as you'd like to think, I can assure you! I'm lucky that I do have the upper body strength to, in dry conditions, push uphill, on uneven pavements and up kerbs. My chair is wrecked from doing it and I don't qualify for an NHS chair so I have to be careful not to trash it completely.

I live in a hilly area so I can't go anywhere from my house without going uphill.

Also I had gynaecological surgery in August and was told not to push uphills for six months!"

im not saying its easy and not trying to underestimate how difficult it is so apologies if thats how its come across - many people will not get the same quality of workout without the gym but basic level exercise without them just now is possible which is why they have remained closed for public safety - its just one of the many trade offs we are all facing just now

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


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im not saying its easy and not trying to underestimate how difficult it is so apologies if thats how its come across - many people will not get the same quality of workout without the gym but basic level exercise without them just now is possible which is why they have remained closed for public safety - its just one of the many trade offs we are all facing just now "

It's not just that you can't get the same quality of workout though. Because pushing a self propelled wheelchair uphill requires the pelvic floor to be engaged, I haven't been able to do anymore than roll round Sainsbury's for the majority of the time from August to January. Then the abysmal weather, snow, ice etc makes any form of wheelchair movement either impossible or so challenging that it's not exercise, but more a form of torture. I went out in the snow to please my daughter. Within minutes of leaving the house, my clothes (including knickers) were wet because despite the wheel guards, bulky winter clothing protrudes above and splashes up from the wet wheels ends up with the capillary effect. By a mile from home, I was sat in freezing cold clothes, sopping wet gloves (also freezing) and struggled enough just to make the wheels turn to move even slowly. My then 3yo daughter left me far behind. We had to take a very much longer route home because I couldn't get back up the steep hill in the slippery conditions. I had to strip every item of clothing off when I got home and my wheelchair cushion (I have one) was soaked and took a full day to dry.

It's miserable to go anywhere in the cold and wet weather by wheelchair. It's not like going for a brisk walk with your wellies on at all. In the summer, I was pushing across country for 10 or 12km or more, but the routes are absolutely impassable by wheelchair due to the mud and wet grass and I've explained the issues with going out on "the road" in wet weather too.

I pushed up to my GP on Friday to get my Covid jab and the temperature was about 3°C. My fingers turned to ice pretty quickly but at least the weather was dry. When your hands are your brakes, you have to be able to feel them. I've spent so much money on different types of glove and not one works well in the wet to give grip AND enough palm cushioning to brake with and none have any particular heating up properties and the required design to act as brakes....

No, it's really not simple at all, and that's for someone with no upper limb impairment who is very strong...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

"

Fuck me...the only time I'll be in the top 15% for something....

Honestly I am trying to sort it and have lost a stone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

Fuck me...the only time I'll be in the top 15% for something....

Honestly I am trying to sort it and have lost a stone "

Well done

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

Fuck me...the only time I'll be in the top 15% for something....

Honestly I am trying to sort it and have lost a stone "

That's brilliant Well done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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im not saying its easy and not trying to underestimate how difficult it is so apologies if thats how its come across - many people will not get the same quality of workout without the gym but basic level exercise without them just now is possible which is why they have remained closed for public safety - its just one of the many trade offs we are all facing just now

It's not just that you can't get the same quality of workout though. Because pushing a self propelled wheelchair uphill requires the pelvic floor to be engaged, I haven't been able to do anymore than roll round Sainsbury's for the majority of the time from August to January. Then the abysmal weather, snow, ice etc makes any form of wheelchair movement either impossible or so challenging that it's not exercise, but more a form of torture. I went out in the snow to please my daughter. Within minutes of leaving the house, my clothes (including knickers) were wet because despite the wheel guards, bulky winter clothing protrudes above and splashes up from the wet wheels ends up with the capillary effect. By a mile from home, I was sat in freezing cold clothes, sopping wet gloves (also freezing) and struggled enough just to make the wheels turn to move even slowly. My then 3yo daughter left me far behind. We had to take a very much longer route home because I couldn't get back up the steep hill in the slippery conditions. I had to strip every item of clothing off when I got home and my wheelchair cushion (I have one) was soaked and took a full day to dry.

It's miserable to go anywhere in the cold and wet weather by wheelchair. It's not like going for a brisk walk with your wellies on at all. In the summer, I was pushing across country for 10 or 12km or more, but the routes are absolutely impassable by wheelchair due to the mud and wet grass and I've explained the issues with going out on "the road" in wet weather too.

I pushed up to my GP on Friday to get my Covid jab and the temperature was about 3°C. My fingers turned to ice pretty quickly but at least the weather was dry. When your hands are your brakes, you have to be able to feel them. I've spent so much money on different types of glove and not one works well in the wet to give grip AND enough palm cushioning to brake with and none have any particular heating up properties and the required design to act as brakes....

No, it's really not simple at all, and that's for someone with no upper limb impairment who is very strong...

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I strongly suggest contacting wheels for wellbeing see if they can offer you some advice and help, also organised outdoor exercise for disabled has been allowed during lockdown so I would contact your local velodrome and see what they have on offer because veledromes are naturally draining due to the slope the water isn't an issue and are gritted so no snow or ice hope this helps

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Thank you. Outdoor exercise has been permitted, technically yes. But when outdoor courts etc have been locked and bolted, that's not helpful unfortunately. My wheelchair basketball team asked about using local council outdoor courts (no, the staff have been furloughed) and also the outdoor facilities at the school we usually use the indoor hall of (no, the site is only open for the basic school hours). The National Cycling Centre (velodrome) has been closed throughout the lockdowns. Wheels for Wellbeing seems to be a London thing? I've just looked and sessions (in normal times) are weekdays, in the middle of the day, which is lovely for those who do not work. This is a huge issue with disability activities (an apparent assumption people do not work).

We have a charity called Wheels for All, I've used them before on an outdoor athletics track. The track is council owned and guess what?! It's been closed throughout lockdown!

Here is the Facebook update from the group:

"Sure everyone is feeling as frustrated as myself that we can’t operate. Two of us volunteers have our first vaccinations so when restrictions ease we may be able to interact more normally.

Recently have met two of our carers though how we recognised each other behind masks I haven’t a clue. Hope I haven’t ignored others .

I was devastated last week by my own ignorance regarding the reality that some of our users reside in care homes yet despite their risks of infection hadn’t necessarily been included in early vaccination measures. All I can say is that I hope everyone is well.

As and when we can run things will start slowly- transport for users involves difficulties, we will need to know who is coming and other niggles. We are keen to get involved again. X"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not "

Really makes it more difficult to do bicep curls though... and we all know that's the only exercise that really counts.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

d"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not

Really makes it more difficult to do bicep curls though... and we all know that's the only exercise that really counts. "

plenty things around a house to be used for bicep curls ... its just more difficult to do them while posing for your self in a full length mirror and grunting for the benefit of those around you

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over a year ago


"Being fat makes increases your risk with any illness across the board. It puts extra pressure on almost all of the organs. Where they are having to work harder than in someone in the correct weight range any extra pressure from illness will make it harder from them. As for the gyms being shut (let’s face it beaches and hills are still accessible for exercise) there are plenty of other ways to exercise that don’t require you to be inside or using machines.

100% - Gyms being closed does not stop anyone getting outside to walk, hike, run or cycle. Significantly increased weight increases blood pressure (putting strain on many organs) and the likelihood of diabetes and some cancers.

another vote for this from me - closing gyms doesn’t stop people exercising just like opening them doesn’t make people exercise

its either something you are motivated to do and will find a way or something you are not

Really makes it more difficult to do bicep curls though... and we all know that's the only exercise that really counts.

plenty things around a house to be used for bicep curls ... its just more difficult to do them while posing for your self in a full length mirror and grunting for the benefit of those around you "

It's not for myself! Everyone knows that the curls are for the girls (and boys )

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Being overweight or obese is often associated with other serious conditions, which may or may not be being treated or well managed. It also imposes stress upon our bodies that, once chronic, is a very significant health burden. This foundation is not the best to have, when a virus which may impose an overwhelming load on vital organs attacks us. This virus also causes cytokine storms, at immense levels. Overall, these are not a great combination of health impairments to acquire.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

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I'm always getting moaned at by my doctor to lose weight. Think my BMI fluctuates between 39 and has been as high as 51 in the past year. I've got it down to 45 now.. but I lose motivation very easily. I normally swim for fitness or do aqua aerobics.. I do walk but rarely manage more than 7k steps per day.. but I have been cycling on an exercise bike for 35mins every day since the first week of feb.

I dont however have any underlying health issues. I guess If I did it maybe easier to motivate. 4 years ago I had got my BMI down to 31 and was happy at that but still got moaned at.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

I'm always getting moaned at by my doctor to lose weight. Think my BMI fluctuates between 39 and has been as high as 51 in the past year. I've got it down to 45 now.. but I lose motivation very easily. I normally swim for fitness or do aqua aerobics.. I do walk but rarely manage more than 7k steps per day.. but I have been cycling on an exercise bike for 35mins every day since the first week of feb.

I dont however have any underlying health issues. I guess If I did it maybe easier to motivate. 4 years ago I had got my BMI down to 31 and was happy at that but still got moaned at."

You are still eligible for a covid jab. I got one for being a bmi of 42

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

I'm always getting moaned at by my doctor to lose weight. Think my BMI fluctuates between 39 and has been as high as 51 in the past year. I've got it down to 45 now.. but I lose motivation very easily. I normally swim for fitness or do aqua aerobics.. I do walk but rarely manage more than 7k steps per day.. but I have been cycling on an exercise bike for 35mins every day since the first week of feb.

I dont however have any underlying health issues. I guess If I did it maybe easier to motivate. 4 years ago I had got my BMI down to 31 and was happy at that but still got moaned at."

The problem with underlying health issues is many people don't realise they had them until it kills them or contributes to their death and is picked up in a post mortem. Not saying this is the case for you of course, but not underlying health problems present themselves until it's too late

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

I'm always getting moaned at by my doctor to lose weight. Think my BMI fluctuates between 39 and has been as high as 51 in the past year. I've got it down to 45 now.. but I lose motivation very easily. I normally swim for fitness or do aqua aerobics.. I do walk but rarely manage more than 7k steps per day.. but I have been cycling on an exercise bike for 35mins every day since the first week of feb.

I dont however have any underlying health issues. I guess If I did it maybe easier to motivate. 4 years ago I had got my BMI down to 31 and was happy at that but still got moaned at."

And even after losing 5 stone my doctor still suggested (via telephone) to me I should lose weight as I am still in the slightly overweight category according to my bmi

They're just doing their job, they're not moaning at us

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

Not a big fan of bmi

As when i worked for the nhs i was told my ideal weight would be 11 stone. I m 6" tail and have played rugby since the age of 9 . I was 11 stone at the age of 15 im now just over 17 stone 51 yrs old and still play rugby. Most professional rugby players have a bmi in excess of 25 ?

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By *iveralandssklpMan
over a year ago

Turkey


"is that an easy scapegoat for why Covid has caused so much damage in the west? A lot of older people do tend to lose weight as they get old and frail

d"

I must be the exception to the rule lol

On lock down I have put on 5kg through "comfort eating"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not a big fan of bmi

As when i worked for the nhs i was told my ideal weight would be 11 stone. I m 6" tail and have played rugby since the age of 9 . I was 11 stone at the age of 15 im now just over 17 stone 51 yrs old and still play rugby. Most professional rugby players have a bmi in excess of 25 ?"

The thing about BMI is that it's a guideline not an absolute and there are exceptions where it doesn't work and one of those are fit athletes. Professional rugby players fall into this category and therefore, BMI would never be used for them. Unfortunately at 51, 6ft and 17st plus not a professional they (& you) know you're on the "too" heavy side! That's just common sense

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Surely the pandemic will make folk aspire to a healthier lifestyle after the virus has been shown to like the less healthy lifestyle people."

Not so far...12 months in..

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"And just popped up on BBC..

"Why are Brits the fattest in Western Europe?

by Sue Quinn

World Obesity Day today is a stark reminder of the UK’s status as one of the heaviest nations. It’s estimated 64 percent of British adults are now overweight, having a body mass index (BMI) of 25 or more. This includes around 28 percent who are obese (with a BMI of 30 or more), double the percentage figure in 1990, when obesity affected just 14 percent of British adults. More than 10 percent of obese people in the UK have a BMI of 35 or more."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/articles/britain_diet

I'm always getting moaned at by my doctor to lose weight. Think my BMI fluctuates between 39 and has been as high as 51 in the past year. I've got it down to 45 now.. but I lose motivation very easily. I normally swim for fitness or do aqua aerobics.. I do walk but rarely manage more than 7k steps per day.. but I have been cycling on an exercise bike for 35mins every day since the first week of feb.

I dont however have any underlying health issues. I guess If I did it maybe easier to motivate. 4 years ago I had got my BMI down to 31 and was happy at that but still got moaned at.

The problem with underlying health issues is many people don't realise they had them until it kills them or contributes to their death and is picked up in a post mortem. Not saying this is the case for you of course, but not underlying health problems present themselves until it's too late "

Well due to a health condition I will have regardless of size, I get regular checks for stuff. Heart, lungs and blood pressure are all good. In fact apparently I'm pretty fit for a fatty.

I have already had my covid jab due to working at the vaccine hub not due to weight. Getting my 2nd dose this month

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